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4.2.2 The bad

Well all things were fine on 4.2.1 and then this update comes,
This is what i noticed so far,
1.Phone is EXTREMELY laggy when downloading from play store
2.Browser quick controls are bugged
3.Lots of launcher crashes
4.Alarm icon in the notification disappears while it's still active
5.Random lag spikes while navigating in de drawer or homescreen,
As far as i go, this is the laggiest jelly bean version, maybe google just got lazy, or they're working on another version of Android (fingers crossed)
EDIT: I'm not talking about custom roms and such, and i'm not willing to flash, i like stock
Sent from my GNexus

First:
Do a full wipe!
Flash STOCK ANDROID JB 4.2.2 (I mean stock, and not CWM flashable stock ROMs with root..)
Use stock Android launcher (Just stock, not modded or anything else)
And then Stop complaining!

I'm on cm10.1 4.2.2 and is probably the smoothest ROM I have ever been on.
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Even I'm using panaroid but i din feel any laggish or bug. May b its a problem which have been created without new boot loader from Google ?
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ray3andrei said:
Well all things were fine on 4.2.1 and then this update comes,
This is what i noticed so far,
1.Phone is EXTREMELY laggy when downloading from play store
2.Browser quick controls are bugged
3.Lots of launcher crashes
4.Alarm icon in the notification disappears while it's still active
5.Random lag spikes while navigating in de drawer or homescreen,
As far as i go, this is the laggiest jelly bean version, maybe google just got lazy, or they're working on another version of Android (fingers crossed)
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1. Use a custom kernel and tweak the read ahead buffer size. With sio io scheduler and 256k buffer size i made the lag minimal for me.
3+5 : use nova launcher and it will be fine
4: it works fine here, make sure you do clean installs.
As a last advice I must say to flash the factory image via fastboot. It is absolutely fine with no issues. I installed it on 2 gnex' already and no problems with lag.
Sent from my Nexus Prime

manumanfred said:
First:
Do a full wipe!
Flash STOCK ANDROID JB 4.2.2 (I mean stock, and not CWM flashable stock ROMs with root..)
Use stock Android launcher (Just stock, not modded or anything else)
And then Stop complaining!
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Stock android is far away from perfect now. JDQ39 is nowhere near rock stable JZO54K. My friend. Scrolling lag is not the matter of clean installation. I've tested five 4.2.2 based roms, including stock all of them lags as hell after a while - it can be one or two days or couple of hours. Actually it's been the most evident of stock and it concerns scrolling between homescreens, lockscreens, recents. A lot of people have experienced it and it's been already reported to google issue tracker. I've already tested stock, cm10.1 m2, PA 3.1 0309, XenonHD 6.0 - all of them lags after a while. At the moment I am testing Purity and I haven's seen lag for two days.
Te easiest way to reproduce the bug. Please do not reboot your devices, and do not change wallpapers for about two days.

Same here, on CM10.1 Play Store is now smooth but was bad on XenonHD.
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I am 100% stock... My phone flies.. No lags nor bugs or redraws...
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sam razzy said:
Even I'm using panaroid but i din feel any laggish or bug. May b its a problem which have been created without new boot loader from Google ?
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No. Your problem is more than likely the former.
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forever_lol said:
Stock android is far away from perfect now. JDQ39 is nowhere near rock stable JZO54K. My friend. Scrolling lag is not the matter of clean installation. I've tested five 4.2.2 based roms, including stock all of them lags as hell after a while - it can be one or two days or couple of hours. Actually it's been the most evident of stock and it concerns scrolling between homescreens, lockscreens, recents. A lot of people have experienced it and it's been already reported to google issue tracker. I've already tested stock, cm10.1 m2, PA 3.1 0309, XenonHD 6.0 - all of them lags after a while. At the moment I am testing Purity and I haven's seen lag for two days.
Te easiest way to reproduce the bug. Please do not reboot your devices, and do not change wallpapers for about two days.
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Well I don't understand where do you see the lags. Because I don't have any lags on my nexus.
The speed also depends what kernel you are using and how much free Memory you have on your nexus..
I'm using my own ROM which is based of stock Android ROM and I have actually never experienced any lags.
Yesterday I got few apps after using apple's BT mouse and when I set up multi users.. But all the lags went away when I rebooted.

thegtfusion said:
As a last advice I must say to flash the factory image via fastboot. It is absolutely fine with no issues. I installed it on 2 gnex' already and no problems with lag.
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How do I do this?

Not sure if this has been discussed or not I searched and found many bugs but none that meet this specific issue.. I noticed that since I updated to the 4.2.2 leak on my Toro Nexus there have been a few issues:
Audio from the pogo pin dock stopped working.
Car mode goes off and on randomly as well as the charging bolt when the phone should be charging.
Phone goes into daydream mode even when not being charged..
Turning on bluetooth randomly reboots the phone on occasion and other random bugs.
I think I'm going to flash back to the previous OTA. I'm stock unlocked, unrooted, just the way I like my Nexus (for now). In no way is this a complaint, more my observations and a last shot in the dark to see if anyone has overcome these issues in the latest leaked "OTA."
On a side note, other than the dock and power issues, everything has been smooth. No lag etc...

fireknuckles said:
... I think I'm going to flash back to the previous OTA....
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Ok so I realize I don't know how to do this without resetting all data. From what I've read, the only way back includes wiping all data. Am I wrong? Is there a way for me to go back without wiping? I'm not super versed in all things Android but I think I recall flashing back to a previous OTA in the past to get another OTA to work without wiping. I can't find that thread anywhere so I'm probably mistaken. Any help?
Edit: I re-read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895 and determined that it can be done without wiping for folks that aren't noobs. I consider myself a noob at this point so I'm stuck with this 4.2.2 update until I find an easier way.

fireknuckles said:
Ok so I realize I don't know how to do this without resetting all data. From what I've read, the only way back includes wiping all data. Am I wrong? Is there a way for me to go back without wiping? I'm not super versed in all things Android but I think I recall flashing back to a previous OTA in the past to get another OTA to work without wiping. I can't find that thread anywhere so I'm probably mistaken. Any help?
Edit: I re-read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895 and determined that it can be done without wiping for folks that aren't noobs. I consider myself a noob at this point so I'm stuck with this 4.2.2 update until I find an easier way.
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It's the same as flashing a rom! Use Titanium backup to backup the apps, and custom recovery to wipe data/factory reset, cache and dalvik cache. Format /system, /data, /cache , and downgrade with the toolkit w/o format when it ask. So for less than an hour you will downgrade, and keep music, videos and photos. So the only thing you lose is programs, but you can restore them whit titanium, and that is!

manumanfred said:
Well I don't understand where do you see the lags. Because I don't have any lags on my nexus.
The speed also depends what kernel you are using and how much free Memory you have on your nexus..
I'm using my own ROM which is based of stock Android ROM and I have actually never experienced any lags.
Yesterday I got few apps after using apple's BT mouse and when I set up multi users.. But all the lags went away when I rebooted.
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Lags what I am talking about is low fps scrolling that appears after some time of normal usage. I've never experienced it on 4.1.2 or 4.2.1. It has nothing to do with the kernel. (BTW aren't we talkin about the stock one?) Problem is still present on custom kernels and even OCed CPU. It looks rather like some sort of memory leak. Reboot or changing wallpaper is a workaround solution for this issue. So yeah if you reboot your device quite often you most probably won't see this bug.
If you want to read more about this issue visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2178962
Except this bug I really like the 4.2.2 rom, these new features. I consider it as an improvement from 4.2.1.

I agree, 4.1.2 was polished more. 4.2.2 is better then the initial 4.2 release, but still has a way to go. We'll see what IO brings soon.

wisefreakz said:
I am 100% stock... My phone flies.. No lags nor bugs or redraws...
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+1
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manumanfred said:
First:
Do a full wipe!
Flash STOCK ANDROID JB 4.2.2 (I mean stock, and not CWM flashable stock ROMs with root..)
Use stock Android launcher (Just stock, not modded or anything else)
And then Stop complaining!
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Yeah i did that 2 weeks ago, and it just got laggy again
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ray3andrei said:
Yeah i did that 2 weeks ago, and it just got laggy again
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Ok.. Hmmm.....
Are you using custom kernel?
And which apps are running in background? E.g. Currents, Google+. FB...
And if you use custom kernel then make sure you use CPU governor that doesn't make Android slower or laggier..
I have actually never had any lags on my Nexus, I use 100% stock kernel, sometimes CM's kernel. I have free memory 2,10 GB of 13 GB (16GB GNex)..
Also I recommend to use some cleaner apps to delete unnecessary files..
For cleaning a bit my Nexus I use "Mobile Care" on Windows it is "ASC"
Which deletes e.g. Cache and junk files..

manumanfred said:
Ok.. Hmmm.....
Are you using custom kernel?
And which apps are running in background? E.g. Currents, Google+. FB...
And if you use custom kernel then make sure you use CPU governor that doesn't make Android slower or laggier..
I have actually never had any lags on my Nexus, I use 100% stock kernel, sometimes CM's kernel. I have free memory 2,10 GB of 13 GB (16GB GNex)..
Also I recommend to use some cleaner apps to delete unnecessary files..
For cleaning a bit my Nexus I use "Mobile Care" on Windows it is "ASC"
Which deletes e.g. Cache and junk files..
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Like i said, i'm 100% stock, and i see a lot of people having these issues as well..
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[Q] Decrease in performance, always in android?

Is it just me, or every time u clean flash a rom it runs super smooth. Give it day or two then it starts to lag a bit ?
if just we could maintain that fresh smoothness
what are the causes ?

what kind of apps do you RUN i get a full day running SLIM ROM and no lag or hiccups what are you doing wrong ??

krazierokz said:
what kind of apps do you RUN i get a full day running SLIM ROM and no lag or hiccups what are you doing wrong ??
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I have run almost every single rom for this phone man. i have like 40 app (not much i guess)
cm always proves to best i guess ... but still ... not satisfying

krazierokz said:
what kind of apps do you RUN i get a full day running SLIM ROM and no lag or hiccups what are you doing wrong ??
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im running slimrom aswell and i get constant crashes/restarts and battery life is just horrible, mainly because i run it in performance mode mostly to minimize crashes and freeze ups... ???? what am i doing wrong i like slim bean ive tried many other roms to no avail

I'm sorry your having those problems I was running slim for almost full month and never had not one issue you might have a bad flash for starters you can go into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik and fix permissions then reboot see what happens also download gsam battery to see what's eating up your battery also do you have any tweaks or mods installed v6 anything from an app or anything what kernel are u using give some details please
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on the bright side, they have a thread for the rom -_-

[Q]: Photosphere?

Hey guys I got lots of question (mix of dev and general stuff, forgive me if I posted in the wrong section).
I'm new to flashing and rooting, I just installed cyanogen mod 10.1 (after trying out CM 10.0 and 10.1.2)
> I noticed that 10.1.2 and 10.1 doesn't have the photosphere in the camera. Did I flash it wrong?
> My data connection turns on by itself, how can I disable it?
> Pinch to zoom out for homescreen is not working or CM doesn't have it?
> Any link for a stock samsung t989 camera app, keyboard app?
> FB can't sync contacts too (been looking for solutions)
Hope you can help me guys, I neve rthough that rooting and flashing custom rooms are fun and hoping to get extensive about it. Can't post in the dev section yet so here goes. No flames please.

eremes_nyc said:
Hey guys I got lots of question (mix of dev and general stuff, forgive me if I posted in the wrong section).
I'm new to flashing and rooting, I just installed cyanogen mod 10.1 (after trying out CM 10.0 and 10.1.2)
> I noticed that 10.1.2 and 10.1 doesn't have the photosphere in the camera. Did I flash it wrong?
> My data connection turns on by itself, how can I disable it?
> Pinch to zoom out for homescreen is not working or CM doesn't have it?
> Any link for a stock samsung t989 camera app, keyboard app?
> FB can't sync contacts too (been looking for solutions)
Hope you can help me guys, I neve rthough that rooting and flashing custom rooms are fun and hoping to get extensive about it. Can't post in the dev section yet so here goes. No flames please.
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First u need to know that only certain roms will have the working photosphere camera as our device isn't really supported yet, second cm 10.1 (unless it on official) won't be flawless and will usually have some bugs, try something a little more stable, carbon, PAC man, or paranoid android are all good choices for a newbie, also make sure ur using the latest twrp recovery, and ur doing a full wipe on anything that's not a pure update, data turning on and pinch to expand are all issues with some cm builds so if ur looking for perfection go flash the official cm, if u want photosphere, I think carbon has a working version in that rom...
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soupysoup said:
First u need to know that only certain roms will have the working photosphere camera as our device isn't really supported yet, second cm 10.1 (unless it on official) won't be flawless and will usually have some bugs, try something a little more stable, carbon, PAC man, or paranoid android are all good choices for a newbie, also make sure ur using the latest twrp recovery, and ur doing a full wipe on anything that's not a pure update, data turning on and pinch to expand are all issues with some cm builds so if ur looking for perfection go flash the official cm, if u want photosphere, I think carbon has a working version in that rom...
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I have the CM10.1.2 stable build, read some stuff about the photosphere and you're right i got the HDR function so i'm good with that, I got the latest TWRP too, and SU, the data turning on by itself was a mistake i just misunderstood the status bar widget (x, h thingy on signal button is like on and off). The only thing I find is my battery kinda drains fast? faster than I remember when I still had the original ROM, and the charging is slow. I remember my phone charges in like 2 hours this one says fully charge in 4 hours.
Imma try the carbon and paranoid though. Thanks a lot.

eremes_nyc said:
I have the CM10.1.2 stable build, read some stuff about the photosphere and you're right i got the HDR function so i'm good with that, I got the latest TWRP too, and SU, the data turning on by itself was a mistake i just misunderstood the status bar widget (x, h thingy on signal button is like on and off). The only thing I find is my battery kinda drains fast? faster than I remember when I still had the original ROM, and the charging is slow. I remember my phone charges in like 2 hours this one says fully charge in 4 hours.
Imma try the carbon and paranoid though. Thanks a lot.
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Remember too, u will never see good battery results in the first weekish, things are still settling in and winding down, I tell ppl to give it between 3 and 5 full battery cycles before recording any battery data, I'm on embryo right now and when I first flashed I got like 7hrs total, after a week I'm getting 17hrs plus, sometimes 4hrs or more screen on time, jellybam v9.2 has a great working photosphere, I flashed that today and its working good, yes that status bar widget is tricky lol, good luck with finding what u want, if u need it I have my db link with just about every rom created for the herc for easy access lol
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Weird notification drawer lag on any 4.4 based ROM

I have this really weird lag when I'm on ANY 4.4 based ROM no matter what kernel or gapps package I use. So I install the ROM and its all great but I start travelling and after sometime the notification drawer is all laggy and stuttering like never before. I thought it could be a GPS issue and tried disabling wifi, gps and mobile data but no luck, I also tried clearing app cache, doing a clean wipe and reinstalling ROM, trying almost every 4.4 based ROM out there. All I did was do a Clean install (factory reset, wipe dalvik, cache, system) from TWRP 2.6.3.2, configure the accounts, install superSU from playstore and update binaries, install TiBackup and restore user apps with data. It was still smooth until I leave work/home/travel somewhere. Anyone else facing this issue? Other than this weird lag, the UI is buttery smooth (no lags on homescreen, app drawer, opening and closing apps, etc) and even the RAM usage is quite low (<300MB). I cant seem to figure out what could be causing this. Please help me.
PS: the notification drawer lags ONLY when there are no notifications or when there is a permanent notification. When I get a dismissable notification it doesnt resemble any lag at all!
Thanks.

Is it only with 4.4 ROM's?

isajoo said:
Is it only with 4.4 ROM's?
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Yes.

the phone is pooping itself because Google messed it up

droidnxs said:
It was still smooth until I leave work/home/travel somewhere.
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Me too (latest Cm11 nightly + Mpokang 1080p + Nephilim's settings)!!
:crying:

Shambola said:
Me too (latest Cm11 nightly + Mpokang 1080p + Nephilim's settings)!!
:crying:
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Know that feel bro. If you run into any solution please post here or PM me. If this gets fixed it'll be the best thing to ever happen for our GNex. :fingers-crossed:

i'm on the 12-16 Nightly on CM 11 and i dont have any problems or lag ill keep you updated as i start to add apps and tweaks

GalaxySubie said:
i'm on the 12-16 Nightly on CM 11 and i dont have any problems or lag ill keep you updated as i start to add apps and tweaks
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I'm also on a recent nightly, and although I don't *feel* any disturbing stutter in notification drawer, it isn't quite as smooth as what's on my Nex4. Now, as the OP has hinted, I tried getting a dismissable notification in the drawer and boom, the drawer is suddenly as smooth as hell - but only for seconds. Wondering why...
Sent from Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G @ CM11

I have loaded app and stuff and i still have not seen any sort of lag.
When you are flashing are you wiping the device correctly it may still have files that will slow it down.
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GalaxySubie said:
I have loaded app and stuff and i still have not seen any sort of lag.
When you are flashing are you wiping the device correctly it may still have files that will slow it down.
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I do a clean flash as I stated previously. Factory Reset, Wipe dalvik cache, system, cache, Flash ROM, Gapps (dhacker29's latest), and reboot. Since I use TiBackup to restore, I also download SuperSU from playstore just to update binaries and make TiB work, I uninstall superSU after that and use the built-in superuser app.

I got that problem too!firstly i thought i was a bluetooth issue as i turn on the bluetooth and the notification drawer become laggy.but after a while i found it laggy continually even if i turn off the bluetooth.it's really a annoying thing

geekbrain said:
I got that problem too!firstly i thought i was a bluetooth issue as i turn on the bluetooth and the notification drawer become laggy.but after a while i found it laggy continually even if i turn off the bluetooth.it's really a annoying thing
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I know right? Once I disabled Wifi optimization as it was on, and it got smooth again, but that wasn't the end. I went to work and pulled out my phone, and boom, its all laggy and stuttering again. A few hours back I gave KitKat another shot but this time it was laggy even after the clean install without any apps restored. This is the weirdest thing to ever happen to my GNex. Now I'm back on AOKP 4.3.1 M1 with Tiny Kernel 5.4 with the smoothest android experience ever. Let's wait for the developers to take a look into this issue. :fingers-crossed:

Okay I think I found a solution. I tried 5 use-cases:
Flash method: Clean - Factory reset, wipe dalvik cache & cache, wipe ROM, flash ROM, gapps
1. CM11 ROM with built-in kernel
2. CM11 ROM with Tiny 5.4 kernel
3. CM11 ROM with built-in kernel
4. CM10.2.0 (stable) ROM with built-in kernel
5. CM10.2.0 (stable) ROM with Tiny 5.4 kernel
I noted that when I did not flash a 3rd party kernel the issue seemed to persist even at first start-up. But when I flashed a 3rd party kernel (be it any compatible kernel) there was absolutely no lag at all. But then the question of why I tested it on CM10.2 ROM is because I found the same notification drawer lag on CM10.2 (official) ROM. Maybe this started after the ram-disk was changed? (I'll leave that for the developers to decide).
Note: I'm currently on Gummy 21-12-13 build with Tiny 5.4 kernel, ART enabled. When I started off to work today I wanted to switch to 3G and when I did so the lag was back, but after it found a signal tower it disappeared. I have found no lag so far.
Something off-topic : But commonly throughout these tests, I found that these ROM's exhibited terrible lag when using live wallpaper.
If someone (facing the same issue as stated in the OP) can confirm that the above solution works, it will help alleviate the problem.
Edit: Also found in tricksterMOD that the deep-sleep mode was in the 'unused states' category.

Bump
Okay I guess the problem hasn't been quite solved yet, bumping so people can have a look at this.
Update:
In the recent builds notification drawer lags only when I'm not on Wifi no matter what KK ROM+Kernel combo I try.

droidnxs said:
Okay I guess the problem hasn't been quite solved yet, bumping so people can have a look at this.
Update:
In the recent builds notification drawer lags only when I'm not on Wifi no matter what KK ROM+Kernel combo I try.
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I'm on CM11 with Fancy kernel. I also see the lag when not on wifi. It really has not bothered me. The KK ROMs are still fairly new, so I would just give it some time.
Break me off a piece of that Kit-Kat ROM!

TheMan0790 said:
I'm on CM11 with Fancy kernel. I also see the lag when not on wifi. It really has not bothered me. The KK ROMs are still fairly new, so I would just give it some time.
Break me off a piece of that Kit-Kat ROM!
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I just wanted to confirm if it was really a bug or something that was specific to my phone. That confirmed the former, thanks!

Just wanted to add my thoughts on this. Are you guys using the Google Experience launcher with the "Ok Google" Hotword Detection? If so, turn off the hotword detection in settings. After doing that, I get no lag whatsoever in my notification drawer. I didnt use that feature that much anyway.

Still no dice on this issue? Not intentionally bumping, but I think this issue might have a deeper cause that requires more attention from devs.
I've read through the "suggestions" above and I can say that nothing works. What I have is a VERY clean CM11 + Franco r395 - no Gapps, no Google Experience Launcher, no Google Now (Google Search is force stopped and its shortcut removed), very few installed apps, no background apps except for input method, lots of free RAM (~520MB), yet this still happens. Only thing that removes the lag temporarily is an incoming notification, which only makes it smooth for seconds.
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Okay, tried many JB ROMs and they all don't have the lag. Try one of the KK ROMs and they come back immediately. Something with KK source?
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One more update: flashed latest CyanogenMod nightly (CM11 20140325) and I surprisingly discovered that the notif lag is gone. Turns out I'm wrong, as the lag is gone only in lockscreen and Trebuchet. However, on second thought, does this phenomenon mean that CM/Trebuchet recently implemented something that potentially removes the lag? What patch is it exactly, and why isn't it applied on other apps?
I still think that this "simple and bearable" problem has a darker side that requires more attention.
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11

Kitkat vs jellybean

Anyone else think the supposed improvements of KK are more snake oil than anything??
The difference between ics and JB is astounding.
But I've yet to see the same with KK. There's a new theme, which frankly sucks (subjective) .
I haven't seen the supposed improvements in ram.
Or the improved battery life with audio playback.
I'm well aware that many improvements are under the hood, and sure they might be significant, but to ME, the end user, I simply don't see them.
I think I noticed a bigger difference with 4.2.
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I do agree to some extent but in reality we are always limited by the hardware we have - that will not change. Also, due to the fact we're stuck on a 3.1 kernel, perhaps we are not seeing all the benefits we could.
To me, the jump to Ice Cream Sandwich where we finally got 2d graphics acceleration was the last major, major jump. Everything since (as a .x update) has been a minor evolution. Let's see what Android 5.x brings!

drivenby said:
Anyone else think the supposed improvements of KK are more snake oil than anything??
The difference between ics and JB is astounding.
But I've yet to see the same with KK. There's a new theme, which frankly sucks (subjective) .
I haven't seen the supposed improvements in ram.
Or the improved battery life with audio playback.
I'm well aware that many improvements are under the hood, and sure they might be significant, but to ME, the end user, I simply don't see them.
I think I noticed a bigger difference with 4.2.
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its much less about JB vs KK, but more about Dalvik vs ART.
when you run cm 11 on ART it is much smoother and apps run much faster.

treebill said:
its much less about JB vs KK, but more about Dalvik vs ART.
when you run cm 11 on ART it is much smoother and apps run much faster.
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Yeah but ART is in the initial stages.. i enabled it and it worked fine for like one hour or so and then things started getting f****d up... finally had to disable it. and when the phone was back to dalvik, touch froze... ended up formatting it to get it back working.. otherwise the screen worked at every reboot until i turned the screen off

Khizar Amin said:
Yeah but ART is in the initial stages.. i enabled it and it worked fine for like one hour or so and then things started getting f****d up... finally had to disable it. and when the phone was back to dalvik, touch froze... ended up formatting it to get it back working.. otherwise the screen worked at every reboot until i turned the screen off
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I am running ART on CM 11, with no problems at all.
make sure you get art compatable gapps, i get mine from Here, i use the micro gapps but any will do.

treebill said:
I am running ART on CM 11, with no problems at all.
make sure you get art compatable gapps, i get mine from Here, i use the micro gapps but any will do.
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I am using the stock google package from the same thread... If my gapps were incorrect, my phone would not have booted up in the first place.

Khizar Amin said:
I am using the stock google package from the same thread... If my gapps were incorrect, my phone would not have booted up in the first place.
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he meant for ART you have the wrong...there are packages just for dalvik and also some which are supporting both runtimes, dalvik AND ART ...i personally use them from paranoidandroid...the PA -gapps are great and it has the real stock google experience launcher

Here is my experience with pure Kitkat as a stock or AOSP ROMs on Nexus 7 2013 . As stock ROMs comes with a very different launcher than the one that comes with AOSP which is nearly the same as the experience launcher on Nexus5
The stock nexus 7 3013 kitkat launcher comes with no transparency at drawer . Nav bar or status bar . While the experience launcher is nearly transparent at every part of
But when it comes to my choice I would go with the old looking stock one . The new way that experience launcher looks is so damn ugly . Really . Even the new icons design is awful . . Im so gald they kept the jelly bean look at Kitkat for nexus 7 2013 . Everutime I go for AOSP ROM I go back right into any if the stock ROMS
ITS just my own opinion .
Also They managed great to get the new wallpapers to look bad
Something else about experience launcher . I don't like the idea of the Rlauncher or rom to control the way I number and arrange my homescreens . And placing Google now on the far right is an awful decision . Using the ring to pick it is much more convenient and faster
Just to say I really love they kept the old launcher for KITKAT ON MY nexus 7 1013
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I really miss a dev team that would push it forward hard. You know something like the pa team but with amazing design choices and functionality. I get so bored using the same usage pattern of the android system for so long. I want something new a new direction of making usage easier and not just voice control which is on all the time. There is nothing new since 4.0. They could at least fix multitasking...
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One-X-master said:
he meant for ART you have the wrong...there are packages just for dalvik and also some which are supporting both runtimes, dalvik AND ART ...i personally use them from paranoidandroid...the PA -gapps are great and it has the real stock google experience launcher
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You got it wrong. i meant the same. the earlier gapps for CM11 had 2 versions one with art support and one without and if you were using the gapps without art support and enabled art, the phone wont boot up.
Edit: and i am also using the PA gapps.

battery life seems to be much better than any aosp rom before kk...this is an ARTeffect

I would say the new sources play a part to
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