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[Q] Galaxy W internal and external sd card question

Hello,
I have a galaxy SL, and my brother is going to get a galaxy W.
In SL there is a non removable internal sd card(small), and I can add external sd card.
The main problem with this configuration is that with normal phone without rooting, I can only move the applications to internal sd card(small) using different apps or from settings screen, but I can not move the applications to the external sd card.
Does galaxy w has the same problematic configuration?
Best Regards,
Abdalla

Hi there..
In my experience, the opposite is the case.
Apps can be moved, using Android native manual Apps2SD or the Auto GUI App2SD, free from Market.
Apps can only be moved to External SD card......Internal USB/Storage is for Data, Music, Pics, etc.
Phone Memory for Apps is quite big, 1G, so it will take a while to fill this with Apps.
However, some ROMs have utilized a memory mount point swap, which can be useful if you want to use Internal USB/SD for apps!!!
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nihongasukidesu said:
Hello,
I have a galaxy SL, and my brother is going to get a galaxy W.
In SL there is a non removable internal sd card(small), and I can add external sd card.
The main problem with this configuration is that with normal phone without rooting, I can only move the applications to internal sd card(small) using different apps or from settings screen, but I can not move the applications to the external sd card.
Does galaxy w has the same problematic configuration?
Best Regards,
Abdalla
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I use link2sd but first you have to make partition using minitool partition..
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stpdkid said:
I use link2sd but first you have to make partition using minitool partition..
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That's a good app OK....you can use FAT32 partition AFAIK
but I remember it was used before Froyo gave the ability to move Apps to SD....which is improved now with GB.....and when ICS comes there will be moving to any Storage..
It has the ability to force move Apps which are not designed to be moved....sometimes for good reasons!!
When I had a ZTE Blade I also used Dark Tremors A2SD.....which moved Apps and Dalvik, etc to sd-ext 1G. partition.....
but I don't think it works on this phone.
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irishpancake said:
That's a good app OK....you can use FAT32 partition AFAIK
but I remember it was used before Froyo gave the ability to move Apps to SD....which is improved now with GB.....and when ICS comes there will be moving to any Storage..
It has the ability to force move Apps which are not designed to be moved....sometimes for good reasons!!
When I had a ZTE Blade I also used Dark Tremors A2SD.....which moved Apps and Dalvik, etc to sd-ext 1G. partition.....
but I don't think it works on this phone.
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yepp..use fat32.
last time I use it, it works but everytime I restart my wonder some apps can't open(apps that.i link), but it will be opened only if you reboot from link2sd..
yes it will force move apps but we can uncheck the re-link or unlink so the apps still in the internal,..for me, I used to install apps that not designed to be move first, and then install link2sd..
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Thank you for your replies
From my understanding from irishpancake reply, there is no need of swapping storages or external apps to move the application (that support move2sd feature) to the external sd card, which is great.
I had to swap mount points for my galaxy SL to do the same thing, but my brother is not into rooting/hacking stuff.
Thanks very much, and please correct me if I am wrong.

Don't forget App2SD App free from Market will notify you when movable App downloaded.....
https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.infolife.app2sd
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stpdkid said:
I use link2sd but first you have to make partition using minitool partition..
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Hi there..
I'm confused.. Can anyone show the way how to do the partition step-by-step..
Besides, I'm glad to join ya'll..

nalee said:
Hi there..
I'm confused.. Can anyone show the way how to do the partition step-by-step..
Besides, I'm glad to join ya'll..
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Hey there "confused" nalee!!
First question: you wanna partition ur External SD for why??
Have you run out of space on phone Internal Memory for Apps??
Second question: Have you tried moving Apps to External SD using the native Apps2SD which we have??
It is easy peezy.....and you don't need to create partition on ur External SD. If you wanna make it easier again, why not try App2SD, free from Market, which will notify you when Apps can be moved.
Or Gemini App Manager, which has the same function, plus a whole lot more!!!!
But, if you just wanna try out partitioning your SD, take a look at Link2SD web page.....
http://www.link2sd.info/description
You will need to D/L Minitool Partition Manager, if you got Windoze, or GParted tool for Linux.
You take responsibility for your own phone, so if you Brick or damage, no blame to me or Link2SD..
OK...
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Well Irishpancake, that was helpful enough.. but does it mean that there's no way to link any file to apps which is save in External Sd..? You know how huge the games file are... It's Like every I wanna play the games, I have to move the file to Usb-Storage, then play the game.. Do I have to do this all the time...?
I'm sorry if I'm too not understand since I changed Smsg W from Smsg Ace..
Bytheway, thanks alot...

nalee said:
Well Irishpancake, that was helpful enough.. but does it mean that there's no way to link any file to apps which is save in External Sd..? You know how huge the games file are... It's Like every I wanna play the games, I have to move the file to Usb-Storage, then play the game.. Do I have to do this all the time...?
I'm sorry if I'm too not understand since I changed Smsg W from Smsg Ace..
Bytheway, thanks alot...
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There is a manual way on rooted phone~
if you can run "Terminal Emulator" app on the phone and rooted:
1) su <-- run command as root
2) mount -o bind /sdcard/external_sd/<your directory with data files> /sdcard/<empty directory that will be used by your app>
or you can try this app "Directory Bind"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262&highlight=directory+bind
which actually do the same thing.

AdliHebat said:
There is a manual way on rooted phone~
if you can run "Terminal Emulator" app on the phone and rooted:
1) su <-- run command as root
2) mount -o bind /sdcard/external_sd/<your directory with data files> /sdcard/<empty directory that will be used by your app>
or you can try this app "Directory Bind"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262&highlight=directory+bind
which actually do the same thing.
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I am do glad you answer that question!!!!
Coz I have no idea.....
that App looks very good.
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irishpancake said:
Don't forget App2SD App free from Market will notify you when movable App downloaded.....
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We have the phone now, but it is not like what I understood at all.
That is really a problem.
The app2sd has 3 tabs (on phone, on sd card, phone only)
The on sd card tab shows the small total 1.7 GB internal card, and there is no tab for the external 16 GB card.
Does it mean there is no easy way to move the applications to the big 16GB memory?

nihongasukidesu said:
We have the phone now, but it is not like what I understood at all.
That is really a problem.
The app2sd has 3 tabs (on phone, on sd card, phone only)
The on sd card tab shows the small total 1.7 GB internal card, and there is no tab for the external 16 GB card.
Does it mean there is no easy way to move the applications to the big 16GB memory?
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Abdalla friend......
The App2SD app is misreporting.....
It assumes /mnt/sdcard is the external SD.....
and reports what it finds!!!!
But, if you select any App shown in the "On Phone" tab.....
and then select "Move to SD card" Option......
Your App will go to External SD in the
/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/.android_secure folder!!!!
App2SD is simply executing the native Android GB Apps to SD.....
The only useful function this app has is to Notify when Downloaded App can be moved......ensure you enable this in settings.
The actual moving is done by the native system move Apps function!!!
So, I would advise if you are manually moving all Apps, there is a "Move All' function!!!!
Also, can I recommend Storage Analyzer app, free from Market....
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.levelokment.storageanalyser
It is the only app I know of which allows you to see what is on the .android_secure folder from your phone, without needing to mount on your PC or Laptop.
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irishpancake said:
Also, can I recommend Storage Analyzer app, free from Market....
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.levelokment.storageanalyser
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Thank you for this tip, it is very nice app, really, but too much FC in the latest version

_jis_ said:
Thank you for this tip, it is very nice app, really, but too much FC in the latest version
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Never had a FC with Storage Analyzer.....
but perhaps it happens
I agree, it is a nice App.....
and very informative....
Thanx for ur thanx!!!!!
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Apps2sd is just moving the apps on SD card, but this SD card is just the usb storage only not the external sd card

irishpancake said:
Never had a FC with Storage Analyzer...
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For example use the three pattern button in the top right corner and try to show latest changes or about repeately.

_jis_ said:
For example use the three pattern button in the top right corner and try to show latest changes or about repeately.
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You have found a bug.....
It will FC after display of "What's new" page......V 0.9.1.
It does happen, but normal app usage is OK, it does what it says it does......
I would report that bug to the Dev!!
I'd say it is easily fixed.
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pao9195 said:
Apps2sd is just moving the apps on SD card, but this SD card is just the usb storage only not the external sd card
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You are incorrect if you are talking about app App2SD.....
or even if you are talking about Android native Apps2SD.......
and you have normal memory Mount Points.....
not modified "vold.fstab" as in some custom ROM's....
If you can show otherwise It would be helpful!!!
BTW.....you should not give out information unless you know it is correct.....
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[Q] Q: SD Card as Application Storage

I have a 16GB Galaxy Note II, and put a 32GB card into the unit. How do I use the SD Card for application storage, like my HTC EVO allowed me to do. I can't even use the Move To SD Card option in the Applications function under Settings.
Thank you.
LD

You cant as of right now. Jelly Bean wont allow it. I dont know if this works for the sprint version but on the international version they were rooting and then putting directory bind on to allow them to do apps2sd. I believe directory bind is found on xda only. I dont know where it is. I was thinking of using it myself.

yet another complaint I have with this phone! I wont lie for the price tag im running into a lot of things my old EVo 3D could do with ease that I am banging my head against the wall trying to figure out on this device.
SO the best work around that I have done is use a program called Directory bind. However you will need to root your device in order for this program to work right. So... I dont know how you feel about doing that or how savy you are in rooting and all that good stuff.
I will say that it only takes about 20 minutes to root the device and install Directory Bind now I have a lot of my programs stored on the SD card instead of in the phones internal memory still though there should be a cleaner way to do this than have to use a program to work around it..

Do you have a link to directory bind?

I'll leave this right here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss

sdcard0 to extsdcard
I found a scripts the tricks ICS to use your external sdcard as your internal storage. So when apps write data to sdcard0 it is actually writting to your external sd. I tried it and it works!
I dont have permission to post outside links but you can find it at galaxynote2root in the tutorials section.

Im not even worried about apps and their data moving to sdcard as much as I want a fix for the internal memory being labeled as sdcard..
On my past htc devices this wasnt the case... Its an issue having the Real sd card labeles as extSDcard because apps such as taparalk and my browser select the default term sdcard and dont allow the option to change the path to my real sdcard.
So anytime I save an image or a file it goea straight to internal storage instead of the sdcard. Again I could care less about apps2sd but I need to keep apps separated from files I download to the device. Dont want my phones 16 gigs being eaten up by my photos and music and roms and such..
Is there anyway to rename the sdcard without messing up the system any?
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chucktownscitch said:
Im not even worried about apps and their data moving to sdcard as much as I want a fix for the internal memory being labeled as sdcard..
On my past htc devices this wasnt the case... Its an issue having the Real sd card labeles as extSDcard because apps such as taparalk and my browser select the default term sdcard and dont allow the option to change the path to my real sdcard.
So anytime I save an image or a file it goea straight to internal storage instead of the sdcard. Again I could care less about apps2sd but I need to keep apps separated from files I download to the device. Dont want my phones 16 gigs being eaten up by my photos and music and roms and such..
Is there anyway to rename the sdcard without messing up the system any?
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Ok, try ICS SD Binder in the app store. It will provide I link inside your sdcard0 directory that will give you the option to save your images to your extsdcard. So in what ever app your using if it has the options in the settings to choose your save directory, ICS SD Binder will provide the link to your extsdcard.

hoth66 said:
Ok, try ICS SD Binder in the app store. It will provide I link inside your sdcard0 directory that will give you the option to save your images to your extsdcard. So in what ever app your using if it has the options in the settings to choose your save directory, ICS SD Binder will provide the link to your extsdcard.
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in the first box "original mount point" do i need to select /mnt/sdcard or /mnt/extSdCard ?
and New mount point should just be labeled external_sd. Do i need to check any of the boxes below?
Excuse the noobness with this app, never had to do this before with my other devices, it just worked as it should and didnt have internal memory lableled as sdcard when it wasnt.
Thanks in advance.

Just check bind sd to new mount point, you don't have to change anything else.
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ok ..so just to make sure..
before i go bricking my device...Link2SD does NOT work work with the Note2? or it does? I would like to be able to move my Large apps to the SD card and since im used to HTC devices(mainly the OG evo) the use of the internal card is throwing me off. Also i do not see the option to create SD EXT in the recovery i have loaded(TWRP as was suggested not to user clockwork)..so would i need to have that done on the PC?
Any help is helpfull..
MrMafesto

MafestoPresents said:
before i go bricking my device...Link2SD does NOT work work with the Note2? or it does? I would like to be able to move my Large apps to the SD card and since im used to HTC devices(mainly the OG evo) the use of the internal card is throwing me off. Also i do not see the option to create SD EXT in the recovery i have loaded(TWRP as was suggested not to user clockwork)..so would i need to have that done on the PC?
Any help is helpfull..
MrMafesto
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Link2SD does not work on the Note2. You need to use ICS SD BINDER. I tried it my self on my rooted GN2. But this will not let you run your apps from the sdcard. It only provides a link or a shortcut if you will in your sdcard0 directory that targets your external sdcard. So if you have an app that saves data and it lets you browse a location for the data in your sdcard0 directory, this gives you the opportunity to point that in your external sdcard directory. Ex, I use a app to hide my pic on my phone. the hidden encrypted pic are stored in the sdcard0 dir, and it does not give me now option to browse my external sdcard and save the files there, this app solves that problem.
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There is an app out there called directory bind that people use on the S3, I will try it out and post my results

hoth66 said:
Link2SD does not work on the Note2. You need to use ICS SD BINDER. I tried it my self on my rooted GN2. But this will not let you run your apps from the sdcard. It only provides a link or a shortcut if you will in your sdcard0 directory that targets your external sdcard. So if you have an app that saves data and it lets you browse a location for the data in your sdcard0 directory, this gives you the opportunity to point that in your external sdcard directory. Ex, I use a app to hide my pic on my phone. the hidden encrypted pic are stored in the sdcard0 dir, and it does not give me now option to browse my external sdcard and save the files there, this app solves that problem.
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There is an app out there called directory bind that people use on the S3, I will try it out and post my results
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Ok, it was a little complicated, but it does work. He did real good job. There is a youtube video up demonstrating how it works. It's very helpful.

Thats awesome hoth66..thanks for being the guinea pig! Got a link for that video?
Im sure I can find it if not..either way...good show!!
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There's also a script you can run using script manager. Much simpler in my opinion. Makes the phone think the external sd is the internal memory. I haven't hqd any problems other than much more free space
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Rado_vr6 said:
There's also a script you can run using script manager. Much simpler in my opinion. Makes the phone think the external sd is the internal memory. I haven't hqd any problems other than much more free space
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Rado...Do U possibly have a link for that script ..or a faq about it?

Go to galaxynote2root.com he has a really good YouTube video and links to the files needed.
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^^^This
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If I switch my sdcard with internal memory, will that render all of the apps installed in internal memory useless?

mugenga said:
If I switch my sdcard with internal memory, will that render all of the apps installed in internal memory useless?
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Nope, everything works as is.
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Internal sd near full

Is there a way to move large applications to extenal sd card?
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lilmeanz said:
Is there a way to move large applications to extenal sd card?
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There are quite a few apps in the market that allow it.

With the galaxy s3 you can't install apps and run them from the SD card... unless you do the storage swap mod...

yeah none work they all say phone not supported

DamageSource said:
With the galaxy s3 you can't install apps and run them from the SD card... unless you do the storage swap mod...
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Im having dificulties finding the storage swap mod for the S3. Can anyone help? I use alot of games and my storage is full!! (ROOTED)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886091
Be careful..if you do it wrong when ever you try to install apps it will say "storage space full" and you have to Odin back to stock to fix..but if you do it right its a good thing to have..also use titanium backup and back IP the games you're not currently playing and save them for when you want to play them and restore.. read the thread carefully as I do not know if it works with jelly bean if you're on that.
EDIT***** Theres also this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849857

Es explorer will allow you to move files from internal to external

way to have apps to sd besides SM?

does anyone have a more stable way to install apps to the SD besides script manager? that works horribly for me

Try the link 2 sd.
But you may create a partition in your sd card first before you can use it though.
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hmm ill try it because the scripts randomly worked on boot, randomly stopped working, the camera went haywire ugh to many problems

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chessx said:
hmm ill try it because the scripts randomly worked on boot, randomly stopped working, the camera went haywire ugh to many problems
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Your phone? What is it? I can provide you links on how to make a partition in your sd card, though system apps has it exception
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chessx said:
does anyone have a more stable way to install apps to the SD besides script manager? that works horribly for me
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I never had an issue are you sure you setted it to su and boot?
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FolderMount works good.

Whats the difference between link2sd and foldermount?
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d12unk13astard said:
Whats the difference between link2sd and foldermount?
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I haven't used link2sd much but from a quick glance, it looks like link2sd will move app and its cache to the sd card. FolderMount on the other hand will create symbolic links (I think I am correct here if not correct me) to your SD Card. So if you want to move say a gameloft game where it has 2gb of game files on your phone to your sd you can do that with FolderMount.

I use a zip file flashed in recovery that swaps internal and external sd. I think Its called internalsd2externalsd.zip
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chessx said:
does anyone have a more stable way to install apps to the SD besides script manager? that works horribly for me
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a lot will depend on what ROM you're running. As you've seen, there is quite some variance in the answers given.
slightly generic, if you're on a Android 4.2, your options are going to be limited. You can try foldermount. The developer is pretty active in maintaining the app. You can try a script some developed; I've seen it in the directory mount thread, but that may be just to use directory mount in 4.2.
if you're on 4.1, you have quite a few opitons--FolderMount, Directory Bind, scripts changing the SDcard to the internal memory, etc.

App2sd for leaked 4.3

Im using n7100 with wannam rom 4.3. Is there any mode for 4.3 like the app2sd mod?
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Its a feature of 4.3..so no use of installing 3rd party app. Go to settings>application mgr>desired app>move to sd
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mannyvinny said:
Its a feature of 4.3..so no use of installing 3rd party app. Go to settings>application mgr>desired app>move to sd
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Can anyone confirm this? App2sd was a feature on Android 2.2, but we know that Sammy likes to mess with our heads and intentionally disabled this feature on our Note 2. Is it now enabled, by Sammy, on 4.3?

want new app2sd script for 4.3 note 2
i'm on ditto note 3 rom v3.1
move2sd feature on 4.3 rom just moves the app from internal storage to external storage but doesn't swap internal and external memory locations.
MY PROBLEM
app2sd script which worked fine in 4.1.2 not working for new 4.3 rom. im using 64gb sd card. so please can anyone find me the solution

please fix this app2sd issue
i play lot of games and it is difficult for me without swapping memory cards to use them

Honestly, I've abandoned the standard app2sd in favor of using foldermount. I've moved all my big games to my external sd card (over 10gb) and anything under 100mb I just leave on the device. I now have close to 7gb free on my phone.
The great thing about using foldermount is that after you flash a new rom, you simply remount the folders within the app and when you download the game again from the app store, it only needs to download the app, not the huge asset files which go along. Using app2sd you lose this handy trick.
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EP2008 said:
Honestly, I've abandoned the standard app2sd in favor of using foldermount. I've moved all my big games to my external sd card (over 10gb) and anything under 100mb I just leave on the device. I now have close to 7gb free on my phone.
The great thing about using foldermount is that after you flash a new rom, you simply remount the folders within the app and when you download the game again from the app store, it only needs to download the app, not the huge asset files which go along. Using app2sd you lose this handy trick.
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in folder mount i cant mount folder which has subfolders in it which i dont like at all