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A friend and I both have a desire, updated to the latest version of Android and running 5.09 radio. Neither of us use it extensively and I can get easily through the day on a charge, mostly having upwards of 30% battery charge left when I go to bed, while his can barely do 8 hours before needing a recharge.
He's already taken it to the store to have it looked at once and it came back performing the same.
I've been looking at his currentwidget log and the consumption seems fine to me, however the battery drain is much larger than I'd expect in return.
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Anyone have any idea what's going on? Please help!
Are you two using same ROMs..??
I'm rooted, he's not, but I'm using basically the same thing. My battery usage hasn't changed, while upgrading from 2.1 to 2.2, his hasn't either. But his has been crap from the beginning.
Swap phones for a few days. Perhaps he's in an area where by reception is poor compared to you. The phone would use more power trying to get a better signal?
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Does he play games all the time? Does he use GPS, Bluetooth, WLAN? And you?
how does it perform in airplane mode?
Install Android System Info and take a look at the task list, CPU load should hover around 10-20% after a few seconds. If it's higher find the task and report back.
He said if he just leaves it on the shelf with sync disabled, no calls and no notifications, it gets 12 hours tops. I get 48 like that.
Does he use Live Wallpaper? I found out that if I use a plain picture instead of live wallpaper, the power drain is much lower.
Has anyone even looked at the currentwidget log?
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Has anyone even looked at the currentwidget log?
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Yep, and you're losing battery very fast in what looks to be an idle phone. Every few minutes the power drain is shooting up for a period and then fluctuating to higher than it should be in idle (between 7-70mA drain in idle means the phone isn't idle). Many services and widgets that are known as power hungry seem to be running too. Due to the logging limitations, I can't see if they are the ones causing power fluctuations or otherwise.
I mean, have you done any one hour experimentation with cell on vs. cell off to see the battery loss differences?
What about cell off, display off for an hour vs. cell on, display on for an hour - what are the percentage drops in both cases for the device?
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Can't really test like that, since he lives 150kms away. I'll see if he can lend the phone to me for a few days and I'll run both in an as identical manner as I can.
If people like andycted and bemymonkey have much spare time to reply, that would help you much since I consider them more expert in this area (they know far more than me).
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Calibrate the battery?
Hi,
I'm planning on buying a Desire HD, but just curious about battery life before I lay down a grand on it.
At the moment I have an HTC Hero, when they were in their heyday many people complained about the short life on them. I can get 2 days out of mine, with syncing over wifi enabled the whole time. I put the complaints down to people with background apps sucking CPU or too much twitter/facebook/whatever crap syncing as well.
Now most of the reports of poor Desire HD battery I life are from people on their first charge (who clearly don't understand the characteristics of Li-ion batteries), people who expect to be able to thrash the phone all day with the screen on without it dying and generally people who just don't sound like they know what they're talking about.
I know there are two bugs which peg the CPU at 100%, the one fixed by having debugging on and the calendar bug, which sounds like it can be fixed by clearing calendar data or leaving syncing off. I think these were affecting some of the people who were complaining about the short battery life.
So my question for Desire HD owners is, can you last at least 6 am till 10 pm with a bit of use (something like 10 min browsing, 20 min IM, email syncing all day, 1 hr music, 20 min calls) without it dying? Currently my Hero does this fine and a full day without a charge is a requirement for me.
Thanks.
Yes, if you set it up correctly. From your post it sounds like you know what your doing when setting it up.
Before i tried the battery calibration i was getting from 8am to 9pm with moderate usage. TBH i was put off by using it as I thought it would just die on me too soon.
After the calibration (search forum for it) i got from 8am to 4pm the following day where the 15% warning hit. So do the calibration and you'll be as happy as i now am with it. I never got my iPhone 4 to last that long!
Thanks for the info guys, exactly what I wanted to hear!
I haven't taken any precautions to save battery life and I am getting 25-26 hours on a full charge...and now having had the phone for 2-3 weeks it seems to be getting even better!! I've been getting 36 hours out of a full charge these past 3 days.
I do not turn wifi off. I have screen brightness on auto. Syncing lots of stuff hourly (even weather!). I use 3g when I go out but this is about 2-3 hours tops on week days cause I have wifi everywhere i go. battery life has never been an issue for me and I use my phone frequently...play games for 20-30 mins. watch videos via. skynews, listen to some music etc. etc.
As for the bugs...I do not have usb debugging turned on and I have never had the /INIT problem...perhaps it was fixed in the last update? and the calender bug...never had that problem either and I use my calander with google calander, facebook, holidays and person agenda.
I think you'll easily last a day with the usage you mention. As a rule, I think you normally get up to 4 hours display on usage off a charge (browsing, messaging, watching vids etc).
I'm travelling from Ireland to NZ on Monday, which will equate to 36 hours travelling with probably no access to a charge, and lots of time spent sitting around using my dhd. There's no way the phone will last right through, so have bought a 5000mAh USB battery pack for £20.
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Might be useful to you -
http://hemorrdroids.net/battery-calibration/
http://hemorrdroids.net/htc-desire-hd-battery-life/
I'm currently at 22 hours and still at 42%.
I get 2 to 4 hours depending on useage from full charge. 8 - 9 hours if left on standby and not used for anything.
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AndyCr15 said:
I'm currently at 22 hours and still at 42%.
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I'd be interested to know what kind of usage that's with?
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I'd be interested to know what kind of usage that's with?
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Well...I think I have had similar results....
flash one of the custom roms, with one of the OCUV kernels and setting max. speed to one of the UV speeds (mine is set to 1.1 Ghz which is UV 50mV), also setup useful profiles in Setcpu (I have set screen-off to use max 384 mhz - which does cause a 1-3 sec lag when screen is on again) and <20% battery etc...
of course, if you play heavily with your dhd you will not get these results, so you can put wifi on with this , but need to think of what you want to do, because using your DHD for 2 days, does require limited screen usage (imho, this uses a lot of battery)
l0w said:
I get 2 to 4 hours depending on useage from full charge. 8 - 9 hours if left on standby and not used for anything.
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8-9 hours on standby???????????
even 2-4 hours whilst using it is terrible!!! When I got my HD and unpacked it I didn't put it down after a full charge and I got 8 and a half hours with non-stop heavy use.
I think you have a faulty battery!!
jbrizz said:
Hi,
At the moment I have an HTC Hero, when they were in their heyday many people complained about the short life on them. I can get 2 days out of mine, with syncing over wifi enabled the whole time. I put the complaints down to people with background apps sucking CPU or too much twitter/facebook/whatever crap syncing as well.
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I too moved from a Hero to a DHD and I can say that with similar usage, the DHD loses to the Hero by a decent margin..maybe u might get a couple of hours less of usage compared to the Hero but the difference isn't very drastic
Moreover on the Hero I'm using CM6.1 Froyo overclocked and the DHD is on Sense, so logically speaking the Hero should get slightly better battery life on CM6.1 compared to Sense. I'm sure after rooting and flashing CM6.1 and undervolting/underclock the DHD, i'd get better battery life because the DHD is like much much faster than the Hero, so I'm sure even if i underclock it, it'll still be super fast.
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8-9 hours on standby???????????
even 2-4 hours whilst using it is terrible!!! When I got my HD and unpacked it I didn't put it down after a full charge and I got 8 and a half hours with non-stop heavy use.
I think you have a faulty battery!!
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The battery is 'fine' i'm using current widget to track and its performing to around 1100 mah which is not too far below spec. The problem is the current draw. In use i'm drawing 500 to 800 mA and in standby around 80 to 300 mA. These figures are consistent with the battery life I'm seeing and the battery working close to spec (1230mAh i think?)
There are lots of bundled apps like Maps running all the time in standby drawing current and I haven't yet figured out how to stop them. Stopping them with task manager just sees them restart with even bigger current draw.
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Something is definitely wrong (as I'm sure you're aware) with only 9 hours on standby.
Out of interest, remove ALL widgets and see what difference it makes. Also, give us an example of what processes are running?
I would get rid of all task killers and also anything monitoring your system. Those themselves can draw more than you think.
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The battery is 'fine' i'm using current widget to track and its performing to around 1100 mah which is not too far below spec. The problem is the current draw. In use i'm drawing 500 to 800 mA and in standby around 80 to 300 mA. These figures are consistent with the battery life I'm seeing and the battery working close to spec (1230mAh i think?)
There are lots of bundled apps like Maps running all the time in standby drawing current and I haven't yet figured out how to stop them. Stopping them with task manager just sees them restart with even bigger current draw.
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wow well I'm no battery expert but it really sounds like something is not right there. I don't have any battery drain from apps in standby and I do use maps.
I got 1 day and 16 hours from a full charge today (just put it back on charge now).
Thats with wifi on for 31 hours (always on, doesnt sleep when the screen locks), 1 hour and 24 mins of talk time and the screen on for 4 hours and 5 mins.
l0w said:
The battery is 'fine' i'm using current widget to track and its performing to around 1100 mah which is not too far below spec. The problem is the current draw. In use i'm drawing 500 to 800 mA and in standby around 80 to 300 mA. These figures are consistent with the battery life I'm seeing and the battery working close to spec (1230mAh i think?)
There are lots of bundled apps like Maps running all the time in standby drawing current and I haven't yet figured out how to stop them. Stopping them with task manager just sees them restart with even bigger current draw.
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thats definitely wrong somehow.. should never drain that much, perhaps it is because you let currentwidget drain it all the time
(na dont know why it is like that but it definitely is way too high)
official firmware, medium screen brightness, default sync widgets
heavy use: 12-15 hours
light use: 24 to 36 hours
this is how its been for me ever since the battery calibrated, needs around a week or use the battery calibration trick
I too have just moved from a Hero (running VillainRom 12) to the DHD (stock Sense over FroYo) and even though I have only had it a week, the battery easily lasts a whole day with the moderate use you describe. Unless I get stuck into a session of " Angry Birds ", which seems to kill the battery pretty fast. But ABs had the same affect on my Hero. Constant screen time on that beautiful 4.3" display sucks the battery. I find the same thing when using the DHD as an in-car gps. The warmth of the back of the case is testament to how much energy has been expended. So I connect to the car charger now. I have also bought a portable backup battery (plugs into the microUSB) just in case.
I don't regret spending NZD1000 on the DHD. My son is looking forward to inheriting the Hero.
Well I charged it up overnight when I got it, my first full day was today and I got 7 am till 8:30 pm using it almost constantly (quiet day at work). I don't know how people can run them flat a day with normal use. And I know it'll improve a lot after a few charge cycles.
It doesn't look like it's going to be much worse than my Hero.
Thanks for all the advice. I uninstalled all widgets and it improved a little. But still things like maps/maps sync were constantly burning juice and no way of stopping them running.
I installed Launcher Pro and can report that my battery life has approximately doubled. Typically i was getting 4 - 6 hrs use and sometimes only 2 (light use). Now getting between 8 and 12 hours of fairly heavy use. Its still not up to some of the figures others are reporting but Launcher Pro has helped a lot as all those constantly running apps that were draining my battery just dont start themselves up any more!
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i was hoping somebody had optimal setcpu uv settings. i'm trying to squeeze every last drop from my battery but i really don't know how to set it up. any help would be great.
Read this.
I'm using these settings and my phone lasts for 5 days (no gaming ofc. )
thanks. trying those settings now
Theres no such thing as optimal settings...everyones phone has different tolerances...
Go down in steps of 25 and stress test is the best way...Trail and error.
This belongs in Q&A ...not here
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yea i used the settings in the link as a starting point and managed to lower them a little. is it just me or does that 4 days on a charge seem a little too good to be true? the best i can get seems to be around 1.5% of a 1650mah battery per hour in standby. about as good as my hd2 running gbx 12 got. the phone does go into deep sleep (76% since reboot) but i don't get anywhere near the tiny battery drain some do. the setcpu uc and uv adjustments did help some but not as much as i had hoped for, guess i'm just gonna have to get a bigger battery.
i put it here 'cause it was a setcpu question. i know its turning into something else. sorry 'bout that.
Thats because you have wakelocks. In deep sleep, I get a maximum of 5% battery usage over a 10-12h period. Check if some apps are keeping your phone from going into deep sleep.
yea i have quite a few wakelocks but they only are "active?" for a few seconds. k-9 was the biggest culprit but a bunch were system processes. i set k-9 now to not poll but i don't know what do do for the rest.
how do you know if the wakelock is a partial or is locked? do the partial ones keep the phone from sleeping all the time or only when the app/service is active? is there any way to suspend/overide partial wakelocks on a per case basis so email and such can update but still blocking some? i've done a little reading but this seems more complicated than it should be.
Hi ppl,
probably all of you already noticed this trick.
Just in case you didn't... here it is.
On 2nd charge, I could see battery charge graph going down with no stop, even with screen off !
So, I installed BetterBatteryStats (XDA).
Battery killer was HTC Weather.
Guess what ?
On a freshly, just bought HTC One X, Sense refreshes, hourly
Your weather's location (so also GPS eating battery, but it's perhaps acceptable)
Weather from the most important cities in your country (Italy = 15 more or less) !!!!
Once removed all those static defined cities, leaving just the "where I am" and 1 static, HTC Weater became tamed and sane.
And my battery graph on screen off is now FLAT. With Wifi and data on.
I'll not get more scientific here.
The issue is very subtle and unsuspicious; the trick is very easy; the benefits are TREMENDOUS.
I also made refresh interval up to 3 hours. It should help too.
Still, the terrific impact was given by removing those 15 static locations.
I also left enabled the "refresh when opening weather" flag.
Happy trying !
chareos12 said:
Hi ppl,
probably all of you already noticed this trick.
Just in case you didn't... here it is.
On 2nd charge, I could see battery charge graph going down with no stop, even with screen off !
So, I installed BetterBatteryStats (XDA).
Battery killer was HTC Weather.
Guess what ?
On a freshly, just bought HTC One X, Sense refreshes, hourly
Your weather's location (so also GPS eating battery)
Weather from the most important cities in your country (Italy = 15 more or less) !!!!
Once removed all those static defined cities, leaving just the "where I am" and 1 static, HTC Weater became tamed and sane.
And my battery graph on screen off is now FLAT. With Wifi and data on.
I'll not get more scientific here.
The issue is very subtle and unsuspicious; the trick is very easy; the benefits are TREMENDOUS.
Happy trying !
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I did this on my Rom (charmander) just has your location and that's it. Always done this on my personal roms also but never thought of it so save battery lol.
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It has dramatic battery usage.
Then, I also made refresh interval up to 3 hours. It may help too.
Still, the terrific impact was given by removing those 15 static locations.
First thing I've done since my Desire is remove everything except 'My current location'...I don't need to know the weather anywhere else!
EddyOS said:
First thing I've done since my Desire is remove everything except 'My current location'...I don't need to know the weather anywhere else!
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Couldnt agree more. Who cares about weather somewhere else!
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Who cares about inaccurate accuweather info anyway, it's terrible. The only thing it's good for is telling me what it's like now (I have known that to be wrong too). I've got these amazing glass panels in my walls so I can see what the weather is like now. I just don't use it so I turn weather sync off.
I only wish there was an option to change where the weather data comes from like in so many other apps/widgets. MeteoGroup, for example, seems much better.
Same here and ive hit 3 days and 3.5 hours of.screen time.before now.
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Actually I can understand that 1-2 static places could be handy, while planning a trip on a sudden.
But... 15 static places (can't imagine how many they were in bigger countries !!) is just a plain overkill, a complete suicide by HTC.
About accuracy... it seems precise enough here in Italy. Surely it's different as per country.
Please could you take screenshots of your screen on time and battery usage page also what brightness your using. I have a One X resting in the box because it simply can't make it through a working day. My Nokia N8 with the same type of usage. GPS,Weather,whatsapp,calls,web. Is full to almost full by 5pm. Mind you this is with 3G turned off.
Now I'm not expecting the one X to be anywhere near that good but if this would mean the phone lasts me an entire day of normal smartphone usage then I might just dust it off xD.
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Please could you take screenshots of your screen on time and battery usage page also what brightness your using. I have a One X resting in the box because it simply can't make it through a working day. My Nokia N8 with the same type of usage. GPS,Weather,whatsapp,calls,web. Is full to almost full by 5pm. Mind you this is with 3G turned off.
Now I'm not expecting the one X to be anywhere near that good but if this would mean the phone lasts me an entire day of normal smartphone usage then I might just dust it off xD.
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Check the battery stats thread.
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Hmm, seems quite decent. You have some amazing on screen time. I could barely manage 3hrs with auto brightness. Did you notice this increase after removing the other city locations?
What were your stats before removing the extra weather app cities?
I would actually love to know the OP's stats. He says its "TREMENDOUS"
i have not even touched the settings to weather and mine (based in london dunno if makes difference) only shows my current location and refresh every 6 hours or upon open that was my default settings
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Please could you take screenshots of your screen on time and battery usage page also what brightness your using. I have a One X resting in the box because it simply can't make it through a working day. My Nokia N8 with the same type of usage. GPS,Weather,whatsapp,calls,web. Is full to almost full by 5pm. Mind you this is with 3G turned off.
Now I'm not expecting the one X to be anywhere near that good but if this would mean the phone lasts me an entire day of normal smartphone usage then I might just dust it off xD.
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Yup, not really going to take screenshots today
I'd say to you that today I noticed
- phone unplugged at 9.45
- 18.30 (so nearly 9 hours later) I had 3hrs screen on time - intense usage due to SSLauncher setting up - and still 40% battery left.
3G on all the time, a couple of calls, many market downloads.
Vandal4125 said:
Hmm, seems quite decent. You have some amazing on screen time. I could barely manage 3hrs with auto brightness. Did you notice this increase after removing the other city locations?
What were your stats before removing the extra weather app cities?
I would actually love to know the OP's stats. He says its "TREMENDOUS"
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Before the Weather static positions cleanup: 2 hours screen on, battery empty.
After the cleanup: 3+ hours and still 25-30% battery to go.
As I stated in 1st post, I won't go much scientific, other threads are already there with much more data and insight...
yet, the improvement looks TREMENDOUS *thunder* *evil laugh* to me
Back to my phone... 1% battery left
I see:
12h 7min unplugged
4h 49 screen on time
all time with 3G on, all sync (Facebook, Linkedin) on, intense usage due to device setting up (SSLauncher, maps regions pre-download, Flipboard sync and a lot more)
Won't go more scientific than this
Awesome guys, just put the phone on charge, lets see how it goes tomorrow Maybe I'll finally fall in love with my One X
So I took it of the charger @ 6am today. It is now 5pm and normally the battery would be dead by now. At the moment it is @ 43%.
My brightness is set to auto and the phone tells me my on screen time is only 53mins. You guys are talking about something like 4hrs on screen with this fix. So I don't think it has improved much.
However I'm sure that my battery stats are off because it tells me it's only been off the charger for 4hrs. So I can put up actual stats tomorrow, if it resets properly tonight.
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So I took it of the charger @ 6am today. It is now 5pm and normally the battery would be dead by now. At the moment it is @ 43%.
My brightness is set to auto and the phone tells me my on screen time is only 53mins. You guys are talking about something like 4hrs on screen with this fix. So I don't think it has improved much.
However I'm sure that my battery stats are off because it tells me it's only been off the charger for 4hrs. So I can put up actual stats tomorrow, if it resets properly tonight.
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I noticed that if you reboot the phone, every counter (unplugged time, screen on time) resets, f*cking up measurements.
Could it possibly be your case ?
Damn, I'm going too scientific
Hey you guys,
I charged my phone to 100%, unplugged the cable and went to bed at 3:00am in the morning, when I woke up at 7:00a, the battery went down to 94%.
I looked at the battery usage, there was no Screen usage listed -even though I have the Night clock on-, and the Android System took the cake at 36% followed by Android OS at 14%, the rest of them were small numbers.
I have disabled bunch of packages through EZ Disabler, I have my screen on Auto and the slider is at 30%. I have all the Edge functions off. I do have Always On enabled but I have it disabled at night through the morning.
Now after a minimum browsing, looking through the settings, trying to figure out what's going on, the battery is at 82%, 14% drop in an hour or so.
I came from an iPhone 6 Plus, I've never heard a battery drop 6% on idle within 4 hours time. That's just crazy.
A few questions I have:
01. Is my battery defective?
02. When you Force Stop an application, will it auto start after you restart?
Thank you
A drain of 6% with the night clock on looks totally fine to me. Mine does the same as well. I also had alm the bloat wares disabled earlier, then I re-enabled them since the battery life dropped again. Things seems to settling in for me now. Can go a fill day with around 4.5hrs of screen on time.
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Thanks for the respond Amith007
I expect some battery consumption when the screen is used for the Night clock, but is 6% drop within 4 hours time normal? Maybe it is? I don't have experience with an Android device before.
I'm going to test it out tonight without the Night clock to see if I still get the drain or not.
I don't know what burnt it though, was it from the screen or from the app itself, because I don't see Screen usage under the battery usage.
From what i read, the always on screen feature isn't supposed to consume more than 1% per hour. Mine also seems to eat more battery than that though.
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so leave it on the charger at night
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Thanks for the respond Amith007
I expect some battery consumption when the screen is used for the Night clock, but is 6% drop within 4 hours time normal? Maybe it is? I don't have experience with an Android device before.
I'm going to test it out tonight without the Night clock to see if I still get the drain or not.
I don't know what burnt it though, was it from the screen or from the app itself, because I don't see Screen usage under the battery usage.
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I belive you will still see some drain even with the night clock turned off. It's mainly due to the app or service running in the background. I see a drain of 5 to 6% over a period of 7hrs while I sleep. You can out the apps to sleep manually from the Battery menu if you are extremely concerned about it.
The overall battery life is not so good for me after switching to Note 7 from Nexus 6P. However the quick charge sort of solves the problem for me. The charging is extremely fast when compared to my iPhone 6Plus. So I stopped bothering too much about it . I guess it's good if you can make it a day with almost 4.5hrs of screen on time.
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It seems normal to me. That being said, Samsung does have more bloatware and even if you disabled a lot of things, there might still be background processes that are using up battery.
Also, if you haven't already, set screen brightness at auto if you don't want a super bright always on display at night
Thanks all. Sounds like it's the norm then.
A little bit of disappointment to be honest, but I guess I just need to get used to it. It feels like the same experience I had to go through when switching from iPhone 4 to a Windows Phone years ago, but eventually I managed. Plenty of promising features this Note 7 has, too bad if I have to turn off a lot of them for the sake of the battery.
@ParishM
The reason why I left it uncharged is to test out the drain.
A quick question:
I know this just came out last week, but do you guys use a portable battery that you would like to recommend that is optimal for USB type C?
I belive there is an official 3100 battery pack case from Samsung if you wish to charge while on the run
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
There are several Type C quick charge battery packs on amazon which you can look at. I am sure reading the reviews will be a good idea. I can't speak for one as I have never used one so far.
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@amith007
Thanks for the Samsung recommendation, I will take a look at that.
The Amazon review, I'm sure they can be trusted, but I'd prefer a recommendation from this community better. Plenty of the reviews are based on a free product they receive in return for their "honest and unbias' review, I don't know whether to trust them or not.
Lol, those honest and unbiased reviews in exchange of free product are very trustworthy