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My phone is really starting to piss me off. I've had this thing for a damn month now and I've had one goal-to achieve battery life to get me through a typical day and have a solid working device that I can depend on.
Do I have that? Hell no.
I'm getting force closes on Gmail, com.htc.bgp is sucking resources according to the Watchdog giving me alerts constantly about it.
According to Current Widget my screen off mA is about 80-100 which I know is ridiculously high. When the screen is on it's close to 440-500 mA.
I have netarchy 4.2 cfs-bfq-more-smartass and according to the kernel testing webpage, those numbers are way too high for this kernel. I'm on Myn's RLS 3 also.
I have the newest Lowrider theme flashed.
Mobile data is not set to be always on.
Background data is off.
I don't know what could possibly be wrong? A rogue app? Something is just not right here.
PS-I'm rooted with Unrevoked and have Clockwork MOD recovery.
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Well what do you want your Up Time/ Awake Time to be like?
ms79723 said:
Well what do you want your Up Time/ Awake Time to be like?
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Well, right now my up time is 7 hours 44 minutes and the awake time is 1 hour 42 minutes. I have 29% battery remaining and phone has only been off the charger from a full 100% charge for about 8 hours.
I would like to have between 15-20 hours of Up Time and about 5-6 hours of awake time.
jhoffy22 said:
Well, right now my up time is 7 hours 44 minutes and the awake time is 1 hour 42 minutes. I have 29% battery remaining and phone has only been off the charger from a full 100% charge for about 8 hours.
I would like to have between 15-20 hours of Up Time and about 5-6 hours of awake time.
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ahhhhh aiight. hmm...
Try switching your governor to conservative in setcpu. but for screen off, make your max the option right above 245 (i cant remember that number..i think its 384?) and the min 128 and set that governor at smartass.
For your advanced options, keep the top box at default and make the next boxes this:
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How do you charge your phone? USB or wall adapter?
Okay I'll try that but I don't think that it's SetCpu...because I uninstalled it and everything was still funky even after a reboot. This is really pissing me off.
Well I'm not saying setCPU is the problem because it hardly ever is. But with the conservative governor, things should be a lot better based on how it deals with the underclocking.
ms79723 said:
Well I'm not saying setCPU is the problem because it hardly ever is. But with the conservative governor, things should be a lot better based on how it deals with the underclocking.
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Yeah but I still have the issue of having high power draw when the screen is off. I just don't think that the CPU is sleeping right or the phone itself. I just want to figure out what is wrong here. Could the theme maybe be the reason? I don't see any reason as Watchdog isn't reporting any apps to be high CPU consuming.
Does Lookout Mobile Security tax your battery?
EDIT: I always use a wall charger, the stock one that came with the phone.
jhoffy22 said:
Yeah but I still have the issue of having high power draw when the screen is off. I just don't think that the CPU is sleeping right or the phone itself. I just want to figure out what is wrong here. Could the theme maybe be the reason? I don't see any reason as Watchdog isn't reporting any apps to be high CPU consuming.
Does Lookout Mobile Security tax your battery?
EDIT: I always use a wall charger, the stock one that came with the phone.
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You're not the only one. I'm right there with you, bro. I went from Fresh to Azrael, and I've got the same battery suckage. I blamed Lowrider, too, but that's not it.
I noticed at one time today that I spent 39% of my time searching for the Sprint network, which I know is complete crap.
I keep 4G turned off at the office, where my signal isn't great, but I know it's better than 39%.
Some app is eating my battery, and it's gotten worse since I flashed the latest ROMS.
I'd try looking at your logcat to see if there is any unusual errors. It might bring out what is wrong.
However, I have to ask, have you tried the battery fix? I'm getting around 24 hours with moderate use, my average screen off mA is about 90.
What exactly is the battery fix? Just calibrating the battery?
Get this ****, now my computer isn't recognizing my phone. It's saying "USB device not recognized"
Have you tried wiping your cache and dalvik? It sounds like that or possibly your system files have been corrupted. If wiping doesn't work I would try flashing another copy of your ROM.
Maybe you have a faulty battery. Maybe it's the kernel not placing nicely with the battery. Anyways, you can't really get mad at the phone when you're running homebrewed/dev custom roms and kernels that don't come standard on the device. Have you tried running it stock and seeing if you still get the same results?
With the USB disconnection, have you tried these solutions from here
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What exactly is the battery fix? Just calibrating the battery?
Get this ****, now my computer isn't recognizing my phone. It's saying "USB device not recognized"
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Yeah, pretty much thats the battery fix. Its listed on the homepage of the Kernel Benchmarking site, among several other useful things.
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ahhhhh aiight. hmm...
Try switching your governor to conservative in setcpu. but for screen off, make your max the option right above 245 (i cant remember that number..i think its 384?) and the min 128 and set that governor at smartass.
For your advanced options, keep the top box at default and make the next boxes this:
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How do you charge your phone? USB or wall adapter?
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Man, those settings are strait. I've tried every kernel under the sun, Myn's rom with netarchy's Nohavs, and Collins battery tweak, which I installed correctly and took, nothing worked. I had even used setcpu, and it didn't work. I then applied these setting and my battery life has tripled. Thanks!
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My phone is really starting to piss me off. I've had this thing for a damn month now and I've had one goal-to achieve battery life to get me through a typical day and have a solid working device that I can depend on.
Do I have that? Hell no.
I'm getting force closes on Gmail, com.htc.bgp is sucking resources according to the Watchdog giving me alerts constantly about it.
According to Current Widget my screen off mA is about 80-100 which I know is ridiculously high. When the screen is on it's close to 440-500 mA.
I have netarchy 4.2 cfs-bfq-more-smartass and according to the kernel testing webpage, those numbers are way too high for this kernel. I'm on Myn's RLS 3 also.
I have the newest Lowrider theme flashed.
Mobile data is not set to be always on.
Background data is off.
I don't know what could possibly be wrong? A rogue app? Something is just not right here.
PS-I'm rooted with Unrevoked and have Clockwork MOD recovery.
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screen off ma doesn't seem ridiculously high.
in my readings and experience (i am maintaining 6 evos between family and friends! ), poor battery life has usually been a result of leaving mobile data always on, a "rogue" app, bad rom flash and/or a kernel that doesn't play well with the phone. rogue app and kernels are usually the culprit though.
have you tried flashing a rom and not install any apps? that would help you determine if it was a rogue app.
to determine if it's the kernel, try a safe kernel like htc #17 which also idles great. the newer kernels are much more "selective" on which phone it will run properly on.
(i find your sig ironic)
Yeah, that's another thread about battery drain overnight. With some screenshots.
ROM is AOKP b23, kernel s Trinity (tuna).
Sometimes it's about 20%, sometimes only 10. And rebooting phone (maybe with wiping battery stats) just before the night is helpful - then I get about 4-6% drain in 8 hours sleep time. And the phone isn't awake at that time (as you may see on graph), it's deep sleeping.
As BetterBatteryStats and SystemPanel tell me, it's system processes that use much of the battery at that time - few 'kworker' ones. I've searched the forums for some time, but still can't find a good explanation why they drain so much, nor why rebooting helps.
1) change kernel - yeah, I know, I can try that, but with stock kernel I've had the same problem - so I try to find the root of it, not just slap a few different kernels and see which one works better.
2) reboot every time before sleep - well... that's just isn't very convenient and weak way to deal with the problem.
See attached screenshots for further info.
So, any clues about what I can do to improve the situation?
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Other than that, I couldn't find any relevant answers... perhaps a runaway system process... I'd recommend switching kernels, as this issue is known and yet unresolved. Seriously though, battery stats reports it using 56s, so is it really a major problem that is causing battery drain?
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Other than that, I couldn't find any relevant answers... perhaps a runaway system process... I'd recommend switching kernels, as this issue is known and yet unresolved. Seriously though, battery stats reports it using 56s, so is it really a major problem that is causing battery drain?
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I'd check that out, thanks! Yeah I know that it's a known problem, but still can't find any good solution for it...
Well it's the process that uses MOST of the system time during that period, so I guess it's enough to cause a drain. And also, there're multiple kworker processes - each may use a bit, but together they get enough for 10% overnight drain.
Which kernel would you recommend to try next? Franco? Seems pretty popular.
Edit: Seen both of these posts, no good solutions anyway. Will try another kernel, then!
I've had great results with Faux123 and I'm just now experimenting with LeanKernel, which is working well so far (wakelocks nonexistent).
I get the kworkers appearing in system panel too, but it doesnt actually effect my battery life. I lose 4% overnight but they show up in system panel.
Also their percentages never add up correctly. For example system panel shows maybe 1.3% cpu usage in total. But when i click thru to the system processes list, the sum of all kworkers exceed 1.3% by a good amount. So i always just ignore them.
Hmm... So maybe they aren't the root of the problem.
Anything else? Maybe battery need to be calibrated, like charging to 100, wiping stats, then discharging to 0 and again charge to 100?
What's really weird is that excessive drain occurs only with extended no-reboot period. Ie, If I reboot just before night drain will be 4-5%...
Check this out. Normally I get about 10% drain overnight, look at what happened last night..
Completely annihilated the battery, everything turned off.
Anyone have an explanation?
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The only thing I can think is that something I was doing when I used the phone before bed, kept some sort of process alive all night.
tixed said:
Yeah, that's another thread about battery drain overnight. With some screenshots.
ROM is AOKP b23, kernel s Trinity (tuna).
Sometimes it's about 20%, sometimes only 10. And rebooting phone (maybe with wiping battery stats) just before the night is helpful - then I get about 4-6% drain in 8 hours sleep time. And the phone isn't awake at that time (as you may see on graph), it's deep sleeping.
As BetterBatteryStats and SystemPanel tell me, it's system processes that use much of the battery at that time - few 'kworker' ones. I've searched the forums for some time, but still can't find a good explanation why they drain so much, nor why rebooting helps.
1) change kernel - yeah, I know, I can try that, but with stock kernel I've had the same problem - so I try to find the root of it, not just slap a few different kernels and see which one works better.
2) reboot every time before sleep - well... that's just isn't very convenient and weak way to deal with the problem.
See attached screenshots for further info.
So, any clues about what I can do to improve the situation?
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Try using the kernel in my signature. this is a proof of what it gave me.
slimldj said:
Try using the kernel in my signature. this is a proof of what it gave me.
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Great one! Less than 10% drain overnight, 30% per day with moderate-light usage
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Great one! Less than 10% drain overnight, 30% per day with moderate-light usage
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Awesome. Glad it worked.
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tixed said:
Yeah, that's another thread about battery drain overnight. With some screenshots.
ROM is AOKP b23, kernel s Trinity (tuna).
Sometimes it's about 20%, sometimes only 10. And rebooting phone (maybe with wiping battery stats) just before the night is helpful - then I get about 4-6% drain in 8 hours sleep time. And the phone isn't awake at that time (as you may see on graph), it's deep sleeping.
As BetterBatteryStats and SystemPanel tell me, it's system processes that use much of the battery at that time - few 'kworker' ones. I've searched the forums for some time, but still can't find a good explanation why they drain so much, nor why rebooting helps.
1) change kernel - yeah, I know, I can try that, but with stock kernel I've had the same problem - so I try to find the root of it, not just slap a few different kernels and see which one works better.
2) reboot every time before sleep - well... that's just isn't very convenient and weak way to deal with the problem.
See attached screenshots for further info.
So, any clues about what I can do to improve the situation?
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Sounds like you may be worrying about battery life too much. If this is worrying alot you may want to get an iphone. The 1750 mah battery is only rated at 10 hours. Lower your expectations about drainage per hour. The phone is constantly pinging cell phone towers to find the best signal possible even in deep sleep. That is the bulk of your drainage.
das7982 said:
Sounds like you may be worrying about battery life too much. If this is worrying alot you may want to get an iphone. The 1750 mah battery is only rated at 10 hours. Lower your expectations about drainage per hour. The phone is constantly pinging cell phone towers to find the best signal possible even in deep sleep. That is the bulk of your drainage.
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No thanks, iOS is too restricted for me, and I like Google hardware better (I mean revised by Google, not manufactured ofc)
Yeah, I know, but that's 10 hours of USAGE. And I was getting much differentiated results in the same conditions (like <10% one night, >30% other) - that's what was worrying me.
I don't expect it to last whole week or anything, but 30% of power lost in one night when it's just on the shelf doing nothing (not even connected to wifi) - that's absurd. About 5-10% is ok, I guess. That's what I was getting with my Transformer, anyway - less than 1% per hour in sleep mode with wifi off.
Exact same problem. I'm on imoseyon's kernel. If I reboot I lose about5% over night. If not, about 30+. Some app is waking some system process up that is chugging away with the CPU. If I lay it on my bed our some other insulating surface, it is warm. Yes, my phone is entering sleep mode, no app doing wake locks, just kworker going nuts.
I am using samsung galaxy s2 and i am getting the kworker battery bug too. about 15% overnight which sucks.
derycklong said:
I am using samsung galaxy s2 and i am getting the kworker battery bug too. about 15% overnight which sucks.
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Same happening here, but only after flashing the latest CM radio. I guess it might have something to do with that.
link i know it will help you,and let system go into sleep
hi guys, i visit the links posted but i'm still problems with that. Using watchdog app i notice that al least once a day it show me warning message about high use of cpu. In my case the process is kworker/u8: (here there's a number from 0 to 6)
My question is: what specific process causing that? There's a way to know it? I ask it because i don't think is battery releted, cause battery is very good, excluding for the monitor usage which is what consumes more...
I know that this is a really old topic but seeing that there's still at least one fresh enquiriy i thought i'd chime in...what in effect may indeed help you is wiping the cache (it did help me on several kworker/u occassions in the past). To do so you have to access the respective menu by booting your tablet while pressing the up volume rocker and the power button simultaneously. Hope this helps
All,
In case you haven't noticed, the battery life of the Nitro HD is kinda bad... Then, when you add ICS into the mix, it gets worse.
When i first flashed the Leaked ICS ROM, I noticed that I was only getting about 8 to 9 hours of battery life with very light use. So, I endeavored to find a way to extend that time without buying an expensive extended battery.
Here are my findings:
GPS
Settings > Location Services
Now we all like the convenience of being able to pull out our phone and find the nearest gas station or fine dining experience. But when you think about it, in our day to day lives, we don't need directions that much.
GPS and Location Services are huge data and energy hogs. If you have ever seen how much can go on in the background when it comes to Location Services, you would cringe. So, set up your GPS like the screenshot below and you will see a little battery life improvement and data usage go down.
Display Brightness
Settings > Display > Brightness
On my Nitro, the display uses up the most energy by far. So, it only makes sense to lower the brightness a bit to save power.
Developer Options
Settings > Developer Options
The Nitro has a powerful 1.5GHz CPU which uses a ton of energy when in heavy use. Some of you might say, "But Matt, I don't use that many apps that need the CPU." Well, it's not that you use them. It's that the ones you have used are likely still running. For example, even though I always use the 'Exit' menu item in Slacker Radio, it will always show up as a running process in Task Manager.
In the Developer Options, there are a few useful ways to fix this problem.
First, check the box next to 'Don't keep activities'. This will cause whatever app you are using to stop completely as soon as it is not on the screen anymore. This is useful if you have the habit of using the 'Home' button when you are done with apps.
Next, set the 'Background process limit' to something other than the standard limit. I have mine set to 4 processes. This will keep processes that are not tied to any specific app in check.
If you use a lot of apps and games that have to render video, it might be a good idea to check the 'Force GPU rendering' box. This will force apps such as games to use the slightly less powerful GPU in the Nitro for video. Thus letting your CPU relax a bit. I have also noticed that heat doesn't build up as much with this box checked.
Lastly, if you want to know about more of the processes that hang in the background that may cause performance issues, you can check the 'Show all ANRs' box. Personally, I found it annoying.
Power Saver
Settings > Power Saver
I was really excited for this feature but also very skeptical. But, I gave it a try anyway. What this feature does is when your battery level gets to a certain percent that you choose, it will turn off power consuming features and change some settings to use less power. I have mine set to engage at 20% battery life.
The tips I have seen say to check every box. But, because of my profession, I have to have 'Auto-sync' left on for emails and such.
With the settings below, I usually see the last 20% of battery last about 4 to 5 hours of medium use.
CPU Clock
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Unlike all the tips above, this one will require you to root your Nitro.
As I said before, the 1.5GHz CPU uses a ton of power. When you think about it, unless you are playing games all the time or doing some kind of complex calculation as part of your Quantum Physics experiment on you phone, you really don't need all that power. So, what I did was underclocked the CPU to 1GHZ. This gives me the power I need to do what I do but with more efficient energy consumption.
I used SetCPU for this but there are a few other choices out there that do the job just as good.
As you can see from the screenshot below, I have set the max frequency to 1026MHz and the min frequency to 384MHz (I have since set min to 192MHz). I set the governor to 'conservative' based on this post: LINK. But, I think that any of them will help in different ways.
If you are curious, I'm also inserting a screenshot of my benchmarks after the underclock.
CPU Sleep (Suggested by rani9990)
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XDA user rani9990 suggested an app called CPU Sleeper that, essentially, puts additional cores into an offline mode while the screen is off.
I can see how this would be advantageous because when your phone is in sleep mode, it really doesn't need all that extra power.
I have had it on my phone since i got up this morning and have noticed a significant jump in battery life already.
Results
Before these tips, I was getting about 8 to 9 hours of medium use on a charge.
After, I get roughly 15 to 20 hours of medium use. (It varies from day to day but hovers between 15 and 20.)
If anybody has any other tips, please let me know so I can add them to the list.
You should also tell people to get CPU sleeper (root) saves tons of battery life for me.
Also, disabling haptic feedback saves battery.
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! kick ass post!! well-done. fun read too.
thanks!!1
Sadly, battery life on this phone really sucks even with the optimizations. having compared both, I can say that the Nitro HD with optimizations and 3800 mAh Hyperion battery gets about the same battery life as a Galaxy Nexus on the stock ROM and stock battery.
996gt2 said:
Sadly, battery life on this phone really sucks even with the optimizations. having compared both, I can say that the Nitro HD with optimizations and 3800 mAh Hyperion battery gets about the same battery life as a Galaxy Nexus on the stock ROM and stock battery.
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Perhaps check your running processes. With these tweaks in place, I unplugged my Nitro at 7:45is this morning and right now, at 2:15pm, I have 79% battery left and I've made two 15 to 20 minute phone calls and rebooted about 6 times because of some testing I've been doing for another thread.
Also, the Nitro does have a faster CPU that would take more power than the Nexus.
I have done all of this, in addition to in Settings/Wireless & networks there's "more..." click that and theres "Mobile networks".. and the option for "Use only 2g networks" I'm using that for only texting while at work and doing pretty decent with battery life. since 5:45 to now 10AM texting all throughout that time I'm at 85% battery.
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I have done all of this, in addition to in Settings/Wireless & networks there's "more..." click that and theres "Mobile networks".. and the option for "Use only 2g networks" I'm using that for only texting while at work and doing pretty decent with battery life. since 5:45 to now 10AM texting all throughout that time I'm at 85% battery.
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I actually don't have that option.
mattman86 said:
I actually don't have that option.
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Uhmm.. maybe its a CM9 only feature.. sorry hijacking then.
i found many of these settings are available in cm9 and after making the changes, it appears to me they work very well. thanks again eh.
UPDATE: I refrained from plugging in my phone all day yesterday and got 14 hours and 32 minutes of medium to heavy use.
Sent/Recieved 191 text messages.
Spent 2 hours and 47 minutes on the phone.
Updated 7 apps from the Play Store.
Played Dead Space for roughly 35 minutes.
Checked Facebook 3 or 4 times.
Read a news article online.
I think the battery did pretty good this time around.
Thanks for helpful tips!
The only problem I got is that the screen turned to back (with music still on) when I started NinjaJump with "Force GPU rendering'" checked.
You don't want force GPU rendering checked...
mattman86 said:
Display Brightness
Settings > Display > Brightness
On my Nitro, the display uses up the most energy by far. So, it only makes sense to lower the brightness a bit to save power
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What I`ve noticed is that when I set Brightness to 100% I have 3...3,5 hours of wake working screen active time before battery exhausted. It's on ICS leak V18F. But if I set brightness to 30% or "auto" mode I got about 2....2,5max hours of screen active, it exhausts quicker
And secondly, on CM9 it helps me to check off "surface dithering" in 'performance' options. But on official ROMs we haven't this option available to tweak
I found that JuiceDefender has seriously saved me a whole lotta battery. Like seriously. I was getting 12 hours of medium to heavy usage before, and now i can hit 30 hours of medium usage. Then again, Data isn't turned on for me, I use the phone for Wifi and Calling.
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I found that JuiceDefender has seriously saved me a whole lotta battery. Like seriously. I was getting 12 hours of medium to heavy usage before, and now i can hit 30 hours of medium usage. Then again, Data isn't turned on for me, I use the phone for Wifi and Calling.
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JuiceDefender saved me tons of battery also. But I noticed that it was always waking my phone up for a second at random times. Have you had that issue at all?
mattman86 said:
JuiceDefender saved me tons of battery also. But I noticed that it was always waking my phone up for a second at random times. Have you had that issue at all?
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Nope, but I don't look at my phone every waking second. Maybe it did do it. But I'm getting a serious boost in battery life so I don't really care.
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For me keeping the wifi on (and thus connecting via wifi both at home and in the office) allows me to save battery..
To me it seems strange, because my old phone literally sucked battery while keeping wifi on, but on the nitro wifi consumes less than hsdpa data transfer.
I've added a link to my SetCPU Profiles file in the guide.
low antutu battery benchmark scores
Both stock and CM9 RC2 are disappointing: 250 and 328 respectively. I've applied the suggestions here and don't know if I'm doing something wrong.
I was rather happy with my phone with GB managed by Battery Defender from Infolife. I used to have 1,5 day with "Mostly Idle" usage. Now after upgrade to ICS I just got 10% down per hour on idle. So disappointed. I'll play with your settings a while. May be Battery Defender uninstall/reinstall can help too...
Hello there,
I found a solution to the wake up lag, I tried everything before but nothing did the work. Its an app called wakelock, so far so good, batter drain is not that big, about 8% in 8 hours idle, I can live with that. I'm worried if there's a side effect to this? being the cpu constantly on, will this shorten its lifetime? Thanks.
Going from the name of the app and a quick peek, what it does is use a wakelock(!) to prevent the phone going to deep sleep. My guess is it will shorten battery life by around 20%, but I can't see how it should do any damage to the cpu.
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It's not an amazing solution tbh, as it's keeping your CPU awake all the time. If the CPU doesn't enter deep sleep, there is no wake-up lag.
I don't imagine you'd immediately notice any major issues with it, but longer term nobody can really say - I don't think you will have a problem in a normal period of usage of the CPU such as a year or two. But at the end of the day, any time you change things like this, there's a risk, regardless of how small.
First, I apologize to veterans who already know this......but posts about battery problems are all over our forum section.
So.....2 things I personally think work best to solve battery draining issues.
1. GSAM from playstore. It will tell you what apps are draining your battery...the top of the app list will be your main culprits. Then you need to find out why? You can check what apps are waking your phone and for how long. Gsam can tell you a lot if you play around with it and see what it can show you.
2. Cpuspy, also from play store. A simple yet easy way to see if your phone is deep sleeping. Deep sleep should pretty much be your total up time....minus screen on time. Roughly. If it isn't, or you have no deep sleep time.....back to gsam to find out why.
Once you narrow down the app culprits ....then you can search on why.
One last huge thing I personally have done for a long time now....reboot after you unplug from charger. Every single time. This used to be a fix for not getting deep sleep....and I think it still is a good practice.
That's it. 2 apps and you can post your battery draining questions with a lot more info than simply saying..."hey....my battery life sucks."
Cause 9.5 times out of 10.....it has nothing to do with the rom you are using. Usually anyway.
Good luck!!!
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A couple other things.
Comparing our total battery time with each other is pointless and meaningless. You can drain your phone from 100 to zero in 3 hours playing certain games, or it can last 30 hours cause you barely touched it. The only reasonable comparison is screen on time. Period. Tho it can alter greatly as well. 2 hours screen time on a 3d game, or 5 hours watching movies. 3 1/2 mostly texting and browsing......but still, its a better way to compare.
Gps is a battery destroyer. Some people leave it on...and certain apps will use it whenever you open them.
Screen brightness is a huge factor.
Task killers usually do more harm than good. Personally I only use greenify, and only for apps I know drain batteries a lot. Like maps. If maps is part of the rom....I convert it to a user app with titanium backup and greenify it. Canada's weather network app is a battery hog. Greenify. Basically anything that tops my list with more than 10 percent in gsam gets greenified. My wife used to use Facebook app....I got her using the browser. The app sucked her battery and data sometimes. No....no notification now, but she's on it a lot....her eyeballs are her notification.
Juice defender....great for very light users....a battery waster for medium to heavy users. Turning wifi and data on and off 200 times a day will kill more battery than it saves. Ever see the amount of times juice defender wakes your phone? LOL. I got as high as 1000 before I deleted it. Gsam told me that!
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K....not tooting my own horn....but looking thru threads tells me this really needs a bump!!! LOL
So, bump.
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2. A simple yet easy way to see if your phone is deep sleeping. Deep sleep should pretty much be your total up time....minus screen on time. Roughly. If it isn't, or you have no deep sleep time.....back to gsam to find out why.
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Thanks for this. The thread is a great set of tips and much appreciated by a noob like me.
You mentioned TWO apps. One was gsam. I assume the other was related to #2, deep sleeping. But, I didn't see the name of the second app. What was that? Or, did I misunderstand?
Kallen said:
Thanks for this. The thread is a great set of tips and much appreciated by a noob like me.
You mentioned TWO apps. One was gsam. I assume the other was related to #2, deep sleeping. But, I didn't see the name of the second app. What was that? Or, did I misunderstand?
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You are right! LOL
Fixed. It was cpuspy.
Battery problems? No matter the rom or android version.... >>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461864
This is what I do l.. except I then noticed gsam eats battery.
So after the drain findings with gsam I delete it. Then battery is great for me. Good info brotha
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Screenshots from today....got to 3 percent then plugged it in.
Gsam resets when you unplug it, but statistics stop when you plug it in....for any doubters.
Yes....6+ hours only on charge, but with almost constant use this morning. Peek at the screen on time tho.
Do you feel the paid version of gsam is worth the buy? Or, is the free version sufficient?
EDIT: Sorry. Should have read further down the GPLAY description. It appears the pro version primarily just adds better tablet support.
Kallen said:
Do you feel the paid version of gsam is worth the buy? Or, is the free version sufficient?
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Personally the paid version seems to really offer nothing useful....but for less than 2 bucks....maybe a nice gesture to support the dev. Tho really, a few more nice options and I'd pay for sure!
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kj2112 said:
2. Cpuspy, also from play store. A simple yet easy way to see if your phone is deep sleeping. Deep sleep should pretty much be your total up time....minus screen on time. Roughly. If it isn't, or you have no deep sleep time.....back to gsam to find out why.
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I'm seeing several CPU Spy apps, which one are you recommending?
CPU Spy by Brnadon Volosek
CPU Spy by Klakocar Mario
(similar names)
CPU Spy Plus by Giuseppe Baglio
CPU Spy Reborn by Mirko Dimartino
Rushing said:
This is what I do l.. except I then noticed gsam eats battery.
So after the drain findings with gsam I delete it. Then battery is great for me. Good info brotha
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Definitely a good way to go....keep gsam backup in titanium backup....restore it if you have an issue, then freeze or uninstall it again!
I don't mind the drain and run it 24/7 in case I get the odd issue....like phone process getting stuck in memory after a call. Happens now and then to me....my battery will plummet like 20 percent in a couple hours....I click gsam....see it, force close phone and all is well again. Gotta get thru my 10 hour work day!!! Lol
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Kallen said:
I'm seeing several CPU Spy apps, which one are you recommending?
CPU Spy by Brnadon Volosek
CPU Spy by Klakocar Mario
(similar names)
CPU Spy Plus by Giuseppe Baglio
CPU Spy Reborn by Mirko Dimartino
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I use the Brandon one. Very simple app....just shows cpu speeds used. Resets upon reboot....or manually. I always reboot after I charge....so it starts fresh.
Battery problems? No matter the rom or android version.... >>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461864
To be honest, I gotten quite tired looking at the battery percentage. It always gets me SO MAD when I see it start going down from 100 to 90 in a matter of seconds, but the battery icon looks the same. I know it's a placebo effect to turn off the percentage, but it helps to some degree if you're constantly worried about your battery lasting long, like me!
DJ Scooby Doo said:
To be honest, I gotten quite tired looking at the battery percentage. It always gets me SO MAD when I see it start going down from 100 to 90 in a matter of seconds, but the battery icon looks the same. I know it's a placebo effect to turn off the percentage, but it helps to some degree if you're constantly worried about your battery lasting long, like me!
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Do the above and you'll know if you're getting normal battery life....or something is going on.
What's your normal screen on time? Average daily use, I'd say 3 to 4 hours is normal. Again....depending what you're up to.
If I didn't rely on my tough bulky case....I'd have and extended battery for sure! Lol
Battery problems? No matter the rom or android version.... >>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461864
kj2112 said:
Do the above and you'll know if you're getting normal battery life....or something is going on.
What's your normal screen on time? Average daily use, I'd say 3 to 4 hours is normal. Again....depending what you're up to.
If I didn't rely on my tough bulky case....I'd have and extended battery for sure! Lol
Battery problems? No matter the rom or android version.... >>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461864
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I know I'm going to have to replace the battery. Just waiting on when I get paid, lelel. This battery I assume is 2 years old, and I'm getting me a fresh Anker battery. If any of you guys tried a different battery and it works better than Anker, let me know! I don't need NFC though.
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I know I'm going to have to replace the battery. Just waiting on when I get paid, lelel. This battery I assume is 2 years old, and I'm getting me a fresh Anker battery. If any of you guys tried a different battery and it works better than Anker, let me know! I don't need NFC though.
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Yeah....wish I could have an extended battery....but I'm in construction. Without my bulky case and hard holster....my phone would have been buried many many times. Lol
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DJ Scooby Doo said:
To be honest, I gotten quite tired looking at the battery percentage. It always gets me SO MAD when I see it start going down from 100 to 90 in a matter of seconds, but the battery icon looks the same. I know it's a placebo effect to turn off the percentage, but it helps to some degree if you're constantly worried about your battery lasting long, like me!
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I do the samething lol
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kj2112 said:
First, I apologize to veterans who already know this......but posts about battery problems are all over our forum section.
So.....2 things I personally think work best to solve battery draining issues.
1. GSAM from playstore. It will tell you what apps are draining your battery...the top of the app list will be your main culprits. Then you need to find out why? You can check what apps are waking your phone and for how long. Gsam can tell you a lot if you play around with it and see what it can show you.
2. Cpuspy, also from play store. A simple yet easy way to see if your phone is deep sleeping. Deep sleep should pretty much be your total up time....minus screen on time. Roughly. If it isn't, or you have no deep sleep time.....back to gsam to find out why.
Once you narrow down the app culprits ....then you can search on why.
One last huge thing I personally have done for a long time now....reboot after you unplug from charger. Every single time. This used to be a fix for not getting deep sleep....and I think it still is a good practice.
That's it. 2 apps and you can post your battery draining questions with a lot more info than simply saying..."hey....my battery life sucks."
Cause 9.5 times out of 10.....it has nothing to do with the rom you are using. Usually anyway.
Good luck!!!
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Good post dude:highfive:
I'm staying on ICS, this battery life is ridiculous. Jelly Bean was draining my battery, but ICS looks solid af. I can't wait to see how it's going to look like with an Anker battery.
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DJ Scooby Doo said:
I'm staying on ICS, this battery life is ridiculous. Jelly Bean was draining my battery, but ICS looks solid af. I can't wait to see how it's going to look like with an Anker battery.
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I'm curious how much screen time you get on a full cycle?? I don't remember. On almost any JB version or rom, I usually get 3 to 4 1/2 hours screen time.
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kj2112 said:
I'm curious how much screen time you get on a full cycle?? I don't remember. On almost any JB version or rom, I usually get 3 to 4 1/2 hours screen time.
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Honestly, I don't touch my phone much at school. Teachers and Deans are more vigilant this year so less texting for me. :/ On a full cycle, I'd say around an hour and a half or 2 hours. If stock had the ability to use the volume keys as track forward and back, it'd be less. That's what I miss from AOSP.
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