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Best way to get ROOT and keep stock kernel?

Hey guys. I actually don't even have this phone yet but will be getting it shortly. I definitely want to root it (I have a rooted EVO 4G and Xoom tablet) I'm a little confused though about the different methods I'm seeing.
My goal is to obtain a fully rooted phone w/ stock everything. What is the best method to do this?

ODIN this and you will get CWM, root, Ive found the LOStkernel to be a lot better than stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348

Smoked600 said:
ODIN this and you will get CWM, root, Ive found the LOStkernel to be a lot better than stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348
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Sorry for the noob question but when I watch Qbking's video on this kernel he says you need to be rooted and have CWM installed to flash the kernel. But what you're saying is this kernel can provide root, add CWM and flash the kernel if you use Odin to do it? If so, I'm right in saying I'd want to download the TAR file rather than the ZIP? For root, would I need to flash SuperUser via CWM or is it built into the kernel?
I've been thinking about jumping into root soon to try out the Starburst ROM and I've evaluating the cleanest way to gain Root + CWM. I was thinking about using Bubby's method, but this seems solid too if my assumptions above are correct. This would be my first Android root by the way so I'm being patient and extra careful.

I just got this phone recently and rooted it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268548
thats a really good place to start. but to be honest every time you use odin and you flash a kernal in odin you'll get an annoying Yellow triangle that pops up in the beggining. So Your best bet is to flash to a kernal to gain root then flash the kernal from the unroot tutorial as if your unrooting the phone it wont remove superuser.apk automatically, and it will remove the yellow triangle, then from that point just use either cwm or the zimage flasher from adb to do it.
My recommended steps are
this one first for gaining root
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kExN-Y2pfxA
then this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySskTt-S-cM
Follow links in youtube description.
after you do that, don't use odin anymore just use cwm and that adb script for changing kernals and you'll never get that annoying triangle again.
Also be aware that everytime you flash with odin the phones bootloader records that you flashed it, meaning even if you take it back to stock if sprint wants to look at it for warranty purposes they can still see that you did something to it. which means that youll need a $2 jig to wipe that count which I don't even know where that is.
If you can use a temp root thats used for 2.3 gingerbread on other devices then use second link in youtube to avoid using odin, I kinda wished I knew before because then I would have done some more experimenting with the phone. so annoying, I have control of this device and at the same time not which really sucks!
Edit BTW: Why use the starburst rom it doesnt really look that snazy to me for me to consider jumping to it the stock one works great why not just flash a deodex stock one and flash a theme to it, theres some really sick themes in the theme section of xda check it out! XD

Smoked600 said:
ODIN this and you will get CWM, root, Ive found the LOStkernel to be a lot better than stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348
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I had some wake lag (about 2 second delay between pressing the power button and screen turning on) with the LoStKernel, so I've been running this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284511
It's been working well for me so far. You'll have to get root access first, so try out the LoStKernel to gain root access and if you don't like it switch to this.

[HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter [SPR L710VPBLJ7] JB 4.1.1

This is a completely stock ODIN flashable ROM with root injected into the system image. The latest image is based off of the official Kies SPR L710VPBLJ7 release which is the first official JB release on this phone.
This is a fairly easy way to get root WITHOUT tripping the flash counter that will void the warranty. If you don't care about tripping the counter then you can get root other ways.
You can get ODIN here
and the drivers for the SPH-L710 so ODIN can detect your phone can be found at Samsung's site. Click on the Manuals & Downloads tab at the bottom and then on Software for the latest driver.
First download the stock odin tar that has a rooted system image injected into it:
SPR Image (JB 4.1.1)
Perm Mirror 1: Download - root66_SPR_L710VPBLJ7.7z
SPR Image (ICS 4.0.4)
Perm Mirror 1: Download - L710VPALI3
Old SPR Image (ICS 4.0.4)
Perm Mirror 1: Download - L710VPALEN
Second,
Extract the root66_SPR_L710VPALI3.tar from the .7z file you downloaded.
Put phone into download mode [ with phone off, hold vol. down + home + power ], connect to computer and open Odin.
once in odin click the PDA field and select the root66_SPR_L710VPALEN.tar you downloaded.
Leave Auto Reboot and F. Reset Time checked.
click start and
when done let phone reboot.
If you have issues flashing with Odin please ensure you are using the microusb cable that came with the phone, users have had issues using other cables.
If you just want a stock, rooted phone with no custom recovery, no plans to flash custom roms, etc. then you can stop HERE.
Third, (optional) - on a Jelly Bean release, loading a non-stock recovery will trip your flash counter.
If you want to get clockworkmod recovery loaded so you can flash whatever you want, nandroid, etc then continue on....
Once rebooted you can essentially follow this thread to load the clockworkmod recovery but make sure you use METHOD 1 or you will trip the counter. As long as you flash the recovery using the dd method with adb (or use terminal emulator from the play store) then you will NOT trip the flash counter. If you use ODIN to flash a custom recovery you will trip the counter.
The standard CWM recovery is here and the touch recovery is here.
If you've made it this far with a stock, rooted phone with cwm and you don't want to flash a custom rom (which will do its own de-bloating) you can check out my Aroma installer based De-bloater to easily get rid of bloat system apps you no longer want to see. Simply flash in CWM like anything else and you will be presented with a menu system to choose what to remove. If you are unsure it is safe to pick Recommended and a decent de-bloat.
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OTA Updates
I understand on Sprint there are OTA updates available. If you use this root method and want to move to an OTA update you basically have two options.
1. After using this method you can grab voodoo OTA rootkeeper from the play store and apply the update straight as it is from OTA. The rootkeeper app should keep root for you after the update is applied.
2. Find someone who made a CWM flashable update, potentially with certain pieces removed and simply flash it in CWM.
Thanks
To get the injected root system image I followed pieces of
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27801304&postcount=1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22798858&postcount=32
so thanks to those guys. Neither of those worked out of the box needed a bit of tweaking.

OK...any one willing to take the leap and see? :victory::cyclops:

Naddict said:
OK...any one willing to take the leap and see? :victory::cyclops:
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No leap needed. it'll work.

Does this wipe data?
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Thanks! Been waiting for these to show up for the SGS3! They were priceless on the SGS II Epic 4G Touch.
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crawrj said:
Does this wipe data?
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Since the original .tar file didn't wipe data, I'll go out on a limb and say this doesn't either. However, if you're restoring your home .tar file for warranty purposes I'd suggest performing a full wipe in CWM prior to flashing this in Odin, or Mobile Odin.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

Correct. It will not wipe data. You may want to depending on your needs.

so not to sound stupid, but after doing this method and getting root and CWM, then we can flash anything in cwm without tripping the counter correct?

robl45 said:
so not to sound stupid, but after doing this method and getting root and CWM, then we can flash anything in cwm without tripping the counter correct?
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correct.

robl45 said:
so not to sound stupid, but after doing this method and getting root and CWM, then we can flash anything in cwm without tripping the counter correct?
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That's what I'm wondering. Anyhoo, is there any basis to state that the tripping the flash counter will void the warranty or is that just a wild assumption?

Just to be sure, at this time there is no method of resetting the trip counter, so those that already rooted need to wait for a way to reset the counter and then will be able to use this method if they're so inclined... Is my understanding correct?
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mlin said:
That's what I'm wondering. Anyhoo, is there any basis to state that the tripping the flash counter will void the warranty or is that just a wild assumption?
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haha, wild assumption? The counter isn't there because people like counting. Samsung has made it incrementally harder with each gen of device to reset that counter. They provide that so the carriers and themselves CAN void your warranty as they have proof that you have flashed something that wasn't stock.
Now notice the CAN word up above. That doesn't mean they WILL void your warranty. I know for a fact I've seen friends denied service from ATT for having that counter tripped. From what I've read on these forums, it seems ATT would be one of the more strict carriers and Sprint the least. I think I read yesterday that Sprint won't really care. I have no personal experience regarding that however and they can change their stance when they like.
If you haven't tripped your counter, this is as easy a root method as any other, you are just flashing something in Odin. So if you want to ensure you are warranty covered why not use this?

mrRobinson said:
haha, wild assumption? The counter isn't there because people like counting. Samsung has made it incrementally harder with each gen of device to reset that counter. They provide that so the carriers and themselves CAN void your warranty as they have proof that you have flashed something that wasn't stock.
Now notice the CAN word up above. That doesn't mean they WILL void your warranty. I know for a fact I've seen friends denied service from ATT for having that counter tripped. From what I've read on these forums, it seems ATT would be one of the more strict carriers and Sprint the least. I think I read yesterday that Sprint won't really care. I have no personal experience regarding that however and they can change their stance when they like.
If you haven't tripped your counter, this is as easy a root method as any other, you are just flashing something in Odin. So if you want to ensure you are warranty covered why not use this?
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Gotcha, thanks for the break down. At this point I've already rooted and as a Sprint customer I'm not worried about it. Sprint's policy is to handle rooted phones the same way they handle completely stock phones. I've had rooted phones running obvious custom ROMs serviced and exchanged for warranty type issues. Anyhoo, thanks for posting!
LOL, just chatted with Samsung. Apparently they will still handle all warranty issues under warranty but will charge to reflash the phone.

mrRobinson said:
Correct. It will not wipe data. You may want to depending on your needs.
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Thanks it was for a friend just needed root.

so to go back to completely stock, you would flash a stock tar in odin and that wouldn't trip the counter either?

robl45 said:
so to go back to completely stock, you would flash a stock tar in odin and that wouldn't trip the counter either?
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Correct. Anything that is a stock Samsung provided file(or phone thinks it is Samsung provided file) will not trip the counter.

Thanks! This will come in handy if the wife ever lets me root her phone lol
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You Sir have made my day exactly what I was waiting for.

I've read in some threads that flashing completely to stock will reset the flash counter, can someone please confirm or refute this for me?

elfhater said:
I've read in some threads that flashing completely to stock will reset the flash counter, can someone please confirm or refute this for me?
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No it does not.

Rooting a E4GT (SPH-D710) from Sprint

There is almost too much information on this forum!
All I would like to do is root my (wife's) phone in order to remove bloatware and install Ad Blocker, ideally without losing personal data. The phone's firmware was updated to FH13 yesterday using Kies and I am comfortable using Odin.
I read the entirety of this post, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1835033, along with several of the linked posts, and am still a bit confused. The OC upgrades are rather large and do not seem necessary since I am already running FH13. I downloaded the [ODIN] FH13 Kernel TAR.MD5, and can easily install this, but is there anything else I need in order to have root after installing this kernel?
Thank you.

Welcome to the E4GT.
Never too much information.
If as you've said you've already rooted the phone to FH13 and you are comfortable using Odin (I am hoping you mean you understand where to place the proper files and not just the 'one-clicks' - placing an update/tar/pit file in the wrong slot WILL kill your phone) you should probably grab Agat's latest safe kernel 5.4 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421
Grab the tar and use Odin. Then you'll have a stock rooted phone with a safe kernel with recovery (CWM)
Seriously though taking a little time reading the stickies and how-tos will provide you with loads of information that can/will keep you from bricking your phone and save even more time being frustrated. Along with the added benefit of not being the one who killed your wife's phone.
Do you wife's phone right; have it all just work and be bullet proof and you'll be a hero. Kill it and you'll probably never hear the end of it.
Good luck.

leaderbuilder,
Thanks for taking time to reply.
To be clear, I have not yet rooted the phone - that is what I am trying to accomplish. I downloaded the kernel you referenced and loaded it using Odin. Upon reboot, I saw the yellow diamond with the exclamation point. Once the phone was up-and-running, I tried Root Checker and it indicated that the phone was not rooted. What step did I miss?
Thanks.

You have a couple of choices from the point at which you are at.
You can get the supersu zip, and flash in the phones recovery to root. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28086976
From here, you'll need to get triangle away and use to reset the flash count and clear the triangle.
You can also go ahead and use the rooted no data one click that you saw but didn't want to use to root, then use triangle away. But then you'll lose the recovery you just did and you'll have to do again.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2

MoHoGalore,
I was just reading another post in which you were helping a novice like me.
I removed the triangle by reverting to a stock kernel - so i am back where I started. What i don't understand is this: The kernel is ~8 MB, but the one-click download is ~285 MB. Since rooting seems to be related to a small (?) change in the kernel, and since the phone is already running FH13, what else is included in the OC that is being installed to the phone?

groston said:
MoHoGalore,
I was just reading another post in which you were helping a novice like me.
I removed the triangle by reverting to a stock kernel - so i am back where I started. What i don't understand is this: The kernel is ~8 MB, but the one-click download is ~285 MB. Since rooting seems to be related to a small (?) change in the kernel, and since the phone is already running FH13, what else is included in the OC that is being installed to the phone?
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Howdy - and well, you have removed the triangle but you may not have reset the binary counter.. more on that in a min..
And having a custom kernel doesn't mean you're rooted. A custom kernel is a tool for rooted rom's. That is what a one click can do for you, or you can do, with that first step you took.. (And the one click is the "core" of the build that you're replacing, that is rooted. If that makes sense.)
So, here's a few line ups that I would do if I were you;
1. Odin a rooted rom tar (Crawrj has these avalible in current updates) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1844109 check out the first few posts, tells you all you need to do this. (The link is FH13. FH23 is said to be a dev build and has issues that are, well, going to be there..)
2.Odin a custom kernel (Which you did, and I guess now you're back stock) I had to change the order as I first posted. The rom tar will place stock recovery/kernel back. So you want to odin the custom kernel after the rom.
Or
1. Odin custom kernel. (Which you did, and I guess now you're back stock)
2. Using either superuser or supersu, root your rom (There are flash-able zips and tars for Odin)
3. Using triangle away, clear the triangle and reset binary counter.
Or
1. Get Garwynns One click no data and complete the operation in a few steps. (You can find that in RWilco's thread in post #2 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1835033)
At the point that you do get rooted, and your on ICS, you need to run triangle away and confirm binary flash count if you ever want to send your phone in for service and want it not to show you flashed anything.. Just my suggestion.

[Q] How to root

Hi guys, I just got a galaxy s4 for t mobile and it came with 4.2.2 version of android. I'm scared to brick the phone but I really want to root it. Can someone point me to the right direction? Been reading some tutorials but they are for different versions of android. How do I root my phone without bricking it or tripping Knox?

itsfredo said:
Hi guys, I just got a galaxy s4 for t mobile and it came with 4.2.2 version of android. I'm scared to brick the phone but I really want to root it. Can someone point me to the right direction? Been reading some tutorials but they are for different versions of android. How do I root my phone without bricking it or tripping Knox?
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4.2.2 doesnt have Knox. Use CF-Auto Root by Chainfire to root.

The Sickness said:
4.2.2 doesnt have Knox. Use CF-Auto Root by Chainfire to root.
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Thanks! Now it seems that cf auto root comes with a stock kernel and recovery. Is this changeable? Can I install a custom recovery and kernel after using cf auto root? Or should I find a different method of rooting for this? Are there any safe ones out there. It seems that a lot is outdated and I'm afraid of installing the wrong thing.

itsfredo said:
Thanks! Now it seems that cf auto root comes with a stock kernel and recovery. Is this changeable? Can I install a custom recovery and kernel after using cf auto root? Or should I find a different method of rooting for this? Are there any safe ones out there. It seems that a lot is outdated and I'm afraid of installing the wrong thing.
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I don't know if towelroot will root 4.2.2, but it doesn't install a recovery.
Rob

itsfredo said:
Thanks! Now it seems that cf auto root comes with a stock kernel and recovery. Is this changeable? Can I install a custom recovery and kernel after using cf auto root? Or should I find a different method of rooting for this? Are there any safe ones out there. It seems that a lot is outdated and I'm afraid of installing the wrong thing.
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You're calling a rooting method outdated while using the exact "outdated" software it was meant to root in the first place. CF-autoroot is as safe as safe can be. In fact, I know it still works for 4.3 and I THINK 4.4.2; it just trips the KNOX counter on them... still gets the job done though.
As far as your concern of installing the recovery; it first flashes its own recovery so it can use an exploit, then reverts it back to stock. I believe the kernel is untouched.
If your end goal is to move on to custom recoveries and custom ROMs you can bypass the rooting process altogether and go straight for the recovery/ROM.

lordcheeto03 said:
You're calling a rooting method outdated while using the exact "outdated" software it was meant to root in the first place. CF-autoroot is as safe as safe can be. In fact, I know it still works for 4.3 and I THINK 4.4.2; it just trips the KNOX counter on them... still gets the job done though.
As far as your concern of installing the recovery; it first flashes its own recovery so it can use an exploit, then reverts it back to stock. I believe the kernel is untouched.
If your end goal is to move on to custom recoveries and custom ROMs you can bypass the rooting process altogether and go straight for the recovery/ROM.
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This.
You really don't need CF Auto Root at all until all you want to do is root the stock rom.
If you want to install a customer rom, use Odin to install a custom recovery and flash whatever you want from there.

lordcheeto03 said:
If your end goal is to move on to custom recoveries and custom ROMs you can bypass the rooting process altogether and go straight for the recovery/ROM.
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That's precisely my end goal. And I guess my question is how to do this safely with the Android version I have.
I didn't mean the root method was outdated; I was talking about some of the information that's on the general forum regarding root. There is even a post on one of the stickies asking for updated info in May. This scares me because for all I know I can follow one of these methods to root or install a custom recovery/rom and end up with a brick because something is no longer compatible.
I guess my question is: what is the best (updated) method of installing a custom rom/recovery for my tmobile s4 with android 4.2.2?

Use cf autoroot and flash clockworkmod through Odin. Download rommanager. Download a rom. Hit install rom from SD card. Pick your ROM from downloads.

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That's precisely my end goal. And I guess my question is how to do this safely with the Android version I have.
I didn't mean the root method was outdated; I was talking about some of the information that's on the general forum regarding root. There is even a post on one of the stickies asking for updated info in May. This scares me because for all I know I can follow one of these methods to root or install a custom recovery/rom and end up with a brick because something is no longer compatible.
I guess my question is: what is the best (updated) method of installing a custom rom/recovery for my tmobile s4 with android 4.2.2?
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I understand your apprehension, i really do. What I've said to do has worked for me when i got the phone over a year ago, and has worked here recently when i did it again. I'm trying to tell you there is no need for an updated way of doing what you want. If you want root, use CFauto root. Like i said, that method was done specifically for MDB and MDL firmwares, there is no better choice. Newer yeah, but better? Not a chance. Your firmware is equally outdated and it's worked for millions of users without fail.
As far as a custom ROM goes, find one you want to use, put it on your SD card, pick a recovery (CWM, Philz, or TWRP), flash that in Odin, boot to recovery (power+volume up) , do a full wipe (system, data, and cache) select the ROM, and flash. No need to root at all if you want to go straight to a custom ROM.
EDIT: Obviously, you might want to perform a nandroid backup once you flash your recovery... but that's really optional as long as you have the stock Odin-flashable firmware. Totally up to you.
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Knox on hold?

I just got the note. Love the hardware but the software is pissing me off. I was waiting to root until I get the lollipop but I can't handle the lack of control and all the advertisements. I gave my S4 to my son and it is still running better than this new machine that should be a Monster.
So... Can I root without a custom recovery? If so what can I do about the knox before it unroots. If it's disabled or gone will I still get my 5.0?
More preferably can I get the stock recovery so I can get a copy of the 4.4.4 before it upgrades?

You can root stock without custom recovery but you'd need custom recovery for a nandroid backup or custom ROM or kernel.
Chain Fire auto root will disable Knox enough for root and Knox would not disable root. It's an Odin tar flash so no custom recovery required for root.
As far as upgrading, you'd have to fully un-root for OTA upgrade but there's always Kies or Odin for updates which would mean rooting again. As far as having a stock backup, the stock NK2 tar is available for download both in the Sprint Note 4 XDA forum and sammobile.com or even Kies. Voiding the warranty with Knox trip and risking root are the only true risks to consider. I'd suggest having the tools you need in a folder before you begin. CF auto root includes Odin; have a backup of NK2 stock tar and TWRP in case you need them. It wouldn't hurt to also have a custom ROM on hand to flash if you run into root issues.

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You can root stock without custom recovery but you'd need custom recovery for a nandroid backup or custom ROM or kernel.
Chain Fire auto root will disable Knox enough for root and Knox would not disable root. It's an Odin tar flash so no custom recovery required for root.
As far as upgrading, you'd have to fully un-root for OTA upgrade but there's always Kies or Odin for updates which would mean rooting again. As far as having a stock backup, the stock NK2 tar is available for download both in the Sprint Note 4 XDA forum and sammobile.com or even Kies. Voiding the warranty with Knox trip and risking root are the only true risks to consider. I'd suggest having the tools you need in a folder before you begin. CF auto root includes Odin; have a backup of NK2 stock tar and TWRP in case you need them. It wouldn't hurt to also have a custom ROM on hand to flash if you run into root issues.
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Sprint's OTA is disabled with root or with out Knox. I rooted my daughter's S3 a week ago. Just used Odin to TWRP and flashed superuser. Chains asked if he could fight back and I said no. within 12 hrs Sprint sent an update and on reboot it was full un root. I was hoping if I was able to just put Superuser in that things would be manageable until I get 5.0.
If you have the stuff to unroot that would be awesome. It's impossible to say when I'll get the update. I can't get KIES to work on stock devices much less anything with root. Sprint doesn't use a serial number that samsung recognizes for a push. Does a Knox trip really void the Warranty if the phone is broken?

Root/Knox trip voids warranty as far as Samsung is concerned. Sprint and other extended warranties may not check but it's a warning that gets reiterated often for non liability reasons.
Odin the stock tar is only true un-root method that should work to restore OTA updates but also Odin the lollipop stock tar, when available, would be an option many rooted users would choose.

When I say root with stock ROM I don't mean install a ROM. I just want to have root control over apps. If I can just get super user unstalled things would be great. I"m lost where it comes to the knox though. and there seems to be a whole lot of it on this ROM. Can knox be disabled with out a trip. I know it can on the S4 and earlier. I just sent TWRp in with ODIN 3 or 4 times in a row then booted straight to recovery flashed superuser then as soon as it booted back in into Andoid I gave superuser permission to jump on knox.
I downloaded an app that says it can make ADB work with out root. But I can't get it to work on my pc

Knox trips now; no way known to undo that.
The stock kernel blocks ADB access. I haven't tried it but I thought I had read that ADB will work if phone is in recovery. Don't hold me to it.
Edit: reading your earlier post about Knox undoing root for OTA if flashing superuser and keeping Knox enabled, many rooted users found that they could un-root and download the NK2 update but it wouldn't flash due to "modified" system. I think Knox is evolving more complex in Note 4. Your method may be simpler but may not work as intended to OTA to lollipop. Odin is the method you'd have to be comfortable with before rooting.

samep said:
Root/Knox trip voids warranty as far as Samsung is concerned. Sprint and other extended warranties may not check but it's a warning that gets reiterated often for non liability reasons.
Odin the stock tar is only true un-root method that should work to restore OTA updates but also Odin the lollipop stock tar, when available, would be an option many rooted users would choose.
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How do you get he tar for Odin? Your totally right. about Odin and the tar. I really don't have to wait to get the OTA when I can just find it myself.
How did you root, a recovery and Odin? I'm trying to get the ADB to work first. I guess ADB unlock OEM will wipe everything you have but opens the firmware also. I'm not going to try that way right now I just want to shoot superuser in that way.
Sorry didn't word that very well. How do you use Odin to root without installing a custom recovery?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55865442&postcount=3
Find the 910P link and download it; open the archive and placed the contents into a folder placed and named something like Odin or Note 4 root.

There are many users around xda that have sent their phones to samsung for a warranty repair with Knox tripped and had no problem. If you really look around you'll see this Knox bit thing is really no big deal. Just don't truly brick your phone and you'll be fine

Voiding Samsung warranty isn't an issue for most people anyways. I don't warranty through Samsung. I purchased my phone from Sprint and Sprint handles the warranty.

samep said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55865442&postcount=3
Find the 910P link and download it; open the archive and placed the contents into a folder placed and named something like Odin or Note 4 root.
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Thanks for the instructions here. It worked like a charm. I had no idea I could root with out a custom recover.

planb234 said:
Thanks for the instructions here. It worked like a charm. I had no idea I could root with out a custom recover.
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You're welcome. If you want to backup stock recovery and use custom recovery and go back to stock recovery without flashing the the stock tar in Odin, try Flashify.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.flashify
You'd need custom recovery for backup nandroid or flashing custom ROMs, kernels, and mods (remember stock Rom is Odexed and some mods are intended for the ROM it was based on and may also be deodexed).
Flashify can also backup the stock kernel but I'd recommend the stock kernel flash because custom kernel will swap some modules that Flashify won't restore. You could skip the custom kernel unless you enjoy fiddling with custom apps and settings. The custom kernel will also have to be worked around for some video streaming and games. The stock kernel is quite capable and in my experience holds it own in benchmarks and battery savings.

planb234 said:
Voiding Samsung warranty isn't an issue for most people anyways. I don't warranty through Samsung. I purchased my phone from Sprint and Sprint handles the warranty.
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You pay the extra $$ for sprints protection plan?

jhill110 said:
You pay the extra $$ for sprints protection plan?
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Yes I pay 11 a month for insurance. Everything is covered for 6 months or something like that. The insurance is for breakage.
samep said:
You're welcome. If you want to backup stock recovery and use custom recovery and go back to stock recovery without flashing the the stock tar in Odin, try Flashify.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.flashify
You'd need custom recovery for backup nandroid or flashing custom ROMs, kernels, and mods (remember stock Rom is Odexed and some mods are intended for the ROM it was based on and may also be deodexed).
Flashify can also backup the stock kernel but I'd recommend the stock kernel flash because custom kernel will swap some modules that Flashify won't restore. You could skip the custom kernel unless you enjoy fiddling with custom apps and settings. The custom kernel will also have to be worked around for some video streaming and games. The stock kernel is quite capable and in my experience holds it own in benchmarks and battery savings.
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I'm going to give this method a shot. I'm sick of waiting on v Sprint to delivery anything but hidden costs. I thought it would be cool to have the original lollipop delivered to my phone but honestly I wouldn't use it long anyways. There is bound room for outside influence in a 700 dollar device. I'm going with the deodexed 5.0 on xda. I'll let you know how the flashify toy recommended goes. Your your saying it can be used to back entire stock device without custom recovery so i can lock it down before i start sending repeated knox trjps to Samsung? In putting all good Samsung apps into backup and then locking Samsung from my device indefinite

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I'm going to give this method a shot. I'm sick of waiting on v Sprint to delivery anything but hidden costs. I thought it would be cool to have the original lollipop delivered to my phone but honestly I wouldn't use it long anyways. There is bound room for outside influence in a 700 dollar device. I'm going with the deodexed 5.0 on xda. I'll let you know how the flashify toy recommended goes. Your your saying it can be used to back entire stock device without custom recovery so i can lock it down before i start sending repeated knox trjps to Samsung? In putting all good Samsung apps into backup and then locking Samsung from my device indefinite
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I believe I was saying you could backup stock recovery, Odin flash a custom recovery, perform a nandroid backup, flash a custom ROM.
Not sure who it was that asked but attempting to restore a nandroid and restore stock recovery in order to gain OTA update of lollipop may not be a sure thing. I'm not sure if it would work coming from CM12 because the partitions may be different; unsure myself. It's also no guarantee that the update feature wouldn't still flag the system as modified and refuse to install the update. Don't hold me to that; I'd recommend Odin stock tar to come back to KitKat but still unsure if OTA would be possible, if that is your goal. And most, if not all developers, recommend a full wipe/clean install before flashing custom ROMs and updates. Odin to stock tar is also a common suggested troubleshooting step as well. There is Kies and Odin for Samsung lollipop that would still give you the update for rooted devices.
I'd also recommend having CF Auto Root that includes Odin downloaded and standing by along with tar for TWRP, and NK2 stock tar. If things go wrong, you'll recover quicker with less stress. And wait until you have some to time to recover before attempting. Gotta be comfortable with Odin and have the Samsung PC drivers pre-installed and willing to risk the consequences. Others and myself can offer helpful advice, if needed.
The rooted warranty concerns have been explained away by a few. But if you feel more comfortable taking a phone in for repair with stock recovery and a restored stock nandroid go for it. You at least have to accept the notion that your custom ROM may be flashed over if taken in as well.
As far as skipping the CF auto root, I think you can if flashing a rooted ROM in custom recovery but I don't know for sure you can. I'm guessing you can because there's a flashable SuperSU that you can flash to root stock after Odin of custom recovery. A rooted ROM shouldn't be different.
Sorry if I've made assumptions. Just wanted to be clear and not misleading. Flashify can simplify things, especially stock recovery backup and restore. But don't use Flashify to backup and restore kernels unless you're also manually restoring the lib modules along with it; Flashify won't do that for you.

The flashify worked i doubt i will ever put my device back to stock. Waitng for the ota i noticed that Samsung was running updates to my device at least 10 times a day. Security updates meaning they are securing their own interests. yes it says warranty voided but I'm not sure what that means. Samsung won't sell me a phone they would rather let sprint sprint fiscally rape me in the deal. I've not seen on any Samsung site where i can purchase or warranty a device. there access is denied. The only company i allow is Google. True they market some of my information but the majority of their interest is bug reports which is used for improvement. Improvement warrants bandwith. I had the lollipop on my s4 months ago and Samsung is not even releasing it in the us. In short Samsung is left wanting in support. I rooted my device this morn and will install deodexed lollipop when i get off work. Your advice has been helpful and i lookforward to more on upgrading my kernel.

Here's my experience this past week. I flashed the stock tar and hit update now. I got the up to date message. Rooted, tried again... No dice system has been blah blah blah. I unrooted system update : system up to date. Rerooted flashed twrp of course no go. Unrooted flashed stock recovery and.... No go. Re-flashed stock rom... System up to date. Flashed twrp no go. Flashed stock recovery and still no go.
So, it seems once you flash custom recovery there's no going back without flashing the stock rom. Whew, that was a mouth full.
It's mho this Knox thing is blown way out of perportion. Hardware warranty repairs will be done even if Knox is tripped. Plenty of members have done so. If one were to brick their phone flashing that might be a different story.

I don't want the stock ROM anyways. Samsungs overkill with the Knox is equivalent to Microsoft Security update. Samsung makes some sweet hardware but fails the open source. Their trying to be Steve Jobs or Bill Gates. If wanted a to not upgrade I would stick with a Nexus. Google is the only company who agrees that your device is yours and you should always try and improve it. I was seriously getting angry being put last in the world for the newest software. Samsung saying they are updating my device which basically meant Knox was spying and correcting any changes I made. Bricking is most likely to occur if you upgrade with stock recovery.

I will say this for sprint warranty. They don't care. As long as they are able to slip in a several hidden costs with any change or purchase they are satisfied. Sprint repair are all 3rd party representatives. If you happen to find an actual sprint location you will be sent to a third party sprint store. The 3rd party will fix you up as of they don't they don't get paid.