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Just asking because I see no advantage, maybe I am missing something. I feel like some don't flash because they are afraid of bricking there phone. While I guess technically you can brick your phone I assume we all have sprint. They will replace your phone for free or at most you pay 35 dollars. Do not be afraid greatness. Once you flash and theme your phone you will never look back. Touchwiz is a -5 on a scale of 1 to 10 compared to ics.
This phone stock is ugly and Samsung has horrible design taste. When you see this phone on display it looks retarded. Worst wallpapers ever people don't even know this phone is a good phone. I see people playing with a photon more. If were not for rooms and themes I would of sold this phone. Just look at the stock dialer its horrible.
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So you are judging it by the wallpaper? You don't have to use touch wiz if you aren't rooted. There are plenty of launchers like go launcher, launcher pro, adw. Some ppl use the phone just for that reason they don't care about all the extra stuff. And some sprint reps who are smart and know that your device is rooted they won't touch it. There have been plenty of ppl here with they problem
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I ran stock for a while. Personally, it doesn't matter to me how the launcher looks. It just has to be very functional with everything I use often easy to get to. I can do that with touchwiz. I flashed Calkulins ROM because I could do that better.
On my Epic mobile phone.
I'm on stock because I've never rooted before and I'm waiting for ICS
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I'm on stock because I've never rooted before and I'm waiting for ICS
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So when ics comes you will root or just upgrade the from Samsung. And to me rooting is the hardest part flashing rooms and themes is super easy.
I can understand why its confusing kinda. But once rooted everything else is just booting into recovery and installing a zip.
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I was running the stock rom with root for a while. There really aren't that many advantages to a custom rom. Samsung did a great job with TouchWiz. I mean I prefer ADW, but TouchWiz adds a lot of functionality to stock Android. I really didn't have a reason to switch. Then I got bored and started flashing custom roms. If I wasn't a flash-addict, I would have stayed. TW isn't as bad as everyone says it is.
I went back to stock because after rooting and flashing Roms I found that I clocked out on the rest of the world reading xda all the time in anticipation for new updates. "woke up" 2 months later and didn't know where the time went lol
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So you are judging it by the wallpaper? You don't have to use touch wiz if you aren't rooted. There are plenty of launchers like go launcher, launcher pro, adw. Some ppl use the phone just for that reason they don't care about all the extra stuff. And some sprint reps who are smart and know that your device is rooted they won't touch it. There have been plenty of ppl here with they problem
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Some reps are indeed smart enough to immediately recognize a rooted phone. However, they should still assist you with issues. I do all the time
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So you are judging it by the wallpaper? You don't have to use touch wiz if you aren't rooted. There are plenty of launchers like go launcher, launcher pro, adw. Some ppl use the phone just for that reason they don't care about all the extra stuff. And some sprint reps who are smart and know that your device is rooted they won't touch it. There have been plenty of ppl here with they problem
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No I'm not judging by wallpaper I'm saying stock and on display it doesn't look appealing. Part of it is the wallpaper Samsung has on there stock. I can see why somebody who knows nothing about phones will overlook this.
I don't understand how you can't swap out your phone for the same phone. You are a customer and the phone is not even a year old. Sprint will replace your phone if you don't take no for answer. Your paying sprint x amount of dollars a month. Sometimes I replace a phone just because I drop it and it has a tiny scratch. At the most they make me pay 35 dollars which you can have refunded if you call account services. If your in Miami and you can't replace a phone please pm me I will help you for free.
Sprint works for you and unless they like losing customers I don't think a little phone replacement will come between them.
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Yeah, people play with the Photon more in the store because Moto Blur is so beautiful, lol.
Many people dont get in to root cuz they dont want to read how to. Someone told me the hardest step is read, not click start in odin.
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Stocl Rom here...no need to flash and have issues with roms not working properly...yes...80% of all users who are rooted and have flashed are posting questions or problems with these custom roms...I would rather not deal with that crap just for a pretty launcher, icons etc...Ill wail for ICS.
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My phone has yet to be rooted. I'm looking and waiting for that break out rom that's either a ICS or the official ICS update. I've root many phone but right now I don't see any real reason to root. The last phone I had was the e3d and I rooted that because it had so many roms. Every Tom on the GS2 pretty much look all the same IMO which is a stock looking rom. I need variety.
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Flash your phone and find out lol to be honest because stock sucks (and not talking about tw) im saying hiccups and firmware for sure. And if samsung is going to release the new versions to the devs and not to sprint customers then the only way to take advantage is to root and do ourselves
I'm on stock..
I'm in a rooted and debloated stock ROM. Why? Because it's perfect. It's not like the EVO 4G days where you had to flash a custom ROM to get the most out of your phone, the stock ROM on this thing just screams!
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Stock and rooted. I would never put a custom rom. I used to always try them out on my og epic and they always had some sort of bug. EK02 has been good to me and I actually like Touchwiz. And if I get bored of it I can just switch to the stock Android launcher or download a new one from the market.... To each his own if you like custom roms good for you however don't try to knock us that like stock rom.
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I ran a stock Rom for a while with root for a while with mine. I just recently (3 days) put a Rom on my phone, mainly did it so i can tether, and a few other things. I mainly play with kernels personally.
But like metalhead stated, this phone is awesome out of the box. And Im in complete agreement about the evo statement, though it was a great phone you had to change everything to really make it perform.
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I test my own modifications on my phone, and sometimes leave them.. but I despise themeing and I always use touchwiz...
any modifications done to my phone are purely functional..
Yeah, I "played" around with the photon for a few minutes and the only thing that really stood out to me was...Holy S&%$ this thing is laggy ,laughed at the EVO3D,looked at the IP4S..couldn't find the screen So the GS2 was a no brainer. Touchwiz isn't bad...but that's my opinion. Everyone has different tastes. The phone is fast the screen is big the camera is good so I'm still holding off on rooting for now as I really don't see any need to..for me anyways.
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What is the point of using cyanogenmod over stock? I've tried researching for a answer and nothing comes up. Does anyone care to explain what all the hype about cyanogenmod and using it over stock + root
Like per say if it improves overall proformence of the s3 on a battery and stability basis then ill be sold to give it a try
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Hmm well the major benefit is getting to use AOSP. Which is stock android as google intended (ie like the galaxy nexus), none of the samsung touchwiz stuff. Other benefit for now being that its jellybean. Im sure people here can come up with a laundry list of reasons for why cm is better than stock but those are the two main that would probably come into anyones head.
its straight build from the android source, no touchwiz sense etc.. a google experience lol
Those and a whack of in-built customization at your disposal
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For the sheer thrill of it. Because you can. To experiment and learn. I allot of times don't need to know nothing about an OS to at least try it. People waste hundreds of man hours to create this stuff. Try it out. See what they spent all their time to create. Happy hacking!
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Reasons I use any ROM over stock (features vary ROM to ROM)
Change songs with Volume rocker
Built in WiFi tethering
No Bloatware
There are other things I look for in a ROM but unfortunately CM does not include any of those (e.g. app password lock built into system and cannot be removed)
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What is the point of using cyanogenmod over stock? I've tried researching for a answer and nothing comes up. Does anyone care to explain what all the hype about cyanogenmod and using it over stock + root
Like per say if it improves overall proformence of the s3 on a battery and stability basis then ill be sold to give it a try
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Plus Cyanogen you can customize it more than stock, just little things, like navigation bar, which I don't use, just an example.
Yup haha, loving cm10 no issues at all loving every moment of it cm>touchwiz
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My story, I had the original Galaxy S Captivate from AT&T and as my contract was close to running out I decided to finally put a custom ROM on my phone since it was slow getting updated. After a while I ended up with CM. It was a huge improvement over the old stock rom (even with the updates they had managed to get out). Fast forward to this weekend I finally bit the bullet and decided to upgrade to a new phone so I got an S3. My first thought upon turning on the phone was "omg this is terrible!".
Samsung's touch wiz basically is where they take the newest versions of Android and try to force it to work like the older version (presumably so that all their phones work the same). So the first thing I did on getting home is spend time getting CM installed on it and I haven't looked back. You lose some of the Samsung apps but most of them are useless anyway but you gain a better experience.
I am going to be running Stock Android just because of how buttery smooth it is. Oh and yes if you didn't know we have a pretty much fully functional cm10 ROM!!! Will post details if anyone needs them
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I am going to be running Stock Android just because of how buttery smooth it is. Oh and yes if you didn't know we have a pretty much fully functional cm10 ROM!!! Will post details if anyone needs them
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no way I will give up air view, snote, multi window, popup browser, one handed operation..
If you want pure android, why not go with nexus4?
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no way I will give up air view, snote, multi window, popup browser, one handed operation..
If you want pure android, why not go with nexus4?
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It isnt available and won't be for awhile. Plus I love the big screen on the phone and the fact that its made by Samsung. I've had bad experiences with LG products
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This is probably the first phone I wouldnt root if it wernt for the need to remove carrier IQ. I wish we had a temproot so I could get carrierIQ out and keep the phone stock . I <3 touchwiz. Way more polished than sense imho .
So conflicted atm... But... think will wait just a /bit/ longer for it to shake out.
Bah, who am I kidding, downloading now.
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Known issues:
- The stylus doesn't work. Need to investigate.
- Radio crashes every now and then.
- Audio in phone calls requires an initiation phase: make 2 phone calls to any number when you boot up to get audio functional on the 3rd call.
Ah, perhaps I will wait that big longer.
I'll be running stock TW until I get tired of it, then I'll try some launchers and get tired of those. Thats when I'll flash a new ROM and Kernel.
I'm going to stick with TouchWiz so that my phone would be fully functional as it was meant to be. Also, TW has drastically gotten much better and I already like the feel of it. It's already fast and buttery smooth. And with my phone rooted I had it tweaked at 5x5 grid with scrolling wallpaper and a sweet ass theme.
I haven't rooted yet, in the past only did it to have full data access (tether) that I pay for, and delete bloat. But with new updates coming at some point I've been making due just fine so I'll wait until after the big update to decide if I'll root. As far as stock versus touchwiz lol now that's easy regardless to the screen size or how smooth it runs I couldn't imagine losing my pen that's how I enter text etc and once of my main reasons for buying, could have kept my S3 & yes 4.8 to 5.5 is different but let's be serious why get a note 2 only to root and put stock.........losing all the reasons to own a note two ........laughing out loud. And FINALLY you delete carrier IQ Lmao, ok fine but if you haven't noticed this won't stop big brother so your peace of mind is shot boots. Non existent
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Besides the screen size, the S pen is the obvious stand out feature. Without all the S pen additions it'll be "just a big phone". I'm sticking with TW until I decide to completely give up on using the S pen.
I want to run stock but I'll probably wait awhile until all the spen goodies are rolled in. I don't use it that much, but I'd hate to lose it. My last experience with TW was the Vibrant. So far it hasn't been that bad. I'm running Nova Launcher.
The only function I use from stock is the pop up browser. I never use the pen unless I'm showing someone the gimmick of drawing with it. So yes. I'd love me some CM10.
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Touchwiz all the way. Not a huge fan of stock android.. plus I would lose all these cool features of a Samsung phone.
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I'm sticking with TW for awhile or at least until we get some better custom ROMs. I like TW and the settings but not the Samsung and Tmobile apps.
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I am going to be running Stock Android just because of how buttery smooth it is. Oh and yes if you didn't know we have a pretty much fully functional cm10 ROM!!! Will post details if anyone needs them
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I think your terms are misleading. To me, CM10 and AOKP aren't "Stock Android", they're "AOSP" or "Vanilla Android". Of course that's just semantics. "Stock" is the ROM that the phone shipped with. With that in mind....
I'll be running a rooted TouchWiz "stock" ROM, debloated (my idea of debloated), with Nova Launcher. I get the best of both worlds that way, in my opinion. All the goodies that Samsung has done to the phone that make it BETTER, in my opinion, than "AOSP", plus I can add the best of other ROMs. With Nova Launcher, I have the "look & feel" of "AOSP" as well.
YMMV.
By the way, why didn't you add an actual poll to the thread?
This phone + Paranoid Android is all I need. Most of samsungs apps are inferior to their aosp counter parts. The only thing I'll be losing out on is the s pen which I have never actually used in a useful way anyway. Samsung has great hardware but their software and design choices need improvement.
i'll be moving to cm10 once they sort out the calling/audio issue.. i bought this phone because it's a performance beast and the lovely screen.. the s-pen wasn't even a consideration in the purchase for me.. sure, it's a neat gimmick (pull out lightsaber sounds to amuse the kids) but i can't see myself using it for anything..
I'll be using it on touchwiz, since wifi calling is a must and multiview, while i'm really anticipating it, isn't a big enough reason for me to root just yet (I'm lazy and this phone is awesome even without root/custom ROMs). One day I will, but for now I'm just going to mess with the phone
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This phone + Paranoid Android is all I need. Most of samsungs apps are inferior to their aosp counter parts. The only thing I'll be losing out on is the s pen which I have never actually used in a useful way anyway. Samsung has great hardware but their software and design choices need improvement.
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I will be running both.. ...You should try jelly beer in the at&t forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046616...... premium it's working pretty good . i diff install the volume mod though
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Jelly beer here too, very smooth. Spen works but missing multi Window. Loving it right now.
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I'm running Jedi-X7.2 which is the international port. Couldn't wait for TMo to release their update.
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i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
This thread belongs in the Q&A forum, not the General forum. (Also, your '?' key seems to be stuck.)
Gary02468 your number lock seems to be stuck. Qt pie.
I am kinda in that boat
I just got my note2 and have since flashed recovery / and clean rom however I tend to like sticking stockish till I know the water temp so to speak. I tried to just do the root with out changing the counter but OTA's killed my root. Hence the twrp and clean rom...
I just cant win... heh.
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i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
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I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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Nice to see an iphone user do the swap
I gotta say its awesome to see an iPhone user move on over.
I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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And it seems that there's no"." key on your iphone.
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i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
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On many phones I have stayed on stock for stability and feature set. In many cases when you go to another rom (especially AOSP) you lose TW features, S-Pen, etc... and in many cases I find not everything is 100%
That said the Note II development is fantastic. Many of the TW based roms give you everything you get with stock, but with more. AOSP you lose the TW feature set but it is amazingly stable and fast with a whole lot of other features.
With my S3 I could not find a single rom that I did not have problems on, but with the Note II I have a harder time deciding WHICH rom to use :good:
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I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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I agree with this guy. Even with my acer liquid mt when I rooted it and used the leaked gingerbread rom for it, the camera (which i use a lot got messed up and would over expose the pictures to white messes of garbage) and I noticed that after switching back to the normal stock rom with root, the camera would screw the video with red green and blue lines...gross I know...
And plus, just like my old ipod touch 2g (which doesnt work cuz the battery is dead. big surprise CRapple) it looked as normal as it should, but behind the curtain, the device was screaming at me to stop, every little tweak, hack, or anything I could do to the device. (Except install android on it because the project cut off 2Gs)
So what im saying is, its more fun to screw with the stock app.
Dont like the boatware?
Download a root app uninstaller.
Dont like anything about most devices?
Someone else doesnt like it either, and theyre smarter than you and figured out how to change that.
Root all stock roms.
Maybe one day, they will have an option to come rooted and unlocked.
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For me 1st time I'm on stock. I like it and don't see a need for change I did root it. On my SGS the minute I go it I put a rom on it.
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I did until I discovered PA battery life. Been 5 hours of fair use, mostly as a media player, connected to data. Battery is still at 84%
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I hate stock as soon as another ROM handles all I want. I have a toddler. I need camera function. As soon as cm10 fixed it a week ago. I will never go back to stock again. Only 2 features I miss are page buddy and mhl. Page buddy probably can be modded in though
I love the new features they keep adding instead of stock. And I love a 150meg download instead of 700meg
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The lack of mhl in cm or aokp keep me on stock based roms
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The same day I purchased my Note 2, I had it rooted and has TWRP installed on it. Day 2 I was flashing roms. I guess I just really like to tinker with my phones, because where was nothing wrong with stock!
C.FLAT, "I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy"
If you are that concerned with the camera features working why not flash a ROM like Scrosler's CLEAN ROM ATT SE. It made from ATT base. Completely stock without the bloatware. Everything works perfectly and you are not at the mercy of your carrier to recieve OTA's instead your at Scroslers lol. But seriously, I would much rather get/wait for updates from a DEV here on XDA (Where I can talk directly to the DEV and or people in the thread also using the ROM) instead of waiting for carriers to take forever and you can't directly talk to the team of people who made the Official ROM . So for me if you want stock look and feel with no bloatware and is more customizable than actual stock I would go with a ROM based or made from complete stock base. Just my 2 cents
Slow motion on jedi
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stock miscom
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So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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besides the excellent support miscom. Thanks miscom
I'm on stock cause I got no reason to be otherwise. Everything works as intended, and the so-called "bloatware" is in reality a complete non-issue.
Just seeing how much people like being stock on the lg g3
I rooted to get rid of the annoying quick launch panel.
With the tweaks box i dont even care about other roms to be honest
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With the tweaks box i dont even care about other roms to be honest
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Thats how Im doing it as well....
I rooted just to block the advertising. Then I found out that I could get rid of Carrier IQ and so much more. I am glad I rooted this baby.
Rooted to remove some bloat AMD carrierIQ
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With the tweaks box i dont even care about other roms to be honest.
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Same here. Although I would love to see a SlimKat port. That would be a freaking beast.
I would like to just have some themes over sky dragon.
Stock sucks
AWESOME G3
I rooted so I can fix write to memory card problem.
Im on stock rooted and i love it (not that i wouldnt love an optimized rom more) but i was just getting sick of ads and the dpi made everything so big so that had to change too lol
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I rooted so I can fix write to memory card problem.
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Idk how i see so many people with this problem. I can use my mem card no problems since day 1.
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Rooted, sd write as mentioned, carrier iq, dpi, ads...hell, same reasons as everyone else. I don't mind it stock with root but I am hoping for AOSP builds honestly as I just prefer it. I should have got a nexus but knowing the 5 was nearing the point that one way or the other goggle would update it or go silver I just couldn't justify it so went with the g3. Now if only the locked bootloader gets defeated I feel confident this phone will fly.
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With the tweaks box i dont even care about other roms to be honest
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If I could trade the tweak box for Dirty Unicorns, I'd do it in a heartbeat lol
I rooted just because I can. Aside from a few minor tweaks from tweakbox, I'm still completely stock. Haven't flashed any roms or mods, although the WiFi tether mod has peaked my interest. This phone is nearly perfect right out the box. Haven't felt the need to install a custom Rom. Most of them are stock roms anyway.
I rooted in order to use TWRP recovery and various xposed tweaks. I can honestly say that after rooting and applying some xposed mods, I don't even miss the AOSP experience on my previous Nexus devices. This stock ROM (with the right tweaks) absolutely flies and has some nice features that I'd miss with an AOSP ROM. I think my days of flashing AOSP ROMs are over.
I want to root but I don't know where to begin and how to get stuffs like ads block, dpi changer ... Do I need to flash new ROM to get those?? Could someone please show me to the right direction?
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I rooted in order to use TWRP recovery and various xposed tweaks. I can honestly say that after rooting and applying some xposed mods, I don't even miss the AOSP experience on my previous Nexus devices. This stock ROM (with the right tweaks) absolutely flies and has some nice features that I'd miss with an AOSP ROM. I think my days of flashing AOSP ROMs are over.
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What Xposed tweaks are you using?
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Many will be running stock, but it wont be the op definition of stock (aka no root) this is after all...xda development, according to the vote, 87% are here just for that lol
I pretty much always root, but I couldn't stay stock since I found the UI to be unresponsive at times. I'm currently running the SkyDragon ROM and kernel along with Nova Launcher and other mods.
I went ahead and rooted my phone in order to get rid of the lag/stutter and to get rid of bloat and Carrier IQ. Of course, as I've gotten farther down the rabbit hole, I now have TWRP Recovery and have downloaded (not installed yet!) Skydragon's ROM and Kernel to take advantage of further optimizations.
I had a One (m7) and a G2 and never felt the need to root as T-Mobile's footprint on them was pretty limited. But, getting back in the saddle on XDA and using these amazing developers' work has rekindled my interest in the details!