[POLL]Will you be running Stock Android or TouchWiz based ROMs? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II

I am going to be running Stock Android just because of how buttery smooth it is. Oh and yes if you didn't know we have a pretty much fully functional cm10 ROM!!! Will post details if anyone needs them
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twolfekc said:
I am going to be running Stock Android just because of how buttery smooth it is. Oh and yes if you didn't know we have a pretty much fully functional cm10 ROM!!! Will post details if anyone needs them
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no way I will give up air view, snote, multi window, popup browser, one handed operation..
If you want pure android, why not go with nexus4?

westchester1940 said:
no way I will give up air view, snote, multi window, popup browser, one handed operation..
If you want pure android, why not go with nexus4?
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It isnt available and won't be for awhile. Plus I love the big screen on the phone and the fact that its made by Samsung. I've had bad experiences with LG products
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This is probably the first phone I wouldnt root if it wernt for the need to remove carrier IQ. I wish we had a temproot so I could get carrierIQ out and keep the phone stock . I <3 touchwiz. Way more polished than sense imho .

So conflicted atm... But... think will wait just a /bit/ longer for it to shake out.
Bah, who am I kidding, downloading now.
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Known issues:
- The stylus doesn't work. Need to investigate.
- Radio crashes every now and then.
- Audio in phone calls requires an initiation phase: make 2 phone calls to any number when you boot up to get audio functional on the 3rd call.
Ah, perhaps I will wait that big longer.

I'll be running stock TW until I get tired of it, then I'll try some launchers and get tired of those. Thats when I'll flash a new ROM and Kernel.

I'm going to stick with TouchWiz so that my phone would be fully functional as it was meant to be. Also, TW has drastically gotten much better and I already like the feel of it. It's already fast and buttery smooth. And with my phone rooted I had it tweaked at 5x5 grid with scrolling wallpaper and a sweet ass theme.

I haven't rooted yet, in the past only did it to have full data access (tether) that I pay for, and delete bloat. But with new updates coming at some point I've been making due just fine so I'll wait until after the big update to decide if I'll root. As far as stock versus touchwiz lol now that's easy regardless to the screen size or how smooth it runs I couldn't imagine losing my pen that's how I enter text etc and once of my main reasons for buying, could have kept my S3 & yes 4.8 to 5.5 is different but let's be serious why get a note 2 only to root and put stock.........losing all the reasons to own a note two ........laughing out loud. And FINALLY you delete carrier IQ Lmao, ok fine but if you haven't noticed this won't stop big brother so your peace of mind is shot boots. Non existent
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Besides the screen size, the S pen is the obvious stand out feature. Without all the S pen additions it'll be "just a big phone". I'm sticking with TW until I decide to completely give up on using the S pen.

I want to run stock but I'll probably wait awhile until all the spen goodies are rolled in. I don't use it that much, but I'd hate to lose it. My last experience with TW was the Vibrant. So far it hasn't been that bad. I'm running Nova Launcher.

The only function I use from stock is the pop up browser. I never use the pen unless I'm showing someone the gimmick of drawing with it. So yes. I'd love me some CM10.
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Touchwiz all the way. Not a huge fan of stock android.. plus I would lose all these cool features of a Samsung phone.
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I'm sticking with TW for awhile or at least until we get some better custom ROMs. I like TW and the settings but not the Samsung and Tmobile apps.

twolfekc said:
I am going to be running Stock Android just because of how buttery smooth it is. Oh and yes if you didn't know we have a pretty much fully functional cm10 ROM!!! Will post details if anyone needs them
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I think your terms are misleading. To me, CM10 and AOKP aren't "Stock Android", they're "AOSP" or "Vanilla Android". Of course that's just semantics. "Stock" is the ROM that the phone shipped with. With that in mind....
I'll be running a rooted TouchWiz "stock" ROM, debloated (my idea of debloated), with Nova Launcher. I get the best of both worlds that way, in my opinion. All the goodies that Samsung has done to the phone that make it BETTER, in my opinion, than "AOSP", plus I can add the best of other ROMs. With Nova Launcher, I have the "look & feel" of "AOSP" as well.
YMMV.
By the way, why didn't you add an actual poll to the thread?

This phone + Paranoid Android is all I need. Most of samsungs apps are inferior to their aosp counter parts. The only thing I'll be losing out on is the s pen which I have never actually used in a useful way anyway. Samsung has great hardware but their software and design choices need improvement.

i'll be moving to cm10 once they sort out the calling/audio issue.. i bought this phone because it's a performance beast and the lovely screen.. the s-pen wasn't even a consideration in the purchase for me.. sure, it's a neat gimmick (pull out lightsaber sounds to amuse the kids) but i can't see myself using it for anything..

I'll be using it on touchwiz, since wifi calling is a must and multiview, while i'm really anticipating it, isn't a big enough reason for me to root just yet (I'm lazy and this phone is awesome even without root/custom ROMs). One day I will, but for now I'm just going to mess with the phone

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This phone + Paranoid Android is all I need. Most of samsungs apps are inferior to their aosp counter parts. The only thing I'll be losing out on is the s pen which I have never actually used in a useful way anyway. Samsung has great hardware but their software and design choices need improvement.
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I will be running both.. ...You should try jelly beer in the at&t forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046616...... premium it's working pretty good . i diff install the volume mod though
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Jelly beer here too, very smooth. Spen works but missing multi Window. Loving it right now.
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I'm running Jedi-X7.2 which is the international port. Couldn't wait for TMo to release their update.
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Will you run AOSP, AOKP, or CM?

I know i cant wait to have stock android on my note 2. How do others feel?
I feel the same way i which aocp would be ported or paranoid or miui i am desperate i check everyday
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Yeah im sick of looking in task manager and seeing all the crap running even after i removed bloatware. Mfgs really screw up the android experience. Cant wait for a stock android based rom.
I personally like all the extras that touch wiz has added on THIS phone. Normally I would run pure stock but I'm happy with this phone out of the box. It helps that everything I don't need or use I can go in and disable and not worry about it running or using ram. I'm personally stock, not rooted and content. First phone ever that I didn't feel the need to root. Just my opinion.
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I personally like all the extras that touch wiz has added on THIS phone. Normally I would run pure stock but I'm happy with this phone out of the box. It helps that everything I don't need or use I can go in and disable and not worry about it running or using ram. I'm personally stock, not rooted and content. First phone ever that I didn't feel the need to root. Just my opinion.
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Actually i feel the same way you do bro.. first phone that I've had for 2 weeks now and it hasn't been rooted yet... i just like the way the phone is.. it pretty much has everything i need are want right now...
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I'm having a hard time waiting for Paranoid.
This phone feels incomplete without it.
I love aosp and aokp, but in Galaxy Nexus. Why would i use that when i loose all functionality of S-pen? When i don't have true multitasking?
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I love aosp and aokp, but in Galaxy Nexus. Why would i use that when i loose all functionality of S-pen? When i don't have true multitasking?
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Exactly, I already own Gnex and N7. I'm fully aware of what AOSP roms are capable of. No way I want any of those roms installed on my Note 2. I bought this because I wanted all those features that's tied into Spen. This phone would be very bad without the stock features. If I wanted stock experience, I would've waited for Nexus 4 or stayed with my Gnex. I've been rom hopping for last 2 years and now I just want something that's good enough.
I have to admit, it becomes like an addiction. I would be looking for new roms and rom updates constantly everyday.
Im over touchwiz...I would luv to run cm10 or paranoid on this beast of phone.or miui would be real nice too...
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Im over touchwiz...I would luv to run cm10 or paranoid on this beast of phone.or miui would be real nice too...
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use a different launcher. I use Nova and I love it. I hardly see touchwiz and I still get all the spen features.
teshxx said:
I love aosp and aokp, but in Galaxy Nexus. Why would i use that when i loose all functionality of S-pen? When i don't have true multitasking?
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There are cherrypicks you can do with AOKP right now that gives apparently full functionality to the S-Pen.
deaffob said:
Exactly, I already own Gnex and N7. I'm fully aware of what AOSP roms are capable of. No way I want any of those roms installed on my Note 2. I bought this because I wanted all those features that's tied into Spen. This phone would be very bad without the stock features. If I wanted stock experience, I would've waited for Nexus 4 or stayed with my Gnex. I've been rom hopping for last 2 years and now I just want something that's good enough.
I have to admit, it becomes like an addiction. I would be looking for new roms and rom updates constantly everyday.
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Same here I'm always looking for rom updates.
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Iv already given up the s-pen. If it could hit the captive buttons then i would thinkbits great but needing to use the pen and your fingers to fully navigate the phone it anoying...
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Iv already given up the s-pen. If it could hit the captive buttons then i would thinkbits great but needing to use the pen and your fingers to fully navigate the phone it anoying...
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You know there are gestures that the pen can do to imitate the back and the menu button right?
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Naah I like the stock ROM and its features and stock Android will never have Wi-Fi calling which is something I must have with work so I'll never put it on this phone
Wifi calling is great but it's voice is a dinosaur.
I'm using the multi window rom and installed 4.2 Gapps.
Used the 4.2 launcher then switched to Go for the eye candy. Still maintain the S-pen while having 4.2 camera, gallery, ect AND sCal, sGallery and others.
Battery seems to be on par with stock Touchwiz, 40% after 15.5 hours, and 2.5hours screen time.
Still not sure how useful multi window is but I do agree Paranoid and the note2 were meant to be together.
first phone that im actually keeping stock!!! Phone runs smooth and with no problems.... aosp and aokp just seem.......pretty boring now. I do wish to have the nexus navigation on screen bar.
For the advanced users(we know who we are) AOSP will be great I can't wait. It's pointless now a days to not have AOSP it's best to start clean then add what you want free up all the space/ram and have the latest updates. I came from S3 and wanted the quad core, 5.5, and RGB s-pen can stay docked for all I care. When it comes it will be great!
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There are cherrypicks you can do with AOKP right now that gives apparently full functionality to the S-Pen.
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Really?
Is it available for our Note II?
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Really?
Is it available for our Note II?
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No. The were added as the original note got support for aokp, once aokp (which cmenard is currently working on) is available for our device that functionality could be added, if it hasn't been merged by then.
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New Rom Ideas

I have been battling back and forth between touchwiz roms and AOSP roms. . So if any developers are looking for a new rom to make, here is my idea (yes, i know it is not a new idea and has been done on many devices). What i would like to have is the stabilty and battery life of a UVDLJA rom including touchwiz launcher, with AOSP lockscreen, inverted AOSP contacts and messenger.I don't know if its possible, but could there be options for this using aroma in the touchwiz roms?
Something I saw while working in the s2 board with my wife's phone was a rom with a touchwhiz base and the aokp rom control features added, I personally would love something like that
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TL;DR... I agree on the new rom idea lol. And I *****ed and moaned about the roms we have all in relativity are too damn close to each other. But I still respect their hard work, and praise them all as they are doing things I wish I could do.
I wish I had the knowledge and computer strong enough to do this kinda work, I would've had the rom up and running so long ago lol... I used my phone to get most of it working. building sounds and apps into a rom little things here and there just started to break I gave up.
This would be my ultimate DD never have to flash a rom again. I absolutely despise the "nature" that Samsung built in to this phone.
We have about 3 sounds mods everyone focuses on, some cameras and Keyboards people build into the rom, some awesome themes I'm extremely happy with. I would really like a TW rom with all AOSP sounds instead of the water drops and stuff. Camera from TW, LockScreen from AOSP, Notification and Status bar options from AOKP, 4.2 little things here and there as options.
Know I mean no disrespect and I do appreciate what our guys do in the Dev section.
I miss the devs that worked on those kinda things. We have great guys here (I might get [email protected] for this one) but in general they all seem to be adding the same things; Acid, Beats, Walkman music, removing other Samsung Apps while others keep them. They all leave bloat like LTETest, and LTEsettings in the /system/app folder. I could keep going and going. Know I mean no disrespect and I do appreciate them again. But where are the old roms like we used to get (mentioned above) we had some great stuff in the G2X also. We had roms that had custom lockscreens to launchers and all sorts of neat things I would've never expected. Maybe it's time I stop helping the stupids and save up and get a new computer with the power to build roms as well. (I won't release them to people though lol)
i know the exactly what you guys need
here's a preview (the MyTouch 4G Version):
of course, instead of "Senseless" it would be "TouchWizLess"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440993
give me a couple weeks to really get to know this phone (and find time...high school life w00t) and i'll see what i can do
I am in the process of developing a ROM. Nothing solid yet. I really do agree with keeping the stability and features of stock with some aosp features. At least for me I'll be a start with dev work. I have a Mac so I've already downloaded xcode and working and following dxsidia as guide. It'll take me a while since I work 10 hour shifts at the hospital and also do some website dev on the side.
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I'm glad to see people wanting to work on this. I believe it will make a great DD. It seems I'm one of the few that really like the touchwiz launcher and Widgets, but I ask you to please include that in the rom. People can easily download the other launchers from the market.
I agree, anything that is downloadable from the market should stay there. It's great that you can include something in a rom, but so can simply pressing the install button. Any thing that is already a flashable .zip (like beats) or (acId sounds mod) should stay as a flashable .zip. Just my opinion.
In the ATT galaxy S3 forums, there is a rom called nexusmod reloaded that is close to what I am referring to. Its based on ics and I don't think it has inverted apps that we like.
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In the ATT galaxy S3 forums, there is a rom called nexusmod reloaded that is close to what I am referring to. Its based on ics and I don't think it has inverted apps that we like.
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Ya, that's pretty close to what we're talking about here. I think I flashed that rom a while back now that you point it out. I'm sure we will get something soon.
This is what I was talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32805364
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saranhai said:
i know the exactly what you guys need
here's a preview (the MyTouch 4G Version):
of course, instead of "Senseless" it would be "TouchWizLess"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440993
give me a couple weeks to really get to know this phone (and find time...high school life w00t) and i'll see what i can do
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Damn... I am 41 years old and I love electronic toys. You are making me feel very old. Well young'n, when you get a rom together let me know. I have tested for a couple of devs and understand how to run a logcat. I did a little theme work on the musty trusty HD2. I know a little bit, but run a family business plus I'm back at night school taking care of some unfinished business but I am happy to help.
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This is what I was talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32805364
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That would be nice execpt it don't have inverted AOSP lockscreen,contacts,dialer, and messenger.
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I have been battling back and forth between touchwiz roms and AOSP roms. . So if any developers are looking for a new rom to make, here is my idea (yes, i know it is not a new idea and has been done on many devices). What i would like to have is the stabilty and battery life of a UVDLJA rom including touchwiz launcher, with AOSP lockscreen, inverted AOSP contacts and messenger.I don't know if its possible, but could there be options for this using aroma in the touchwiz roms?
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dude, you totally can.
easiest way, though, would be to disable your lockscreen and try out widget locker or something like that.
as far as the inverted apps go, i would hit up some of the guys in the themes and apps section. wouldn't take very long to whip something like that up... hell, even the lockscreen wouldn't take very long to modify.
why CM chooses to build from the source of another device is beyond me. it would be much easier to customize the layout/UI, parameters, and make it functional with the firmware meant for this thing, and you would keep all the functionality of TW.
anyways, yeah.
There is this great divide feeling as I've been playing with my new S3, and it really brings homage to the Linux scene (compare: xfce vs kde vs gnome, etc.).
Though I've settled on TouchWiz for now, there are some things I wish were an option and not "just the way it is".
I finally got kitchen working on my Mac. Got a base up and will hopefully be able to post it later. This is my plan since we be seen this throughout. People want stability of stock and those who love tw features will love this. I will be implementing aroma installer later when I get that injected. I've only built a ROM before for myself but never posted it. It'll be theme free and since it'll be stock most stock themes should work. I basically want people to do the work on their own. If they want to add volume mods like beats , they should flash it on their own . This is an experiment to get my foot out there and I'd love the support. Any name suggestions. ??
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Idk if this is possible but I always enjoyed the 7 recent apps by drop pulling the notification bar. Just my personal preference, don't really like the hold the home button to see the recent apps.
Quick question guys, how hard would it be to port a sense rom? I know if it were easy we would have a few, but just how hard is it?
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AttachedSilver said:
Idk if this is possible but I always enjoyed the 7 recent apps by drop pulling the notification bar. Just my personal preference, don't really like the hold the home button to see the recent apps.
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I saw something like this is the play store like 6 months ago that worked really similar. I can't remember the name
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Quick question guys, how hard would it be to port a sense rom? I know if it were easy we would have a few, but just how hard is it?
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Very very difficult from what I hear. Took big of a feat for me.
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I'd love to have a rom with the touchwiz look and all of its features that also has the features of cm10 or aokp
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I'd love to have a rom with the touchwiz look and all of its features that also has the features of cm10 or aokp
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What about using an 4.2 launcher and some status bar tweaks.
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How many of you have cm10?

How many of you are using custom roms? Cm10? Just curious. I had it on my gs3, and pretty much loved it; however Im concerned about loosing some functionality on my note 2, ie. s-pen stuff.
Not me. No ROMs on this phone. Never will be. Stock Touchwiz 5 I'm in love with. So smooth and great battery life and all the spen magic I don't want to lose. Like cm10? Install apex or Nova launcher and you have 95% of the look. At this point, with this Touchwiz, CM/AOSP will take away more features that it would add.
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I agree. I finally I don't have the urge to flash or even root this phone. Everything is great right out of the box!
No need to flash i317
TW has been improved significantly but it doesn't compare to AOSP. I cant stand the huge DPi it comes with on this already huge phone.
I'm waiting for CM10 to be fully stable and hit nightlies before I flash.
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I agree. I finally I don't have the urge to flash or even root this phone. Everything is great right out of the box!
No need to flash i317
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I agree, but all I want is the tv off effect, and maybe wifi tether.
Rooted and flashed Jedi X. Makes the phone much better. It stupid not to root at least.
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Can someone point me in the direction of this mythical working cm10 your even talking about.
Why even ask that question
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Do you like? The switch from touchwiz based roms to AOKP/CM

Who has switched? What has been your experience? Are there any features that you miss? Any apps you use in the place of others?
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On every other phone I've owned I had always strived to always have aosp by the way of cyanogen or aokp..
With the note 2 I feel like I'd be loosing a ton of features..
I tried cm 10.1 a couple of days ago.. but I ended up going stock back.
I honestly like touch wiz in this device... which is something I thought I'd never in my life say, specially on the s1 epic or s2. I never flashed aosp on the s3 because I lost it and ended up having a different phone until I got th note. But aoso was awesome when I had the nexus because I always up to date, but I got bored very easily.
Just my 2 cents I guess.
Lol
Out of all of the AOSP roms out there paranoid Android is my favorite but I always end up back on a tw based rom simply because this phone specifically has features that will never be supported by cm/aosp based roms. This is the first phone that this has been the case. In my opinion Samsung went above and beyond with this device.
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That's the feedback I wanted. I way interested in a new interface but like mentioned I don't want to lose my features
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That's the feedback I wanted. I way interested in a new interface but like mentioned I don't want to lose my features
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If you want a new shell just grab Apex, or Nova, any of the other launcher alternatives out there. You get your new GUI, and you keep most all the features like SPen.
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If you want a new shell just grab Apex, or Nova, any of the other launcher alternatives out there. You get your new GUI, and you keep most all the features like SPen.
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Agreed, I see no need for AOSP as we have all of the features of AOSP right now plus the extra TW features. I use go launcher because I don't like a few things about TW launcher but everything remains in tact. Now, the story will likely change for many of us when Android goes to 4.2 and beyond and we don't get support from Samsung or at least "quick enough" support.

Who prefers to stay on STOCK?????

i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
This thread belongs in the Q&A forum, not the General forum. (Also, your '?' key seems to be stuck.)
Gary02468 your number lock seems to be stuck. Qt pie.
I am kinda in that boat
I just got my note2 and have since flashed recovery / and clean rom however I tend to like sticking stockish till I know the water temp so to speak. I tried to just do the root with out changing the counter but OTA's killed my root. Hence the twrp and clean rom...
I just cant win... heh.
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i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
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I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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Nice to see an iphone user do the swap
I gotta say its awesome to see an iPhone user move on over.
I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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And it seems that there's no"." key on your iphone.
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i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
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On many phones I have stayed on stock for stability and feature set. In many cases when you go to another rom (especially AOSP) you lose TW features, S-Pen, etc... and in many cases I find not everything is 100%
That said the Note II development is fantastic. Many of the TW based roms give you everything you get with stock, but with more. AOSP you lose the TW feature set but it is amazingly stable and fast with a whole lot of other features.
With my S3 I could not find a single rom that I did not have problems on, but with the Note II I have a harder time deciding WHICH rom to use :good:
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I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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I agree with this guy. Even with my acer liquid mt when I rooted it and used the leaked gingerbread rom for it, the camera (which i use a lot got messed up and would over expose the pictures to white messes of garbage) and I noticed that after switching back to the normal stock rom with root, the camera would screw the video with red green and blue lines...gross I know...
And plus, just like my old ipod touch 2g (which doesnt work cuz the battery is dead. big surprise CRapple) it looked as normal as it should, but behind the curtain, the device was screaming at me to stop, every little tweak, hack, or anything I could do to the device. (Except install android on it because the project cut off 2Gs)
So what im saying is, its more fun to screw with the stock app.
Dont like the boatware?
Download a root app uninstaller.
Dont like anything about most devices?
Someone else doesnt like it either, and theyre smarter than you and figured out how to change that.
Root all stock roms.
Maybe one day, they will have an option to come rooted and unlocked.
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For me 1st time I'm on stock. I like it and don't see a need for change I did root it. On my SGS the minute I go it I put a rom on it.
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I did until I discovered PA battery life. Been 5 hours of fair use, mostly as a media player, connected to data. Battery is still at 84%
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I hate stock as soon as another ROM handles all I want. I have a toddler. I need camera function. As soon as cm10 fixed it a week ago. I will never go back to stock again. Only 2 features I miss are page buddy and mhl. Page buddy probably can be modded in though
I love the new features they keep adding instead of stock. And I love a 150meg download instead of 700meg
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The lack of mhl in cm or aokp keep me on stock based roms
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The same day I purchased my Note 2, I had it rooted and has TWRP installed on it. Day 2 I was flashing roms. I guess I just really like to tinker with my phones, because where was nothing wrong with stock!
C.FLAT, "I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy"
If you are that concerned with the camera features working why not flash a ROM like Scrosler's CLEAN ROM ATT SE. It made from ATT base. Completely stock without the bloatware. Everything works perfectly and you are not at the mercy of your carrier to recieve OTA's instead your at Scroslers lol. But seriously, I would much rather get/wait for updates from a DEV here on XDA (Where I can talk directly to the DEV and or people in the thread also using the ROM) instead of waiting for carriers to take forever and you can't directly talk to the team of people who made the Official ROM . So for me if you want stock look and feel with no bloatware and is more customizable than actual stock I would go with a ROM based or made from complete stock base. Just my 2 cents
Slow motion on jedi
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stock miscom
skifreek said:
So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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besides the excellent support miscom. Thanks miscom
I'm on stock cause I got no reason to be otherwise. Everything works as intended, and the so-called "bloatware" is in reality a complete non-issue.

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