Using apps that replace stock ones - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II

One thing in particular is the messaging app. I've used GoSMS for quite a while, but realized that the Direct Call function and Smart Notifications don't work with it. Tried Handcent as well.
Is this something that can be addressed from a developer standpoint or are we forced to pick and choose?
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if its a touchwiz feature it means more than likely it wont work with anything but stock. This is because it does not have the proper framework to use those features.

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SMS integration in ICS

Hi Im a haver sms user and I love gosms. Cause here its possible to get an pop up for the incoming sms and directly answer it.
How is the stock sms app integrated in ICS? Is it possible to get an popup and answer the sms as fast as in gosms? I would appreciate If somebody could explain me the sms feature of his nexus galaxy. Cause I couldnt find any information on the web. maybe Im the last guy who texts. Thx
i am afraid the stock SMS app has not changed much from gingerbread. generally just some UI updates.
MIUI's SMS app is wonderful. It has the popups you are talking about. From what I've seen, it is not too different from past Android builds.
Looks like GoSMS is your answer. I've also seen WM7 Notification Add-On, that provides the popups, available for download in the market. I tested it and it worked but I didn't like it.
I'm sure we'll have a MIUI build eventually also (whoo whoo!)
Hm quietly disappointing. I want to have everything in a consistent look. Are you talking about an sms app from miu or a completerom?
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Sms popup works flawlessly. Used it for years and is perfect. Uses the standard android layout so fits in with ICS easily. Try it out, I'm 100% sure you'll love it.
Everyone I've told it to can't live without it now
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I also used sms pop up. Skipped it as I switched to gosms. But the fact that gosms (more functional) is based on the android gui makes it once again interesting.
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Has anyone had any success with themes with gosms? The colors just go insane when i try any theme and i've tried manually adjusting every setting with little luck. The whole app just looks like crap.

[Q] Auto-converting to MMS

Hello!
I have recently moved from an HTC Desire HD (Cyanogenmodded) to the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, I absolutely love the phone, except for one thing:
The stock Messaging (SMS) app has the habit of converting text-messages to MMS messages, when the size is about 3-4 texts.
My girlfriend has the same issue on her HTC Desire S (un-modded), but I did not have it on my CM7'ed DHD.
Now, I have been looking into things to get this fixed, but to no avail.
I really do not want to use the 3rd party apps like Handcent op GoSMS, because frankly, I think they are ugly and bloated. I just want to use the stock app, but without the limitation.
Tonight, I have been trying to get this to work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065452
It sure seems easy enough, but after putting the app back it just kept crashing.
Has any of you been successful in editing the apk to enable larger text messages?
Thanks in advance for any reply!
Gytax.
I have the same problem..
I'm also really interested in a solution here. I've got 2,000 SMS for free but pay 30cents for a mms which i would never use due to whatsapp... Would be great if there is a tweak to turn off auto convert.
This is the main reason I'm using go SMS heh.
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This is going to hurt. There is no fix whatsoever unless you root your device. Handcent is ugly and bloated. So is GoSMS.
If you go to the market and search BigSMS, that is a clean solution to the problem. It isn't an OS fix, but it's a very simple front-end that allows you to get around the problem. It integrates fully with your native messaging and is free.
Not an OS fix, but the next best thing.
skezza said:
This is going to hurt. There is no fix whatsoever unless you root your device. Handcent is ugly and bloated. So is GoSMS.
If you go to the market and search BigSMS, that is a clean solution to the problem. It isn't an OS fix, but it's a very simple front-end that allows you to get around the problem. It integrates fully with your native messaging and is free.
Not an OS fix, but the next best thing.
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My device is rooted. I tried to fix the app myself, but after compiling the app would not run anymore.
Currently, I just switch to GoSMS when the stock app says my text message is too long (hooray for copy/paste).
I have seen BigSMS already, I might give it a shot.
Thanks for your reply, anyway.
Gytax said:
My device is rooted. I tried to fix the app myself, but after compiling the app would not run anymore.
Currently, I just switch to GoSMS when the stock app says my text message is too long (hooray for copy/paste).
I have seen BigSMS already, I might give it a shot.
Thanks for your reply, anyway.
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This feature is also present in Ice Cream Sandwich.
The disgusting thing about it is this... knowing what I know, there is no way that Google released Ice Cream Sandwich without a way of toggling this particular setting (the conversion I mean) which means the feature was actually REMOVED from the Messaging app, rather than pure ignorance which we've seen from manufacturers in 2.x.
Well, there is a very simple setting inside the messaging app. The app has a hardcoded limit of 4. I tried changing this but, like I said before, the app would not run anymore.
This could be because of my phone not being deodexed.
I was asking if anyone else had any experience with this, because my android modding experience is very very limited.
See this thread.
Gytax said:
Well, there is a very simple setting inside the messaging app. The app has a hardcoded limit of 4. I tried changing this but, like I said before, the app would not run anymore.
This could be because of my phone not being deodexed.
I was asking if anyone else had any experience with this, because my android modding experience is very very limited.
See this thread.
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Yes, the limit is hardcoded, Some devices uses 4, others uses 3 and some HTC's use 5. The thing is, Google implemented a patch for disabling it in 2.2 Froyo. Basically not so you could change the limit, but you could enable/disable whether the conversion took place. They implemented it and major manufacturers like Sony, Samsung, HTC, decided to avoid implementing the patch. So, 2012, 2 years after Froyo, the patch still isn't present in Gingerbread 2.3.5 for SGS for example. It's disgraceful by the major manufacturers to have this little care for the users.

Best SMS sender

Hello! What is the best SMS sender?
go sms
handicent sms
A strange thing hapends... After 1 house of use the go sms, the apk, stop working, and have to return to stock...
That odd I use gosms for the last 4 android phones no problem.... Is better than handcent.... I also run it without pro features n all the other bloatware.... Just minimal message and emoji plugin
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I think stock is the best
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I used Handcent on my Droid 1, but I've been using stock on my Nexus since day one. There are a few reasons I would consider going back to Handcent, but none of them have motivated me enough to make the switch.
Are there any particular features you are looking for? From what I can tell stock suits almost all of my needs...
I haven't felt the need to use a sms replacement app since before 1.5 when we got an on screen keyboard...
Stock is fantastic in 4.0+ I can't help but use it all the time...
I have been using Handcent since I got my Nexus in December and I must say I personally prefer it to the other messaging apps. The settings are very intuitive.
The LED notification customizer/contact is extremely helpful as is the Pop-up customizer!
Overall it is a well balanced app and I have no complaints.
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I used Handcent on my Droid 1, but I've been using stock on my Nexus since day one. There are a few reasons I would consider going back to Handcent, but none of them have motivated me enough to make the switch.
Are there any particular features you are looking for? From what I can tell stock suits almost all of my needs...
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Well my main problem is the dictionary... I have to route every word!!! I think, even when I choose the store, the phone won´t store the word...
Go SMS is my favorite by far

suggestions for dialer issues

ok I just moved from a HTC sensation to the S III, I am really disliking the dialer. Now I am trying out GO DailerEx and it seems pretty good...BUT, when I am in a call it goes back to the samsung dialer until i end the call and hit the back button. Anyone know of a goo0d dailer that completely replaces the samsung junky one? Or know how to replace with Go SMS fully?
I think they all must do that. Same thing happens to me on exDialer
I think this is built into ICS+. I just upgraded from an OG Evo 4G and IIRC GoDialer was completely skinnable, it let me choose the answer/hangup button style, position, etc. Maybe we must wait for an update?
Non sequitur: Is it just me or does XDA have some of the most difficult image verifcations on the internet? I have to click refresh like fifteen times to get something that even resembles words.
The dialers are just that, dialers. They dial the number then let the built-in phone application handle the phone call. You would have to replace the system phone app completely.
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Okay... Is that possible? Can they go dialer be cooked in to a rom and loose the Samsung crap completely or is there another all in one dialer/app?
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You know, I did set GoContacts, GoSMS, and the other Go apps as system apps using Titanium Backup. That was on Gingerbread though, so I make no guarantees. I haven't done it on ICS because there's been no issues with the Go apps dismissing notifications. The only way to remove them was the system remove dialog then a reboot after that.
I don't think setting them as system apps will do what you want. The best bet is to try to replace the samsung dialer with an AOSP one, but I'm not certain how you would do that.
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Dialers on AOKP do the same. So no escape.
Just wonder why do you hate Samsung dialer? It's better than stock Android or AOKP.

(Comparison) Handcent vs Chompsms vs Stock

Hey guys I just want to have people's opinions about the above apps. I have S3 and have been using my stock messaging app with SMSpop up to handle the notifications when I receive texts. Lately I've been reading about these two messaging apps and I have been interested in trying them especially because I want emoji support (I hate my iPhone friends lool). Anyways tell me what messaging app you use and why you love it.
I know what someone will say maybe you should try them out and do research. I have seen review videos for both apps, but I don't really have the time to try them out one by one. I'd rather read reviews than try them.
If I do install a 3rd party messaging app I can keep SMSpop up? Or do the 3rd party apps take care of those functions as well? Such as personalized LED lights per contact and custom text tone for each contact?
thanks for your time and recommendations.
:good::good:
I also get paranoid installing and deleting things in my phone because if it slows down I feel like the program installed a file that didn't delete when I uninstalled. I know I'm paranoid but I know both apps use ads to support their free version.
I have used handcent on all my android phones. I've tried go sms and chomp sms but I always end up back woth handcent. I don't remember if the other two had pop up text, but handcent does. I'd suggest just try each one for a few days and see which one you like best.
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Honestly... You do have time. Ha. Both handcent and chomp will receive your messages. And it only takes a couple seconds to install... If you install it receive messages and end up not liking it un install and try the other, they're not going anywhere and having it won't halt your daily life. So you absolutely have time to try each out if you desire. And if you watched a lot of video reviews some of these questions should have been answered... Personally I used to always use handcent mostly because of the feature to use a password to access texts. But I also like it as a texting app
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iSchadenfreude said:
Hey guys I just want to have people's opinions about the above apps. I have S3 and have been using my stock messaging app with SMSpop up to handle the notifications when I receive texts. Lately I've been reading about these two messaging apps and I have been interested in trying them especially because I want emoji support (I hate my iPhone friends lool). Anyways tell me what messaging app you use and why you love it.
I know what someone will say maybe you should try them out and do research. I have seen review videos for both apps, but I don't really have the time to try them out one by one. I'd rather read reviews than try them.
If I do install a 3rd party messaging app I can keep SMSpop up? Or do the 3rd party apps take care of those functions as well? Such as personalized LED lights per contact and custom text tone for each contact?
thanks for your time and recommendations.
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I also get paranoid installing and deleting things in my phone because if it slows down I feel like the program installed a file that didn't delete when I uninstalled. I know I'm paranoid but I know both apps use ads to support their free version.
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Used Handcent for a long time, but then my wife got an HTC 8x (Windows mobile) and my daughter an iPhone 5 w iOS6, and neither of them could see my emojis; I tried all three " how to encode emojis" settings in Handcent, none made a difference. Even though including emojis isn't exactly a deal breaker , I like fiddling with apps so I tried Go SMS Pro - worked fine with emojis, but access to Quick Text was cumbersome (needed several taps). So now I am using chompSMS - emojis work fine, access to quick text is easy (though it's called "templates"). The only thing I don't like is that all three SMS apps have outgoing messages on the right, incoming on the left. For some reason (don't really understand it myself !!) I prefer it the other way around. You can make that switch in Handcent & Go, but not in chomp.....
I honestly don't recommend any of the above apps unless you have a slow phone. I'd use GO SMS Pro, fully featured and flies off the handle. It pops up text messages too, and has a free add on where you can use and see all iOS 6 emojis.
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Are you rooted? If you are just use this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1922104
I don't know what happens when you flash straight up but I manually unzipped on phone and placed files in correct location while backing up originals. This will give emoji in stock app so you can your current setup and still have emoji!
I have used handcent for a long time on many different devices. I have tried other apps, GoSMS and Chomp, and have always returned to handcent. I like the privacy inbox and the fact that it does not run as a service like GoSMS. I do like GoSMS, but find it ridiculous that you can not disable it as a service.
Also, handcent has a setting to change its priority allowing security and location apps like Cerberus and Androidlost to work properly.
Thanks guys
I've used all of them for a while now. I decided to stick with Chomp sms its basic but works really well hasn't crashed and my battery has seen no change. Even MMS I feared would appear when I used this app did not surface so overall it was a nice experience and I am sticking to it. I wish I had more friends so I could test out the group message but if its something I don't use a lot I am not gonna worry if it works 100% correctly.
IMO GO SMS is the best for functionality and themes. Only thing I don't like about it is that every time I send MMS is resizes the crap out of it whereas stock handles it pretty good but then again it could be my fault for not changing or changing something in the settings.
i use handcent as well. love the popup even on the lock screen. you can read and reply without unlocking your phone, good assortment of themes and lots of settings
chompsms. The rest either don't work or full boatware (cough cough go sms)
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chompsms. The rest either don't work or full boatware (cough cough go sms)
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I heard rumors about that as well. I also heard GoSms isn't optimized for OS higher than Android Ginger Bread...
x1tyme said:
chompsms. The rest either don't work or full boatware (cough cough go sms)
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+1. Never had any issues with Chomp. And the main person I text (my wife) has an iPhone 4s that I jailbroke and is running Chomp's iOS version which is a jailbroken app called BiteSMS. Emojis/MMS work perfect between the two of us.
I'll just leave this here...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.contapps.android.messaging
I've read mixed reviews of messages +. What do you find so good about it? I use the stock tw messaging app right now.
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I've read mixed reviews of messages +. What do you find so good about it? I use the stock tw messaging app right now.
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I've used stock mms since I got my phone, and believe me I tried gosms as well as handcent but I still kept going back to stock. gosms was too bloaty like a previous poster mentioned while handcent has that ugly gingerbread feel to it. stock looks and feels slick and has just the right amount of customization and not overloaded with features like gosms.
Then i tried messages+ (in addition to contacts/dialer/call log+) and oh man. It has the same slickness as stock and I just really love the UI. its not laggy at all, it feels as though this should have been the stock mms app. Oh and it has the AOSP popup feature.
everyone is entitled to their opinion and this is mine. if your a day over 15 and you use a stupid sms replacement then you need to look deep into your soul because this is srs bizns.
the simplicity and beauty of aosp's app is what set's it apart. if google could do anything to improve it i would be impressed because imo its perfect
the other ones are garbage. not even a fair comparison because the other one's are for children.
GO SMS ftw. And yes it does have pop up text and its very customizable.
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I personally use GoSMS. It has a few features that other's do NOT... Like the ability to have seperate & customizable MMS receive settings (mmsc, proxy, port, etc) custom user agent, and change the way it resizes MMS pictures and what the maximum size can be - all separately and independently from the stock mms app.
It does have pop up notification, custom status bar icons for individual contacts, custom individual message tones.... very nice. And its themeable which I do like...
I can't speak of handscent... but I will say this, I was an iPhone user for 4+ years before my current GS3, and on the iPhone BiteSMS is kind, which IS ChompSMS on android -- and I tried it but overall liked GoSMS better... I can't speak of the service running, etc... I will say MOST of the themes cost money, so that sucks - and I use the free ones.
I'm on T-mobile USA, and the NETWORK limits MMS to 300k - plain and simple, so regardless of anything else, your image is going to be resized by the network to 300k regardless what app you use.... (unless something has changed recently on T-mobile network). Another advantage of GoSMS is the customizable UAPROF (user agent) --- This is the string the phone sends to the network server telling HOW to deliver the MMS to your device. The wrong UAPROF results in crappy images. The RIGHT UAPROF results in very nice images. THIS IS A BIG FACTOR IN QUALITY OF MMS - ESPECIALLY IF YOUR USING UNLOCKED PHONES OR NON-BRANDED PHONES ON CERTAIN NETWORKS.... That *ALONE* makes GoSMS worth it (depending on your phone & network combination)
ChompSMS was fine, I just liked GoSMS better for whatever the reason? they're pretty much the same (minus the customizable settings in GoSMS). Now that I'm using a T-mobile branded phone on the T-mobile network, none of the custom settings matter anymore, and if I use the stock mms/messaging app on my current custom rom (darthstalker) I am able to send MMS over wifi just like sending over data. Also receive over wifi....
* RANT *
Why I hate the default messaging/mms app.................. When I get a picture, it plays as a slideshow in a tiny preview unless I save it and view in gallery. UNACCEPTABLE. GoSMS doesn't do that.... I get a picture and I see it using the default viewer - in full screen. NOT AS A SLIDE SHOW. If the default app would do this, I'd probably be using it with some kind of smspopup tweak.
/rant
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