Hello!
I have recently moved from an HTC Desire HD (Cyanogenmodded) to the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, I absolutely love the phone, except for one thing:
The stock Messaging (SMS) app has the habit of converting text-messages to MMS messages, when the size is about 3-4 texts.
My girlfriend has the same issue on her HTC Desire S (un-modded), but I did not have it on my CM7'ed DHD.
Now, I have been looking into things to get this fixed, but to no avail.
I really do not want to use the 3rd party apps like Handcent op GoSMS, because frankly, I think they are ugly and bloated. I just want to use the stock app, but without the limitation.
Tonight, I have been trying to get this to work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065452
It sure seems easy enough, but after putting the app back it just kept crashing.
Has any of you been successful in editing the apk to enable larger text messages?
Thanks in advance for any reply!
Gytax.
I have the same problem..
I'm also really interested in a solution here. I've got 2,000 SMS for free but pay 30cents for a mms which i would never use due to whatsapp... Would be great if there is a tweak to turn off auto convert.
This is the main reason I'm using go SMS heh.
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This is going to hurt. There is no fix whatsoever unless you root your device. Handcent is ugly and bloated. So is GoSMS.
If you go to the market and search BigSMS, that is a clean solution to the problem. It isn't an OS fix, but it's a very simple front-end that allows you to get around the problem. It integrates fully with your native messaging and is free.
Not an OS fix, but the next best thing.
skezza said:
This is going to hurt. There is no fix whatsoever unless you root your device. Handcent is ugly and bloated. So is GoSMS.
If you go to the market and search BigSMS, that is a clean solution to the problem. It isn't an OS fix, but it's a very simple front-end that allows you to get around the problem. It integrates fully with your native messaging and is free.
Not an OS fix, but the next best thing.
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My device is rooted. I tried to fix the app myself, but after compiling the app would not run anymore.
Currently, I just switch to GoSMS when the stock app says my text message is too long (hooray for copy/paste).
I have seen BigSMS already, I might give it a shot.
Thanks for your reply, anyway.
Gytax said:
My device is rooted. I tried to fix the app myself, but after compiling the app would not run anymore.
Currently, I just switch to GoSMS when the stock app says my text message is too long (hooray for copy/paste).
I have seen BigSMS already, I might give it a shot.
Thanks for your reply, anyway.
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This feature is also present in Ice Cream Sandwich.
The disgusting thing about it is this... knowing what I know, there is no way that Google released Ice Cream Sandwich without a way of toggling this particular setting (the conversion I mean) which means the feature was actually REMOVED from the Messaging app, rather than pure ignorance which we've seen from manufacturers in 2.x.
Well, there is a very simple setting inside the messaging app. The app has a hardcoded limit of 4. I tried changing this but, like I said before, the app would not run anymore.
This could be because of my phone not being deodexed.
I was asking if anyone else had any experience with this, because my android modding experience is very very limited.
See this thread.
Gytax said:
Well, there is a very simple setting inside the messaging app. The app has a hardcoded limit of 4. I tried changing this but, like I said before, the app would not run anymore.
This could be because of my phone not being deodexed.
I was asking if anyone else had any experience with this, because my android modding experience is very very limited.
See this thread.
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Yes, the limit is hardcoded, Some devices uses 4, others uses 3 and some HTC's use 5. The thing is, Google implemented a patch for disabling it in 2.2 Froyo. Basically not so you could change the limit, but you could enable/disable whether the conversion took place. They implemented it and major manufacturers like Sony, Samsung, HTC, decided to avoid implementing the patch. So, 2012, 2 years after Froyo, the patch still isn't present in Gingerbread 2.3.5 for SGS for example. It's disgraceful by the major manufacturers to have this little care for the users.
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My friend broke her G1 and got the Slide to replace it, she doesn't like the texting application. I'm sure theres a way to get rid of that or just preferably install stock android on the thing. I don't yet have any experience with Android (I will be getting the Droid X in a week) so I would love a bit of hand holding here.
As far as I understand it would would involve rooting the device and then installing a rom of normal android? Is this correct?
I would love if someone could actually walk me through the process or any tips, keep me in mind that once I do this for her she needs to be able to just use it forever after that. I don't wanna flash her phone and it ends up crashing a week late or something.
So can I be pointed in the right directions?
You would have to Root the Phone to Remove Built in Apps. BUT, Since this IS Android you are not bound to use the Default Messaging App. You can download some very good and Feature Rich Messaging apps from the Market. 2 Free ones that come to mind are Handcent (which I used to use before I got my Slide) and ChompSMS. You just have to uncheck the Recieved Notification box in the HTC one and you should be ok from there.
Before going through the trouble of rooting, has she tried any of the available messaging apps from the market yet?
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Yea, per your suggestions I told her to just try installing another to see if she likes it.
I'm going to start this off by saying that I'm using Cyanogen Mod 6 and I've wiped between every nightly and before installing RC2.
The AOSP messenger that comes with Cyanogen is great. In fact, it's nearly perfect and that's why I'm going to the bother of making this thread. With every release of CM6 for the Evo, I have been unable to send messages longer than 160 characters. It seems that GSM networks can take large messages and split them up before sending them to the recipient. However, the Evo runs on Sprint's CDMA network. CDMA networks unfortunately don't split messages up well. The stock HTC Sense messenger app sidesteps this problem by manually splitting the messages before sending them out. Unfortunately, cyanogen's messenger doesn't have an option for message splitting.
I know this is a small thing since most text messages aren't very large, but it is incredibly annoying. Even worse, if I accidentally try to send one, I am unable to send anymore messages until I get an error messages a few minutes later. Strangely, this problem doesn't seem to affect everyone. In fact, it seems to be dependent on location. On vacation, I was able to send a large message, but I can't when I'm at home.
Can anyone else running CM6 test this to see how it works for you? I know I could switch to Handcent SMS since they have an option to split messages, but I love the look and feel of the AOSP messenger.
I'm having the exact same issue. I'm thinking about getting away from CM6. Too many weird bugs, like the voice mail.
Its a problem with cm6. I use handcent. You can set it in options to split texts unlike the stock in cm6. I thought something was wrong with the rom with freezing or my reception. Its not. Its the SMS program. I also made handcent look like the stock SMS. Instead of the bubbles. No more worring about freezing after I go over. Don't know why there isn't a setting for this in stock or somewhere on phone. Since most if not all the other SMS do this on their own or has a setting for it. Lame...
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You can change alot in handcent. Instead of bubbles can do the threaded style like stock. Change color on everything to match stock. Just wish put a little more space between the messages.. other than that looks the same except the top part where all the messages from everyone you received or sent to is different than stock and can't change. Play around with it. I was exactly like you. Love stock. Even switched to fresh new rom and was on there for few days. Wentbon cm6 topic and someone suggested hamdcent and change the options to look stock. Gave it a try. Not exactly like stock but close and don't worry about freezes..
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You can change alot in handcent. Instead of bubbles can do the threaded style like stock. Change color on everything to match stock. Just wish put a little more space between the messages.. other than that looks the same except the top part where all the messages from everyone you received or sent to is different than stock and can't change. Play around with it. I was exactly like you. Love stock. Even switched to fresh new rom and was on there for few days. Wentbon cm6 topic and someone suggested hamdcent and change the options to look stock. Gave it a try. Not exactly like stock but close and don't worry about freezes..
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Thanks, I will try Handcent now.
Uhg. This has been addressed a million times. It is *not* a bug in CM6. The stock AOSP messenger app *does not split messages* The stock HTC messages does. Handcent does. This is like saying it's a bug that Twiteur doesn't split your tweets up automatically.
I wish they'd add this functionality, sure, but it's NOT a bug.
My advice is to either use a 3rd party app (I don't like any of them, personally,) go back to using a Sense based ROM or to just simply use e-mail if you can't be brief in your SMS messages. Remember, the first S stands for *SHORT*
Just saying.
Cyanogen did NOT like make the messaging app. People keep trying to blame Cyanogen for this and that is incorrect.
Its the stock messaging app for Android. This is not a bug!
I understand some peoples frustration with this but stop blaming cyanogen for this! If you want to blame someone then blame Sprint for using CDMA.
I don't like the fact that the STOCK email app doesn't do exchange HTML email! Do I blame Cyanogen? NO!
I would have to buy Touchdown from the market to have HTML email. Maybe one day CyanogenMod might add it who knows but it is what it is.
Download Handcent or whatever from the market or load another ROM geez!
Having said that there are MANY users myself included that send 160+ txt messages just fine with Cyanogen, myself included. Which would lead me to believe its something not related to the stock messaging app.
MrDSL, I'm using handcent and after the helpful post from other users explaining what was going on, I have corrected the issue. You must admit, that Cyanogen doesn't handle everything perfect. I've flashed Fresh and the rooted Stock and I never had the same issues I've had with Cyanogen, such as the voice mail and the text message limit. So before you think everyone is attacking your bible of a rom, you should take a step back and breathe.
I've read a lot of your post in the past and you are a very helpful person here to everyone, but you shouldn't get so defensive.
Landmine: Fresh and rooted stock are both Sense based roms. CM is an AOSP based rom. The AOSP messaging app does not auto-split sms messages. Cyanogen didn't write the app. As said before, it's not a bug.
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Again, I'm not saying it is a bug with Cyanogen, but stating that you must be able to understand where the idea is coming from when people are using Sense based roms and having issues with Cyanogen.
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MrDSL, I'm using handcent and after the helpful post from other users explaining what was going on, I have corrected the issue. You must admit, that Cyanogen doesn't handle everything perfect. I've flashed Fresh and the rooted Stock and I never had the same issues I've had with Cyanogen, such as the voice mail and the text message limit. So before you think everyone is attacking your bible of a rom, you should take a step back and breathe.
I've read a lot of your post in the past and you are a very helpful person here to everyone, but you shouldn't get so defensive.
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This topic is solely about txt messages over 160..Thats all I have responded to. Does cyanogenmod have problems? Well of course it does I never implied it didn't.
What I am correcting is this is not a bug or a fault of the ROM. Nothing more nothing less.
The only reason this doesn't happen in sense ROM's is because HTC has their own messaging app that seperates them. So using Handcent with cyanogen is no different thats all.
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Again, I'm not saying it is a bug with Cyanogen, but stating that you must be able to understand where the idea is coming from when people are using Sense based roms and having issues with Cyanogen.
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We do and its exactly why we are trying to inform people of the correct information. We may be a bit harsh sometimes I'll give you that
I can't stand the "go send a email" comments. Depending on the words and the size of the words its easy to pass the 160 mark in a text and not really say that much. Unless you do cuz, u, etc.. I like to fully spell words out.. except definitely for some really reason I do def... some people don't really have much to say and just text. While texting you think of more to say or something pops up and keep texting than you would otherwise on the phone. Or its just me everyone is different.
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I can't stand the "go send a email" comments. Depending on the words and the size of the words its easy to pass the 160 mark in a text and not really say that much. Unless you do cuz, u, etc.. I like to fully spell words out.. except definitely for some really reason I do def... some people don't really have much to say and just text. While texting you think of more to say or something pops up and keep texting than you would otherwise on the phone. Or its just me everyone is different.
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I agree ^^
Anyone? It seems no one will ever comment on the posts I make at their forums? I am testing cyanogen 7.1 out for a bit.
Some background info. Doubled wiped everything except sdcard. downloaded a fresh cyanogen 7.1 and flashed it. I have the GPS fix, and the gapps thing flashed with tiamat 4.0.8
So can someone tell me how to either fix this or why it does this?
This is a huge dealbreaker.. It compresses whatever photo i try to attach and it losses quality of the picture... I like the stock android and having to use handcent to send my mms seems like a *WTF* should i do this moment...
Apps like Handcent and Go SMS are better than the stock messaging app anyway. Why would you be willing to throw away the entire ROM over the messaging app when you can use more powerful messaging apps that don't compress the image AND have more customization options?
I've used stock CM, Handcent and Go SMS. By far my favorite one is Go SMS. Way better than the one that comes with CM.
I have used them both. I dislike them. Its just the feel. And the popups I just dislike the whole thing even after i messed with the settings to get rid of what i dont like. The options arent there and i do dislike them.. Also it wont send multiple split messages it freezes my ability top send messages and i need to reboot my phone....
And the Messaging app isn't the only issue.
Btw not my first or second time using CM either..
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I have used them both. I dislike them. Its just the feel. And the popups I just dislike the whole thing even after i messed with the settings to get rid of what i dont like. The options arent there and i do dislike them..
And the Messaging app isn't the only issue.
Btw not my first or second time using CM either..
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Huh? I don't get any pop ups whatsoever on mine. Not quite sure what you mean. And what options are you looking for? Out of all the ROMs I've tried CMseems to have the most flexibility and most customization options. What exactly are you looking for in a ROM? Handcent and Go SMS also provide more flexibility and customization options than the stock messaging app. Let me know what you're looking for and maybe I can point you toward a ROM that fits.
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Huh? I don't get any pop ups whatsoever on mine. Not quite sure what you mean. And what options are you looking for? Out of all the ROMs I've tried CMseems to have the most flexibility and most customization options. What exactly are you looking for in a ROM? Handcent and Go SMS also provide more flexibility and customization options than the stock messaging app. Let me know what you're looking for and maybe I can point you toward a ROM that fits.
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Its not that I'm looking for felxibility i just want to get my mms to stop sending at low resolutions.
It may be the user agent but every one of them makes me receive a pic at 8XX by ^XX resolutions..
I just want the stock one to have correct mms. And preferably a mms with a user agent for my phone or a equivalent phone. I have been searching for days and no one seems to post a fix. All the fixes seem to be for tmo for what i can find :/
Well I understand that you want your stock messaging app to work properly. However, I don't know a means to directly resolve the problem. Test with Handcent/Chomp SMS/Go SMS, reflash your ROM/kernel, update your radio, wimax, nv, etc., and if worse comes to worse....completely unroot your phone back to bone stock. Seems ridiculous that something that drastic is needed to fix your issue. But I did that as a last resort for my phone and it fixed my 2 month long SMS/MMS issue that I had been having.
Here OP try this. Is splits and the limit is big
http://db.tt/eOzGdVB2
Work out for you?
Why do pictures become videos in the messaging system? Is there any way to change this? Thank you in advance.
I'd like to know a solution to this too. One that doesn't involve rooting or installing handcent/go sms/any other 3rd party messaging app.
I believe this cannot be changed. It has been like this on any smartphone I've had (lots of them)
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Why do pictures become videos in the messaging system? Is there any way to change this? Thank you in advance.
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Yeah its really annoying feature in the T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II. The only solution that im aware is using another Messaging App
I'm using Go SMS Pro and its very handing... I definitely suggested over any other 3rd party Messaging App
yea... i wish this phone wasn't like this.. but at same time i love it.
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I believe this cannot be changed. It has been like this on any smartphone I've had (lots of them)
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I've had a few and seen plenty of phones without it. This is a new "feature" to me.
The original Mytouch 4G had this same issue before they rolled out the update (which included a fix for this issue), but since we've already received the update to 2.3.6 on the SGS2 our only hope is ICS if we want to continue using the stock messaging app.. which I happen to prefer.. so yeah I'll just deal with it until ICS.
Hey guys I just want to have people's opinions about the above apps. I have S3 and have been using my stock messaging app with SMSpop up to handle the notifications when I receive texts. Lately I've been reading about these two messaging apps and I have been interested in trying them especially because I want emoji support (I hate my iPhone friends lool). Anyways tell me what messaging app you use and why you love it.
I know what someone will say maybe you should try them out and do research. I have seen review videos for both apps, but I don't really have the time to try them out one by one. I'd rather read reviews than try them.
If I do install a 3rd party messaging app I can keep SMSpop up? Or do the 3rd party apps take care of those functions as well? Such as personalized LED lights per contact and custom text tone for each contact?
thanks for your time and recommendations.
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I also get paranoid installing and deleting things in my phone because if it slows down I feel like the program installed a file that didn't delete when I uninstalled. I know I'm paranoid but I know both apps use ads to support their free version.
I have used handcent on all my android phones. I've tried go sms and chomp sms but I always end up back woth handcent. I don't remember if the other two had pop up text, but handcent does. I'd suggest just try each one for a few days and see which one you like best.
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Honestly... You do have time. Ha. Both handcent and chomp will receive your messages. And it only takes a couple seconds to install... If you install it receive messages and end up not liking it un install and try the other, they're not going anywhere and having it won't halt your daily life. So you absolutely have time to try each out if you desire. And if you watched a lot of video reviews some of these questions should have been answered... Personally I used to always use handcent mostly because of the feature to use a password to access texts. But I also like it as a texting app
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iSchadenfreude said:
Hey guys I just want to have people's opinions about the above apps. I have S3 and have been using my stock messaging app with SMSpop up to handle the notifications when I receive texts. Lately I've been reading about these two messaging apps and I have been interested in trying them especially because I want emoji support (I hate my iPhone friends lool). Anyways tell me what messaging app you use and why you love it.
I know what someone will say maybe you should try them out and do research. I have seen review videos for both apps, but I don't really have the time to try them out one by one. I'd rather read reviews than try them.
If I do install a 3rd party messaging app I can keep SMSpop up? Or do the 3rd party apps take care of those functions as well? Such as personalized LED lights per contact and custom text tone for each contact?
thanks for your time and recommendations.
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I also get paranoid installing and deleting things in my phone because if it slows down I feel like the program installed a file that didn't delete when I uninstalled. I know I'm paranoid but I know both apps use ads to support their free version.
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Used Handcent for a long time, but then my wife got an HTC 8x (Windows mobile) and my daughter an iPhone 5 w iOS6, and neither of them could see my emojis; I tried all three " how to encode emojis" settings in Handcent, none made a difference. Even though including emojis isn't exactly a deal breaker , I like fiddling with apps so I tried Go SMS Pro - worked fine with emojis, but access to Quick Text was cumbersome (needed several taps). So now I am using chompSMS - emojis work fine, access to quick text is easy (though it's called "templates"). The only thing I don't like is that all three SMS apps have outgoing messages on the right, incoming on the left. For some reason (don't really understand it myself !!) I prefer it the other way around. You can make that switch in Handcent & Go, but not in chomp.....
I honestly don't recommend any of the above apps unless you have a slow phone. I'd use GO SMS Pro, fully featured and flies off the handle. It pops up text messages too, and has a free add on where you can use and see all iOS 6 emojis.
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Are you rooted? If you are just use this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1922104
I don't know what happens when you flash straight up but I manually unzipped on phone and placed files in correct location while backing up originals. This will give emoji in stock app so you can your current setup and still have emoji!
I have used handcent for a long time on many different devices. I have tried other apps, GoSMS and Chomp, and have always returned to handcent. I like the privacy inbox and the fact that it does not run as a service like GoSMS. I do like GoSMS, but find it ridiculous that you can not disable it as a service.
Also, handcent has a setting to change its priority allowing security and location apps like Cerberus and Androidlost to work properly.
Thanks guys
I've used all of them for a while now. I decided to stick with Chomp sms its basic but works really well hasn't crashed and my battery has seen no change. Even MMS I feared would appear when I used this app did not surface so overall it was a nice experience and I am sticking to it. I wish I had more friends so I could test out the group message but if its something I don't use a lot I am not gonna worry if it works 100% correctly.
IMO GO SMS is the best for functionality and themes. Only thing I don't like about it is that every time I send MMS is resizes the crap out of it whereas stock handles it pretty good but then again it could be my fault for not changing or changing something in the settings.
i use handcent as well. love the popup even on the lock screen. you can read and reply without unlocking your phone, good assortment of themes and lots of settings
chompsms. The rest either don't work or full boatware (cough cough go sms)
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chompsms. The rest either don't work or full boatware (cough cough go sms)
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I heard rumors about that as well. I also heard GoSms isn't optimized for OS higher than Android Ginger Bread...
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chompsms. The rest either don't work or full boatware (cough cough go sms)
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+1. Never had any issues with Chomp. And the main person I text (my wife) has an iPhone 4s that I jailbroke and is running Chomp's iOS version which is a jailbroken app called BiteSMS. Emojis/MMS work perfect between the two of us.
I'll just leave this here...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.contapps.android.messaging
I've read mixed reviews of messages +. What do you find so good about it? I use the stock tw messaging app right now.
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I've read mixed reviews of messages +. What do you find so good about it? I use the stock tw messaging app right now.
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I've used stock mms since I got my phone, and believe me I tried gosms as well as handcent but I still kept going back to stock. gosms was too bloaty like a previous poster mentioned while handcent has that ugly gingerbread feel to it. stock looks and feels slick and has just the right amount of customization and not overloaded with features like gosms.
Then i tried messages+ (in addition to contacts/dialer/call log+) and oh man. It has the same slickness as stock and I just really love the UI. its not laggy at all, it feels as though this should have been the stock mms app. Oh and it has the AOSP popup feature.
everyone is entitled to their opinion and this is mine. if your a day over 15 and you use a stupid sms replacement then you need to look deep into your soul because this is srs bizns.
the simplicity and beauty of aosp's app is what set's it apart. if google could do anything to improve it i would be impressed because imo its perfect
the other ones are garbage. not even a fair comparison because the other one's are for children.
GO SMS ftw. And yes it does have pop up text and its very customizable.
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I personally use GoSMS. It has a few features that other's do NOT... Like the ability to have seperate & customizable MMS receive settings (mmsc, proxy, port, etc) custom user agent, and change the way it resizes MMS pictures and what the maximum size can be - all separately and independently from the stock mms app.
It does have pop up notification, custom status bar icons for individual contacts, custom individual message tones.... very nice. And its themeable which I do like...
I can't speak of handscent... but I will say this, I was an iPhone user for 4+ years before my current GS3, and on the iPhone BiteSMS is kind, which IS ChompSMS on android -- and I tried it but overall liked GoSMS better... I can't speak of the service running, etc... I will say MOST of the themes cost money, so that sucks - and I use the free ones.
I'm on T-mobile USA, and the NETWORK limits MMS to 300k - plain and simple, so regardless of anything else, your image is going to be resized by the network to 300k regardless what app you use.... (unless something has changed recently on T-mobile network). Another advantage of GoSMS is the customizable UAPROF (user agent) --- This is the string the phone sends to the network server telling HOW to deliver the MMS to your device. The wrong UAPROF results in crappy images. The RIGHT UAPROF results in very nice images. THIS IS A BIG FACTOR IN QUALITY OF MMS - ESPECIALLY IF YOUR USING UNLOCKED PHONES OR NON-BRANDED PHONES ON CERTAIN NETWORKS.... That *ALONE* makes GoSMS worth it (depending on your phone & network combination)
ChompSMS was fine, I just liked GoSMS better for whatever the reason? they're pretty much the same (minus the customizable settings in GoSMS). Now that I'm using a T-mobile branded phone on the T-mobile network, none of the custom settings matter anymore, and if I use the stock mms/messaging app on my current custom rom (darthstalker) I am able to send MMS over wifi just like sending over data. Also receive over wifi....
* RANT *
Why I hate the default messaging/mms app.................. When I get a picture, it plays as a slideshow in a tiny preview unless I save it and view in gallery. UNACCEPTABLE. GoSMS doesn't do that.... I get a picture and I see it using the default viewer - in full screen. NOT AS A SLIDE SHOW. If the default app would do this, I'd probably be using it with some kind of smspopup tweak.
/rant
Believe this thread has served it's purpose.