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[Q] desire just let me down big time - gps?

was trying to walk to the shops and record the walk (my tracks) and listen to some music on the way. was about a 15 min walk all in al. during this time i lost 14% battery life.
gps wouldn't lock on, which means it's constantly searching., i was waiting for a lock whiich means the screens all the whole time. the sun comes out which means i turn the screen brightness on max.
this sucks. i've had probs with the desires gps in the past but nowhere this bad.
now, is there a site that will review the gps aspect of smartphones? i mean, i presume a lot of us have android phones for the free satnav, google maps etc? without a great gps system in the phone then all of those things are useless. this is why i will never get a samsung phone.
i think next time, the gps of the phone will be the deciding factor. i'm using this far more than i thought i ever would.

I also had problems with gps.
Try to pull out battery, left phone without it for about 5 minutes. Next go out and get lock via using maps (and don't move, stay in place after turning on gps). It may take some time (some people reported that it took about 20min, I was waiting about 5). Now gps works like charm.
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What ROM and radio are you using? I have noticed that any radio older than the latest one with HD ROMs tend to give bad GPS performance. In the past I've let My Tracks run for over 3 hours and it tracked my movements fine, in those 3 hours I was in a building for about 30 minutes and it lost its battery fastest in those 30 minutes presumably trying to find a fix. Honestly Desire is the best GPS unit I've ever had, it is better than one of the older dedicated navigation unit I had.

I agree re GPS. I drove for 2hours using my GPS without a car charger and I lost 80% of my battery in that time. I realise now that any trip using navigation has to be plugged to car charger or very selective use of GPS.

KaidM said:
I agree re GPS. I drove for 2hours using my GPS without a car charger and I lost 80% of my battery in that time. I realise now that any trip using navigation has to be plugged to car charger or very selective use of GPS.
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So your phone can navigate you on a full charge more than your car can drive on a full tank and you complain about the phone??? WTF! People really have strange / unrealistic expectations...

pascanu said:
So your phone can navigate you on a full charge more than your car can drive on a full tank and you complain about the phone??? WTF! People really have strange / unrealistic expectations...
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You should stop driving like a mental. it is realistic for a tank of gas to last more than two hours.

KaidM said:
I agree re GPS. I drove for 2hours using my GPS without a car charger and I lost 80% of my battery in that time. I realise now that any trip using navigation has to be plugged to car charger or very selective use of GPS.
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Were you using Google Locations + Screen on? If so I'm not surprised.

Any GPS navigation I came across was always using the CPU a lot hence the fast battery drain.
If GPS does not want to lock it needs a cold restart- using GPS Tools. Alternatively restarting the phone will do the same. I found that the GPS tends not to lock in urban areas but restarting the phone always helped- for the day.

pascanu said:
So your phone can navigate you on a full charge more than your car can drive on a full tank and you complain about the phone??? WTF! People really have strange / unrealistic expectations...
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What do you drive? a space shuttle?!
@op : the battery drain is not only normal, its actually good..my sister's ip3gs can't even get her through 1 hour of naigation..my revious hd2 gave me low battery warning around an hour and 20 minutes (but that had the huge screen to blame for that)..you can very cheaply get a car charger and even get free screen protectors as gift from amazon or ebay..

'normal' is as far as HTC / android phones are concern.. it seems that in car charger is a must.
in contrast, the nokia E52 i have, lasted at least 5 to 6 hours navigation at the very least, with screen on always..

Using your phone as a gps in the car will drain the battery but not because of the gps but because you have a 3.7 inch screen on all the time, and if during the day, at full brightness. I think a couple of hours in those conditions for any phone with a large quality screen is more than reasonable!!
I use "cardio trainer" to track my runs when i go out, i tracks me all the way without a hickup and i am listening to musing all the time as well and in 1h it will only go down 10% so gps doesn't drain battery it's the screen.
Sometimes when i go out i also have problems getting a fix but it's just a question of closing "cardio trainer" turning gps off then on again, wait 5 seconds and then turn "cardio trainer" back on; works every time!!!!! Desire has a really good gps!!
PS: i'm on stock unbranded froyo

SimpleNick said:
'normal' is as far as HTC / android phones are concern.. it seems that in car charger is a must.
in contrast, the nokia E52 i have, lasted at least 5 to 6 hours navigation at the very least, with screen on always..
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u comparing oranges to uhmm..water mellon powered nuclear reactors lol...nokia e52 has a lousy 2.4 inch display..so right off the bat desire has +50% + larger screen surface...plus navigating by watching a screen THAT small is truly dangerous as well..

I've had different experiences with the GPS in my Desire. It was able to lock my position when travelling in a train going 180km/h, on a rainy day (no visible sky at all) in Google Maps (that dot was moving FAST! ).
But sometimes it fails completely to lock my position, and this has happened on both days with completely clear sky and cloudy days. But it usually works. Restarting the device helps.

zlayaa said:
I've had different experiences with the GPS in my Desire. It was able to lock my position when travelling in a train going 180km/h, on a rainy day (no visible sky at all) in Google Maps (that dot was moving FAST! ).
But sometimes it fails completely to lock my position, and this has happened on both days with completely clear sky and cloudy days. But it usually works. Restarting the device helps.
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maybe there were solar flares

I had similar GPS issues with my Desire, couldn't get a fix at all / waited around 30 mins on couple of occasions. Then I tried this gps assist app, works similar to the one I had on my touch HD / winmo.
Now I get a fix with iGo in a 2-3 seconds
The app name is GPS status and toolbox
Code:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/gps-status-toolbox/com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2

chris2busy said:
What do you drive? a space shuttle?!.
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Jup i lol'ed
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I use gps status (free from market) if not moving I get a fix in about 2-7 seconds even at home.
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Random switch offs.

I've had 2 replacement phones in my 1st month of having a Gnex.
Just then I had a random turn off. Normal or not?? No rooting, no unlocking fully stock 4.0.2. Wtf?? I just thought yay!, everything is going to OK then bang. Not cool. Might be normal but I doubt it...
Thanks guys.
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This happened to me last night.
I wasn't using the phone, it was just on the table charging.
Not sure what's up.

Do we have faulty units?
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I guess it depends on how often it is happening.
I've had my phone for two months now and I believe this is the second time it happened.
As long as it doesn't happen too often and not during a ROM flash, I can live with it.

Yeah, that's the problem though isn't it. Random. It could be when your flashing a rom, or in a phone call. That'd be ****.
I dunno, why do these things happen?
Don't Google test things? Its not real stable is it. There should never be any problems if its a full release.
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Do you notice if the phone is hot when this happens?

Daveg891 said:
Do you notice if the phone is hot when this happens?
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Nah not at all. Its happened twice since in had it. Once when the battery was at like 6% on its first run down of the battery when I got it. Then on it's first charge. It was at about 80% and I was just swiping left and right and I think bringing the notification drawer down (which doesn't work sometimes, I have another thread on that) and it just turned off. I pressed the power button a few times and it finally turned on with a 10% ish battery drop. That's it though, not again yet. May of been a battery conditioning thing.
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Sprint Galaxy Nexus Overheating

I'm hoping you all might be able to help me. I am having overheating problems with my new Nexus. I have found that any time I have my Nexus charging in my car and my navigation running such that the screen is on, within 10 minutes the battery starts to overheat and the phone stops charging. Through testing and trial & error, here is what I have found.
1. If the phone is charging while using navigation and the screen is on, it will overheat such that it stops charging.
2. If the phone is charging while using navigation and the screen is off, it will NOT overheat.
3. The first two are true whether other radios are turned on (wifi, bluetooth, etc) or not, doesn't matter.
4. If the phone is just charging it is fine.
5. Switching ROMs doesn't help.
6. Also happens with the stock battery and the Seidio extended battery.
7. Happens whether I have the screen brightness on the highest setting or the lowest.
Basically, what I it has come down to, I can't use navigation with the screen on.....which kind of defeats the purpose.
Has anyone else had similar issues?
I am currently running Are-You-Jellin-M1

Reported to be moved to Q&A where this should have been.
Onto the question. Seems like navigation is a really CPU and GPS intensive activity so I would say keep it off the charger.... just doing normal things this phone will heat up and I'm in WiFi. And being on 3G that thing will cook your hand. Only thing I would say is keep it off the charger... and change the timeout for the screen which usually navigation will keep the screen on.
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ÜBER™ said:
Reported to be moved to Q&A where this should have been.
Onto the question. Seems like navigation is a really CPU and GPS intensive activity so I would say keep it off the charger.... just doing normal things this phone will heat up and I'm in WiFi. And being on 3G that thing will cook your hand. Only thing I would say is keep it off the charger... and change the timeout for the screen which usually navigation will keep the screen on.
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Sure, but the phone is such a battery hog that you go anywhere and then you are without a phone. Then, how do you navigate back.... Navigation is one of the biggest reasons I have a smart phone. I find it absurd that this phone can't use one of it's most important features while charging.

Take your phone back to stock and do the same thing you were doing to overheat your phone. If it still gets REALLY HOT you might need to take your phone in for an exchange. My first nexus had a heating issue and I had to exchange it. It will get warm when using GPS but not so hot your phone acts up. You might also try using a different kernal with hour ROM as well.
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tibman260 said:
Sure, but the phone is such a battery hog that you go anywhere and then you are without a phone. Then, how do you navigate back.... Navigation is one of the biggest reasons I have a smart phone. I find it absurd that this phone can't use one of it's most important features while charging.
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You do realize these are dual cores... more cores... more heat. You could possibly have an issue ... and its not a battery hog... had to use Nav this last weekend and it did great. Only lost around ±20% which is not bad using 3G and listening to music with it as well. However I use custom kernels which are undervolted far more than the stock KERNEL.
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Just do a warranty exchange in your carriers store. I use GPS all the time while charging and it doesn't heat up. Best advice I can give you. I'm on the same ROM as you also.
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What was the temperature outside? Also is your phone in direct sunlight?
The Chicago region has been getting 95°F+ temps, and just from my drive home to work with the A/C on, I have to put my phone in my lunch cooler so it will charge.
You're phone, just sitting idle in direct sunlight on a 90°F day, will heat up your battery past it's 49°C overheat condition within 5 minutes.

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Relative temps outside have been cool. I tried on my way into work this morning with a different rom and the temp outside was 75 max and there wasn't any sunlight hitting the phone.
I even tried blasting the air by holding the phone up to the vent and it didn't help. The only way I have found it to cool back down is to turn off the screen.

tibman260 said:
Relative temps outside have been cool. I tried on my way into work this morning with a different rom and the temp outside was 75 max and there wasn't any sunlight hitting the phone.
I even tried blasting the air by holding the phone up to the vent and it didn't help. The only way I have found it to cool back down is to turn off the screen.
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Exchange it.
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Boot Loader solving my over heating problem
I was getting some crazy over heating issues especially when I would try
to do a backup using TWRP recovery my screen would even turn odd colors.
I am running a JB CM10 rom and I have been using the ICS boot loader because it
didn't seem to be causing me much problems. I recently decided to change my
boot loader and all of my over heating issues have gone away.

[Q] Major battery life issues

Ok so I've had my GN2 for about a month now. For the first 2 weeks I could easily go all day on moderate to heavy use. Over the past week and a half however my battery has just started to drain so quickly. I get up at 630am with 100 percent battery life and by 9 I have only 75 percent. This is with only browsing my email checking the news and playing a couple songs through Google Music. Does anybody have any ideas as to what might be wrong with my phone? Am I alone with this?
UPDATE: This actually just happened as I was typing this and has happened twice today. The phone goes through the shutdown screen with the Samsung logo stays black for about 3 seconds then started back up.

jbostrom15 said:
Ok so I've had my GN2 for about a month now. For the first 2 weeks I could easily go all day on moderate to heavy use. Over the past week and a half however my battery has just started to drain so quickly. I get up at 630am with 100 percent battery life and by 9 I have only 75 percent. This is with only browsing my email checking the news and playing a couple songs through Google Music. Does anybody have any ideas as to what might be wrong with my phone? Am I alone with this?
UPDATE: This actually just happened as I was typing this and has happened twice today. The phone goes through the shutdown screen with the Samsung logo stays black for about 3 seconds then started back up.
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what ROM are you running?
what kernel?
have you installed any apps lately that might be running in the background taking up a lot of resources?

I see someone else asked what rom you are using, but assuming you are stock, as I am, I have had a similar battery problem. I tried turning off several native apps, and other things without any improvement. I'm with Sprint and was also being randomly dropped from the network, requiring restarts. I called tech support and was about to get the phone replaced, but they required trying a master reset before doing so. That's what I did (with the hardware buttons, not through the software menu), and to my amazement, my phone is better than new! Battery life is what it should be - excellent, and other problems disappeared as well. Just a thought.
jbostrom15 said:
Ok so I've had my GN2 for about a month now. For the first 2 weeks I could easily go all day on moderate to heavy use. Over the past week and a half however my battery has just started to drain so quickly. I get up at 630am with 100 percent battery life and by 9 I have only 75 percent. This is with only browsing my email checking the news and playing a couple songs through Google Music. Does anybody have any ideas as to what might be wrong with my phone? Am I alone with this?
UPDATE: This actually just happened as I was typing this and has happened twice today. The phone goes through the shutdown screen with the Samsung logo stays black for about 3 seconds then started back up.
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kat3k said:
I see someone else asked what rom you are using, but assuming you are stock, as I am, I have had a similar battery problem. I tried turning off several native apps, and other things without any improvement. I'm with Sprint and was also being randomly dropped from the network, requiring restarts. I called tech support and was about to get the phone replaced, but they required trying a master reset before doing so. That's what I did (with the hardware buttons, not through the software menu), and to my amazement, my phone is better than new! Battery life is what it should be - excellent, and other problems disappeared as well. Just a thought.
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What is the combination of buttons for a hard reset

Seems to me it's up&down volume buttons at the same time; power button; home button. You might want to search that to confirm.
jbostrom15 said:
What is the combination of buttons for a hard reset
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kat3k said:
Seems to me it's up&down volume buttons at the same time; power button; home button. You might want to search that to confirm.
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That didn't work. I've been searching and trying to hard reset but it won't let me

Download Better Battery Stats and see what it tell you about your partial wakelocks. Something(s) are keeping your phone from Deep Sleep.

Skripka said:
Download Better Battery Stats and see what it tell you about your partial wakelocks. Something(s) are keeping your phone from Deep Sleep.
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Is there any other way to figure out what is keeping my phone like this that doesn't involve having to buy a 3 dollar app

Solving your problem isn't worth 3 of your dollars yet it's worth more of someone elses time or effort?
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KEYofR said:
Solving your problem isn't worth 3 of your dollars yet it's worth more of someone elses time or effort?
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It's just that I've tried a bunch of apps so far and none have helped

KEYofR said:
Solving your problem isn't worth 3 of your dollars yet it's worth more of someone elses time or effort?
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It's just that I've tried a bunch of apps so far and none have helped
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You're aware that BBS is on XDA as freeware for download, last I knew....Come to think of it...you're not. It is a great tool, well worth the $3USD they charge, and that says alot due to all the $3-5 apps out there that are next to worthless.

[Q] Smart stay - yay or nay

so I have just recently purchased my note8 and Im still trying to get the hang of it. I notice that I frequently qet message saying that the smart stay can't detect my eyes.
I also notice that I rarely see the eye icon lights up (I assume its there to indicate that the feature is active).and one time, the screen went blank just right after the eye lit up.
maybe, speaking from my limited exp, just maybe, the smart stay works better on devices with smaller display as the variance of the eyes/ face orientation will be much smaller compared to on an 8"device.
While I understand the benefits, the question is how many of you find this feature reliable on this tablet? pls feel free to share your experience on how it performs on smaller devices.
Im thinking I might as well turn it off in exchange for some extra battery life.
thanks / Luke

Can't share any experience using this feature as turning it off was the very first thing I did after purchasing my device
I think the drain should be way too high since it uses the front camera all the time, doesn't it? Anyway, it happens maybe once a week that the display turns off when I'm actually looking at it - at most. And just before the display turning off it dims the screen, so there is still some time to react..
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I find it doesn't work as well in the dark as my GS3 did under earlier firmware and I do often get the icon. But smart stay does work well for me. Unless I'm laying down on my side.
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It checks every 15 seconds of inactivity to see if you're still looking at the screen. If you're not according to your front camera, it'll dim/shut the screen.
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rani9990 said:
It checks every 15 seconds of inactivity to see if you're still looking at the screen. If you're not according to your front camera, it'll dim/shut the screen.
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Mine only checks a few seconds before the screen is set to time out. Ie. If the screen is set to stay on for 2 minutes, it will check at about 1:50 of inactivity.
I kind of like it except, as posted above, it can be a little iffy in low light.
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I really think it is almost completely useless and simply a waste of battery. I've also disabled lock screen. Nobody touches this tablet but me. When I use it I want it instant on, and when I'm done I turn the screen off myself. I hate my devices trying to decide for themselves when to switch off, and first thing I always TAKE THE POWER BACK!

Thanks for the feedback everyone. l have been trying it off and on but at the end I would have to agree that it doesn't work for me. I cant say how much power saving I get by turning it off but it feels good to know that some resources are relieved for something else.

I use it on my note 2 (8 months now) and note 8.... it doesn't burn much battery.... it works better on the note 2 because your face is exactly straight on the camera... On the tablet.. Usually we hold it slightly at an angle.. So the camera sometimes misses off
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I think its a great (good) feature.

HANSB57 said:
I think its a great (good) feature.
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yeah I like it too. I usually only use it when reading on the kobo app but it does come in handy.

I really like it but not it is not as good on the note 8 as it is one the other Samsung galaxy devices I have
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After reading this topic, I charged my Note 2 and disabled this feature to try to get more bvattery life.
The difference is like night and day. The screen consumes a lot less power (according to the JB's Battery widget) and the battery lasts much longer.

i've never used this on any of my devices. i always seem to have this odd habit of turning off electronics when i'm not using them

A big NAY for me, I just haven't been able to get it to work even a single time, keep getting the "Smart stay cannot detect your Eyes" message again.
Is it that bad, even in other device like the S3 or S4? S4 has so many features(like the smart pause based on it, makes me think I can't use it properly), any tips how to better the usability(other than the usual ones given by Samsung)?