I'm hoping you all might be able to help me. I am having overheating problems with my new Nexus. I have found that any time I have my Nexus charging in my car and my navigation running such that the screen is on, within 10 minutes the battery starts to overheat and the phone stops charging. Through testing and trial & error, here is what I have found.
1. If the phone is charging while using navigation and the screen is on, it will overheat such that it stops charging.
2. If the phone is charging while using navigation and the screen is off, it will NOT overheat.
3. The first two are true whether other radios are turned on (wifi, bluetooth, etc) or not, doesn't matter.
4. If the phone is just charging it is fine.
5. Switching ROMs doesn't help.
6. Also happens with the stock battery and the Seidio extended battery.
7. Happens whether I have the screen brightness on the highest setting or the lowest.
Basically, what I it has come down to, I can't use navigation with the screen on.....which kind of defeats the purpose.
Has anyone else had similar issues?
I am currently running Are-You-Jellin-M1
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Onto the question. Seems like navigation is a really CPU and GPS intensive activity so I would say keep it off the charger.... just doing normal things this phone will heat up and I'm in WiFi. And being on 3G that thing will cook your hand. Only thing I would say is keep it off the charger... and change the timeout for the screen which usually navigation will keep the screen on.
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ÜBER™ said:
Reported to be moved to Q&A where this should have been.
Onto the question. Seems like navigation is a really CPU and GPS intensive activity so I would say keep it off the charger.... just doing normal things this phone will heat up and I'm in WiFi. And being on 3G that thing will cook your hand. Only thing I would say is keep it off the charger... and change the timeout for the screen which usually navigation will keep the screen on.
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Sure, but the phone is such a battery hog that you go anywhere and then you are without a phone. Then, how do you navigate back.... Navigation is one of the biggest reasons I have a smart phone. I find it absurd that this phone can't use one of it's most important features while charging.
Take your phone back to stock and do the same thing you were doing to overheat your phone. If it still gets REALLY HOT you might need to take your phone in for an exchange. My first nexus had a heating issue and I had to exchange it. It will get warm when using GPS but not so hot your phone acts up. You might also try using a different kernal with hour ROM as well.
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tibman260 said:
Sure, but the phone is such a battery hog that you go anywhere and then you are without a phone. Then, how do you navigate back.... Navigation is one of the biggest reasons I have a smart phone. I find it absurd that this phone can't use one of it's most important features while charging.
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You do realize these are dual cores... more cores... more heat. You could possibly have an issue ... and its not a battery hog... had to use Nav this last weekend and it did great. Only lost around ±20% which is not bad using 3G and listening to music with it as well. However I use custom kernels which are undervolted far more than the stock KERNEL.
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Just do a warranty exchange in your carriers store. I use GPS all the time while charging and it doesn't heat up. Best advice I can give you. I'm on the same ROM as you also.
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What was the temperature outside? Also is your phone in direct sunlight?
The Chicago region has been getting 95°F+ temps, and just from my drive home to work with the A/C on, I have to put my phone in my lunch cooler so it will charge.
You're phone, just sitting idle in direct sunlight on a 90°F day, will heat up your battery past it's 49°C overheat condition within 5 minutes.
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Relative temps outside have been cool. I tried on my way into work this morning with a different rom and the temp outside was 75 max and there wasn't any sunlight hitting the phone.
I even tried blasting the air by holding the phone up to the vent and it didn't help. The only way I have found it to cool back down is to turn off the screen.
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Relative temps outside have been cool. I tried on my way into work this morning with a different rom and the temp outside was 75 max and there wasn't any sunlight hitting the phone.
I even tried blasting the air by holding the phone up to the vent and it didn't help. The only way I have found it to cool back down is to turn off the screen.
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Exchange it.
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Boot Loader solving my over heating problem
I was getting some crazy over heating issues especially when I would try
to do a backup using TWRP recovery my screen would even turn odd colors.
I am running a JB CM10 rom and I have been using the ICS boot loader because it
didn't seem to be causing me much problems. I recently decided to change my
boot loader and all of my over heating issues have gone away.
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My wife's Epic 4G was working fine yesterday but today it crashed and overheated pretty severely. When it was still plugged in and crashing it showed the battery charging and then it turned yellow and show a yellow warning triangle with a thermometer beside it, is the phone going to stop working on us?
I would appreciate a quick response so I can take it to Sprint and see what they can do about it.
I just factory reset it to insure that it wasn't a rogue application or what not and the phone is still running slow, not as bad as when it was crashing, but it still works so I don't know what's going on with it.
Also the phone is stock and has always been stock without root or any other type of hacking, etc.
It just stooped working perfectly one minute.
She showed me that the screen was blinking rapidly in an up and down bar fashion on the home screen and during applications.
First of all how old is the phone. My phone runs games hot all the time and never crashes (well sometimes, but usually when im not even doing anything with it).
I would think that the video is going out on it and it is rebooting. Depending on the age I think your phone is dead dude.
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Not a year yet, it'll be a year old in June or July. I'm hoping it was just a virus or something because its working now. Should I exchange it anyway?
Nabbu eats your face.
Try flashing it back to stock or wipe the data if it isn't already rooted. I've never heard of anything of this sort... need some screenshots or something.
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It's already stock.
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Try flashing it back to stock or wipe the data if it isn't already rooted. I've never heard of anything of this sort... need some screenshots or something.
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I already factory reset it and it's running right now as if it were just fine but what I'm wondering is if it's going to happen again and not work afterwards.
I'm thinking about taking it in to Sprint and exchanging it but I'm afraid there might be fees for exchanging or what not. The phone has been dropped multiple times but it never had any issues before.
The drop distance has been less then 2 feet every time.
No water damage to the phone itself but the Sprint tech said the battery's "water damage" indicator was activated and showing water damage.
The phone HAS been in the bathroom during multiple showers which might be the cause for the battery's damage indicator to go off but the phone, like I said, has never had any issues.
She downloads pretty much everything from the Market so I was suspecting viruses or malware and now it's "clean" it's running fine.
Any suggestions for where I should go from here?
The phone should be fine. This has happened to me a few times.... if your phone gets extremely hot it will refuse to charge as a safety feature and show that yellow triangle thing... open the back of the phone take the battery out and let it cool down.
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That's the best advice i've gotten on here! Thanks a ton! ^^b
Nabbu eats your face.
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Try flashing it back to stock or wipe the data if it isn't already rooted. I've never heard of anything of this sort... need some screenshots or something.
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Happened to me my battery got near 118*F so I took it out and let it cool on some aluminum and put it back in was fine
BTW you can't take a screenie because phone shuts it self off
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I'm guessing that the overheating problem had to do with a buggy app that was running on the phone and took lots of data or cpu time. This has also been know to happen when running wifi hotspot apps.
Regardless, like everyone else said the phone went into thermal protection mode. The battery got hot and it wouldn't charge the battery until it cooled down.
Could be the screen being on and maybe running a governor such as "performance"? Also, I've left my phone under a pillow charging, woke up it was 110F and I haven't had this problem it mustve been really hot
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Fire n mage said:
Could be the screen being on and maybe running a governor such as "performance"? Also, I've left my phone under a pillow charging, woke up it was 110F and I haven't had this problem it mustve been really hot
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phone on the charger while doing things stir up more heat than normal as well.
plus i just had mine on the charger and for five minutes i was listening to tune in radio streaming over wifi and playing lets golf 3 and got off and phone was at 109.4*F Battery heat
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I'm guessing that the overheating problem had to do with a buggy app that was running on the phone and took lots of data or cpu time.
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THIS! ^^^ Without looking at your phone, I'm guessing this was the culprit. She had a buggy/defunct app that was probably frozen in the background while still sucking CPU/RAM. I've had a few of those instances and it DEFINITELY increases the temperature of the phone.
Only other thing I can think of is if she runs her phone at the brightest setting and has a long timeout on the screen timeout. Either way, I think it's nothing a little spring cleaning of the apps and tweaking couldn't take care of. Good luck buddy
Hi out there,
i bought my GNEX a few weaks ago, and its awsome. But there are a few minor things, i realy hate. One of these was the heat problem. My GNEX gets realy hot near the cam where the SOC is. I was just browsing a few min or ideling through Android and i could feel it.
Im using liqiudsmooth and franco kernel and Nova Launcher.
First thing i did to solve the problem was undervolting.
Im now an this stats:
1344 MHz 1200mV
1288MHz 1125mV
1036MHz 1025mV
729MHz 925mV
384MHz 825mV
That helped a little bit, but not that much. Than i donwloaded the app Usage timelines (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hbHMudXNhZ2V0aW1lbGluZXMiXQ..)
i found that the Nova Laucher was using 50% of the cpu in idle and 60-70% when heavily used.
I restartet and reinstall, but no change. Since i switched back to the stock Launcher i have no more heat problems.
So may that can help
cya beamer
Useful info, however, one has to question your complaint of excessive heat when you're overclocking, kinda comes with the territory don't you think
Thats true
but i wasnt overclocking, i set the maxx speed to 1228, which is only 28MHz more than stock, so ther should be now difference. Another point is, the stock voltages of 1228 and 1384 MHz are equal at 1350mV.
HeHe!
I saw 1344 so was natural to assume o/c, I am completely stock on mine and mine barely warms up much, not that i've noticed anyway. However, I have come straight from a 0ne X back to a Gnex, and that used to really heat up. It was like having a bipolar phone. Sipped at the juice when on standby and raped the battery when on lol. BTW, Gnex is a way better device despite the specs difference.
Do you use the stock laucher?
yeah Onex looks realy nice, but it cost 550€, akku drains fast etc. Also i dont want to have a mobile toaster in my pants.
I was tempted to it by the specs of course, and it is a good device on the whole, but is riddled with unacceptable bugs. I got the opportunity to get my hands on a mint Nexus S and set about getting it up to date and onto 4.0.4 with the intention of using it as a backup phone. However, the more i used it, the more I liked it, and despite it being less than a quarter as powerful as the One x, it was smoother to use in the UI. It really got me tempted to get a Gnex again as my daily driver, so I did, and I'm not shifting back now, not till the next Nexus phone comes out.
Oh, and my Gnex is 100% Stock, non rooted, pure untouched google goodness
If it ain't broke don't try to fix it I say. And it works just fine for me the way it is...
My phone gets VERY hot during charging + streaming music via bluetooth and + gps with navigation running w/ screen on
i am on AOKP + Franco kernel. and using Apex launcher
will try undervolting i guess
Yes ure right, noot a quad or hexa or dekacore or a 59713546inch Display make a good Phone.
I has to be a good partner in daily use, u can rely on, and thats the nexus.
Back to the heat problems:
May there some other people out there, who have problems, that would be nice to hear ur experiences
kolyan said:
My phone gets VERY hot during charging + streaming music via bluetooth and + gps with navigation running w/ screen on
i am on AOKP + Franco kernel. and using Apex launcher
will try undervolting i guess
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Go ahead. That usage will make the device run hot regardless.
Absolutely, it's cost me a fortune in android phones to realise that. Anyway, for what it's worth, and to stray back on topic (apologies for that) mine, on stock, only gets mildly warm.
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Go ahead. That usage will make the device run hot regardless.
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Thats right, does it get hot in normal use too?
i think undervolt is an option but not the solution.
Another option may is to use only USB charge if u want to use the Phone while charging
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Thats right, does it get hot in normal use too?
i think undervolt is an option but not the solution.
Another option may is to use only USB charge if u want to use the Phone while charging
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Not if you're using the GPS - reportedly usb charging isn't fast enough to keep up (not tried it myself since my car charger works as ac)
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Not if you're using the GPS - reportedly usb charging isn't fast enough to keep up (not tried it myself since my car charger works as ac)
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Dude I can't even keep up with a wall charger if streaming live TV from the web and it gets hot as h*ll but it doesn't turn off or skip a beat so I let it roll I have warranty and insurance so I don't really care just saying streaming live TV and plugged into wall charger won't keep up I'm on aokp 35 and stock aokp kernel
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I think in this case undervolting is the only possibility. I dont know how fluidly the GNEX handle Maps or streaming etc when the max core speed is reduces to 1000 or 700MHz. May it will do ok and dont get too hot.
As long as the phone isn't ridiculously hot to touch you should be fine with it getting hot for 5-10min. Any longer and you actually might have an issue. If it burns a hole....well then...ya...ha.
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Hi Smokeey, you may right that when the nexus get hot for a few min, its in the short run no big issue. But hot means high akku drain which u want to avoid normaly.
Im working in a company who handle these special display adhesives and over a longer time the heat can cause yellow areas, which i dont want to have.
Beside that i dont like it to hold a device in my Hand which is so hot
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Hi Smokeey, you may right that when the nexus get hot for a few min, its in the short run no big issue. But hot means high akku drain which u want to avoid normaly.
Im working in a company who handle these special display adhesives and over a longer time the heat can cause yellow areas, which i dont want to have.
Beside that i dont like it to hold a device in my Hand which is so hot
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In case anyone was curious like me, akku = battery.
adrynalyne said:
In case anyone was curious like me, akku = battery.
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I thought akku was the bad guy in samurai jack?
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It seems to me that my gnex is getting very hot when using data connection (browsing) in places with bad reception like inside buildings. It get hot very fast near the camera in these situations but in other places i can browse internet for much more time but the phone stays cool.
stevar said:
It seems to me that my gnex is getting very hot when using data connection (browsing) in places with bad reception like inside buildings. It get hot very fast near the camera in these situations but in other places i can browse internet for much more time but the phone stays cool.
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I get the same thing. NEED....L....T...E
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Does anyone have issues with your SGSII T989 phones having extremely high temps?
I get it when using the GPS, charging the phone while i'm talking on the phone, and doing a few other activities. It did not do this on my first purchase of the phone and i'm a bit weary of the temps as sometiems it gets quite warm!
Currently I'm on O.E. SGS II Rom w/ root, that's about it! No OC no mods or anything of that sort. (Just CWM and Root).
Any tips would be greatly appreciated, as this heat as caused me from using my phone each day more and more.
P.S. I WAS on Juggernaut Rom and then flashed back to Stock, and it was having this heating issue then, should i try to do a complete 100% wipe like on one of the development threads and start from scratch like I just got the phone from the factory again? I wiped my system using Odin and it seems to of kept my old programs, no information like games and etc. was kept however, does anyone think that might be the problem? Once again thanks!
XxGoKoUxX said:
Does anyone have issues with your SGSII T989 phones having extremely high temps?
I get it when using the GPS, charging the phone while i'm talking on the phone, and doing a few other activities. It did not do this on my first purchase of the phone and i'm a bit weary of the temps as sometiems it gets quite warm!
Currently I'm on O.E. SGS II Rom w/ root, that's about it! No OC no mods or anything of that sort. (Just CWM and Root).
Any tips would be greatly appreciated, as this heat as caused me from using my phone each day more and more.
P.S. I WAS on Juggernaut Rom and then flashed back to Stock, and it was having this heating issue then, should i try to do a complete 100% wipe like on one of the development threads and start from scratch like I just got the phone from the factory again? I wiped my system using Odin and it seems to of kept my old programs, no information like games and etc. was kept however, does anyone think that might be the problem? Once again thanks!
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If you are rooted you might want to try a different kernel and maybe SetCPU. I had some overheating/temp issues a while back and after I lowered my CPU a bit and set it to an Ondemand state with a profile for screen off running CPU very low when not actively in use it seemed to fix the problem.. Btw SetCPU is free for XDA users, there is a thread somewhere in the Android Hacking Apps forum..
GL
Edit: I thought it was free to xda users, I checked and cant find the thread, maybe I was wrong or they changed it..
ty VoiD
I'm on the stock kernal, I was on the modified 1.7ghz kernal before i believe, as I could overclock over that, but i just recently stopped that and went back to stock. I was and still am expecting the phone to malfunction on me sometime soon lol. It's been a really reliable phone so far! My G1 and Mytouch 3G slide (gf's phone) took soo many dumps on me while I used it. Each of those phones were probably sent back 5-8 times and they were kept completely stock for a while!
Back on subject though. Any kernals that go well with the factory rom? I don't favor any aftermarket roms right now as they're not stable enough for my usage IMO.
I have heat problems but I've always had the stock kernel...
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Undervolt at the stock clock if you want to lower temps. However, charging will always increase heat especially if you are using the phone at the same time, and depending on ambient temps.
Dude my moms sgsII literally got fried because it heated up once. She was using her phone normally and all of a sudden it started heating up. She kept using it and the next day the phone won't turn on, charge or get into download mode. It looked like what a hard brick would look like. So I just returned it for a HTC one S.
Btw she was on full stock.
My phone heats up a lot because I'm down south with 90-95 degree temps and I keep phone in the car dock by the windshield but it never failed on me.
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I thought it was a well fixable issue. Guess not? lol... Either way, everytime my batt temps rise, i notice i get 40-45C and i start to get worried. So if i'm in a car, i'd just put it next to the AC vent while the car's running and temps get down to about 25C and i'm good again. I just don't feel comfortable with the phone anymore like I use to. It never did this before, why now??
I have an app that warns when it goes over 40 and it happens daily. I was downloading torrents one time and it keeps the screen active while downloading and the thing got like 62 celsius before I realized what happened. It almost burnt my hand lol. if your ever in sunlight or palming the phone while using gps on 4g.
overheating is very common with this phone I wouldn't worrie about it to much it is uncomfortable though if in your pocket
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Also remember, any app that uses hardware acceleration for graphics or video (games, browser, etc.) or gps will cause the phone to heat up if used for a prolonged period of time.
Playing Osmos was like setting my phone on fire.
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I have an app that warns when it goes over 40 and it happens daily. I was downloading torrents one time and it keeps the screen active while downloading and the thing got like 62 celsius before I realized what happened. It almost burnt my hand lol. if your ever in sunlight or palming the phone while using gps on 4g.
overheating is very common with this phone I wouldn't worrie about it to much it is uncomfortable though if in your pocket
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Are you sure I shouldn't worry? I mean, I don't want solder points falling off due to too high of a temp. Then again these temps don't even reach 100C yet. I've got the same app too probably, it's a battery monitor that tells u when the phone gets too hot. mine's goes off everytime i'm around 40+
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Also remember, any app that uses hardware acceleration for graphics or video (games, browser, etc.) or gps will cause the phone to heat up if used for a prolonged period of time.
Playing Osmos was like setting my phone on fire.
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Yep, I use GPS and often. It's just so much easier than guessing your way off a piece of paper. But yeah, like you the phone gets soo hottttttt. I have to always put the phone to my AC vent.
It's normal to a point.
These are serious computers we have.
Think of the old P486's back in the day, those things needed huge heat sinks and some even had fans
our phones which is what, 4x the cpu power and not only no heat sink but everything is squished together inbetween a hot screen and a hot battery
That being said, I use a program called A-see, which is to watch my security cameras while out.
And if I forget to close it out (Actually exit the program) It will keep running and running and eventually probably fry my phone
lets put it this way, I will actually start to feel it in my jeans pocket, it gets that hot.
Also I have a program which will alert me if my phone gets to 130 degrees F
And will automatically shut the phone down if it gets to 140
overheat protection or something
I had this issue where whenever I try to charge my phone it would overheat to the point unbearable to touch I went back to stock flash different roms in the end i exchanged it it was still under warranty
Right so had my nexus for a while and its been through pretty much every ROM and kernel combo there is without a issue.
Recently though its been having a lot of issues.
1: the phone works fine until around 30-40% then the phone screen keeps unlocking no reason. Give it a reboot / battery pull to stop it and when i switch it back on there is 5% battery. No reason.
2:it constantly says its charging even when it isn't. And when the battery drop happens I switch to air plane mode to listen to my music on the way from work and the battery goes up around 5%.
Things I have done to try and cure this:
1:Wiped the phone and reflashed including cache , delvik, and battery stats. With no result.
2:thought it may be corrupted media. Wiped the phone totally and removed everything from it to start from scratch . Still no banana.
3: upgraded to jb with bixies ROM , in case it was the ROM. Still happens.
If anyone could point me on the right direction of what I have to do yo cure this problem that would be great. As its making my phone usable only until it reaches 50% which as you would agree is not ideal in anyone's world.
Thanks in advance j
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jordanprudent said:
Right so had my nexus for a while and its been through pretty much every ROM and kernel combo there is without a issue.
Recently though its been having a lot of issues.
1: the phone works fine until around 30-40% then the phone screen keeps unlocking no reason. Give it a reboot / battery pull to stop it and when i switch it back on there is 5% battery. No reason.
2:it constantly says its charging even when it isn't. And when the battery drop happens I switch to air plane mode to listen to my music on the way from work and the battery goes up around 5%.
Things I have done to try and cure this:
1:Wiped the phone and reflashed including cache , delvik, and battery stats. With no result.
2:thought it may be corrupted media. Wiped the phone totally and removed everything from it to start from scratch . Still no banana.
3: upgraded to jb with bixies ROM , in case it was the ROM. Still happens.
If anyone could point me on the right direction of what I have to do yo cure this problem that would be great. As its making my phone usable only until it reaches 50% which as you would agree is not ideal in anyone's world.
Thanks in advance j
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Either buy a new battery or the charging port in your GNex is fried.
jordanprudent said:
Right so had my nexus for a while and its been through pretty much every ROM and kernel combo there is without a issue.
Recently though its been having a lot of issues.
1: the phone works fine until around 30-40% then the phone screen keeps unlocking no reason. Give it a reboot / battery pull to stop it and when i switch it back on there is 5% battery. No reason.
2:it constantly says its charging even when it isn't. And when the battery drop happens I switch to air plane mode to listen to my music on the way from work and the battery goes up around 5%.
Things I have done to try and cure this:
1:Wiped the phone and reflashed including cache , delvik, and battery stats. With no result.
2:thought it may be corrupted media. Wiped the phone totally and removed everything from it to start from scratch . Still no banana.
3: upgraded to jb with bixies ROM , in case it was the ROM. Still happens.
If anyone could point me on the right direction of what I have to do yo cure this problem that would be great. As its making my phone usable only until it reaches 50% which as you would agree is not ideal in anyone's world.
Thanks in advance j
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My friends nexus was doing this if ur using a live wall paper get rid of it that seemed to help his the phone would turn screen on and always said it was charging hope that helps u as well gl
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My friends nexus was doing this if ur using a live wall paper get rid of it that seemed to help his the phone would turn screen on and always said it was charging hope that helps u as well gl
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Wow.. that is really weird well if that really is the root cause of the problem then I'd be amazed!
Hmm what about a replacement battery apk or something on those lines to reset all the battery stats and config. Really out of ideas what it is , ain't had this kind of problem before. Had most issues but this one is really odd and appears to not be fixable. I could unroot and send it back to Samsung but really CBA to do that and would rather try and fix it. Hmmm.....
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Hello,
I've browsed the xda forums and few others extensively for solution of my issue, though to no help at all.
For the starters some numbers and general info:
Phone: R800i Xperia Play, 2.6.32.9-DooMKernel, Xperia NXT v.1.3.
Only default stuff running in the background.
For testing and possible solution, apps I've installed:
Advanced Task Manager,
No-Frills CPU (min. 134 MHz, max 1.114 GHz, smartass, sio),
Battery Defender (Temp 32C, voltage: 3.0V, changed from 4.0V).
I always keep Data, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS off, unless I need them. Brightness is about 30% most of the time, no auto-brightness control.
For solution purpose I've got manual network selection for 2G, usually it is 2G/3G auto search - never got issues with this.
I've got two batteries, stock one and a Tell Me one, both 1500 MAh, both never had any issues.
Today morning (7AM), as usual, I've disconnected fully charged phone from the charger. I haven't noticed a thing that could be off about the phone.
I've went to the work, and around 11 AM I've messaged a little, and then I've noticed a weird thing - phone was very hot and the battery info said that it is on around 30%. Of course, first I've tried was to reboot the device, and lower the maximum frequency of the CPU.
Unfortunately it wasn't a bug or a mistake - phone really had around 30% charge left. I've got a usb cable from a co-worker to keep the phone from dying.
In the meantime, I've tried resetting the phone to factory defaults, tried flight mode, setting everything to off - nothing helped. Also, what's more weird - phone was charging incredibly slow (that might be because of charging from PC USB) when turned off and it still was hot.
I've realized that phone is getting really hot only in one area - near top right corner (place where light sensor is), on the backside, after you extend the phone (there is a little screw there, under 'sticker').
After getting back to home, I've tried charging the first battery to 100% - it completed, using stock charger, but it took quite longer than expected. Discharging is quite fast - 1% per 4-5 minutes. In ~50 minutes I've got 90%. This gives roughly 7 hours of work on battery. In flight mode, with everything turned off, with CPU on 134 MHz.
On a second battery, which I have in right now, I am steadily progressing from 93% to the 0% at the speed of 1% per 3 minutes.
Phone is +2 years old, not on warranty.
Any advice could be really appreciated.
Is it a stock battery or an aftermarket? I had an aftermarket battery once. It had a similar response in my phone. Bought another battery. OEM and solved it.
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Maybe it's battery fault.
One of my battery did the same thing (it even got even bigger due gasses inside it). Replaced it and it's working fine.
If it happends on both batteries, maybe it's hatdware issue. In worste case, something inside phone is shortcutted and drainibg current, causing heating. Maybe opening phone and cleaning parts inside could help.
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Wouldn't hurt to open it up and using an eraser clean the battery contacts inside phone and on battery itself. Then use a can of compressed air to blast that bad boy.
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I've got two different batteries, stock one that came with phone, and a second aftermarket one, which was rarely used - only on long trips when I wanted to play. Both of them couldn't be damaged like that.
Phone never fell on the floor, is always in protective rubber-like 'case' and of course it never even touched water.
Right now heat is strong enough to be a bit painful if you slide the phone out and touch the light sensor area on the backside. I will try to get some torx screwdrivers and open up this part, but I doubt I will find anything. I was wondering if switching back to stock rom could help.
I'm really at loss here since I don't wanna buy new one, though they're cheap right now (about 150$ in my area with 24 month warranty, without any contract), since I've got some holiday plans and wanted to have some more funds. I can go by with the 4-5 hour discharge time if I have a cable on me since I'm working at the office with computers. I can always charge the phone, but knowing that usually I never even fell under 80% after 8 hours at work is kind of bothering.
Have you reformatted the phone via flashing a ftf file... see if that fixes the issue.
Maybe try to use it without battery. Connect charger, remove battery while still powered on, and wait 15minutes (as i recall, it will not turn off). If phone is still hot, then it's not battery related problem.
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Maybe try to use it without battery. Connect charger, remove battery while still powered on, and wait 15minutes (as i recall, it will not turn off). If phone is still hot, then it's not battery related problem.
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Actually I've tried this and I've got some results. Phone turns off when it stays this way in OS for a while, so I did that in Boot manager, which I thought won't be affected by OS itself, and I was right - phone stays on, with screen on. Unfortunately, it is very hot in the 'usual' place. So we can root out the possibility that this is a battery issue.I am not quite sure, but also this is certainly not antenna, since it is off in the boot manager, as well as WiFi, BT and GPS.
So could it be that the kernel itself, which must have some module responsible for power management, went crazy? That is just my wild (hopeful) guess, and I wish that flashing will help. Any ROMs that you can advice?
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Actually I've tried this and I've got some results. Phone turns off when it stays this way in OS for a while, so I did that in Boot manager, which I thought won't be affected by OS itself, and I was right - phone stays on, with screen on. Unfortunately, it is very hot in the 'usual' place. So we can root out the possibility that this is a battery issue.I am not quite sure, but also this is certainly not antenna, since it is off in the boot manager, as well as WiFi, BT and GPS.
So could it be that the kernel itself, which must have some module responsible for power management, went crazy? That is just my wild (hopeful) guess, and I wish that flashing will help. Any ROMs that you can advice?
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Well, to test if everything is working properly, flash stock firmware with flashtool (even kernel). Test all functions of phone with apps (wifi, BT, gps, 3g, flashlight, tear-front camera). If all works, maybe some chip is overheating.
In that case, if you don't know how to open phone, maybe it's best to take it to service.
If you do know how to open it, first start cleaning enterier. If that don't help, try to power it while dissasembled, and see what chip is overheating and google for it's model to see what it is.
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Well, to test if everything is working properly, flash stock firmware with flashtool (even kernel). Test all functions of phone with apps (wifi, BT, gps, 3g, flashlight, tear-front camera). If all works, maybe some chip is overheating.
In that case, if you don't know how to open phone, maybe it's best to take it to service.
If you do know how to open it, first start cleaning enterier. If that don't help, try to power it while dissasembled, and see what chip is overheating and google for it's model to see what it is.
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Thanks for advice. I will flash the phone completely to stock and test it. Actually, if it is turned off, it is not heating up but starts to when I try to charge the battery.
I'm working at IT company, but my knowledge ends at the desktop computers actually, certainly I am not into electronics - I can tell when capacitors on motherboard are starting to go bad, but that's it. Starting from laptops, some parts are to small and prone to damage to be just opening and looking around.
I suppose if the stock kernel won't help, I will seek assistance of some service since they always give some kind of warranty for repairs. Of course, I will keep this topic updated, since there might be same kind of lost soul with the same problem.
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Thanks for advice. I will flash the phone completely to stock and test it. Actually, if it is turned off, it is not heating up but starts to when I try to charge the battery.
I'm working at IT company, but my knowledge ends at the desktop computers actually, certainly I am not into electronics - I can tell when capacitors on motherboard are starting to go bad, but that's it. Starting from laptops, some parts are to small and prone to damage to be just opening and looking around.
I suppose if the stock kernel won't help, I will seek assistance of some service since they always give some kind of warranty for repairs. Of course, I will keep this topic updated, since there might be same kind of lost soul with the same problem.
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When you are on stock kernel, test offline charging too (phone turned off, but charging). So heating problem is only limited to battery-charging electronics-kernel).
Post your results when/if it's fixed, no matter what they are. Good luck
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When you are on stock kernel, test offline charging too (phone turned off, but charging). So heating problem is only limited to battery-charging electronics-kernel).
Post your results when/if it's fixed, no matter what they are. Good luck
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Unfortunately, after flashing to stock R800i_4.0.2.A.0.79.ftf I still have this weird overheating issue and the battery is draining really fast. Seems like this is hardware problem, not a software one, since I tested it in many different ways to no help at all.
I will not let go off my XPlay, as I will visit service and try to repair The Best Gaming Phone to Date, though I will buy a new phone, which will be Xperia S, since I've got my eyes on it ever since I played on my friend's one - Final Fantasy 7 with OpenGL plugin in fpse looked really great, and the controls were fine for my tastes.
When I get the XPlay fixed, I will update this thread, since I like this phone and would like to have it back and running.
Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it