[Q] Keep my GS3 or switch to HTC One X? - HTC One X

I just got a Galaxy S3 on AT&T and the majority of the features, little things, that just make it more pleasant to use are probably available in 3rd party apps, so I'm wondering if the SGS3 is worth the $100 premium over the HOX? I posted this thread in the SGS 3 forum too a week or two ago and they said I should post it here too for some insight from HOX owners.
Another reason I was kind of considering the HOX over the SGS3 is that I've had two phones stolen and I just had my Skyrocket stolen, which prompted the upgrade, so with the HOX, you can't take the battery out. Am I correct in believing that that makes it less likely to get stolen? Because I thought that even if the phone was off but the battery was in, it could be tracked. Is this right or wrong?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
Greg

Ferrari353 said:
I just got a Galaxy S3 on AT&T and the majority of the features, little things, that just make it more pleasant to use are probably available in 3rd party apps, so I'm wondering if the SGS3 is worth the $100 premium over the HOX? I posted this thread in the SGS 3 forum too a week or two ago and they said I should post it here too for some insight from HOX owners.
Another reason I was kind of considering the HOX over the SGS3 is that I've had two phones stolen and I just had my Skyrocket stolen, which prompted the upgrade, so with the HOX, you can't take the battery out. Am I correct in believing that that makes it less likely to get stolen? Because I thought that even if the phone was off but the battery was in, it could be tracked. Is this right or wrong?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
Greg
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leave that piece of plastic and join us! however i don't know if the phone could be tracked never wondered this thing

I like the feel of the HOX, My missus has the SGS3 and every time I lay my hands on it makes me love the build quality of the HOX. Another plus for me is Sense. As mentioned in previous post........join us!

They're about equal imo. HOX has nicer build and screen. SGS3 has better camera and dev community.
No point switching unless you're unhappy with the SGS3.
You might also want to consider the Nexus 4.

Michealtbh said:
They're about equal imo. HOX has nicer build and screen. SGS3 has better camera and dev community.
No point switching unless you're unhappy with the SGS3.
You might also want to consider the Nexus 4.
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The Nexus 4 seems really nice, but it doesn't have 4G LTE and no SD card slot. Maybe I could handle just one of them, but both? It seems like so much sacrifice....Although the price is really nice.

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The Nexus 4 seems really nice, but it doesn't have 4G LTE and no SD card slot.
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Well, you're in the Tegra 3 One X forum, this One X doesn't support LTE either and has no SD slot.

im thinking of swapping my HOX to SGS3/NOTE 2 because i'm a little frustrated with the JB update. went to the mall yesterday and feel the note2 and sgs3. and i dont see anything that would really make me swap my HOX. i still like my phone. i'll just wait for the JB update. it's always a matter of preference and how do you use your phone.

I'm just gonna throw some points.
Sense is a big advantage but it is heavy.
HOX has cooler design ?
One X has a brighter and REAL HD display, S3 also has an HD display but its RGB components are not equal in size(makes it worse), S3 has true black colors ?
S3 supports SD
Personally I think its a bad idea to switch between equal phones. At least go for the HOX+.
On the other topic, You can report your phone stolen and your carrier will blacklist(and block) your IMEI and CAN(but not sure if allowed) track the next user's info. But theres absolutely no way to track the phone even if its on, unless
-you installed some app which tracks the phone "WHEN IT IS CONNECTED TO INTERNET (3G/WIFI)" or
-if your SIM is still in the phone and the police triangulates its position (they use this to track criminals and i don't think they will do this for a stolen phone)

Is the bootloader on the HOX+ locked or unlocked?

Ferrari353 said:
Is the bootloader on the HOX+ locked or unlocked?
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It comes locked but is unlockable like most HTC devices.

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It comes locked but is unlockable like most HTC devices.
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So does that mean it's root-able once the bootloader is unlocked?

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Considering HTC Wildfire S (T-Mobile) as secondary phone...thoughts?

I used a demo unit at a T-Mobile store, and was kinda surprised to find it relatively responsive/lag-free, especially with Sense tacked on, given the specs; I can imagine how much it'd fly with a vanilla CM7 ROM on it or something of the sort. I was originally hoping the Dell Venue Pro would fill in as a secondary phone, but I didn't like WP7 so I returned it.
Anyway, I have the chance to get one for like $150 new, and I was just wondering if it's worthwhile using it as a secondary/smaller phone to my G2; while my G2 isn't exactly super-heavy/expensive, I'd probably feel worse losing/damaging it than the Wildfire, and I don't really need the keyboard at work since I don't exactly have the time to really use it. Having a second (decent) Android phone would allow me to play around with experimental stuff with the G2 while I use the Wildfire and still have a functional/available Android phone. I like the overall feel/look/weight/etc to it too - light enough to use with an armband if I wanted to and comfortably take my phone jogging or something. Yes, I know the specs and screen resolution would mean less stuff compatible, but it's not like I even watch Netflix or anything like that on my G2. Are there any major problems with it maybe, particularly ones that can't be fixed by software?
The next cheapest decent phone I can get is the new LG MyTouch for about $50, and while it's better in like every way (screen quality, specs even better than my G2, etc.), the lack of a search button is a real downer, I'm not a fan of the build quality (played around with it and used to have a Optimus V...both feel like toys compared to my G2 or the Wildfire S), and the huge bezel on the bottom is just ugly. And while it's ligther than my G2, it's not much smaller.
And while I could obviously get something better than my G2 and then use the G2 as a secondary phone...there isn't much on T-Mobile that I'm really interested in; I mean, I can upgrade to the Amaze 4G or GSII for about $400, but I don't find either enough of an upgrade over my G2 (unlike the Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy Tab 7.7...which are $600+ each, and don't really have a need for either at the moment).
Honestly you'd be better served finding another phone. While most things are fixable with software, unless you're a dev, the gsm models are constant headaches. Don't get me wrong, i like the phone. I just sometimes regret not just trying to flash a dinc or something to my carrier. Ebay has super cheap used phones.
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so far almost everything works OK for me with unofficial CM 7.2 from alquez, and I'm quite pleased with how it's performing now
the one last stumbling block for me now is GPS which I broke by applying patches from here I guess worst case scenario is I'll have to re-flash it again (too bad I did not do backup before applying the GPS patch).
but it was indeed a pain to unlock the bootloader and root it, quite a procedure let me tell you
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Honestly you'd be better served finding another phone. While most things are fixable with software, unless you're a dev, the gsm models are constant headaches. Don't get me wrong, i like the phone. I just sometimes regret not just trying to flash a dinc or something to my carrier. Ebay has super cheap used phones.
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Mind telling what's so bad about the GSM versions? I'd really like to know, as I kinda close to impluse-buying it yesterday if it really is that bad, are there any other small/light T-Mobile phones you can recommend? Everything else I've seen feels so cheap/plasticky...
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but it was indeed a pain to unlock the bootloader and root it, quite a procedure let me tell you
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How hard was it? I've only dealt with a few phones in terms of rooting and I can't say it was enough to deter me away from the phone itself.
GSM version is a great phone especially running cyanogen.
Everything is running fast and stable.
For the price and form factor its fantastic and very friendly on and in your pocket.
Sent from my modded Cm7.2 Wildfire S @806MHz S-off and loved!!!
You should probably get the HTC Sensation 4G or the HTC Amaze. I should known how bad the wildfire s was before I bought it
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Honestly you'd be better served finding another phone. While most things are fixable with software, unless you're a dev, the gsm models are constant headaches. Don't get me wrong, i like the phone. I just sometimes regret not just trying to flash a dinc or something to my carrier. Ebay has super cheap used phones.
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i dont get it how can it be a headache, since from when i bought it, there were only minor problems.... can u give some arguments on what you are telling
Also this stands for MrTaco505 ....
As for the thread starter: if you want small phone, with decent capabilities, its phone for you ... though i don't know what is the price range that you want, certainly that the sensation would be better... but it also costs twice the wildfire s ?
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For the price and form factor its fantastic and very friendly on and in your pocket.
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Certainly good to hear, thanks.
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You should probably get the HTC Sensation 4G or the HTC Amaze. I should known how bad the wildfire s was before I bought it
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Eh, Sensation/Amaze are at least $300 each for me, and are only barely slimmer than my G2 - they're about equal in weight and bigger due to the screen. I understand either would be much better than the Wildfire S...but simply put, I need an Android phone for a few basic functionalities/apps, not some fancy dual-core for games I'll never play with HDMI-output that I'll rarely use (if ever), etc. I also don't like spending much on a phone period, so ~$150 is a great price to me.
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As for the thread starter: if you want small phone, with decent capabilities, its phone for you ... though i don't know what is the price range that you want, certainly that the sensation would be better... but it also costs twice the wildfire s ?
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While I can technically afford the Sensation, the size/weight of it compared to the Wildfire S is why I'm not really considering it. And unless I'm mistaken, there's not many other decent phones in the same price range that don't feel like they're made of cheap plastic - which is why I'm asking.
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Certainly good to hear, thanks.
Eh, Sensation/Amaze are at least $300 each for me, and are only barely slimmer than my G2 - they're about equal in weight and bigger due to the screen. I understand either would be much better than the Wildfire S...but simply put, I need an Android phone for a few basic functionalities/apps, not some fancy dual-core for games I'll never play with HDMI-output that I'll rarely use (if ever), etc. I also don't like spending much on a phone period, so ~$150 is a great price to me.
While I can technically afford the Sensation, the size/weight of it compared to the Wildfire S is why I'm not really considering it. And unless I'm mistaken, there's not many other decent phones in the same price range that don't feel like they're made of cheap plastic - which is why I'm asking.
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galaxy ace would be the only alternative, but it feels cheaper than wfs in hand ...
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How hard was it? I've only dealt with a few phones in terms of rooting and I can't say it was enough to deter me away from the phone itself.
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not super hard, most of the hassle was around unlocking the bootloader which in my case was not very straight forward (and in general I think I hit every corner which I could possible have )
see my post here for more details about what were my steps
I am using a DZ (european G2) and a wfs as a secondary phone. All I can say is that the wfs is performing pretty good. As I am not using any data on it, the battery life on 2G is more than decent and the handset is quite fast. Right now I am using the latest stock ROM with OC and I am very happy with it.
I guess it also depends on what and how many apps are you planning to install on it. The internal memory is not very big, and it may also slow down the phone. At some point I was using a phone logger that would sync all my phone calls with google calendar and the app would render my phone unusable at times.
If you are planning to use it mainly for phone calls, I definitely recommend it. It is a great phone, way better then the galaxy ace IMO
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galaxy ace would be the only alternative, but it feels cheaper than wfs in hand ...
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Yeah, was looking at it earlier, but even if I wanted it I'd be stuck with 2G using it on T-Mobile USA.
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not super hard, most of the hassle was around unlocking the bootloader which in my case was not very straight forward (and in general I think I hit every corner which I could possible have )
see my post here for more details about what were my steps
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Thanks, I'll look into that soon!
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I am using a DZ (european G2) and a wfs as a secondary phone. All I can say is that the wfs is performing pretty good. As I am not using any data on it, the battery life on 2G is more than decent and the handset is quite fast. Right now I am using the latest stock ROM with OC and I am very happy with it.
I guess it also depends on what and how many apps are you planning to install on it. The internal memory is not very big, and it may also slow down the phone. At some point I was using a phone logger that would sync all my phone calls with google calendar and the app would render my phone unusable at times.
If you are planning to use it mainly for phone calls, I definitely recommend it. It is a great phone, way better then the galaxy ace IMO
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Thanks for the reply, went ahead and put a bid on one Wildfire S, hopefully I can get it cheaper than through my friend's T-Mobile discount.
I forgot to mention one thing: the price. I got my wfs brand new for less than 100 bucks from vodafone, so for that price is an amazing device
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So are you guys sticking with the One X then? I'm undecided.

So I have never considered the S3 before, but I have two weeks left to replace my One X (Second One X with dodgy compass) and I am wondering whether to just give up and ask for a S3 instead.
First of all let me say that I LOVE the One X, and the better screen and sleeker looks are more than enough for me to pick it over the S3 with it's otherwise stronger specs - were it not for the faults with the device.
Build quality is iffy, and I have had two HOXes now, both of which have had dodgy gps which just don't work (they show me spinning around on the spot and moving around rapidly on the map when I am standing still). But perhaps getting another replacement would fix that.
But that isn't all. The fact that wi-fi turns off when the phone goes into stand-by is a huuge inconvenience, as I have to keep on interacting with the phone whenever I am down/uploading a large file, so it doesn't stop half way through. I shouldn't have to do this.
Also, the multi-tasking is pretty awful and doesn't seem to have been coded well at all.
Now my question is, do you guys foresee these problems being sorted out in the not-too-distant future, or are you considering switching over to the S3 as well? Also, do you expect the S3 to have similar problems when it comes out?
I just want to reiterate that I love this phone and really don't want to slag it off, but the combined problems are really getting me down, and I don't think an expensive top-end mobile should should be so flawed.
TY for any thoughts and opinions in advance.
EDIT: Ok well. Two of the biggest problems I had with the One X seem to have been solved already.
First of all, the 1.29.0.11 (??) patch has apparently fixed multi-tasking.
Also, some genius has managed to show me a fix for the wi-fi turning off when the phone is in standby.
Crabitpig said:
There's an app on the market (power saver settings by Derek r Randall)that let's you into the hidden HTC power settings from there untick the WiFi auto disconect and also keep never sleep selected from the advanced WiFi menu.hit thanks if this helps
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I tried this out, and my phone's wifi now stays connected even when the screen is turned off!! Woop!!!!
Still leaves the factor of a dodgy GPS, but I am more than happy to get a replacement HOX as the other main problems have been alleviated
Same question for me. I got 2nd one atm and still got probs with it. Like the GPS like you, gap on the side, WiFi turnin off....... I like this thing and I want it workin but now I'm in the role that I could change to another device on Vodafone Germany because its getting the 3rd replacement. I don't know what to do too... Greetz
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does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
mox123 said:
does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
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I own a sensation but when I'm not dling, the WiFi goes off when screen is off.
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does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
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Yes.
But even if it stayed on until the download was finished, that wouldn't be OK in my opinion.
I am for at least 12 months. As much as the lack of s-off is annoying it isn't the deal breaker so long as HTC are releasing pretty regular updates for the bugs found. As far as my devices build quality is concerned I have no problems. Just not worth using htcdev until half way through my contract risking the loss of warranty.
The device itself should entertain me as is for 12 months. Hunting S-OFF is a side attraction until then post that date root via htcdev will see me the latter half of the contract by keeping me interested.
Sticking with One X for now unless something real enticing comes. SGS3 was a disappointment IMO. Maybe the Sony GX or the next Nexus I'll upgrade. Maybe even iPhone 5
SGS3 has multitasking problems also according to a reviewer/user if we're talking about the same problem.
Wi-Fi should be fixed, One S had it fixed I believe.
I personally haven't run into wi-fi problems recently. For a a little while when running a new build of ARHD, I all of a sudden got the wi-fi problems ppl were talking about. Didn't have the problems before that. Switched over to LeeDroid and haven't run into the wi-fi problem since.
You can set a longer screen off time when downloading, also I'm sorry to say I don't have the same problems :/
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as much as i hate to say this i am undecided as well..now if my carrier comes back to me and they say i can replace my handset then i will go for the s3. now do not get me wrong i love my one x. but at the same time with all the issues going on kinda puts me off. hence how do i know i will not get another dodgy one..if they say they can only repair it then i will hold off sending it as it is still fully functional and were i have the creaking i stuck a case over it and it has stopped for now..so it goes like this
replace it for me then i am going for the s3
if they say no then one x it is and still a great device and i have recommended it to a few of my friends and hoping they get a good batch
pewpewbangbang said:
Sticking with One X for now unless something real enticing comes. SGS3 was a disappointment IMO. Maybe the Sony GX or the next Nexus I'll upgrade. Maybe even iPhone 5
SGS3 has multitasking problems also according to a reviewer/user if we're talking about the same problem.
Wi-Fi should be fixed, One S had it fixed I believe.
I personally haven't run into wi-fi problems recently. For a a little while when running a new build of ARHD, I all of a sudden got the wi-fi problems ppl were talking about. Didn't have the problems before that. Switched over to LeeDroid and haven't run into the wi-fi problem since.
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you aren't serious about the iPhone, aren't you ?
im selling mine when i borrow a camera for pics. i made a mistake leaving Samsung. i might get the nexus though. Google wallet might actually work. i have never seen so many duplicate threads, clueless users, and mods choosing when to enforce rules and when not to.
I'm selling mine as soon as it comes back from HTC, should be a brand new one. I won't open it and will sell it straight away and buy a S3.
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Are you guys really sure the Samsung will not have bugs ?
I will stay with my OneX ... i am sure it will be better and better ... and i dnt want such a ugly phone in my pocket lol
muamers said:
Are you guys really sure the Samsung will not have bugs ?
I will stay with my OneX ... i am sure it will be better and better ... and i dnt want such a ugly phone in my pocket lol
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Yeah it is pretty nasty looking isn't it! I also don't like the idea of having 16gb base memory even if it is expandable. I much prefer the 32gb internal memory of the One X over Micro SD as it is so much quicker - and I dont need to fork out even more money for an SD card.
Hmmmm..... This is really annoying. Why couldnt you just get the phone right HTC!!??
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you aren't serious about the iPhone, aren't you ?
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Depends if its actually good. I have an upgrade with att. Will probably use it either way and if it doesn't look good ill just sell it off.
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The question is no different than asking "which should I buy, a M-B E Class or BMW 5 Series?" Both have strengths and weaknesses and neither is immune from issues.
The same applies to the One X vs. SGS3 comparison.
Here's a list of reasons why not to get a One X over a SGS3.
1) You like SAMOLED displays.
2) You need better battery life than the 1800mAh non-removable battery in the One X can provide.
3) You want removable storage.
4) You don't like the One X design or are partial to the SGS3's.
5) You like TouchWiz better than Sense.
6) HTC's new warranty policy for flashing third-party ROMs either scares you or pisses you off.
7) You fancy some of the s/w features like Direct Talk, S-Voice, and Smart Stay.
8) You use $300 plus headphones or have several thousands of dollars’ worth of home A/V equipment and the Wolfson DAC's important.
Here's a list of things that are going to be the same.
1) Initial build quality issues.
2) Initial s/w problems.
3) Variations from display-to-display.
4) Durability and longevity.
5) Excellent development support.
Voice calls, e-mail, MMS, social, and web browsing make up 70% of what people do with smartphones. In those areas it would be hard to tell the two phones apart. Happy decision making.
P.S. – For those on their 9th exchange, now hate HTC for whatever reason, or have expectations no phone ever produced could meet; there’s no need to re-post what you’ve most likely already posted a dozen times. I, and I’m sure others get it; the One X has some launch issues and because of that your life is forever altered.
sticking with it.. does everything I need and it's the sexiest phone on the market right now. so why would I need to move? Plus I'm on a 2 year contract so doesn't justify me breaking my contract or selling my phone for less than its actual worth.
@BarryH I think that's a little unfair. I wasn't trying to run through faults that have already been covered at great length elsewhere on the forum. Nor was I asking for a basic tally of pros and cons of S3 versus the One X.
My aim was to gauge the community's loyalty towards the One X given the faults and flaws that the device shipped with, and whether many would be making the switch over to the S3.
Also, the majority of the problems with the One X are not examples of people being overly picky or entitled - they are cases of the phone simply not doing what it was designed to do. Now I have no idea if or how long it will take HTC to fix them, but that is why I asked what peoples' thoughts about that where in the original post.
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@BarryH I think that's a little unfair.
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I wasn't faulting your original question. Sorry if it came across that way. The One X vs. SGS3 comparison/debate will be ongoing for most of the year. I was just trying to provide a check list for people on the fence. I'd guess most people leaving the One X would be going to the SGS3 anyway. I never did answer your original question. I'm getting a SGS3 and using it for a week or two before deciding which phone to keep. And not because I think there's anything wrong with the One X.

[Q] ?

Ok guys and gals, I know I have posted a question like this earlier just bare with me, because I am not really any good at decision making. So i can get the sprint Galaxy Nexus for 100$, is it worth it or should I wait or should I buy it because it's the latest Nexus? I see that Sense 4.0 and the Sony roms are not on the sprint Galaxy Nexus, are they planned to be? I really just want to know if you guys were eligible for an upgrade at this point in time would you buy this phone right now or get a different one? Thanks to begin with!!
got it even knowing the sgs3 and the evolte where right around the corner. Couldnt be happier. Bought it the first chance i could which was about two weeks after launch day.
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dakota.breeden said:
Ok guys and gals, I know I have posted a question like this earlier just bare with me, because I am not really any good at decision making. So i can get the sprint Galaxy Nexus for 100$, is it worth it or should I wait or should I buy it because it's the latest Nexus? I see that Sense 4.0 and the Sony roms are not on the sprint Galaxy Nexus, are they planned to be? I really just want to know if you guys were eligible for an upgrade at this point in time would you buy this phone right now or get a different one? Thanks to begin with!!
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Depends on your preferences.
The Galaxy Nexus is great if you:
1. want the Android that Google designed, free of modifications by phone manufacturers and carriers
2. want to be able to unlock the bootloader (and, subsequently, root) your phone fairly easily
On the other hand, the Galaxy Nexus has some drawbacks:
1. no removable storage
2. 5MP camera - not too good compared to some other phones
3. shorter battery life (because of the AMOLED screen)
4. and a few other minor issues
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got it even knowing the sgs3 and the evolte where right around the corner. Couldnt be happier. Bought it the first chance i could which was about two weeks after launch day.
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yeah but now all those things are out and im stumped and its kinda cheap for the phone. I wish people were into lg products, because the lg viper is 20 bucks and it beats the galaxy nexus in quadrant.
If you're looking for a deal, then I'd say yes. $100 isn't bad with an upgrade for a GNex. IF that isn't your main priority, even though it seems it is, then I may suggest checking out one of the aforementioned devices during the trial period (14d), more so the GSIII than than the EVO LTE.
I will say the new EVO is pretty sweet, have had some time with it as my buddy has it, and the battery has shown to be significantly better than the GNexus. The cameras do not compare, either. I'm not a big shooter, and even though I find myself taking some sweet pictures with the GNex ... it doesn't compare. Factors, though, of course, as it depends on usage and what you're looking for. Remains to be seen how the GSIII will compare, but I'm wanting to get my hands on it.
If it came down to the EVO LTE or the GNex, I still think I would go for the Nexus for multiple reasons; straight Google experience, SW keys, sexier device. Again, it remains to be seen how sweet that new Galaxy S is, but if you can hold out that long .... check it out for that week or two and determine what you feel to be the necessary decision.
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yeah but now all those things are out and im stumped and its kinda cheap for the phone. I wish people were into lg products, because the lg viper is 20 bucks and it beats the galaxy nexus in quadrant.
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... you place to much value on some stupid benchmark app. Does the lg viper run ICS? Let go of your own confinements then you shall truly be free.
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bleedblue said:
If you're looking for a deal, then I'd say yes. $100 isn't bad with an upgrade for a GNex. IF that isn't your main priority, even though it seems it is, then I may suggest checking out one of the aforementioned devices during the trial period (14d), more so the GSIII than than the EVO LTE.
I will say the new EVO is pretty sweet, have had some time with it as my buddy has it, and the battery has shown to be significantly better than the GNexus. The cameras do not compare, either. I'm not a big shooter, and even though I find myself taking some sweet pictures with the GNex ... it doesn't compare. Factors, though, of course, as it depends on usage and what you're looking for. Remains to be seen how the GSIII will compare, but I'm wanting to get my hands on it.
If it came down to the EVO LTE or the GNex, I still think I would go for the Nexus for multiple reasons; straight Google experience, SW keys, sexier device. Again, it remains to be seen how sweet that new Galaxy S is, but if you can hold out that long .... check it out for that week or two and determine what you feel to be the necessary decision.
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thanks for the reply and I don't have the money for either of those atm as i am 14 but the only thing that is holding me back from going an buying right now is the camera isnt the greatest, but i dont take many pictures, no removable storage and a cheap 20$ LG viper beats it. The only reason im not getting the viper is there isnt much developer support and lg isnt very good on software updates.
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... you place to much value on some stupid benchmark app. Does the lg viper run ICS? Let go of your own confinements then you shall truly be free.
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Its expected to soon but idk if its gonna get jelly bean? And no developer support.
dakota.breeden said:
thanks for the reply and I don't have the money for either of those atm as i am 14 but the only thing that is holding me back from going an buying right now is the camera isnt the greatest, but i dont take many pictures, no removable storage and a cheap 20$ LG viper beats it. The only reason im not getting the viper is there isnt much developer support and lg isnt very good on software updates.
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Oh so you know... no the LG viper does not run ICS and... looks like a POS phone... if that is your only other choice... get the nexus.
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ÜBER™ said:
Oh so you know... no the LG viper does not run ICS and... looks like a POS phone... if that is your only other choice... get the nexus.
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I'm pretty sure that I will end up getting this phone I'm just wondering what you buyers think of it?
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If only it were that simple.
Discuss this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801
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wait do all of them come with 32 gb on sprint??
dakota.breeden said:
wait do all of them come with 32 gb on sprint??
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The Nexus does. Roughly. Can't speak for the LG.
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Apparently comes with 4GB, expandable up to 32.
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Since this is a very common question there is a thread dedicated to it in the general forums. Please continue the conversation in there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801
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Lets say (hypothetically) the device doesn't get unlocked in the next few weeks...

What do you do?
Do you jump ship to a sure thing that can be unlocked? Do you look into an unlocked developers edition Moto X? Do you jump ship from Verizon and wait for a Nexus 5? These are the questions I have.
ALSO what would you take:
A) Great phone (say Nexus 5) on a sub par carrier? (AT&T/T-Mobile)
or
B) Good phone (Moto X) on a great carrier like Verizon?
I would like a Nexus 5 but oddly, it's cheaper for me to stay on Verizon and the coverage can't be beat. I love the feel of the One and even though I'm an aosp kinda guy, this phone doesn't feel bloated at all when you run a different launcher. I'm easily going to stick this one out till my next upgrade.
Hand76 said:
What do you do?
Do you jump ship to a sure thing that can be unlocked? Do you look into an unlocked developers edition Moto X? Do you jump ship from Verizon and wait for a Nexus 5? These are the questions I have.
ALSO what would you take:
A) Great phone (say Nexus 5) on a sub par carrier? (AT&T/T-Mobile)
or
B) Good phone (Moto X) on a great carrier like Verizon?
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First off, my Verizon HTC One is already unlocked/rooted thanks to doing the HTCDev unlock on day one.
I would still keep this phone though if I was still locked and it didn't get unlocked any time soon. I am very happy with this phone even in stock form. Luckily I do not have to worry about it though. I just really hope ARHD and/or Venom get ported to the Verizon variant. I worry if these will ever get ported though since there is no longer a way to currently unlock/root.
I'm still going to stick it out, I just wish I didnt need to deal with the vzw bloat
I give my devices 6 months.
After that, I find another one
I enjoy this phone a lot though.
so unsure
The debate in my head is eating me up. I don't know what to do!
While I like the phone a lot so far (though, haven't experimented too much). I really don't like the blink feed and a bunch of stuff they've done. I really wish I could just have vanilla 4.2.2 or 4.3
That said though, I really like Verizon's network and I have a discount with Verizon and a family plan. So it's really not so expensive for me.
Will VZW even carry the next nexus subsidized?
I just wish I had bought the phone ~15 mins earlier, then I would be unlocked. Now I just wish there is an unlock before my return period is up.
I think I may return the phone and just wait for something better, but I really don't know! First world problems!
EncodedNybble said:
Will VZW even carry the next nexus subsidized?
I just wish I had bought the phone ~15 mins earlier, then I would be unlocked. Now I just wish there is an unlock before my return period is up.
I think I may return the phone and just wait for something better, but I really don't know! First world problems!
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Chance of Verizon getting a Nexus 5 is slim to none. You want a phone close to stock android unlocked from the start on Verizon the only thing I see on the horizon is the developers edition Moto X.
And yea first world problems indeed.
I like the One even without unlock, so I'll keep it until a better phone comes out. However, after having the iPhone 5 with the metal & glass back and the HTC One and it's all metal body, I will never go back to a plastic body phone. I hope the other manufactures up their quality big time. No more plastic for me.
EncodedNybble said:
The debate in my head is eating me up. I don't know what to do!
While I like the phone a lot so far (though, haven't experimented too much). I really don't like the blink feed and a bunch of stuff they've done. I really wish I could just have vanilla 4.2.2 or 4.3
That said though, I really like Verizon's network and I have a discount with Verizon and a family plan. So it's really not so expensive for me.
Will VZW even carry the next nexus subsidized?
I just wish I had bought the phone ~15 mins earlier, then I would be unlocked. Now I just wish there is an unlock before my return period is up.
I think I may return the phone and just wait for something better, but I really don't know! First world problems!
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Use the APEX Launcher and you won't have mess with BlinkFeed or the vzw bloat, and will have 5 screens to use. And the phone is plenty fast.
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My primary intention with an unlocked bootloader is to go near minimalist while maintaining the integrity of Sense 5. Now that Sense has several incarnations I might even find legacy Sense combined with Sense 5 an interesting custom ROM to run (I.e. Sense 5 with the full screen weather ani.actions that Sense 4 had.)
This is all under the assumption that we get unlocked, which if you consider the history of technology, there is generally no immunization available for a bug yet to be discovered, so hboot 1.54 will definitely get an exploit, the matter is time before technology advances to another stage.
That being said, considering it has taken this long without demonstrated progress to a permaroot situation, it's unlikely that we see one before the return period.
With all that in mind, your best bet isn't to worry about what phone has an exploit available, but what options your phone can have in the future, in this case you have the option to run practically every launcher or software, including Sense, which I happen to like, and from my Dinc days, have seen tons of cross bred ROMs that gave me the option to customize when I was bored. I think ultimately having a daily driver for over a month and I'm pretty much bored with any phone, and I just had the GNex. Had tons of "custom" ROMs, all with the same look and feel. And of course if you're a hardware junkie the One can't be beat imo.
I guess I'll probably keep it but I don't give up hope that we may have an exploit before next Thursday, in which case I'll be thinking much harder about it than I am now.
josh995 said:
I like the One even without unlock, so I'll keep it until a better phone comes out. However, after having the iPhone 5 with the metal & glass back and the HTC One and it's all metal body, I will never go back to a plastic body phone. I hope the other manufactures up their quality big time. No more plastic for me.
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I couldn't agree more! The HTC One is such a sexy piece of engineering. I love that cold sensation you get when you pick it up for the first time in the morning. There is NO way I could go back to anything else!
Personally, I would love to come back to HTC. On the Samsung galaxy note 2 right now and its driving me crazy with dropped calls, dropping 4g to 3g that my rezound, thunderbolt, kids dna's just don't do. Got the Note 2 because of storage and battery life, which are very nice, but the plastic build sucks big time.
Development for the note 2 is pretty good which helps, but honestly, on today's phones, there just isn't a ton of improvement needed out of the box so romming isn't as important.
Quick question: is there even a temporary root option? Biggest concern is being able to keep game data on titanium.
nrfitchett4 said:
Quick question: is there even a temporary root option? Biggest concern is being able to keep game data on titanium.
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Nope not now. And that is a big one for me too.
Google get your %^& together and give us an easy to use backup and restore system in the OS already...How have they not done this already?
josh995 said:
I like the One even without unlock, so I'll keep it until a better phone comes out. However, after having the iPhone 5 with the metal & glass back and the HTC One and it's all metal body, I will never go back to a plastic body phone. I hope the other manufactures up their quality big time. No more plastic for me.
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same thing for me. I played with a motoX in best buy (STT) and not only was it already non-functioning, but damn it felt so cheap compared to this phone. Though I will admit the 4.7 inch screen in such a small housing made it very comfortable to maneuver with one hand (at least as easy as I can tell when working with a blank, non-working screen )
On my DNA I switched back and forth between CM and Sense 5, I love both. I'll stick with the one even if no unlock is achieved because A: I do like sense 5 and B: the build quality on this phone is the best I've ever felt. I would like to give CM a run on this phone though, so I'm hoping for an unlock soon.
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I would still keep my unlocked one
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If I Run Apex/Nova, is Blinkfeed still running in the background?
I want to eliminate the drain from blinkfeed, but will stick to the stock Sense launcher if running Apex is just adding a second layer. Is Sense Launcher loaded if using another launcher?
Thanks!
coldconfession13 said:
I would still keep my unlocked one
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I'm having the same dilemma. Love the hardware/feel of the One, but can't stand sense or the idea if running a skin on top of another skin. Not to mention built in WiFi which I use quite a bit (unlimited plan).
I kept my galaxy nexus longer than any other cellphone since my first in 1993, because I've been able to flash lean ROMs, keeping it useful well beyond it's time.
MotoX developer edition is on the horizon if this phone is not unlocked within a few days.
Frankie1588 said:
First off, my Verizon HTC One is already unlocked/rooted thanks to doing the HTCDev unlock on day one.
I would still keep this phone though if I was still locked and it didn't get unlocked any time soon. I am very happy with this phone even in stock form. Luckily I do not have to worry about it though. I just really hope ARHD and/or Venom get ported to the Verizon variant. I worry if these will ever get ported though since there is no longer a way to currently unlock/root.
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Bad news, venom already said they weren't going to support the verizon one. They're looking at the next verizon htc phone, the really big one.
MajikUF said:
Bad news, venom already said they weren't going to support the verizon one. They're looking at the next verizon htc phone, the really big one.
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Damn, that's disappointing

Selling my HTCDev Unlocked One....where to go next....

Like the title says, I have my HTCDev Unlocked VZW One listed on Swappa. Love the phone, love roms, etc etc, but like many others I'm disappointed with the shutdown of unlocking the bootloaders. And FYI, yes, I bought the phone with the knowledge of them being unlockable (checked 5 minutes before I bought), then they got locked down, and I was gonna return it because of that, but I know many people would be upset me with taking back "one of the six" unlocked phones to Verizon. Just doesn't seem right, it could be in a developers hands.
In any event, I didn't necessarily wanna start a debate of f-this phone or that, but I'm looking to go in the direction of the most developer friendly phone, current or upcoming (preferably upcoming). At the moment, I'm leaning Moto-X Dev Edition. I am happy they did Dev Editions and am a strong supporter of them. What I'm wondering is if it will get the dev support on our carrier it should, with only having dev editions vs all of em being unlocked. LG G2 - bootloader status unknown (past devices) as well as past-time hating LG devices, as well as hating touchwiz (yes, I made that reference on purpose). However, I'm also considering the Note 3 (still hating touchwiz) dev edition. As much as I disliked touchwiz, the Note 2 was probably my favorite device to date.
In any event, like most of the users on here, just wanting to get some feedback on dev-friendly devices that VZW will be seeing. AND NO, I'M NOT SWITCHING CARRIERS.
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Like the title says, I have my HTCDev Unlocked VZW One listed on Swappa. Love the phone, love roms, etc etc, but like many others I'm disappointed with the shutdown of unlocking the bootloaders. And FYI, yes, I bought the phone with the knowledge of them being unlockable (checked 5 minutes before I bought), then they got locked down, and I was gonna return it because of that, but I know many people would be upset me with taking back "one of the six" unlocked phones to Verizon. Just doesn't seem right, it could be in a developers hands.
In any event, I didn't necessarily wanna start a debate of f-this phone or that, but I'm looking to go in the direction of the most developer friendly phone, current or upcoming (preferably upcoming). At the moment, I'm leaning Moto-X Dev Edition. I am happy they did Dev Editions and am a strong supporter of them. What I'm wondering is if it will get the dev support on our carrier it should, with only having dev editions vs all of em being unlocked. LG G2 - bootloader status unknown (past devices) as well as past-time hating LG devices, as well as hating touchwiz (yes, I made that reference on purpose). However, I'm also considering the Note 3 (still hating touchwiz) dev edition. As much as I disliked touchwiz, the Note 2 was probably my favorite device to date.
In any event, like most of the users on here, just wanting to get some feedback on dev-friendly devices that VZW will be seeing. AND NO, I'M NOT SWITCHING CARRIERS.
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Get a GNEX that's about it.
A lot of S4s still come with mdk out of the box. Even though ME7 is locked tighter than fort knox, if you get one on mdk, I think that's about as dev friendly as it gets on Verizon right now.
To be totally honest, you might want to be patient and wait a bit. The One is one of, if not THE most popular phone in the world, with crazy dev support on other carriers. I'm not sure how popular the X will be, especially since its getting mixed to good reviews so far and not nearly as widely available as the One and S4 are. If the One gets unlocked or S-off, it could very well be the most dev supported phone on Verizon very quickly. But maybe it's that "if" part you're tired of dealing with.
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jntdroid said:
If the One gets unlocked or S-off, it could very well be the most dev supported phone on Verizon very quickly. But maybe it's that "if" party you're tired of dealing with.
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It's only a matter of time. Every device, to my knowledge, has eventually had an exploit or workaround. Might have to wait until Verizon pushes an OTA but it will eventually happen. And again, to my knowledge, I believe the One is the only quad-core on Verizon at the moment, so even if it leads the pack in that respect, it will be a while until it's matched and bettered in terms of raw processing capability. If you get a quadrant on it, it's into the 13,000's, it'll make you feel better about holding onto it.
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It's only a matter of time. Every device, to my knowledge, has eventually had an exploit or workaround. Might have to wait until Verizon pushes an OTA but it will eventually happen. And again, to my knowledge, I believe the One is the only quad-core on Verizon at the moment, so even if it leads the pack in that respect, it will be a while until it's matched and bettered in terms of raw processing capability. If you get a quadrant on it, it's into the 13,000's, it'll make you feel better about holding onto it.
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I hate making assumptions like that, but that's my hope as well. And the S4 is quad core, same processory, clocked higher than the One.
Are the really only 6 that got unlocked? I'd have thought it was more than that.
I was at Verizon when they opened to purchase mine and went right back to work and unlocked it.
So its been out for a week or so tops and you cant wait to see what happens? While I enjoyed my Galaxy S3, the One is a far superior phone in build quality and even though the S4 is a tad bit better in specs, its still crappy plastic and feels cheap. I can see if you still have a chance to take it back and exchange it free and clear, I still have a week myself, I'd like to wait and see what happens with this phone. Honestly there is nothing else for me to go to, I dont care about the MotoX even in Dev form because I dont see it as being any better than what I got, same with the Droid line in general, they are all locked down as well and have been for some time. If I would think about the S4, there is no chance I would get one that I could do anything with and its back to vanilla unrooted again anyways. The LG-G2 looks really nice but their reputation for phones isnt all that great.
So I think I'm just going to stick it out and see what happens, if I had an already unlocked One there would be no way I'd be switching at this point.
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Are the really only 6 that got unlocked? I'd have thought it was more than that.
I was at Verizon when they opened to purchase mine and went right back to work and unlocked it.
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There were more than 6. I'm not sure what OP means by that
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josh995 said:
There were more than 6. I'm not sure what OP means by that
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It's a joke from the other thread. I'm one of the illustrious 6 I guess lol.
Just bought your phone, can't wait to get it!
There are 20 people on the unlocked list here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2416238
And I am sure there were more who didn't see it or didn't bother posting in it.
As far as the OP as concerned - I guess it would depend on your android preferences. In the last 6 months I went from...
1. Gnex - absolutely loved it - but dat battery life and after owning 18 months I just wanted a new phone :/
2. Note2 - way to big (obligatory "that's what she said), the screen looked washed out to me. I think 720p at that size not so good maybe, hated touchwiz.
3. GS4 - beautiful screen - ridiculously awesome screen, awesome battery life. If I hadn't have taken the update (stupid, stupid, stupid me) maybe would have kept it. But again - I hate touchwiz. TouchWiz really is a train wreck. I mean 4 tabs in the settings page? And I HATE physical buttons!
4. HTC One - build quality was out of this world, screen is awesome. Speakers awesome (but I always connect to bluetooth sound so...) Battery meh, Sense 5 meh. Better than TouchWiz but not as good (for me) as vanilla Android). Camera meh (in my opinion), I don't care what you call your pixels if there's only 4 of them - meh. PHYSICAL BUTTONS - why?
I was Dev Unlocked on the One - but what does it matter if no one else is? I don't have the skills to pay the bills. So the One is on its way to NYC via Swappa.
5. MotoX - love it. Will sell it and buy the Developer Edition when it releases. I just love vanilla android. The phone feels good in your hand - like the One. Even though it is plastic - it doesn't feel like Samsung plastic (hard to explain). But I would say if the build quality of the One was a ten then the X would be a 7 in comparison. Great size. Good size screen in a smaller package because of bezel elimination. Camera meh. Battery. So far so good. But I haven't had it 24 hours so we'll see. Development though is meh right now as well. But I can live with less Development on the MX because it comes pretty much the way I want it whereas the with the One I was hoping for an AOSP build. Oh - and no physical buttons!
So yeah. That's my ramblings.
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There are 20 people on the unlocked list here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2416238
And I am sure there were more who didn't see it or didn't bother posting in it.
As far as the OP as concerned - I guess it would depend on your android preferences. In the last 6 months I went from...
1. Gnex - absolutely loved it - but dat battery life and after owning 18 months I just wanted a new phone :/
2. Note2 - way to big (obligatory "that's what she said), the screen looked washed out to me. I think 720p at that size not so good maybe, hated touchwiz.
3. GS4 - beautiful screen - ridiculously awesome screen, awesome battery life. If I hadn't have taken the update (stupid, stupid, stupid me) maybe would have kept it. But again - I hate touchwiz. TouchWiz really is a train wreck. I mean 4 tabs in the settings page? And I HATE physical buttons!
4. HTC One - build quality was out of this world, screen is awesome. Speakers awesome (but I always connect to bluetooth sound so...) Battery meh, Sense 5 meh. Better than TouchWiz but not as good (for me) as vanilla Android). Camera meh (in my opinion), I don't care what you call your pixels if there's only 4 of them - meh. PHYSICAL BUTTONS - why?
I was Dev Unlocked on the One - but what does it matter if no one else is? I don't have the skills to pay the bills. So the One is on its way to NYC via Swappa.
5. MotoX - love it. Will sell it and buy the Developer Edition when it releases. I just love vanilla android. The phone feels good in your hand - like the One. Even though it is plastic - it doesn't feel like Samsung plastic (hard to explain). But I would say if the build quality of the One was a ten then the X would be a 7 in comparison. Great size. Good size screen in a smaller package because of bezel elimination. Camera meh. Battery. So far so good. But I haven't had it 24 hours so we'll see. Development though is meh right now as well. But I can live with less Development on the MX because it comes pretty much the way I want it whereas the with the One I was hoping for an AOSP build. Oh - and no physical buttons!
So yeah. That's my ramblings.
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Haha, yeah, that's what I'm thinking right now too. Probably gonna shoot for Moto X Dev Edition, was gonna do exactly what you did, but I had a backup GNex laying around and figured I could crack flash in it for a while till Dev edition releases.
I'm a phone freak....I've got a problem, I admit. I've seriously had 20 phones over maybe the 2 years. Only 1 at a time, and even bought same phone at different times. I gotta quit this, haha.
And yeah, the "6 of us" thing was a joke from cm10.2 thread. Didn't even see that other thread about actually unlocked people.
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You can take me off that list... had to replace it b/c of a bad volume rocker...
chip.hughes said:
Just bought your phone, can't wait to get it!
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:good::good::good::good:
Can't ship till Tuesday cuz of the holiday obviously.
Feel free to pm me if you need help with anything on it. I'm on here a lot.
EDIT - This message brought to you from......your phone........lolz. Gonna reactivate the GNex now though, no worries, haha
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:good::good::good::good:
Can't ship till Tuesday cuz of the holiday obviously.
Feel free to pm me if you need help with anything on it. I'm on here a lot.
EDIT - This message brought to you from......your phone........lolz. Gonna reactivate the GNex now though, no worries, haha
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Your listing reminded me that I needed to email my buyer his unlock code. Completely forgot about that.
I gave my Dad my Gnex or I would have done what you did. And yea - I have got the same problem as you do. I am (in all seriousness) actually getting tired of being so tech addicted. I am going to TRY and just get this Dev Edition X and call it quits for at least 18 months (famous last words). Unless Verizon actual gets another Nexus which will probably never happen.
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Your listing reminded me that I needed to email my buyer his unlock code. Completely forgot about that.
I gave my Dad my Gnex or I would have done what you did. And yea - I have got the same problem as you do. I am (in all seriousness) actually getting tired of being so tech addicted. I am going to TRY and just get this Dev Edition X and call it quits for at least 18 months (famous last words). Unless Verizon actual gets another Nexus which will probably never happen.
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If you were really trying to ditch the tech addiction, you should get the locked X, not the dev edition.
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Sooo I am waiting to see if this device gets rooted and a black one becomes available through Verizon.
But at this point as much as it pains me to do so I will probably wait till all the fall phones cards are on the table and make a decision come October what phone I should get. Htc One? Developers Edition Moto x? Or (the way I think I am currently leaning) a Nexus 5?
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If you were really trying to ditch the tech addiction, you should get the locked X, not the dev edition.
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Good point. I already have the locked X though. But I won't be able to pass on the Dev Edition. Just in case. Especially since I paid retail for the locked X. I am going to Swappa it and fund my Dev Edition.
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Good point. I already have the locked X though. But I won't be able to pass on the Dev Edition. Just in case. Especially since I paid retail for the locked X. I am going to Swappa it and fund my Dev Edition.
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Gotcha - how are you liking it vs the One? And is it Verizon?
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Gotcha - how are you liking it vs the One? And is it Verizon?
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Yes - on Verizon.
I'll tell you - after coming from the GS4 and the One I was really worried that the screen would bother me. But I seriously don't notice any difference. But here's the thing. I am not super picky about some things. I am mostly picky about software (vanilla versus OEM skins). I love vanilla Android and I love on screen buttons.
I also decided (and everyone will have their own opinion on this which is fine) that as far as a pocket-able device; I don't want a really big device. I have a Nexus72013 to cover that. The One is not bad at all. But it is a little on the tall side. But like the Note2 and Note3 - I just don't need that size. What's nice about the MX is that it kept a pretty good screen size but eliminated a lot of bezel.
So for me - I love the MX

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