I know this was talked about here.
I have rooted my phone i have CWM recovery (installed status bar mod), and my device status is modified ( i cant run system update)..
Any way i can change it without loosing data ? Because all solutions i found included wiping data ... And i hate restoring data with titanium stuff etc...
Thanks folx !
In another thread i was told to go to chainfires root thread but there is only a way with wiping data...
Any one knows way without wiping any data ?
Try triangle away
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You can NOT use OTA updates after rooting. Period. Even if you get your device status to normal (which requires you to factory reset after rooting and running Triangle Away). OTA updates will only work on unmodified systems.
You can, however, get the update from sammobile and flash with Odin.
To quote a person who is a great deal more knowledgeable about the subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33709557&postcount=179
FloatingFatMan said:
You can NOT use OTA updates after rooting. Period. Even if you get your device status to normal (which requires you to factory reset after rooting and running Triangle Away). OTA updates will only work on unmodified systems.
You can, however, get the update from sammobile and flash with Odin.
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Erm, not true. I am rooted and device is normal. Recently I just did an OTA update. After that still used OTA Rootkeeper to restore root.
I have been trying to find a way to get my status: Modified back to normal without wiping data(rooted, stock rom/recovery) but I have had no luck...would be nice if there is a way to do it!
Seifer1975 said:
Erm, not true. I am rooted and device is normal. Recently I just did an OTA update. After that still used OTA Rootkeeper to restore root.
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That was sheer blind luck then. OTAs are incremental updates, so you could just have easily have bricked your phone doing that.
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gandalf21502 said:
I have been trying to find a way to get my status: Modified back to normal without wiping data(rooted, stock rom/recovery) but I have had no luck...would be nice if there is a way to do it!
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There isn't.
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That was sheer blind luck then. OTAs are incremental updates, so you could just have easily have bricked your phone doing that.
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There isn't.
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Oh, I doubt the risk of that happening is high. While I am rooted, everything else on my phone is still stock.
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gandalf21502 said:
I have been trying to find a way to get my status: Modified back to normal without wiping data(rooted, stock rom/recovery) but I have had no luck...would be nice if there is a way to do it!
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Well, I was rooted and my device shows normal. I did not wipe data, factory reset or flash a stock ROM again after rooting. In fact, my phone showed modified immediately after rooted and mysteriously changed to normal the day after without me doing anything at all. The only possibility I can think of is that I used the jig as well as triangle away. If you have a jig, you might want to try and see if it works.
FloatingFatMan said:
You can NOT use OTA updates after rooting. Period. Even if you get your device status to normal (which requires you to factory reset after rooting and running Triangle Away). OTA updates will only work on unmodified systems.
You can, however, get the update from sammobile and flash with Odin.
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FloatingFatMan said:
That was sheer blind luck then. OTAs are incremental updates, so you could just have easily have bricked your phone doing that.
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There isn't.
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You seem wrong about many things here in this thread. You can definitely do OTA updates after root, but you will most likely lose root... I'm aware you have 2000+ posts, but be careful what you say...
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I have jig... what have you done with it ? Just stick it in?
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You get "modified" status because of custom recovery. If you want "official" status just flash the stock recovery with ODIN. And yes you will lose root, but you will get OTA updates.
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DanDroidian said:
You seem wrong about many things here in this thread. You can definitely do OTA updates after root, but you will most likely lose root... I'm aware you have 2000+ posts, but be careful what you say...
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I guess you can quote Chainfire as being wrong as well then, because he says pretty much the same thing. OTA's are usually incremental updates, which means they patch existing files rather than replace them. IF you've just rooted and not done ANYthing else, you can probably get away with flashing an OTA. But if you've patched anything, expect trouble.
If you use ODIN to flash the OTA, you're probably safe as it has coding to fix such problems (as far as I can discern anyway), but flashing the OTA without is just asking for it.
OTA Updates are overrated, why wait for an OTA when you can download from sammobile at your leisure.
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kirilorius said:
You get "modified" status because of custom recovery. If you want "official" status just flash the stock recovery with ODIN. And yes you will lose root, but you will get OTA updates.
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Does anyone know if stock Rogers for i317m is available anywhere online yet?
And secondly, does this phone get OTA updates or is it via Kies? My SGS2 were via Kies only and carrier specific.
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Coud i flash different Country rom via ODIN? Will i have Some problems with it?
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My recovery is stock, and is say's modified. The only thing I did was root the phone, stock rom/recovery.
I have a Jig from my S2 days...how will inserting the jig reset it? Anything else need done other than insert it? Did not know the Jig would work with the N2...did not work with my S3.
With the phone off, insert the jig. It should boot into download mode. Then I reboot. That's all I did. I am not saying it will work, just that this was the only thing I did differently from others. Otherwise cannot explain why my status shows normal even though I am rooted and did not factory reset or wipe data after that.
FloatingFatMan said:
I guess you can quote Chainfire as being wrong as well then, because he says pretty much the same thing. OTA's are usually incremental updates, which means they patch existing files rather than replace them. IF you've just rooted and not done ANYthing else, you can probably get away with flashing an OTA. But if you've patched anything, expect trouble.
If you use ODIN to flash the OTA, you're probably safe as it has coding to fix such problems (as far as I can discern anyway), but flashing the OTA without is just asking for it.
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Hi,
I have a galaxy S2, and i have ordered note 2.
I was running a stock rom, with root, cwm, lots of mods, and many themes applied, and i was still able to get ota updates. So if you can do that on the s2, i would think you could it on a n2 too.
Corey
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Hope this helps:
As I mentioned in this thread, I now have rooted stock 4.1.2 and "Device status: Normal".
The OTA software update process doesn't hang anymore now
springer.music said:
I've just flashed this firmware with Mobile Odin Pro and selected all the wipes + root/mobile odin injection.
Now my N7105 is rooted with "Device status: Normal".
When I rooted it using this guide (stock recovery method), I had "Device status: Modified", so it was not possible to check for OTA updates.
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Related
The CWM or Team Win recoveries will not stick after rebooting the phone with w OTA update. There is a way of making recovery stick on the rooted OTA update. Does anyone know the correct files to freeze or erase for the new recoveries to stick?????
Is there another way of these recoveries to stick besides flashing a custom Rom??
Vinny
vinnyjr said:
The CWM or Team Win recoveries will not stick after rebooting the phone with w OTA update. There is a way of making recovery stick on the rooted OTA update. Does anyone know the correct files to freeze or erase for the new recoveries to stick?????
Is there another way of these recoveries to stick besides flashing a custom Rom??
Vinny
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I definitely didn't have that problem. If you have root use google manager to install twrp
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mikeyinid said:
I definitely didn't have that problem. If you have root use google manager to install twrp
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I have root, I have Goo Manager, I'm on a completely stock rooted rom and every time you reboot the new OTA software over writes the custom recovery to the stock Android recovery. If you have a custom rom this will not happen, only on a stock, rooted OTA latest update rom. Others are having the same issue.
Vinny
What methods did you use to install the ota and root?
Have you tried flashing the stock rooted version wildchld released?
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I waited for the OTA update then used Odin to flash root, did not reboot after flashing with Odin, pulled battery, then went right to recovery and flashed super user.zip file. I rooted my phone the right way. This is my 2nd SGS3 and didn't have this problem with the 1st one because it had the older build. This is not a problem if you are on a custom build. Only stock, rooted with latest OTA build.
Vinny
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I honestly don't know if it would work but maybe try flashing the insecure stock kernel?
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Thanks for the input. (DocHoliday) is my favorite western character. Big western nut.
Vinny
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vinnyjr said:
I have root, I have Goo Manager, I'm on a completely stock rooted rom and every time you reboot the new OTA software over writes the custom recovery to the stock Android recovery. If you have a custom rom this will not happen, only on a stock, rooted OTA latest update rom. Others are having the same issue.
Vinny
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im stock, rooted on the latest ota and i dont have this issue. never had it on the other build either
vinnyjr said:
Thanks for the input. (DocHoliday) is my favorite western character. Big western nut.
Vinny
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I'm your huckleberry!
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mrmako777 said:
im stock, rooted on the latest ota and i dont have this issue. never had it on the other build either
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yes you do, you just don't know it yet.
Reboot your phone, then boot into recovery.
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Please try this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821681
Hopefully it works. Mine is fine after update
vinnyjr said:
I have root, I have Goo Manager, I'm on a completely stock rooted rom and every time you reboot the new OTA software over writes the custom recovery to the stock Android recovery. If you have a custom rom this will not happen, only on a stock, rooted OTA latest update rom. Others are having the same issue.
Vinny
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I'm on the stock rooted rom and this hasn't been a problem for me. I've installed recovery once since I got the phone. And flashed every stock and custom Rom.
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ingenious247 said:
yes you do, you just don't know it yet.
Reboot your phone, then boot into recovery.
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Lolol uh, I've done it a hundred times guy, no issues
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You're right. You're the only guy in the world who's official stock update doesn't overwrite the recovery upon reboot. They special coded yours to preserve custom recovery.
Please...
I swear sometimes..
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Guys, I have seen this on my GF's GSII (Sprint) as well as on my nexus 7. They are placing a file called recovery-from-boot.p in the /system/ directory that overwrites recovery on every boot. I put a guide a few post up that outlines the issue when I saw it on my GF's phone.
Personally my T-Mobile has been fine, but this scenario I have dealt with before. So don't flame that bad.
The bottom line is that without some custom modding, if you're running the official stock OTA update, stock kernel, etc, standard CWM recovery is not going to stick.
Plain and simple.
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cybrnook said:
Guys, I have seen this on my GF's GSII (Sprint) as well as on my nexus 7. They are placing a file called recovery-from-boot.p in the /system/ directory that overwrites recovery on every boot. I put a guide a few post up that outlines the issue when I saw it on my GF's phone.
Personally my T-Mobile has been fine, but this scenario I have dealt with before. So don't flame that bad.
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Yeah, I'm going to try using that guide and report back. thanks
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Ok, both files were present as described in your guide.
Renamed both to:
recovery-from-boot.bak
install recovery.sh.bak
Reflashed CWM through ROM Manager. Rebooting now, then will try power off & booting into recovery. Hang tight
*Edit: Worked like a charm. Gentlemen, we have the solution. Thanks due (and given) to cybrnook both here and in the guide
sweet.
ingenious247 said:
The bottom line is that without some custom modding, if you're running the official stock OTA update, stock kernel, etc, standard CWM recovery is not going to stick.
Plain and simple.
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Yeah, I'm going to try using that guide and report back. thanks
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I would argue, I have a stock rooted rom, stock kernel and I update to the new OTA update via Kies and TWRP has stuck every boot since then. I even tested it again when I saw this thread as it made me unsure.
cybrnook said:
I would argue, I have a stock rooted rom, stock kernel and I update to the new OTA update via Kies and TWRP has stuck every boot since then. I even tested it again when I saw this thread as it made me unsure.
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Maybe the Kies version is different than the OTA.
Maybe TWRP overwrites or renames/deletes the files causing it.
But you can't argue with my posts, because I said official OTA update, and CWM.
ingenious247 said:
Maybe the Kies version is different than the OTA.
Maybe TWRP overwrites or renames/deletes the files causing it.
But you can't argue with my posts, because I said official OTA update, and CWM.
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No worries, but for clarification to all the read this thread. The update from Kies is the exact same Official update as the OTA, so if you have not been prompted for the update yet from T-Mo, just install Kies on your PC and plus your phone in, it will prompt you for the update.
I have another guide I made for that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842142
For the recovery, installing twrp or CWM wont remove the two files I listed. This is done manually. I know on the sprint side, they made a root Super User package that swiped those off specific to the sprint phone. But I opted away from that for my GF as I Prefer SuperSU and am anal retentive about installing something I don't want and uninstalling it.
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ingenious247 said:
yes you do, you just don't know it yet.
Reboot your phone, then boot into recovery.
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ingenious, it's not present on all phones. Like mine for example, I have been fine since day 1 of owning the phone. But my GF's sprint phone had the persistent install present.
It's strange, some phones don't have it at all, some only have the .p file, and some have both. I have not found the common denominator yet.
ingenious247 said:
You're right. You're the only guy in the world who's official stock update doesn't overwrite the recovery upon reboot. They special coded yours to preserve custom recovery.
Please...
I swear sometimes..
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My bad man, I didn't get the memo that you knew everything I guess all the other guys that haven't had this same issue are nuts too...
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I searched and couldn't find an answer, maybe I'm just a bad searcher. I'm using the rt66 root injected stock rom and this morning I checked "software update" under "about phone" and it started downloading a 330+ mb file. I'm assuming this is the JB update that was just released, will it install correctly or should I stop the download? I don't want to brick my phone and I can wait until I'm home to update. Thanks.
kingston73 said:
I searched and couldn't find an answer, maybe I'm just a bad searcher. I'm using the rt66 root injected stock rom and this morning I checked "software update" under "about phone" and it started downloading a 330+ mb file. I'm assuming this is the JB update that was just released, will it install correctly or should I stop the download? I don't want to brick my phone and I can wait until I'm home to update. Thanks.
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IIRC I tried the same thing, it just gave me an error message, didn't actually update anything. You can try of course, I don't think it'll work. Also, if you're already root, you should probably install CWMRecovery or TWRP Recovery and make a backup of your phone, just so you can feel safe about it.
I would make a backup, go ahead and try the update. It'll probably fail and not harm your phone, or update properly. Good luck, and post back with results if you can, I'd like to know what happens
Thanks for the reply. I already have twrp and a nandroid backup. I think I'll wait until I get home to try and apply the update.
Use voodoo ota rootkeeper.
Go to my firmware/ota thread for instructions. Stickied in development.
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Thanks for the reply. I already have twrp and a nandroid backup. I think I'll wait until I get home to try and apply the update.
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Just to let you know for when you get home from work, your update will fail. You're going to need to have Stock Recovery. There is a flashable floating around here somewhere.
The OTA will check for /system integrity. Meaning that it will look for all the /system/apps that are supposed to be there (meaning if you've deleted any bloat and not just froze it-fail), stock recovery, and NO ROOT (hence the OTA Rootkeeper). If any 1 of those are not as they should be, the OTA will fail.
Thanks for the reply again. So the easiest thing for me to do is first install root keeper and then find and flash the stock recovery. The only thing I've done is flash the root66 and then installed twrp, I haven't frozen any apps or deleted anything.
DocHoliday77 said:
Use voodoo ota rootkeeper.
Go to my firmware/ota thread for instructions. Stickied in development.
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Doc, I was reading your instructions in your firmware/OTA thread, it looks like you recommend mobile odin pro which I already have. If I follow your instructions for that method it should give me the OTA, correct? Thanks for that entire thread, very informative.
Could someone be so kind to help me...I am rooted with a stock rom, but I have added Photosphere and Keyboard 4.2, so I guess not technically 100% stock. I am selling my GS3 and I want to get rid of root, and put back to 100% factory condition including this new 4.1 JB update. What's the easiest way to do this?
agtitan said:
Could someone be so kind to help me...I am rooted with a stock rom, but I have added Photosphere and Keyboard 4.2, so I guess not technically 100% stock. I am selling my GS3 and I want to get rid of root, and put back to 100% factory condition including this new 4.1 JB update. What's the easiest way to do this?
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flash back stock ICS and update from that.
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I can't update, recovery turns on instead
Thanks for the help. An FYI for anybody else wondering, if you have the root66 root injected rom on your phone the OTA will work and install. I just did it, weird thing is initially it said it failed but when I rebooted I have 4.1.1 and google now. Restored root using root keeper, easy process overall.:good:
kingston73 said:
I searched and couldn't find an answer, maybe I'm just a bad searcher. I'm using the rt66 root injected stock rom and this morning I checked "software update" under "about phone" and it started downloading a 330+ mb file. I'm assuming this is the JB update that was just released, will it install correctly or should I stop the download? I don't want to brick my phone and I can wait until I'm home to update. Thanks.
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I've been told that its fine too do it, youll just lose root access, but mine had failed when I was rooted, so I just odined back to stock. Also, its recommended that you do a factory reset after the update. Had problems with Wifi calling myself, before I performed a Factory Reset. The root66 file for JB should be up soon. Its says uploading
agtitan said:
Could someone be so kind to help me...I am rooted with a stock rom, but I have added Photosphere and Keyboard 4.2, so I guess not technically 100% stock. I am selling my GS3 and I want to get rid of root, and put back to 100% factory condition including this new 4.1 JB update. What's the easiest way to do this?
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If you update via Kies and then do a factory reset, you should get what you're looking for.
Completely stock, no root.
Try it out.
OTAs have always worked for me while rooted, but many people report otherwise.
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Oh and imo kies sucks! Most others agree.
But to each his own. I cant be much help for kies problems though just fyi.
I really just think all other methods are much more reliable.
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OTAs have always worked for me while rooted, but many people report otherwise.
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Oh and imo kies sucks! Most others agree.
But to each his own. I cant be much help for kies problems though just fyi.
I really just think all other methods are much more reliable.
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I agree, Kies does suck, but it's the only way I've found to update and keep the ROM completely stock if the OTA fails. It updates via download mode, so it shouldn't matter if you're rooted, or even if you have a custom recovery.
I tried updating to JB using the OTA this morning, and it failed, but Kies worked fine.
Thsts whst the full fw Im hosting is for. You can flash it via odin if the ota fails. Just a better way imo. Glad you got it regardless though!
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Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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When it is rooted even if you try to use the OTA update it won't let you, while rooted, you could alternatively flash the update via ODIN w/ root support. Or try some of the sweet ROMs available , the reason I switched to a custom ROM because I was going to have to erase my phone anyway if I wanted to update, so I thought why not just try a custom ROM?
I use LiquidSmoothRC7, but if you want a more stock feel with touchwiz you can try Wicked, Wicked stays true to the "official stock ROMs" and just adds roots and tweaks the ROM to make it as stable as possible
If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section
cobraboy85 said:
If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section
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OR you could listen to this dude
cobraboy85 said:
If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section
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Actually there is. There are 10 partitions rewritten with the Odin and OTA update. Only 5 get rewritten if you flash via custom recovery, so you don't get the full update.
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zul8er said:
Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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go to doc's thread, flash his firmware update, reboot, then flash whatever JB ROM you desire. there is absolutely no need to ODIN your phone with the OTA fw, resetting your device completely. you just need to make sure you flash the latest firmware first before you flash a ROM that is based off the latest OTA
cobraboy85 said:
go to doc's thread, flash his firmware update, reboot, then flash whatever JB ROM you desire. there is absolutely no need to ODIN your phone with the OTA fw, resetting your device completely. you just need to make sure you flash the latest firmware first before you flash a ROM that is based off the latest OTA
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I stayed on 4.0.4 with the base of UVLH2 and just clean installed JB roms so should I update the base? Or is it already updated?
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Towle said:
Actually there is. There are 10 partitions rewritten with the Odin and OTA update. Only 5 get rewritten if you flash via custom recovery, so you don't get the full update.
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Some of those 10 partitions that are getting rewritten are... for one, your recovery... so that makes 9 actually...
My point is, and I'm not trying to be argumentative in any way, merely objective, is that unless it is reformatting the ext4 partition to new file structure (for example) there should be no need to do this. I suppose I would ask somebody to define in depth "rewritten" and how exactly this is being done and why. Every single update we have had since the release of this device I have not once updated my own device with odin merely to put it back to stock. And I have run into zero issues. Seems like a waste of time to me unless there is something highly critical being restructured entirely. In the end, its all the same disk, and disk size for any given partition.
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neim81094 said:
I stayed on 4.0.4 with the base of UVLH2 and just clean installed JB roms so should I update the base? Or is it already updated?
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If you are on LH2, with that same baseband, I would go ahead and update your baseband via docs packaged update in his thread, and just reboot, then move on to the jelly bean updates. Do a factory reset through recovery before you flash the JB ROM tho since you are coming from a completely different version of android.
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Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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If you want to avoid all the weird miscellaneous problems listed in the Q&A forum, update using Odin and the rooted rom in Docs' thread. If you choose not to use Odin do not be surprised if odd things happen.
Just stating my experience, I was rooted stock ics and ran the ota update. I was able to update, keep root and ran stock jelly bean without any problems at all.
Now I am running frosty jelly and still no problems at all. I am not saying for you to do it (dont want anyone blaming me) just stating that it can be done. Do whats most comfortable for you.
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jcbofkc said:
If you want to avoid all the weird miscellaneous problems listed in the Q&A forum, update using Odin and the rooted rom in Docs' thread. If you choose not to use Odin do not be surprised if odd things happen.
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Again looking for some technical clarity here. Haven't had a single issue myself. With anything. And I have not factory odined my device once since I got it. It is not critical to do this, otherwise I would be suffering from "weird miscellaneous problems"
Hopin doc can jump in here and set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me you will be fine just updating your radios and then moving to the latest build (4.1.1) as long as you clear data before flashing your ROM of choice
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Again looking for some technical clarity here. Haven't had a single issue myself. With anything. And I have not factory odined my device once since I got it. It is not critical to do this, otherwise I would be suffering from "weird miscellaneous problems"
Hopin doc can jump in here and set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me you will be fine just updating your radios and then moving to the latest build (4.1.1) as long as you clear data before flashing your ROM of choice
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You could very well be correct. Not trying to debate you.
but....I am seeing thread after thread of issues. Based on experience I suggest using the full proof method. I have updated many phones using many different methods and never have problems, but apparently many have had issues.
I also hope Doc chimes in on this thread.
jcbofkc said:
You could very well be correct. Not trying to debate you.
but....I am seeing thread after thread of issues. Based on experience I suggest using the full proof method. I have updated many phones using many different methods and never have problems, but apparently many have had issues.
I also hope Doc chimes in on this thread.
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Totally dig it. And yeah, just want to know what exactly is being done differently in odin
cobraboy85 said:
Totally dig it. And yeah, just want to know what exactly is being done differently in odin
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If I understand the process correctly
ODIN flashes the entire phone OS like the kernel, Rom, baseband, etc
Using recovery to flash only updates the Rom,recovery,boot,kernel
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neim81094 said:
If I understand the process correctly
ODIN flashes the entire phone OS like the kernel, Rom, baseband, etc
Using recovery to flash only updates the Rom,recovery,boot,kernel
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Sorry, I will clarify, I am curious to know why Odin is such a critical issue. I know how it works as far as it being a flashing tool
I am not sure maybe it's just preference and how much you want to use your computer and what how much you want to download etc
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neim81094 said:
I am not sure maybe it's just preference and how much you want to use your computer and what how much you want to download etc
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The file used to flash with Odin is much larger because it is a complete rom. The OTA is a patch that attempts to patch and modify existing files.
I basically said that on the last post not the one you quoted
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Finally got the time to Odin Route66 Jelly bean.
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Everything good?
Hi
My N7100 has a strange problem.
I switch on wifi, then go to about phone and then software update
Then I click check for updates.
Earlier when no update was available, the phone used to simply say "latest already installed or something like that"
Now it keeps doing "Checking for updates" and this goes on for more than 10 minutes. After that I pressed cancel.
I restarted phone, but no use
I am on stock rom, stock kernel. My phone is rooted though using dr. Ketan's method and I have also reset the flash counter.
Same here....got no clue
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I've got the same thing. I just put it down to been rooted.
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So, does this mean, if you root your phone OTA updates are KAPUT??
I did not see this in the rooting threads. I think then we need to add this info, that if you root your phone, update through mobile ODIN only
Since rooters are facing this problem, I have changed the title to reflect the same.
Rooting is a modification in firmware, and OTA can not recognize modified firmwares. If you've rooted without a custom recovery, may be removing root from supersu (or any super user management tool) can fix this problem.
Mine showed 2 different OTA messages after rooting: The first one: "The phone has been modified, etc..." then I used Triangle Away (it always shows 1 in the flash counter though) and now it's stuck in "Searching for updates".
Unfortunately I can't find the stock rom for my country (Honduras). I want to go back to 4.1.1
Of course, sure. Rooting will Disable OTA update. If you wanna get OTA update back, just go to Samsung-update.com
, download the latest firmware with your country name, if your country is not found, choose the nearest country, and then flash it with Odin, then OTA update will available back.
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Flashing the firmware over Odin won't bring your ota back as you binary will still show custom there is a away to get the Samsung firmware back but up must use triangle away first to get the counter to 1
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2088809 this should help out
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userdefind said:
Flashing the firmware over Odin won't bring your ota back as you binary will still show custom there is a away to get the Samsung firmware back but up must use triangle away first to get the counter to 1
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I think as long as you're rooted you can't use OTA updates on Samsung. I got triangle away, status normal, rooted and the same thing happened to me when trying OTA.... so best way to just flash each new update via Odin. Since there is no data loss involved, it is ok. And then root again (it is a 3 minute operation anyway)
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I think as long as you're rooted you can't use OTA updates on Samsung. I got triangle away, status normal, rooted and the same thing happened to me when trying OTA.... so best way to just flash each new update via Odin. Since there is no data loss involved, it is ok. And then root again (it is a 3 minute operation anyway)
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Yes if your rooted you can't do it. And your right it would be a lot faster just to flash the update via Odin. But if your just having a bad time with a rooted phone for some messed reason. Then that fourm will help u get back to stock as you can be.
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Thanks everyone for the information. I want to go back to 4.1.1 mostly because 4.1.2 has a very annoying auto-rotate bug (the screen gets stuck in landscape or portrait after a while) I also wanted to recover the OTA feature but it's not a big deal now.
Envoyé depuis mon GT-N7100
I have mobile odin pro so even after flashing I don't need to re root
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tsk1979 said:
So, does this mean, if you root your phone OTA updates are KAPUT??
I did not see this in the rooting threads. I think then we need to add this info, that if you root your phone, update through mobile ODIN only
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Its mentioned allready in different threads that when u root youd loose your ota update function
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firez_hn said:
Mine showed 2 different OTA messages after rooting: The first one: "The phone has been modified, etc..." then I used Triangle Away (it always shows 1 in the flash counter though) and now it's stuck in "Searching for updates".
Unfortunately I can't find the stock rom for my country (Honduras). I want to go back to 4.1.1
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After u reset your flash counter and reboot you still have a custom recovery that makes flash counter raise to 1 back again x) if u want to keep flash counter zero and still root u should get prerooted stock roms, there could be other options but i dont know abt that
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Yeah... Rooting means losing OTA's
but after all, u could just use mobile odin and download the update from sammobile.
i never really used ota 2 be honest.
good luck
I tested this Awhile ago, But it was with the official rooted firmware flashed via odin, as long that the system is flagged as official OTA works just fine while rooted.
I just got this phone and its running liquid smooth 4.2.2. i wanted to flash beanstalk 4.4 but it kept failing the flash. can someone point me in the right direction lol. i have the sgh 1747.
Need more information, carrier specific, model, error message when trying to flash
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jimchee said:
Need more information, carrier specific, model, error message when trying to flash
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i have the att version. its the sgh i747 version. after searching i think it won't flash those because i need to update to 4.3. but i don't know how.
pitbullmommy45245 said:
i have the att version. its the sgh i747 version. after searching i think it won't flash those because i need to update to 4.3. but i don't know how.
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Don't do it if you think you might ever want to be able to use Odin as a recovery option. Once you upgrade to 4.3 on AT&T you're stuck if something bad happens to your phone you're going to have a hard time fixing it.
If yours sure you want to do it then Odin your phone back to an early firmware as soon as it boots it will force you to take an update. It may be 4.1.2 or it may be 4.3? Not sure but you just let the phone update through ota. Or alternately there are files with instructions in threads labeled with names similar to 4.3 OTA official.
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Well right now there are some disadvantages, imho, to upgrading to 4.3 stock, once the bootloader is updated you cannot downgrade to any other build at this time, but that is a call for u to make, if you want to ota to 4.3 you have to get on stock 4.1.2 which you do through odin and then ota, not what I would do at this time just to many horror stories for my taste on 4.3 right now
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Don't do it if you think you might ever want to be able to use Odin as a recovery option. Once you upgrade to 4.3 on AT&T you're stuck if something bad happens to your phone you're going to have a hard time fixing it.
If yours sure you want to do it then Odin your phone back to an early firmware as soon as it boots it will force you to take an update. It may be 4.1.2 or it may be 4.3? Not sure but you just let the phone update through ota. Or alternately there are files with instructions in threads labeled with names similar to 4.3 OTA official.
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Well right now there are some disadvantages, imho, to upgrading to 4.3 stock, once the bootloader is updated you cannot downgrade to any other build at this time, but that is a call for u to make, if you want to ota to 4.3 you have to get on stock 4.1.2 which you do through odin and then ota, not what I would do at this time just to many horror stories for my taste on 4.3 right now
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so should i not do it? lol. mine is unlocked too. i'm using it on cincinnati bell. will this erase the unlock?
No once a phone is unlocked it cannot be relocked
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I wouldn't do it if it involves updating the bootloader at this time but that is just my opinion and am not a developer just an advanced tinkerer
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if i understand your question correctly, you're trying to flash a 4.3/4.4 AOSP-based ROM? but it keeps failing?
i'm sorta having the same problem too, whenever i flash any ROMs based off 4.3/4.4 AOSP, i get constant reboots, about 2-3 an hour.
i am using CWM for recoery, but i don't think i tried BeanStalk 4.4
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No once a phone is unlocked it cannot be relocked
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I wouldn't do it if it involves updating the bootloader at this time but that is just my opinion and am not a developer just an advanced tinkerer
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i mean is it really hard lol? can someone give me a link to the guide.
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so should i not do it? lol. mine is unlocked too. i'm using it on cincinnati bell. will this erase the unlock?
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It is all up to you. I have 4.3 and am happy with it. It is very stable and has decent battery life. It isn't without issues though. I have problems with it giving me the weak wifi signal message or that my Internet is too slow (10Mbps DSL? Slower than some but certainly no slouch) when it does this it disconnects and I have to manually tell it to reconnect. The other thing is in my battery stats built in the rom not all of the apps are being logged only things like screen on time, cell standby, wifi, bluetooth, basic phone stuff but none of the apps???
Why I wish I hadn't done it? Because I lost the ability to be able to recover my phone with Odin and the ability to do whatever it is I want to with the bootloaders.
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I just want to flash beanstalk 4.4. I depend on wifi. So does WiFi work?
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i mean is it really hard lol? can someone give me a link to the guide.
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Read the stickys here and in the general section it will have nearly all of the information and tools you need. Then you can get firmware to flash in Odin from http://www.sammobile.com go there register for an account click firmwares in the top bar of the site and search for your phones model number such as mine is SGH-I747 and a Canadian phone or Mexican phone would be SGH-I747M.
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Read the stickys here and in the general section it will have nearly all of the information and tools you need. Then you can get firmware to flash in Odin from http://www.sammobile.com go there register for an account click firmwares in the top bar of the site and search for your phones model number such as mine is SGH-I747 and a Canadian phone or Mexican phone would be SGH-I747M.
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can i root though after i get on 4.3. i was reading and it says don't do it if you want root.
pitbullmommy45245 said:
can i root though after i get on 4.3. i was reading and it says don't do it if you want root.
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Try these links they might be of some use, I assume you have read the stickys and have a general idea of what you are up against. click below if you're sure you want to do this to your phone.
4.3 ota Rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387423 Follow the instructions exactly and understand once you do this there is no turning back. You can run different roms but you have to have the 4.3 bootloaders you cannot for any reason EVER download the bootloaders
This will get you root, I had to use method #2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538991
I take absolutely no responsibility of any bad things that happen if you use the above links. make sure you understand the tasks you are wanting to preform and the risks associated with such, 4.3 has caused MANY HARD BRICKS.
ok i just did this but i think i might of messed up. i did just as the op said and i was at the downgrading part and now my screen is on the samsung screen and just flashing
pitbullmommy45245 said:
ok i just did this but i think i might of messed up. i did just as the op said and i was at the downgrading part and now my screen is on the samsung screen and just flashing
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Give it a few minutes to try to boot then pull the battery, boot to recovery and do a factory reset. if that doesn't work then flash the odin file again.
When you do get the 4.3 it will take several minutes to boot it will look like its stuck on the boot screen but be patient it will likely boot eventually.
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Give it a few minutes to try to boot then pull the battery, boot to recovery and do a factory reset. if that doesn't work then flash the odin file again.
When you do get the 4.3 it will take several minutes to boot it will look like its stuck on the boot screen but be patient it will likely boot eventually.
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how long does it take? like 10 plus min?
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how long does it take? like 10 plus min?
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No it shouldnt take ten minutes but 4.3 takes considerably longer than all the roms I have used in the past.
You are still at the stage of flashing 4.1.1 correct? if it didnt boot just reflash it(uncheck the box for auto reboot so you have to pull the battery out after you flash it) then go to recovery and do a factory reset, then reboot the phone, it should boot this time.
You did check to make 100% sure you downloaded the correct 4.1.1 file for the phones model? right?
Don't mean to make anybody sound silly just trying to figure out exactly whay is going on.
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No it shouldnt take ten minutes but 4.3 takes considerably longer than all the roms I have used in the past.
You are still at the stage of flashing 4.1.1 correct? if it didnt boot just reflash it(uncheck the box for auto reboot so you have to pull the battery out after you flash it) then go to recovery and do a factory reset, then reboot the phone, it should boot this time.
You did check to make 100% sure you downloaded the correct 4.1.1 file for the phones model? right?
Don't mean to make anybody sound silly just trying to figure out exactly whay is going on.
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i got passed it. i guess i wasn't patient enough lol. i'm on 4.3 now. now time to try to root and flash beanstalk lol.
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ok i got passed that. i got to the part where you flash 4.3. it was going through the flash then it got to a part where two errors came up in red (i couldn't see what they were it rebooted right after) and then it rebooted but got stuck on the att ball and wouldn't reboot. then i went into recovery and it was all red and blue and the android had a triangle with a red exclimation mark. i just tried to reflash but it keeps doing the same thing. it gets stuck on the att ball.
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Do you still have custom recovery (Which one do you have) or do you have the stock recovery?
Edit: I see you edited your post after I quoted you to respond, glad you got it going, now just follow the guides as written for root, I had to use method #2, but you should try method 1 first.
Good luck