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Unroot the phone?

Is there any methods on how to unroot the phone?

i was wondering the same thing, i'm gonna go exchange my phone tomorrow at noon due to the vertical lines on the screen. i just installed the deodexed rom and deleted superuser.

follow instructions from this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311229

already tried it, i can still boot into recovery.

I think someone needs to post a CWM or Odin flashable stock recovery image. I'm not sure when that's going to happen since we replace it with a custom recovery to get root. I have a feeling we may need to wait until someone releases a custom kernel/system image that is pre rooted. At that point someone with a virgin phone should be able to flash that and pull an image of the stock recovery.
However, I could just be talking out of my ass since I'm not a dev ...
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asatnik11 said:
I think someone needs to post a CWM or Odin flashable stock recovery image. I'm not sure when that's going to happen since we replace it with a custom recovery to get root. I have a feeling we may need to wait until someone releases a custom kernel/system image that is pre rooted. At that point someone with a virgin phone should be able to flash that and pull an image of the stock recovery.
However, I could just be talking out of my ass since I'm not a dev ...
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I agree. A Odin that would flash the stock kernel and stock recovery would be very handy incase you need to return the device. I'd worry about returning the phone with a custom recovery and voiding some sort of tmo warranty.

I am also looking for a way to get the original recovery back.. is there a way to do this or will we have to wait?

If you did nandroid backup before installing the zip file then all you need to do is restore that backup.
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quest4fire said:
If you did nandroid backup before installing the zip file then all you need to do is restore that backup.
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And how would you go about getting a nandroid backup without the custom cwm recovery? I'm pretty sure nandroid won't backup the recovery partition anyways. This isn't like other devices like the vibrant where recovery is built into the kernel or you just start a custom recovery by loading an update.zip from the stock recovery.
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Does anyone have the stock recovery? or a way to put it back to stock completely? If not your looking at a huge Out of warranty fee if returns are needed.

Couldn't you just follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311229

asatnik11 said:
And how would you go about getting a nandroid backup without the custom cwm recovery? I'm pretty sure nandroid won't backup the recovery partition anyways. This isn't like other devices like the vibrant where recovery is built into the kernel or you just start a custom recovery by loading an update.zip from the stock recovery.
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Exactally, no nandroid without custom recovery.
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hoops129 said:
Couldn't you just follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311229
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No, looks like that will not put the stock recovery back on so it will be evident in the event of an exchange that it is rooted and the Out of warranty fee will be assessed.
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Or is there a way to remove the recovery from the phone that will work too (for an exchange)

This is what's keeping me back from rooting so far. I want to know for sure I can go back to stock before I do anything. Hopefully this will come soon.
I might be exchanging my phone and wonder if they would notice that it was rooted. Kinda want to test everything on this phone and then I will figure out what to do with my new phone. What do you guys think about them finding out??

Ya, I would love to see a way to restore the stock recovery also. I rooted to see if chainfire would help with all of the game crashes that i have been experiencing but it didnt and now I want to restore the stock recovery so that I can do an exchange.

you must have clockworkmod recovery installed before continuing
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anybody have this problem when trying to access rom manager?

Can someone with a higher pay grade than me explain what's involved in order to get the file/image for stock recovery? Just trying to understand the process involved. Does anyone know if this is being worked on now?
Thanks, in advance.

I hope this comes soon because I am itching to root this thing and get rid of the bloatware. Eaglesblood rom is calling me.

ilimit said:
anybody have this problem when trying to access rom manager?
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If you noitce....the recovery is called CMW and in the recovery refers to itself as "CWM-Based". It's not from Koush is my understanding and that's the way of the world.

Check the dev section koush just released cwm officially for our phone
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Babyj303 said:
Check the dev section koush just released cwm officially for our phone
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So this would unroot us?

Rooted stock rom - can I update?

I searched and couldn't find an answer, maybe I'm just a bad searcher. I'm using the rt66 root injected stock rom and this morning I checked "software update" under "about phone" and it started downloading a 330+ mb file. I'm assuming this is the JB update that was just released, will it install correctly or should I stop the download? I don't want to brick my phone and I can wait until I'm home to update. Thanks.

kingston73 said:
I searched and couldn't find an answer, maybe I'm just a bad searcher. I'm using the rt66 root injected stock rom and this morning I checked "software update" under "about phone" and it started downloading a 330+ mb file. I'm assuming this is the JB update that was just released, will it install correctly or should I stop the download? I don't want to brick my phone and I can wait until I'm home to update. Thanks.
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IIRC I tried the same thing, it just gave me an error message, didn't actually update anything. You can try of course, I don't think it'll work. Also, if you're already root, you should probably install CWMRecovery or TWRP Recovery and make a backup of your phone, just so you can feel safe about it.
I would make a backup, go ahead and try the update. It'll probably fail and not harm your phone, or update properly. Good luck, and post back with results if you can, I'd like to know what happens

Thanks for the reply. I already have twrp and a nandroid backup. I think I'll wait until I get home to try and apply the update.

Use voodoo ota rootkeeper.
Go to my firmware/ota thread for instructions. Stickied in development.
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kingston73 said:
Thanks for the reply. I already have twrp and a nandroid backup. I think I'll wait until I get home to try and apply the update.
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Just to let you know for when you get home from work, your update will fail. You're going to need to have Stock Recovery. There is a flashable floating around here somewhere.
The OTA will check for /system integrity. Meaning that it will look for all the /system/apps that are supposed to be there (meaning if you've deleted any bloat and not just froze it-fail), stock recovery, and NO ROOT (hence the OTA Rootkeeper). If any 1 of those are not as they should be, the OTA will fail.

Thanks for the reply again. So the easiest thing for me to do is first install root keeper and then find and flash the stock recovery. The only thing I've done is flash the root66 and then installed twrp, I haven't frozen any apps or deleted anything.

DocHoliday77 said:
Use voodoo ota rootkeeper.
Go to my firmware/ota thread for instructions. Stickied in development.
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Doc, I was reading your instructions in your firmware/OTA thread, it looks like you recommend mobile odin pro which I already have. If I follow your instructions for that method it should give me the OTA, correct? Thanks for that entire thread, very informative.

Could someone be so kind to help me...I am rooted with a stock rom, but I have added Photosphere and Keyboard 4.2, so I guess not technically 100% stock. I am selling my GS3 and I want to get rid of root, and put back to 100% factory condition including this new 4.1 JB update. What's the easiest way to do this?

agtitan said:
Could someone be so kind to help me...I am rooted with a stock rom, but I have added Photosphere and Keyboard 4.2, so I guess not technically 100% stock. I am selling my GS3 and I want to get rid of root, and put back to 100% factory condition including this new 4.1 JB update. What's the easiest way to do this?
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flash back stock ICS and update from that.
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I can't update, recovery turns on instead

Thanks for the help. An FYI for anybody else wondering, if you have the root66 root injected rom on your phone the OTA will work and install. I just did it, weird thing is initially it said it failed but when I rebooted I have 4.1.1 and google now. Restored root using root keeper, easy process overall.:good:

kingston73 said:
I searched and couldn't find an answer, maybe I'm just a bad searcher. I'm using the rt66 root injected stock rom and this morning I checked "software update" under "about phone" and it started downloading a 330+ mb file. I'm assuming this is the JB update that was just released, will it install correctly or should I stop the download? I don't want to brick my phone and I can wait until I'm home to update. Thanks.
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I've been told that its fine too do it, youll just lose root access, but mine had failed when I was rooted, so I just odined back to stock. Also, its recommended that you do a factory reset after the update. Had problems with Wifi calling myself, before I performed a Factory Reset. The root66 file for JB should be up soon. Its says uploading

agtitan said:
Could someone be so kind to help me...I am rooted with a stock rom, but I have added Photosphere and Keyboard 4.2, so I guess not technically 100% stock. I am selling my GS3 and I want to get rid of root, and put back to 100% factory condition including this new 4.1 JB update. What's the easiest way to do this?
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If you update via Kies and then do a factory reset, you should get what you're looking for.
Completely stock, no root.
Try it out.

OTAs have always worked for me while rooted, but many people report otherwise.
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Oh and imo kies sucks! Most others agree.
But to each his own. I cant be much help for kies problems though just fyi.
I really just think all other methods are much more reliable.
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DocHoliday77 said:
OTAs have always worked for me while rooted, but many people report otherwise.
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Oh and imo kies sucks! Most others agree.
But to each his own. I cant be much help for kies problems though just fyi.
I really just think all other methods are much more reliable.
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I agree, Kies does suck, but it's the only way I've found to update and keep the ROM completely stock if the OTA fails. It updates via download mode, so it shouldn't matter if you're rooted, or even if you have a custom recovery.
I tried updating to JB using the OTA this morning, and it failed, but Kies worked fine.

Thsts whst the full fw Im hosting is for. You can flash it via odin if the ota fails. Just a better way imo. Glad you got it regardless though!
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[Q] Tmobile update on stock rooted rom

Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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When it is rooted even if you try to use the OTA update it won't let you, while rooted, you could alternatively flash the update via ODIN w/ root support. Or try some of the sweet ROMs available , the reason I switched to a custom ROM because I was going to have to erase my phone anyway if I wanted to update, so I thought why not just try a custom ROM?
I use LiquidSmoothRC7, but if you want a more stock feel with touchwiz you can try Wicked, Wicked stays true to the "official stock ROMs" and just adds roots and tweaks the ROM to make it as stable as possible

If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section

cobraboy85 said:
If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section
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OR you could listen to this dude

cobraboy85 said:
If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section
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Actually there is. There are 10 partitions rewritten with the Odin and OTA update. Only 5 get rewritten if you flash via custom recovery, so you don't get the full update.
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zul8er said:
Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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go to doc's thread, flash his firmware update, reboot, then flash whatever JB ROM you desire. there is absolutely no need to ODIN your phone with the OTA fw, resetting your device completely. you just need to make sure you flash the latest firmware first before you flash a ROM that is based off the latest OTA

cobraboy85 said:
go to doc's thread, flash his firmware update, reboot, then flash whatever JB ROM you desire. there is absolutely no need to ODIN your phone with the OTA fw, resetting your device completely. you just need to make sure you flash the latest firmware first before you flash a ROM that is based off the latest OTA
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I stayed on 4.0.4 with the base of UVLH2 and just clean installed JB roms so should I update the base? Or is it already updated?
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Towle said:
Actually there is. There are 10 partitions rewritten with the Odin and OTA update. Only 5 get rewritten if you flash via custom recovery, so you don't get the full update.
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Some of those 10 partitions that are getting rewritten are... for one, your recovery... so that makes 9 actually...
My point is, and I'm not trying to be argumentative in any way, merely objective, is that unless it is reformatting the ext4 partition to new file structure (for example) there should be no need to do this. I suppose I would ask somebody to define in depth "rewritten" and how exactly this is being done and why. Every single update we have had since the release of this device I have not once updated my own device with odin merely to put it back to stock. And I have run into zero issues. Seems like a waste of time to me unless there is something highly critical being restructured entirely. In the end, its all the same disk, and disk size for any given partition.
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neim81094 said:
I stayed on 4.0.4 with the base of UVLH2 and just clean installed JB roms so should I update the base? Or is it already updated?
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If you are on LH2, with that same baseband, I would go ahead and update your baseband via docs packaged update in his thread, and just reboot, then move on to the jelly bean updates. Do a factory reset through recovery before you flash the JB ROM tho since you are coming from a completely different version of android.

zul8er said:
Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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If you want to avoid all the weird miscellaneous problems listed in the Q&A forum, update using Odin and the rooted rom in Docs' thread. If you choose not to use Odin do not be surprised if odd things happen.

Just stating my experience, I was rooted stock ics and ran the ota update. I was able to update, keep root and ran stock jelly bean without any problems at all.
Now I am running frosty jelly and still no problems at all. I am not saying for you to do it (dont want anyone blaming me) just stating that it can be done. Do whats most comfortable for you.
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jcbofkc said:
If you want to avoid all the weird miscellaneous problems listed in the Q&A forum, update using Odin and the rooted rom in Docs' thread. If you choose not to use Odin do not be surprised if odd things happen.
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Again looking for some technical clarity here. Haven't had a single issue myself. With anything. And I have not factory odined my device once since I got it. It is not critical to do this, otherwise I would be suffering from "weird miscellaneous problems"
Hopin doc can jump in here and set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me you will be fine just updating your radios and then moving to the latest build (4.1.1) as long as you clear data before flashing your ROM of choice

cobraboy85 said:
Again looking for some technical clarity here. Haven't had a single issue myself. With anything. And I have not factory odined my device once since I got it. It is not critical to do this, otherwise I would be suffering from "weird miscellaneous problems"
Hopin doc can jump in here and set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me you will be fine just updating your radios and then moving to the latest build (4.1.1) as long as you clear data before flashing your ROM of choice
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You could very well be correct. Not trying to debate you.
but....I am seeing thread after thread of issues. Based on experience I suggest using the full proof method. I have updated many phones using many different methods and never have problems, but apparently many have had issues.
I also hope Doc chimes in on this thread.

jcbofkc said:
You could very well be correct. Not trying to debate you.
but....I am seeing thread after thread of issues. Based on experience I suggest using the full proof method. I have updated many phones using many different methods and never have problems, but apparently many have had issues.
I also hope Doc chimes in on this thread.
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Totally dig it. And yeah, just want to know what exactly is being done differently in odin

cobraboy85 said:
Totally dig it. And yeah, just want to know what exactly is being done differently in odin
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If I understand the process correctly
ODIN flashes the entire phone OS like the kernel, Rom, baseband, etc
Using recovery to flash only updates the Rom,recovery,boot,kernel
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neim81094 said:
If I understand the process correctly
ODIN flashes the entire phone OS like the kernel, Rom, baseband, etc
Using recovery to flash only updates the Rom,recovery,boot,kernel
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Sorry, I will clarify, I am curious to know why Odin is such a critical issue. I know how it works as far as it being a flashing tool

I am not sure maybe it's just preference and how much you want to use your computer and what how much you want to download etc
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I am not sure maybe it's just preference and how much you want to use your computer and what how much you want to download etc
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The file used to flash with Odin is much larger because it is a complete rom. The OTA is a patch that attempts to patch and modify existing files.

I basically said that on the last post not the one you quoted
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Finally got the time to Odin Route66 Jelly bean.
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[Q] Question about updating while rooted

Since ATT claims that they will be doing an OTA update tomorrow I'm wondering what will happen to my rooted phone. Do I install the update? Will it try and automatically install the update itself? If it does what will happen to my phone. I'm currently on the latest version of Clean ROM. Thanks for all the help in advance!

I am kinda curious about this also. I am just rooted tho , with the exploit method. No custom roms or anything. I unchecked the options and rebooted to get phone state normal and then checked for updates , but didn't find anything.
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As long as u dont have custom recovery u will be able to get the update ....u will lose root thought....
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I am kinda curious about this also. I am just rooted tho , with the exploit method. No custom roms or anything. I unchecked the options and rebooted to get phone state normal and then checked for updates , but didn't find anything.
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Lol cause there is no update yet
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I am also rooted and using CleanRom 3.5. I am sure the build date for the current CleanRom will be newer than the AT&T build date supposedly coming today. I guess I won't be updating since they are only adding multiview and I already have it via CleanRom. When the day comes that 4.1.2 is pushed out by AT&T and an update is needed, will I need to unroot my phone to get that update or is there another method?

If you have a custom recovery and things frozen or deleted with titanium backup you must undo all of that and get a stock recovery and then use ota root keeper to temporarily hide the root and you should be ok
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Ahhh, Ok. Thanks!

I'm not sure why anyone would want to go back to stock if you have a custom rom already installed. Custom roms will always be a step or 2 ahead of the carrier releases. This current at&t update is only for multi window and whatever updates are released in the future are likely going to be available via custom roms long before the official carrier release anyway.

topshelf95 said:
I'm not sure why anyone would want to go back to stock if you have a custom rom already installed. Custom roms will always be a step or 2 ahead of the carrier releases. This current at&t update is only for multi window and whatever updates are released in the future are likely going to be available via custom roms long before the official carrier release anyway.
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I was rooted, running CWM, and CleanROM 3.5. I went into recovery and flashed the stock rom and it automatically downloaded and installed the update even though i had a custom recovery. After the update was complete I lost root and had stock recovery. The official ATT 4.1.2 update is way slower than CleanROM 3.5 so Im rooting and flashing back. Also cant customize toggles like the international 4.1.2.

iDrummer3 said:
I was rooted, running CWM, and CleanROM 3.5. I went into recovery and flashed the stock rom and it automatically downloaded and installed the update even though i had a custom recovery. After the update was complete I lost root and had stock recovery. The official ATT 4.1.2 update is way slower than CleanROM 3.5 so Im rooting and flashing back. Also cant customize toggles like the international 4.1.2.
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Interesting. I am running root stock with twrp. I removed root, but still have custom recovery (twrp). Flashing the update fails due to ro.secure==1 or something.
Did you do anything at all to prep for the update, maybe ta or hide root?
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How do I update my rooted GNex to 4. 3?

I got a used GNex that is rooted and on stock 4.2.2. It is a takju maguro device. I have CWM installed. I tried updating via OTA but it failed in between. How do I update to the stock 4.3 ROM?
Is there a flashable zip, or is the process more complex?
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A quick search would have given you what you needed. The N4 needs a new 4.3 boot loader and radio. The same applies for the GN but many users reported a successful update with their old configuration. However it is suggested that you do flash the 4.3 boot loader and the XLJ1 radio. There is both a zip to be flashed under CWM and a fastboot image. I suggest flashing those through fast boot. If you get a brick because go the lazy easy way, don't bother posting again. It shouldn't but the instructions are very clear. With that said, the new boot loader and radio are readily available on these forums.
On a side note, you will NEVER be able to update via the official android OTA, that is for stock devices only. That us why it failed. I'm surprised you even got a notification
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TheDareDevil said:
I got a used GNex that is rooted and on stock 4.2.2. It is a takju maguro device. I have CWM installed. I tried updating via OTA but it failed in between. How do I update to the stock 4.3 ROM?
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you do not have a stock device if the OTA failed (even with root and CWM)
why do people think that they can modify the system and still get OTAs?
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AOn a side note, you will NEVER be able to update via the official android OTA, that is for stock devices only. That us why it failed. I'm surprised you even got a notification
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if he's on a stock rom, he will get the OTA... however, he modified system files so it will never update. (what he modified is outside of root and CWM)

Thanks for the help guys. If I want to flash an unofficial 4.3 ROM, I just have to flash the zip file right?
My PC is unavailable now so I won't be able to fastboot flash atm.
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Zepius said:
you do not have a stock device if the OTA failed (even with root and CWM)
why do people think that they can modify the system and still get OTAs?
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if he's on a stock rom, he will get the OTA... however, he modified system files so it will never update. (what he modified is outside of root and CWM)
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That's EXACTLY what I said.... :/
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TheDareDevil said:
Thanks for the help guys. If I want to flash an unofficial 4.3 ROM, I just have to flash the zip file right?
My PC is unavailable now so I won't be able to fastboot flash atm.
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Its almost as if you didn't read... (Sigh)
Its people like you who shouldn't mess with their phones if you don't even bother doing your research
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iLeopard said:
That's EXACTLY what I said.... :/
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mostly what you said... he'd still get the OTA however, and you questioned how he got it. i clarified for anyone else that might be reading.
root + cwm does not elimiate the OTA working correctly. i have root and TWRP and i get OTAs fine, and they flash fine because i did not modify any stock system files.