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Total newcomer wanting to install a new ROM on a straight out of box Orange UK Hero.

Hi guys,
This is my first post so please forgive my ignorance. I have just received a brand new HTC Hero from Orange UK as a replacement for my previous Hero that went faulty.
Anyway, I really want to install the Hero 2.1 ROM. However I have only ever messed around with OS changes when I used to install leaked updates to my BlackBerry.
Can anyone point me in the direction of a comprehensive guide to doing everything I need to do to install Hero 2.1 ROM or explain it to me?
Thank you all for any help that you can offer.

http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero-hero-modaco-com/297764/the-how-to-guide/
keep in mind that the 2.1 roms available are not fully functional yet. if you want something stable with everything working as intended go for mcr3.0, but that shouldn't stop you from testing new roms! just a note.

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Thanks for the link. I'm a pretty big idiot when it comes to this stuff but I'm always willing to give it a shot.
Is there much difference between MoDaCo 3.0 and the 2.1 ROM? I'm just looking for something that is a bit faster or more up to date than a 1.5 Orange UK OS.

For faster than stock, I would suggest modaco 3.0, since 2.1 will be on the way in the new year, and it isn't quite ready for everyday use yet.
But its up to you. Just don't go installing any rru updates if you want to root or install a custom ROM in future.

check out changelog of each of their final releases..and u'll wats added to them ..and wats still not working

RRU updates?

byakkotai said:
RRU updates?
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if you make that a question you might get an answer.
if you want speed go for modaco. the 2.1 roms tend to lag here and there, and as i said are not suitable for daily use. they work great for an early preview, but that's it.

Ahh OK sorry to keep on asking what are probably inane questions. I'm guessing since nobody has mentioned RRUs with MoCaDo, that they aren't involved.
I'll see how that ROM goes, hoping it uses HTC Sense UI as I really like the look of it but it's not essential.
I think I have to update the Radio for the MoCaDo update.
I'll probably post again if the change doesn't go well or I can't do it LOL
Thanks again guys.

[Q] DHD Tmobile uk Debranding Please Help

Hello guys im new to this so please be wise. i dont know nothing on how to debrand or flash. i have DHD on tmobile Uk.. its not network locked. but its tmobile branded.. and there is alota tmobile S###T which i dont want in my phone.
Android : 2.2.1
Software Number: 1.75.110.2
How do i flash official DHD rom of an unbranded phone on my tmobile branded phone to get my phone unbranded?? Please on what i need to do ?? just a recall i donno much about these things.. so please a little detail reply will be really appreciated.
Thanks alot guys..

Leather|Face said:
Hello guys im new to this so please be wise. i dont know nothing on how to debrand or flash. i have DHD on tmobile Uk.. its not network locked. but its tmobile branded.. and there is alota tmobile S###T which i dont want in my phone.
Android : 2.2.1
Software Number: 1.75.110.2
How do i flash official DHD rom of an unbranded phone on my tmobile branded phone to get my phone unbranded?? Please on what i need to do ?? just a recall i donno much about these things.. so please a little detail reply will be really appreciated.
Thanks alot guys..
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you could try and make a goldcard and flash a generic rom, apart from that there is not much you can do, you cant root the 1.75 roms yet

ok then how do i go with the goldcard thing? btw what is a goldcard exactly ?

use search pls..there are many threads about that in the Developement Thread.
btw, mine is also tmobile branded. there are some apps ok, and the startscreen..who cares
i wouldnt install an official rom..warranty is gone and fota doesnt work as easy as now. (yeah you can flash back the stock one...)
just my 2 cents
DN41

DN41 said:
use search pls..there are many threads about that in the Developement Thread.
btw, mine is also tmobile branded. there are some apps ok, and the startscreen..who cares
i wouldnt install an official rom..warranty is gone and fota doesnt work as easy as now. (yeah you can flash back the stock one...)
just my 2 cents
DN41
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Man tmobile makes the phone run a bit slow ( talking about fastboot).. takes 2.5 sec on official rom,, takes a minute on branded rom.

Leather|Face said:
Hello guys im new to this so please be wise. i dont know nothing on how to debrand or flash. i have DHD on tmobile Uk.. its not network locked. but its tmobile branded.. and there is alota tmobile S###T which i dont want in my phone.
Android : 2.2.1
Software Number: 1.75.110.2
How do i flash official DHD rom of an unbranded phone on my tmobile branded phone to get my phone unbranded?? Please on what i need to do ?? just a recall i donno much about these things.. so please a little detail reply will be really appreciated.
Thanks alot guys..
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Leather|Face said:
Man tmobile makes the phone run a bit slow ( talking about fastboot).. takes 2.5 sec on official rom,, takes a minute on branded rom.
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I'm in the same position as Leather|Face. I know almost nothing about rooting/flashing a phone or gold cards. I also have a DHD with T-Mobile UK but want to get rid of all the branded stuff (especially the boot screen which makes booting the device take around a minute !!).
I have tried searching these forums for a solution but due to the fact I don't exactly know what I'm looking for it is quite difficult. I see a lot of "ROMs" on here for download, I don't know which one I need or if I need one at all, nor do I know how to install them. There seems to be a LOT of help guides for this kind of thing for the HTC Desire, but not the HTC Desire HD - probably because it's a lot newer, or not? This is the way I understand the process, please correct me if I'm wrong and point me in the right direction to complete these tasks;
1. First step would be to "root" my phone, which I believe gives me admin/superuser priveleges, and that's all it does right? I don't know how to do this.
2. Next I need to find the correct ROM, which would be the stock ROM for HTC Desire HD (don't know where to find this either, tried searching). Does this ROM include the unbranded version of HTC Sense UI etc, or am I on the wrong tracks?
3. Install the stock ROM, which I believe is more commonly referred to as "Flashing a ROM", is this correct? I don't know how to do this either.
As you can see from above, I have limited understanding of the process, and what I think I understand may be completely incorrect anyway! I want to find a guide to get back the stock DHD Android/Sense UI, ideally with explanations for a newbie telling me WHY I am doing specific tasks and how they affect my phone etc.
I'll be thankful for any help

mcfc4eva said:
I'm in the same position as Leather|Face. I know almost nothing about rooting/flashing a phone or gold cards. I also have a DHD with T-Mobile UK but want to get rid of all the branded stuff (especially the boot screen which makes booting the device take around a minute !!).
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1. First step would be to "root" my phone, which I believe gives me admin/superuser priveleges, and that's all it does right? I don't know how to do this.
2. Next I need to find the correct ROM, which would be the stock ROM for HTC Desire HD (don't know where to find this either, tried searching). Does this ROM include the unbranded version of HTC Sense UI etc, or am I on the wrong tracks?
3. Install the stock ROM, which I believe is more commonly referred to as "Flashing a ROM", is this correct? I don't know how to do this either.
As you can see from above, I have limited understanding of the process, and what I think I understand may be completely incorrect anyway! I want to find a guide to get back the stock DHD Android/Sense UI, ideally with explanations for a newbie telling me WHY I am doing specific tasks and how they affect my phone etc.
I'll be thankful for any help
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1. No, first step if you *really* want to do this is to look at how you downgrade from 1.7x to 1.32 (I think, check elsewhere).
2. HTC ROMs, the stock version, are just that. Networks add their stuff to customise it and that's what you're stuck with right now. I don't know which you'll need unfortunately, I'm on T-Mobile with the DHD but I got one before they were available on the site to everyone and it has no branding at all. The ROMs are RUU - ROM Update Utility but I don't think you can just flash stock over a T-Mobile branded version.
3. If you don't know how to flash a ROM then you're going to have to learn how by reading lots of threads and asking careful questions.
I can't give you links because I don't know how to go from branded to stock, I only know what I need to for my phone. I was in the middle of typing out what I think you need to do but I got stuck due to the stock ROM. I don't know if the downgrade process will work or not, and if it does work I don't know if that's downgrading to a stock ROM. I'm sorry I've just added more confusion
Suffice to say you'll need at least this information...
How to downgrade from branded to stock HTC firmware
One-click root tool at some point
Possibly / probably an install of the Android SDK to use ADB commands, not sure on this but I have it already from my G1 days.
Information on which is the stock EU or UK ROM version (RUUs remember?)
The search isn't handy when you don't know what you're looking for but hopefully this will give you somewhere to start.

Thats strange, my DHD is from T-Mobile and has no branding on it whatsoever.

right..you cant really call it fastboot on tmobile rom.
dont you think we could claim them for "doing" that? they sell the dhd with the spec "fastboot"..so its limited in its features..
DN41

Moondod said:
Thats strange, my DHD is from T-Mobile and has no branding on it whatsoever.
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thats because you bought DHD is the 1st batch of tmobile... after that all are branded..

I'll save you some time & effort...
How to downgrade:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
How to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
How to get S-OFF:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
How to flash latest radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
An excellent custom ROM based on stock but with major improvements (worth rooting just for this!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
I couldn't find a link to a rooted stock ROM but see here if you really do want to stay with stock and still have root (no reason to do this though as the ROM above will totally blow it away):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
Be sure to read all instructions and FAQs in each thread as they do explain everything about each process. If you do get stuck please ask any questions in the relevant threads for a quicker response and to reduce clutter.
Have fun!

CitizenLee said:
I'll save you some time & effort...
How to downgrade:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
How to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
How to get S-OFF:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
How to flash latest radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
An excellent custom ROM based on stock but with major improvements (worth rooting just for this!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
I couldn't find a link to a rooted stock ROM but see here if you really do want to stay with stock and still have root (no reason to do this though as the ROM above will totally blow it away):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
Be sure to read all instructions and FAQs in each thread as they do explain everything about each process. If you do get stuck please ask any questions in the relevant threads for a quicker response and to reduce clutter.
Have fun!
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THANKS ALOT DUDE,, YOUR A LIFE SAVER..

You're welcome mate, but all credit to the people who created the threads. I just used my excellent copy and paste skills

CitizenLee said:
You're welcome mate, but all credit to the people who created the threads. I just used my excellent copy and paste skills
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OO yeah man.. thanks to a realy hard work of those guys who made it possible.
btw is colors, battery life and performance realy faster in Android Revolution 2.0.6 ?

Leather|Face said:
OO yeah man.. thanks to a realy hard work of those guys who made it possible.
btw is colors, battery life and performance realy faster in Android Revolution 2.0.6 ?
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Dunno about colours but battery life and overall speed and performance are way better than stock

I was in the exact same position Dutch vodafone branded 1.75 softwareversion. I somehow managed to create a goldcard, downgrade, root my device and then S-OFF. I used the provided tutorials in the Android development section. Before that I just read alot untill I convinced myself I could do it. After that I used generic 1.72 RUU.exe via pc to flash my DHD. My device is now unbranded. Creating the goldcard was the hardest part, pay attention as you need to write mmc2/mmc2 instead of mmc1/mmc somewhere in the process.

CitizenLee said:
Dunno about colours but battery life and overall speed and performance are way better than stock
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Sounds odd but i have decided to go with the generic htc rom... so i downgrade, i root, then s-off.. but do i still flash the latest radio or after s-off i just flash the unbranded rom ?

CitizenLee said:
I'll save you some time & effort...
How to downgrade:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
How to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
How to get S-OFF:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
How to flash latest radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
An excellent custom ROM based on stock but with major improvements (worth rooting just for this!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
I couldn't find a link to a rooted stock ROM but see here if you really do want to stay with stock and still have root (no reason to do this though as the ROM above will totally blow it away):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
Be sure to read all instructions and FAQs in each thread as they do explain everything about each process. If you do get stuck please ask any questions in the relevant threads for a quicker response and to reduce clutter.
Have fun!
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I was just about to start the first process above (downgrading) when I noticed my current Build number = "1.39.110.1 CL278886 release-keys". Now I don't know what most of that means, but in the downgrading forum it says this;
System requirements:
Desire HD with build number 1.72 or higher
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Does this mean I don't need to downgrade? Is my current build number 1.39?
Regards,
--Mike

Yeah man
EDIT: This was a reponse to LeatherFace's question Android Revolution having Sense UI. My forum view must have tripped out

MAkS1 said:
I was in the exact same position Dutch vodafone branded 1.75 softwareversion. I somehow managed to create a goldcard, downgrade, root my device and then S-OFF. I used the provided tutorials in the Android development section. Before that I just read alot untill I convinced myself I could do it. After that I used generic 1.72 RUU.exe via pc to flash my DHD. My device is now unbranded. Creating the goldcard was the hardest part, pay attention as you need to write mmc2/mmc2 instead of mmc1/mmc somewhere in the process.
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dude did you flash radio or something?? or not. i need to be clear cuz im going to unbrand my DHD tonight

[Q] Some questions regarding DHD/ rooting?

Hello everyone! I own a desire hd and it's stock (soft. ver. 1.72.405.3), I must say I am ok with it that way but still I'm thinking of rooting it..
but I don't know much about that.. though I like it stock I understand there are some things it can do more...
first of all: what do I lose by rooting? the htc sense? the htc themes/ interface? the dolby surround and srs software?? see, I don't really want to return to the basic android and I like the custom htc interface..do I lose it??
second I heard about the official upgrade to 2.3 so I would be better to wait for that first?
by rooting I am mainly looking for overclocking..god, that's so cool!
so if someone can answer me the questions above, it would be great! also, if I decide to root which is the best way to do that, what programs do you recommend, is there a desire hd based ROM, and what should I do for overclocking?
thanks a lot!

First of all, your current software version cannot be rooted, you need to downgrade to an earlier version to root. You can root without installing custom roms, but most of the custom roms come with sence and all the htc additions
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

Hi,
and welcome to XDA.
The software version of your Desire HD (DHD for short) is not possible to root. In order to overclock you will need to downgrade to an earlier version (1.32).
Once downgraded rooting becomes easy. The process of rooting will not break anything, including the stuff you've mentioned. However, there is an additional layer of protection that HTC employ to prevent you from bricking you DHD. This beast is known as S-ON (Security On). In order to make persistent changes to your DHD, such as custom HTC Sense ROM's you will need to disable this, achieving S-OFF. This will break Over The Air (OTA) Updates from HTC or your network/carrier.
Again this is pretty straight forward.
If you wish to flash a new Radio you will need to have ENG S-OFF & Radio S-OFF.
The guides posted below are not created by me, they are very good and information in them will overlap slightly.
To downgrade, read this guide carefully --> Downgrading to 1.32 - Guide By jkoljo
To root & apply ENG S-OFF, read this guide carefully --> Rooting & Applying ENG S-OFF - Guide By jkoljo
To apply Radio S-OFF, read this guide carefully --> Applying Radio S-OFF - Guide By jkoljo
Once you have done all the basics we can talk you through the rest.
Let us know how you get on.

hey! thank you both
so I want to know, beside this protection that has to be disabled, the phone will act normal, right? no performance loss?
and also, if i block the update, i won't be able to update to gingerbread?
are you satisfied with the phone rooted compared to the stock?
and i'm planning to move to UK, will I be able to use it in other carrier such as o2 since I've got mine from orange RO?
Thank you
Tib!

You are correct, your DHD will not behave any differently than if the protections were enabled.
The Official Gingerbread update from HTC is still quite a while away, and all of the custom ROM Dev's will include any changes into their ROM's. So don't feel like you will miss out if you root & apply S-OFF.
Yes, I am very happy with it rooted. I can over/under clock my CPU when the situation demands, block in-app ads system wide, perform full backups of my entire DHD. These are merely scratching the surface of what root access can enable.
As for you moving to the UK, once you perform Radio S-OFF using the guide and tool described above, your DHD will not be SIM Locked to a particular network/carrier.

sounds great then.. but: it will erase all the data on the phone, right? i will lose everything
secondly, I am concerned about the rest of the process.. i will root it but after that? I'm sure all the cool stuff isn't free but i don't have access to payed apps on market, just for free ones (this is what is available for Romania at the time..) so i'm afraid i will get stuck..
thanks

Downgrading will erase all data on your DHD.
Some, not all the cool stuff are paid app's.
For instance SetCPU, the app nearly everyone uses to overclock their handsets is a paid app. But for XDA members its free. You can find it here on XDA-Devs, its all above board and legit. Other apps such as Titanium Backup have a paid app version on the Market, but also allow you buy a donate key from within the app.
I wouldn't worry about getting stuck, there are hundreds of users here all willing to help if you do.
EDIT: You can find SetCPU --> HERE, obviously if you like it and can afford to, donate to the author.

my friend, I understand there is a lot of work so I don't expect anything for free... of course I will donate (the app to download is at the end of the first thread, right?) but until now, the only access I had was to the free apps on market.
now.. I want to risk and root my phone.. (for me is an important decision) ) can I do this myself?
first I will follow the three steps you told me above and then I will look for help)
thanks

tibrocks said:
my friend, I understand there is a lot of work so I don't expect anything for free... of course I will donate (the app to download is at the end of the first thread, right?) but until now, the only access I had was to the free apps on market.
now.. I want to risk and root my phone.. (for me is an important decision) ) can I do this myself?
first I will follow the three steps you told me above and then I will look for help)
thanks
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You can do it yourself and it's perfectly safe provided you take the time to read the guides and follow the instructions carefully.
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Sent from my pimped up Desire HD in association with Rcmix HD v3.3.

ok, but please make clear: by rooting will i have a real froyo or future gingerbread or just sort of system that only acts like one of the two above?
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

by rooting it allows you to change the stock ROM (HTC sense) on your phone to another custom ROM either based on Froyo or Gingerbread

hi everyone,
i've just bought a DHD a month ago and my software version is 1.32.707.5
I have read quite a lot of thread regarding rooting the DHD but somehow i'm afraid that i brick my DHD if i try to root it because it seems that it is not as easy as running android on my HD2. My question is, is there anything i need to check before i start rooting?
Cheers

) well i'm afraid too..

well, have you done rooting your dhd?

dr.m0x said:
You can do it yourself and it's perfectly safe provided you take the time to read the guides and follow the instructions carefully.
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And It's hard to Brick the Desire HD... And for your Gingerbread Concern, The Chef's here are aware of that.. Just be patience and they will Produce ROMS with Gingerbread on it.... Enjoy Rooting....

xuldigiorgio said:
hi everyone,
i've just bought a DHD a month ago and my software version is 1.32.707.5
I have read quite a lot of thread regarding rooting the DHD but somehow i'm afraid that i brick my DHD if i try to root it because it seems that it is not as easy as running android on my HD2. My question is, is there anything i need to check before i start rooting?
Cheers
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Your on the 1.32 software so routing will be a piece of cake.
Sent from my super slick Android device.

hi , ive been reading the guides and am really keen to root my dhd, was just about to start the process when i read that it wouldn't work with my branded dhd (vodaphone, australia) is this true? was hoping to go from 1.32.178.5 to 1.72.405.3 R2 is this possible using the stock to leedroid guide?

anyone, please tell me the difference with branded and unbranded DHD? and how to check them out?

xuldigiorgio said:
anyone, please tell me the difference with branded and unbranded DHD? and how to check them out?
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as far as I know, the branded ones show the logo of the company (ex Vodafone, T-mobile.. etc)

The whole thing is really confusing to me. I do have ENG S-OFF, and already flashed a Radio and some Roms. Is ENG S-OFF better than Radio S-OFF? Or what is the difference to it?
I read some threads about it and now I am really confused..
Kick me!

[Q] Htc Desire HD sense 3.0 ?

Hi, I am new here and i need some help.
I want to install new rom with sense 3.0 on my htc desire hd, but I don't know how.
software information: Android version 2.3.3
Sense version 2.1
Software number 2.50.111.5

Hi
As I know there is not an Offical Update to Sense 3 for DHD
you'll need to root you device and flash a costum ROM.
for that you'll need to get to the Development Section - I've posted link of the FAQ section and there you'll need to read a-l-o-t before you'll take any action with your device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936214
Enjoy Reading! and if you got other question i'm suggesting read all of the posts there and you'll get your answer.

I did a ARHD upgrade using a "long" way; reading a lot of stuff, gathering a lot of tools and stuff. The upgrade task was a quite easy and quick operation after all, but before the first one you just don't know what to expect.
There is one tool which advertises to do all pre-reqs (s-off, root, clockworkmod, supercid if needed etc) in one step:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821

[Q] Update Unbranded DHD to 2.3.5

Hi all.
I wonder if I could get a little help? I am reading around the forum and am a little overcome with all of the information - not too mention Android jargon. There is a lot I don't understand and so am forced to ask.
Simple really; I have a Desire HD and it is unbranded. A friend of mine rooted the phone when it had Orange splash screen etc, and is now running 2.3.3 with sense 2.1 on a Vodafone contract.
I would like to install 2.3.5 with sense 3.0 but am baffled trying to even find it. Htc customer service said I would have to reinstall the Orange ROM to get an OTA update, which is the last thing I want to do. Can anybody point me at this update or help at all?
Forgive me being a bit of a noob, but I am sure we all were at some point.
All advice and guidance gratefully accepted