Hey, I run Omega Rom on my Note II. I need to send out about 100-150 text messages a day on a regular base and I keep getting warning messages with any SMS app I use that the app is trying to send out a large amount of sms messages.
I researched and found out it's a limitation from Jelly Bean's side. Is there a "fix" for this?? This is really annoying and driving me nuts!
That is a laaaaarge number of sms's to send. I think the limit is 100 sms every hour.
Anyways theres an apparent fix here.
Hope this helps.
elevation_2 said:
That is a laaaaarge number of sms's to send. I think the limit is 100 sms every hour.
Anyways theres an apparent fix here.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you, I will try this out
That's an awefull number of sms o send on one given day indeed. It reminds me of the teen in this country. A local news channel had a study the other day chatting about the texting habits of our today's teens. They found out that in Belize City, college kids were sending on average 1200 text messages per week .... unbelievable.
Anyways, getting back to topic. I know I'm not crazy but I swear I saw somewhere an options in the settings where you could have specified the limit number of sms. I'm on stock tho. It would be nice if you could reset the counter in the event you cannot increase the limit too.
Ron
Unfortunately the link for AOSP is dead (when you are actually about to download it).
I tried to apply it manually with SQLite Editor. Let's see if it will work tomorrow... here's hope...
Ok, that didn't work. What I did was adding the line to the settings.db (it was not in there) like explained here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30682863&postcount=21
But that didn't do the trick...
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I am trying to narrow down why some of us are having SMS lag. Lets say when you send or receive SMS, your phone lags for a few seconds to sometimes a minute. I have tried a few ROMs and still have this small amount of lag. I believe it might be the radio I am using.
TP2: TILT 2 from ATT
ROM: Feb 7th NRG Sense 2.5 from 21XXX
RADIO: 4.48.25.20
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I am trying to narrow down why some of us are having SMS lag. Lets say when you send or receive SMS, your phone lags for a few seconds to sometimes a minute. I have tried a few ROMs and still have this small amount of lag. I believe it might be the radio I am using.
TP2: TILT 2 from ATT
ROM: Feb 7th NRG Sense 2.5 from 21XXX
RADIO: 4.48.25.20
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I had some SMS lag on my stock 6.1 tmobile ROM, but it doesn't seem to be there anymore after I ran the fix to kill the "sent" notification. I can't find the cab for it just now, but you can find it easily in the forums here.
EDIT: I have radio 3.45.25.14, just fyi.
Thanks. I disabled that. Are you using Sense 2.5?
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Thanks. I disabled that. Are you using Sense 2.5?
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I just switched to Sense 2.5. I haven't been using it enough to experience this lag, but I noticed when in a text message and switching to landscape I freeze up on occasion. I have to make sure the text screen is fully loaded before sliding my keyboard.
Energy.RHOD500.21891.Leo_07.Feb.2010
I have the sms lag with official T-Mobile WMO 6.5 and Sense 2.1. When I exit a chat it hangs for 5-10 seconds everytime. I also get lags after sending SMS's. I didn't have this problem with stock 6.1.
What are the chances we get a hotfix from HTC/WMO?
I've had the sms lag with every Manila 2.5 ROM I've tried. Starts out nice and quick and then after about 3 days it's very laggy. Deleting text messages brings it back up to speed usually.
Otherwise no lag here, specs in signature.
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I am trying to narrow down why some of us are having SMS lag....
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It's simple...the core code for the sms app is crap. Like Toleraen said, if you clear out your messages it's good for a few days...or less depending on the volume of text messages that you send/receive. I send/receive anywhere from 100 to 150 messages everyday so my tilt2 doesn't take long to start lagging. The problem is within the windows mobile code. The sms code has been crap since winmo 5. I've had the treo, mogul, tp and now the tilt2 and they're all the same...lag lag lag. That's why you still see the lag even in cooked roms. I don't believe any of the core code is re-written in any of the cooked roms (correct me if i'm wrong). The problem for me is that I need to keep all my text messages (for business purposes) so I will ALWAYS experience this lag. Either way, you shouldn't need to constantly be clearing out your messages for your phone to work. With all the text messaging people do these days it needs to be a daily task, and who has time for that. Microsoft needs to re-write this app and make it more efficient. BTW, htc released a hotfix for this "sms freezing" for the tilt2 and I installed it on my tilt2 and it didn't make a bit of difference.
So, if anyone out there has actually found a real solution to this, please share.
BTW I have an att tilt2 with the stock 6.5 rom.
imeraz said:
The problem for me is that I need to keep all my text messages (for business purposes) so I will ALWAYS experience this lag.
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I think a lot of the reason I don't experience this is because I keep my sms storage trimmed almost all the time. I too need to retain a lengthy history of texts, I just use a solution that stores and backs them up off-device in a way I can quickly reference via a PC...any threads I'm not actively using get backed up (manually), singly or in batches, at least once a day. There's a number of tools that can do this, I personally use MyPhone and Jeyo Mobile Companion.
If your need to keep the messages also dictates that you need them on-device at all times, then you might want to see if any of the SMS apps available for WM have the ability to save them in an accessible format elsewhere on the phone, like in a folder on the SD card (ideally).
This obviously doesn't solve the root issue (which I agree is endemic to WM...the same exact issue occured on my Wizard and my dad's TyTN), but it's a fairly painless way to sidestep it
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I think a lot of the reason I don't experience this is because I keep my sms storage trimmed almost all the time.
This obviously doesn't solve the root issue (which I agree is endemic to WM...the same exact issue occured on my Wizard and my dad's TyTN), but it's a fairly painless way to sidestep it
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I also use a couple of tools to back up my messages (jeyo mobile extender and mIQ live) so I guess there really isn't a need for me to keep my messages on my phone. I just don't have the time to sit there and trim down my sms storage on a daily basis. Deleting messages is also a slow process on winmo. It just annoys me that something this simple and easy to reproduce passes QA and gets released to the public. It shouldn't be up to the consumer to find workarounds for these bugs. Ultimately I think it comes down to trying to keep up with the competition. Microsoft and HTC are trying so hard to keep up with the iphone, blackberry and now the droid that they've really eased up their QA process and let things like this get passed QA just to release a phone. From my standpoint, they're not doing themselves any favors by doing this.
I text about 100 times a day as well. That is sending and receiving.
I was thinking that was the problem too, and as it seems a lot of us that have experienced the lag have a lot of text messages.
It sucks because I like to keep all my text!
This never happened on the WM 6.1 on my Tilt 1 though.
Coming near a conclusion that it is the major amount of text we have guys?
With my GF thread we probably have about 1000 something text messages over the past few months.
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I text about 100 times a day as well. That is sending and receiving.
I was thinking that was the problem too, and as it seems a lot of us that have experienced the lag have a lot of text messages.
It sucks because I like to keep all my text!
This never happened on the WM 6.1 on my Tilt 1 though.
Coming near a conclusion that it is the major amount of text we have guys?
With my GF thread we probably have about 1000 something text messages over the past few months.
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Yeah I didn't have the text lag with 6.1 either. I find it quite odd and annoying.
No lag in SMS, see signature for specs.
I also get a lag with the latest mighty rom but its mostly a lag when replying to a text message or even trying to close the window for text messaging it takes 5-10 seconds at times to close. I thought it was something with the software < i wish there was some time of program to overclock how fast the sms software works
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No lag in SMS, see signature for specs.
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How much text messaging do you do on a daily basis and do you regularly clear your inbox?
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How much text messaging do you do on a daily basis and do you regularly clear your inbox?
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I text about 500 a month (based on my bill) and I keep a clean inbox. I delete it every few days.
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I text about 500 a month (based on my bill) and I keep a clean inbox. I delete it every few days.
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This is why you don't get any sms lag. I do 500 every two or three days and I don't ever delete. I need to keep my messages for business purposes. I have software that backs up my messages to outlook but I like some redundancy. Either way I don't have time to sit there and clean my inbox on a daily basis and I shouldn't have to. With the volume of texting that I do I would have to clean it every day to keep my phone from lagging. Winmo stores an "unlimited" number of text messages (provided there memory available), yet the phone doesn't work properly if the inbox is too large. To me, that's a feature wasted. If you're going to give a phone a feature, make it so that it works.
Tmobile 6.5 Rom Mine lags all the time. I'm not patient so i soft reset most of the time. it is pretty annoying
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I text about 100 times a day as well. That is sending and receiving.
I was thinking that was the problem too, and as it seems a lot of us that have experienced the lag have a lot of text messages.
It sucks because I like to keep all my text!
This never happened on the WM 6.1 on my Tilt 1 though.
Coming near a conclusion that it is the major amount of text we have guys?
With my GF thread we probably have about 1000 something text messages over the past few months.
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Same here.
Is there a 3rd party application that can be used? The only thing I can do to stop the lag, is to run traditional mode, which is not what I want. (HD2)
I disable the HTC Messaging service and use the WM client.
You can still use the HTC messaging from the contact page of a person, but it sets the WM as the default
See my post here and try it out if you want.
Theres no lag at all.
I still get the lag after I send a message and exit out of the screen to go back to sms inbox, anyone find a solution yet?
Well basically I am getting charged for some of my text messages and I do not know why.
If I send a long text message will it send as a MMS???
THanks ... this is with T-Mobile
You need to speak to tmobile.
The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?
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The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?
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Just like when you add a word tot he dictionary it will appear eith "Converting to MMS ..." once it is too long.
if memory serves, it's somewhere between 3 and 5 SMS messages in length where it changes to an MMS.
I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.
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I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.
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it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!
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it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!
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Happened to me last week, NOT COOL!
is there a way around this ?
like a config option or something like that ?
is this specific to the desire or android ?
This is standard behaviour for all Android devices, and it applies to the stock messaging app. The reason for this, is that if you are going to send more than three SMSes, it will in most cases be cheaper to send an MMS. This does not of course apply when you have unlimited texts or other discounts.
Until this gets fixed, download a replacement from the market. Try chompSMS or Handcent SMS. The automatic conversion is optional in these.
ah ok
hope this gets fixed fast
using an alternative sms program such as handcent sms or chomp sms gives you the option to break up long text messages into seperate texts instead of converting to mms
Hello,
Running Cyanogen CM6 RC1 here. I've been having trouble sending long text messages, which I initially diagnosed as a problem sending MMS.Specifically whenever I tried to send a long text message (longer than 160 chars) it would just hang and say "sending" for like 5 minutes before I get a failure report. Curiously, I had no trouble sending or receiving messages with multimedia content, like images.
After some additional tinkering and web searching, I discovered that MMS was working fine. Rather, my phone is trying to send text messages between 161 and 480 characters as SMS without breaking them apart into the appropriate number of parcels. Above 460, or 3x160, the phone is converting them to MMS and it goes through just fine.
Is there a way to change the threshold before which SMS are converted to MMS? I think all the EVO owners are pretty much on the same plan which gives us unlimited media messaging, therefore there is no point in not sending any SMS over 160 chars as an MMS. Is there a way we could change the threshold to 1? I imagine this is what HTC did in their messenger that was installed with Sense.
*Temporary solution:* If anyone else out there is having this problem, but doesn't have a solution, I have a temporary one. Simply download and use the free Handcent SMS application, and in the settings (settings>send message settings>Split 160) change the value from "Don't split" to "Simple Split". This will automatically break up messages between 161-460 into 2-3 parcels of 160 chars or less.
Handcent i think has those setting parameters.
also, this is a known issue already, and has already been greatly discussed.
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Handcent i think has those setting parameters.
also, this is a known issue already, and has already been greatly discussed.
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Sorry, I was typing an edit as you made the mention about handcent. However, I haven't found the setting that allows you to change the threshold--only to make the message split. Also, it will allow to turn off conversion altogether. Am I not seeing it?
Also, perhaps I'm not so savvy here, but I've been unable to find any solutions on forums or anywhere. If this issue is already very well discussed, any chance you provide me with a link please?
I have this same problem which is VERY annoying! Like you said I have not seen it discussed before either!
It's not a CM6 issue.
It's an Android issue.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2318
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It's not a CM6 issue.
It's an Android issue.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2318
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So it would appear then that there is no solution to this?
yeah, there is a solution. use handcent. chomp probably does it too.
btw, you may want to post your questions in the 'questions' section
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yeah, there is a solution. use handcent. chomp probably does it too.
btw, you may want to post your questions in the 'questions' section
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Ah, next time I'll use the questions section. Regarding Handcent, does this actually allow me set the threshold, or just break up longer messages into multiple SMS--I mean, does Handcent present another solution other than the one I specified in my initial post?
AFAIK, SMS length is an agreed upon standard that probably in the near future won't be changed. longer messages will be broken up into transmissable lengths of 160 chars, until a message is long enough that it is actually simpler on the network to send the whole thing as a single MMS loaf.
UPDATE: I've found a fix for this issue - AWESOME!
Just go to the Android Market and install the SMS Time Fix app by Matt Precious.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-mattprecious-smsfix-pAFq.aspx
It works perfectly, and updates the time stamp on all messages to relfect PHONE time and not network time. HINT: Make sure the "Last Resort" option is checked in the settings and offset is set to zero. This little app now makes the Evo Messages app usable. Finally...
Hope this is helpful info
Does anyone know if this issue has been fixed in the HTC Sense Froyo Update?
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So, I've been reading and experiencing several issues with SMS timestamps on the Evo 4G.
It seems there are three distinct issues with SMS timestamps on the the Evo and I believe they all have the same root cause.
Issue 1: When roaming texts are received with the wrong time stamp, offset by several hours (typically 4 or 5 hours off). This causes them to not be threaded in the conversation correctly. Very annoying.
Issue 2: When receiving SMS messages on any network (Sprint or Roaming), the time stamp is off by an hour. The result is the same as Issue 1, but a less extreme example.
Issue 3: When texting back and forth in quick succession, SMS messages are not logged in the order in which they are received, and received text messages ALWAYS appear before sent text messages if they are sent during the same minute, regardless of which one was actually sent first. This is also very annoying.
I believe the root cause is that the native Sense UI messaging app is using the timestamp of the tower of each SMS rather than using the time stored on the phone. To prove this, if you use Handcent and set it to use "phone time" and ignore the tower time, it works perfectly. The thing is that I don't want to use Handcent and I want to use the native app. Is there a setting that can be tweaked to fix this? Has anyone talked to HTC or Sprint about the issue and is a fix in the works?
For such a major problem, I am surprised more people haven't come forward. It's a pretty significant bug...
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no it has not, ive been having problems with this, ALOT.
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Hello. I'm need of help. My samsung s6 keeps receiving and seems to sending texts to and from certain contacts over and over again. Sometimes for a few hours but as long as a full day sometimes. I dont know what is happening. I was able to block texting to those contacts and it seemed to stop. Texts with these contacts was typically in a group text (mms) and would happen daily. I noticed that when we would group text sometimes some of the messages would stay pending "download" and even after several attempts to dowload it the message would just stay pending so i would just ignore it. But later in the day and/or very late that night i would start receiving all these messages which seem to be the same ones over and over again. Much more people were letting me know that they were receiving texts messages from me. Its gotten to the point where at times i just shut down my phone overnight and pray that it clears up by morning. It had been. Any help you can point me to would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Are they texts that you have composed or has your account been hacked?
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are they texts that you have composed or has your account been hacked?
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thank you for reaching out so quickly. They are texts that i have composed. At least those i can see. Its like they pop back up as a group text somehow and the messages keep coming even if i delete the group text.
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thank you for reaching out so quickly. They are texts that i have composed. At least those i can see. Its like they pop back up as a group text somehow and the messages keep coming even if i delete the group text.
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No problem. I did some research via Google and found that a fair number of people have reported the same problem (across all networks, Verizon and T-Mobile as well as Sprint) with the following results:
1) The issue seems to be tower related, so the first thing that you should do is report it to Sprint. They'll tell you that you are crazy, can't happen...stick with the report and hope that someone takes it seriously.
You can point to: https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/86838?tstart=0 and http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s5/425621-duplicate-text-messages.html and https://community.sprint.com/baw/message/558872
2) To try to fix it yourself, update PRL and Profile. If that doesn't solve it, switch to a 3rd party texting app.
If I did nothing else, hopefully I assured you that you are sane and your phone isn't haunted. Best of luck.
Thank you so much for your help. I seriously thought I was going insane. Actually thought all this was "Normal". I'm not very android savvy so can you tell me what PRL is? Sorry haven't read Cell Phones for Dummies yet. I appreciate the links. I will definitely follow up. Someone told me that I may have to do a "Factory Reset"?
RCSANCHEZ6295 said:
thank you for reaching out so quickly. They are texts that i have composed. At least those i can see. Its like they pop back up as a group text somehow and the messages keep coming even if i delete the group text.
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if it's a group message you're included in, I believe you need to have the other contacts in the group remove you from it.
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Hello elesbb.
Since I recently just found out a few days ago that all this was happening, I spoke to the contacts on the group text and they confirmed that they were receiving most if not all of these repeated group texts. So we decided to stop the group text, and I put a text block on their numbers and the repeat texts have stopped. But I'm afraid if I take off the text block Im gonna have the same problem. What I did typically see that I had many repeated copies of the texts that were either attempting or failed to download. I would get this sometimes all evening and late into the night/morning. I really dont' know what to do. I'm in the process of contacting sprint today to see if its a system or network issue.