Post if you get SMS LAG! And your specs! - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I am trying to narrow down why some of us are having SMS lag. Lets say when you send or receive SMS, your phone lags for a few seconds to sometimes a minute. I have tried a few ROMs and still have this small amount of lag. I believe it might be the radio I am using.
TP2: TILT 2 from ATT
ROM: Feb 7th NRG Sense 2.5 from 21XXX
RADIO: 4.48.25.20

SlimJ87D said:
I am trying to narrow down why some of us are having SMS lag. Lets say when you send or receive SMS, your phone lags for a few seconds to sometimes a minute. I have tried a few ROMs and still have this small amount of lag. I believe it might be the radio I am using.
TP2: TILT 2 from ATT
ROM: Feb 7th NRG Sense 2.5 from 21XXX
RADIO: 4.48.25.20
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I had some SMS lag on my stock 6.1 tmobile ROM, but it doesn't seem to be there anymore after I ran the fix to kill the "sent" notification. I can't find the cab for it just now, but you can find it easily in the forums here.
EDIT: I have radio 3.45.25.14, just fyi.

Thanks. I disabled that. Are you using Sense 2.5?

SlimJ87D said:
Thanks. I disabled that. Are you using Sense 2.5?
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I just switched to Sense 2.5. I haven't been using it enough to experience this lag, but I noticed when in a text message and switching to landscape I freeze up on occasion. I have to make sure the text screen is fully loaded before sliding my keyboard.
Energy.RHOD500.21891.Leo_07.Feb.2010

I have the sms lag with official T-Mobile WMO 6.5 and Sense 2.1. When I exit a chat it hangs for 5-10 seconds everytime. I also get lags after sending SMS's. I didn't have this problem with stock 6.1.
What are the chances we get a hotfix from HTC/WMO?

I've had the sms lag with every Manila 2.5 ROM I've tried. Starts out nice and quick and then after about 3 days it's very laggy. Deleting text messages brings it back up to speed usually.
Otherwise no lag here, specs in signature.

SlimJ87D said:
I am trying to narrow down why some of us are having SMS lag....
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It's simple...the core code for the sms app is crap. Like Toleraen said, if you clear out your messages it's good for a few days...or less depending on the volume of text messages that you send/receive. I send/receive anywhere from 100 to 150 messages everyday so my tilt2 doesn't take long to start lagging. The problem is within the windows mobile code. The sms code has been crap since winmo 5. I've had the treo, mogul, tp and now the tilt2 and they're all the same...lag lag lag. That's why you still see the lag even in cooked roms. I don't believe any of the core code is re-written in any of the cooked roms (correct me if i'm wrong). The problem for me is that I need to keep all my text messages (for business purposes) so I will ALWAYS experience this lag. Either way, you shouldn't need to constantly be clearing out your messages for your phone to work. With all the text messaging people do these days it needs to be a daily task, and who has time for that. Microsoft needs to re-write this app and make it more efficient. BTW, htc released a hotfix for this "sms freezing" for the tilt2 and I installed it on my tilt2 and it didn't make a bit of difference.
So, if anyone out there has actually found a real solution to this, please share.
BTW I have an att tilt2 with the stock 6.5 rom.

imeraz said:
The problem for me is that I need to keep all my text messages (for business purposes) so I will ALWAYS experience this lag.
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I think a lot of the reason I don't experience this is because I keep my sms storage trimmed almost all the time. I too need to retain a lengthy history of texts, I just use a solution that stores and backs them up off-device in a way I can quickly reference via a PC...any threads I'm not actively using get backed up (manually), singly or in batches, at least once a day. There's a number of tools that can do this, I personally use MyPhone and Jeyo Mobile Companion.
If your need to keep the messages also dictates that you need them on-device at all times, then you might want to see if any of the SMS apps available for WM have the ability to save them in an accessible format elsewhere on the phone, like in a folder on the SD card (ideally).
This obviously doesn't solve the root issue (which I agree is endemic to WM...the same exact issue occured on my Wizard and my dad's TyTN), but it's a fairly painless way to sidestep it

sirphunkee said:
I think a lot of the reason I don't experience this is because I keep my sms storage trimmed almost all the time.
This obviously doesn't solve the root issue (which I agree is endemic to WM...the same exact issue occured on my Wizard and my dad's TyTN), but it's a fairly painless way to sidestep it
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I also use a couple of tools to back up my messages (jeyo mobile extender and mIQ live) so I guess there really isn't a need for me to keep my messages on my phone. I just don't have the time to sit there and trim down my sms storage on a daily basis. Deleting messages is also a slow process on winmo. It just annoys me that something this simple and easy to reproduce passes QA and gets released to the public. It shouldn't be up to the consumer to find workarounds for these bugs. Ultimately I think it comes down to trying to keep up with the competition. Microsoft and HTC are trying so hard to keep up with the iphone, blackberry and now the droid that they've really eased up their QA process and let things like this get passed QA just to release a phone. From my standpoint, they're not doing themselves any favors by doing this.

I text about 100 times a day as well. That is sending and receiving.
I was thinking that was the problem too, and as it seems a lot of us that have experienced the lag have a lot of text messages.
It sucks because I like to keep all my text!
This never happened on the WM 6.1 on my Tilt 1 though.
Coming near a conclusion that it is the major amount of text we have guys?
With my GF thread we probably have about 1000 something text messages over the past few months.

SlimJ87D said:
I text about 100 times a day as well. That is sending and receiving.
I was thinking that was the problem too, and as it seems a lot of us that have experienced the lag have a lot of text messages.
It sucks because I like to keep all my text!
This never happened on the WM 6.1 on my Tilt 1 though.
Coming near a conclusion that it is the major amount of text we have guys?
With my GF thread we probably have about 1000 something text messages over the past few months.
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Yeah I didn't have the text lag with 6.1 either. I find it quite odd and annoying.

No lag in SMS, see signature for specs.

I also get a lag with the latest mighty rom but its mostly a lag when replying to a text message or even trying to close the window for text messaging it takes 5-10 seconds at times to close. I thought it was something with the software < i wish there was some time of program to overclock how fast the sms software works

wpbear said:
No lag in SMS, see signature for specs.
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How much text messaging do you do on a daily basis and do you regularly clear your inbox?

imeraz said:
How much text messaging do you do on a daily basis and do you regularly clear your inbox?
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I text about 500 a month (based on my bill) and I keep a clean inbox. I delete it every few days.

wpbear said:
I text about 500 a month (based on my bill) and I keep a clean inbox. I delete it every few days.
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This is why you don't get any sms lag. I do 500 every two or three days and I don't ever delete. I need to keep my messages for business purposes. I have software that backs up my messages to outlook but I like some redundancy. Either way I don't have time to sit there and clean my inbox on a daily basis and I shouldn't have to. With the volume of texting that I do I would have to clean it every day to keep my phone from lagging. Winmo stores an "unlimited" number of text messages (provided there memory available), yet the phone doesn't work properly if the inbox is too large. To me, that's a feature wasted. If you're going to give a phone a feature, make it so that it works.

Tmobile 6.5 Rom Mine lags all the time. I'm not patient so i soft reset most of the time. it is pretty annoying

SlimJ87D said:
I text about 100 times a day as well. That is sending and receiving.
I was thinking that was the problem too, and as it seems a lot of us that have experienced the lag have a lot of text messages.
It sucks because I like to keep all my text!
This never happened on the WM 6.1 on my Tilt 1 though.
Coming near a conclusion that it is the major amount of text we have guys?
With my GF thread we probably have about 1000 something text messages over the past few months.
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Same here.
Is there a 3rd party application that can be used? The only thing I can do to stop the lag, is to run traditional mode, which is not what I want. (HD2)

I disable the HTC Messaging service and use the WM client.
You can still use the HTC messaging from the contact page of a person, but it sets the WM as the default
See my post here and try it out if you want.
Theres no lag at all.

I still get the lag after I send a message and exit out of the screen to go back to sms inbox, anyone find a solution yet?

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Threaded SMS app that works properly?

I have tried the Palm ripped threader for wm6 which I love because of its integration in and just appealing user interface but it seems to have some severe problems. Sometimes after closing the program after sending a message the CommManager or other programs will also pop up behind the palm app and I will have to close them too. The worst part though is that it almost always sends duplicate previous messages. Currently I am using PocketCM for my contacts and sms messaging but it has drawbacks like trying to send a message to someone that isnt a contact.
So yeah, I would really like to find a text message threading app like the palm one but that doesnt send duplicate messages over and over again, any suggestions or am I SOL?
My vote - stick with Palm Messaging
I've been using the WM6 "Palm" messaging since I first converted to WM6 (and the previous version on WM5 too) and it's always worked flawlessly.
The duplicate messages problem is a known one with ANY of the text messaging systems on the phone. It occurs when the application is closed shortly after a message is sent, the phone thinks it didn't go so sends it again. To fix it, either add the palm messaging as an exception to your X-button task manager, or (as I do) simply press the OK button on the phone to minimise it rather than close it. That should also avoid your CommManager popping up too.
Never used PocketCM, so don't know if/how that might be interfering with it though.
Good luck.
Extreme Text
This is not a Freeware, but it works very well, and uses the Messaging Inbox. There is an update due out in about to weeks where he is planning to implement a lot of the request made in the forum. Below is the link to the authors website.
http://www.birdsoft.biz/extremetext.htm
Confused Stu said:
I've been using the WM6 "Palm" messaging since I first converted to WM6 (and the previous version on WM5 too) and it's always worked flawlessly.
The duplicate messages problem is a known one with ANY of the text messaging systems on the phone. It occurs when the application is closed shortly after a message is sent, the phone thinks it didn't go so sends it again. To fix it, either add the palm messaging as an exception to your X-button task manager, or (as I do) simply press the OK button on the phone to minimise it rather than close it. That should also avoid your CommManager popping up too.
Never used PocketCM, so don't know if/how that might be interfering with it though.
Good luck.
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I found what you were talking about, it is the same application but a different [newer?] version. I have been using it about half the day so far and no reports yet of duplicate messages. I think you answered my question!!!

Text Messaging Problems

Anyone else have problems with text messaging?
Scenario: I receive a text message, the notification pops up on screen. I have my phone handy, so i hit the reply button.
The phone takes me to Windows Mobile text messaging. I send my text message reply. If the same person texts me back, it is not registered as being read.
So i exit the screen back to the TouchFlo 3d menu. I have a new text message (that i have already seen and read)
So i go to the windows mobile text system to read it...again.
NOW, lets say i have a full conversation with someone. 30 messages later, I still have 30 unread messages, every time i open the windows mobile text messanger, it removes ONE new message, not all.
So, i never get to use the TouchFlo 3d messenger, which is half decent, and the WM6.1 text messenger is stupid.
Does anyone know of a setting, or a third party text program that will over ride this crap, or am i just hoping this all works out.
Am i really the only one who has text messaging difficulties?
kamitsuna said:
Am i really the only one who has text messaging difficulties?
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this is a known issue my friend...
download SafeInBoxExtender... search the main forum...
it will let you "mark all messages as read" ..
it will cure your problem right up..
*nods* i have it already, it doesnt exactly "cure" the problem, UGH!
We shouldnt have to come up with stupid fixes for stuff microsoft should already have fixed.
Is 6.5 slated to fix some of this garbage?
I have another problem
i cant use the TF messaging
allot of times it tells me message not sent
and if not there is no delivery report
i found out the there is a TF delivery report i must check 1st
but its not fixed !!!
when i go out of the message it becoms unchecked !!
So at the end i used the Win messaging with no problems there
but i wish i can just click the incoming message and reply right away
hmm how odd, i don't have either of those issues.
Which version of the TP2 are you guys using?
karandras24 said:
hmm how odd, i don't have either of those issues.
Which version of the TP2 are you guys using?
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U mean u reply on sms from the TF thread mode with no problems and u receive a delivery report ???
without having to use the Win messaging mode ?
why me then?
hope any one can help me
my Rom version is 1.19.415.1
dated 06/12/09
im using the sprint TP2
Another partial fix here...Partial because Ive only using the new dll for a bout a week(not sure of long temr effects) & I cant make a successful backup using sprite backup etc without adding the dll files to the exclude list of files to backup.
im not quite sure i understand what you just said.

25 SMS Limit

Hi all, I read the other thread on this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=568361&highlight=text+message+limit) and figured I'd start a new one rather than resurrect that one out of nowhere. I understand the whole "Manilla only shows 25 texts while the others are actually saved" thing, but does anyone know of a way to get all of them visible on the manilla interface? I'd much rather see 1/x number of messages on the sms tab than 1/25 just for the sake of knowing how many texts i have stored.
Thanks
I dont think this is possible, and I am not exactly sure that you would want this because Manilla Caches the messages, i could be wrong though, but if it does cache the messages, you would be very unhappy with your device's performance. I send about 500 messages a day, and recieve a little more than that, messages are about 5k each, thats about an additional 2 megabytes of cache, sounds like a little, but sense struggles to run as it is.

Messages App slow after 2.2 Update?

Ever since the 2.2 Update, the entire Messages app for me has been laggy.
Starting the Messages app from the home screen is SLOW, but switching from one conversation to another is terribly slow as well. For a few conversations, I do have 1000+ messages each.
But the kicker is that while I was on 2.1 (as shipped, never updated to 1.4x) I had no slowness and lag with opening the Messages app, and switching between various conversations.
Anyone else notice degradation in performance for this app? I will be setting up Purging to get the normal performance back, but I am lost as to why it's behaving this way post 2.2 update.
I second this. My evo is slow when texting but everything else is great.
My wifes evo is not rooted and fully stock. Her Messages application has been getting slower and slower as she texts more and more. I would imagine that the massive amounts of texts combined with multimedia messages are bogging down the phones memory. Trying to delete messages is not working either.
I've erased all messages on my evo and texting is fast as ever. So, the problem has to lie with the amount of data the phone has to sift through in the application.
If anyone has extra input please help.
generalExpert said:
My wifes evo is not rooted and fully stock. Her Messages application has been getting slower and slower as she texts more and more. I would imagine that the massive amounts of texts combined with multimedia messages are bogging down the phones memory. Trying to delete messages is not working either.
I've erased all messages on my evo and texting is fast as ever. So, the problem has to lie with the amount of data the phone has to sift through in the application.
If anyone has extra input please help.
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Solved by erasing her over 10,000 texts!!!

Extremely Wierd SMS issue

Hi, I am currently experiencing a wierd SMS issue on my Desire running Robo's HD rom 0.13. Lets point out first that my sms is fine, I can send and receive texts perfectly. Except for one contact.
Me and my girlfriend text a lot, and I believe my phone doesn't want me to. Whenever I text her, she texts back, and I go to text her back,it says message not sent. However, if I delete the thread (with two messages in) and create new message,it sends fine. Baring in mind we exchange around 100sms per day, I am having to delete the thread and create a new text message just to get one through, which is getting quite annoying. I shall just stress this is the only contact out of the 25-30 people I text regularly who I am having this problem with. The things I have tried are:
Deleting and creating new contact
Changing her number to various formats (+44, 44, 07 etc)
Reboots (many of them)
Changing her contact name
Different sms apps (chomp, stock, handcent)
Nothing has worked, and the problem still remains. I would really like this sorted, as it is getting quite annoying. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
tucka20 said:
Hi, I am currently experiencing a wierd SMS issue on my Desire running Robo's HD rom 0.13. Lets point out first that my sms is fine, I can send and receive texts perfectly. Except for one contact.
Me and my girlfriend text a lot, and I believe my phone doesn't want me to. Whenever I text her, she texts back, and I go to text her back,it says message not sent. However, if I delete the thread (with two messages in) and create new message,it sends fine. Baring in mind we exchange around 100sms per day, I am having to delete the thread and create a new text message just to get one through, which is getting quite annoying. I shall just stress this is the only contact out of the 25-30 people I text regularly who I am having this problem with. The things I have tried are:
Deleting and creating new contact
Changing her number to various formats (+44, 44, 07 etc)
Reboots (many of them)
Changing her contact name
Different sms apps (chomp, stock, handcent)
Nothing has worked, and the problem still remains. I would really like this sorted, as it is getting quite annoying. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Tried another radio?
jmelhus said:
Tried another radio?
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Yep, forgot to mention have used both 5.09.05.30 and 5.10.05.30 with the same results. She has no problem texting me (hero with cm 6 froyo), nor does her friend texting her (stock 2.2 desire)
tucka20 said:
Yep, forgot to mention have used both 5.09.05.30 and 5.10.05.30 with the same results. She has no problem texting me (hero with cm 6 froyo), nor does her friend texting her (stock 2.2 desire)
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Well, I'm experiencing it sometimes as well on my phone, but not as frequent as you are describing here.
I had this issue once with a Sony Ericson. It dissapeared when changing carrier and sim. Maybe you can try a "pay as you go" sim card for one day?

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