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Best music player for TP2

So which one do u choose ?
CorePlayer
Nitrogen player
Windows media player
TF3D music player
or others?
Plz post your reasons too

so? 90 views and no answers

i'm using pocket player . it works great
and i'm using it with jabra stereo blutooth headset.

TF3D music player
I've been using the TF3D music player on my tp2 for about a month now and it seems to be doing all that i need from it.
Simple to use and good quality output as well. Can't say much about other music players as I haven't used any recently.

in order to get as much music on my phone as possible i am using aac compressed audio (with SBR). This format provides 128kbit/s-mp3-quality at 48kbit/s (at least to my ears).
The only players that i know supporting this format are WMP and TCPMP. As TCPMP does software decoding the device gets slow during playback. WMP seems to have something like hardware acceleration for aac. therefore i am using WMP (with another skin as the default one is not very finger friendly).

thanks yeah i like the TF3D default myself too Nitrogen is good but i think the volume is a little low compared to TF3D player,i use coreplayer for movies and TF3D for musics,just wanted to know other opinions

while the htc audio manager is nice, NITROGEN is now my player of choice despite minor bugs.

WMP works well for me. Don't like the skin but I have downloaded an HTC-like theme so it is all good.

pocket player too
wide variety of audio format support (4.x supports aac), AVRCP support, plugin to add pitch adjustment

Power Problems
Mesquire said:
while the htc audio manager is nice, NITROGEN is now my player of choice despite minor bugs.
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How did you get the player to play in power saving mode. with the screen off. Whenever I do this it stops the music, and some times, even unloads my memory card.
This has been my biggest bain and major issue with my tmobile tp2. I have tried Mortplayer and Nitrogen, the best IMHO and have had the same issue. I have tried different searches to enable the device to let the music play while the screen is off and none have worked. I am going to try S2P. My only gripe witht that program is that it does not play all file formats.
Oh well...

Coreplayer.
Has EQ, bass boost and pre-amp options and also is the best video player.

juliangun4ev said:
i'm using pocket player . it works great
and i'm using it with jabra stereo blutooth headset.
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yeah,Pocket Music Player is the thing,it can auto power off and power on,holy ****,which else can be as nice as this one?

+1 for Pocket Player.
My reasons: AVRCP support (a must have feature for me), wide format support (many free players don't support wma, which is a deal breaker for me), equalizer, gapless playback(!), quite finger friendly (some buttons are rather small on the default skin, but it has kinetic scrolling etc.)...
Video support is a bit lacking, but then again I only use it for audio.

I use Pocket Player as well, mostly because it works well for both music and audio books. I am frustrated with whatever method it uses for shuffle, though. I've had 6 different songs play 2-4 times in 4 hours. I have nearly 1000 songs and 66 hours of music! Seems like I should not be getting that kind of repetition.

Pocket Player problems with playing large MP3 files...
One thing guys - and anyone who uses Pocket Player on the TP2 may have seen this... I listen to a lot of voice audio. I prefer to combine the files for audio and can sometimes have long audio files of 300 megs all the way to 1.2 gigs (I use a 16 gig storage card).
The problem i have seen is that sometimes the control that shows where you are in the audio file goes haywire and slides from the correct position all the way to the right - making the bookmarking feature fail and impossible to navigate. Additionally it appears Pocket Player somehow miscalculates the size and length of the audio - but it originally has the size and length correct - this only happens after a certain point (for me it seems after about 240 minutes or so - about 4 hours in).
WHat is so strange is this does NOT happen for all audio files on this device. Some of the large files seem to play fine without problem. Additionally when I compare this to another TP2 that has an installation of the competitor program Pocket Music, this does NOT happen. Also this never happenedon our original HTC Mogul from Sprint.
The problem is we need the AVRCP controls and we all know that Conduits is the only company that has addressed this. It's also pathetic that HTC themselves has continued down this path and refuses to even comment on this issue.
2 questions to this wonderful community of genius people who take it upon themselves to fix what should have been included in the first place:
1. Has anyone seen a hack / mod that will fix the AVRCP controls so that programs like Pocket Music and other players can be used via Bluetooth remote controls?
2. Has anyone seen this specific issue with Pocket Player (which has that beautiful speed plugin that does not alter pitch - love that) and if so - is there a fix or workaround for large files 'breaking' in the middle of playing so that you can no longer save your position or know the correct position of the player in the middle of the MP3 being played?
Thanks in advance to all of you who have any suggestions on either issue.

I'm using Kinoma Play, though mainly for its integration with Orb and video abilities.
For music it supports album art, but only has bass and treble adjustments, not an equalizer.
There is a Kinoma Free you can try.

I am searching for the perfect player and have been testing several of them to see how they work. In addition to some of the normal music player requirements I have 2 pet peeves in particular:
1) The player must support the "Album Artist" tag so that compilations are listed properly in the library.
2) Proper alphabetization - "The Beatles" should be listed under the B's not incorrectly under the T's.
I am testing Pocket Player right now. So far it is the only music player that supports and uses the "Album Artist" tag and it does so by default. It does not support proper alpha. AVRCP works fine out of the box.
The HTC player has the advantage in that it is the only player that can be integrated on the TF3D tabs but does not utilize the "Album Artist" tag nor uses proper alpha. It also has a serious bug that prevents it listing and playing a albums tracks in the correct order. AVRCP of course works well.
WMP supports proper alpha but not the "Album Artist" tag. Strange since MS pioneered the use of the "Album Artist" tag in the desktop version of WMP. AVRCP works fine.
CorePlayer is an evil company. I will never buy or use any SW they make.
Kinoma is next up on my list.
I wish I could find a music player that addresses both of my pet peeves and could be integrated into the TF3D tab replacing the HTC one. That would be the perfect player for me.
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sleonard said:
2) Proper alphabetization - "The Beatles" should be listed under the B's not incorrectly under the T's.
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I understand what you're saying but I would argue that any player that puts that artist name under B is the one doing it incorrectly. If you want The Beatles under the B's then you should rename those tracks to the album artist "Beatles."

For the people that got the TF3D music to work, please share your magic on having it identify your library from a storage card.

moSess said:
How did you get the player to play in power saving mode. with the screen off. Whenever I do this it stops the music, and some times, even unloads my memory card.
This has been my biggest bain and major issue with my tmobile tp2. I have tried Mortplayer and Nitrogen, the best IMHO and have had the same issue. I have tried different searches to enable the device to let the music play while the screen is off and none have worked. I am going to try S2P. My only gripe witht that program is that it does not play all file formats.
Oh well...
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I know this question is like 2 months old but I use Nitrogen and its good enough for me...very finger friendly! And on the main screen there's a button that looks like a Power Button under the volume keys...thats how you put it into "sleep mode" and music will continue playing.

Best music player with flac support

Hi,
I was using Winamp but it doesn't have FLAC support. I've tried downloading LePlayer and Meridian, which both claim to have FLAC support, but it doesn't find any of the FLAC files in my sdcard. I can open FLAC files in ES File Explorer and choose Meridian and it'll play, but I'd like something that detects them automatically.
Thanks.

CM7 has FLAC support

I'm using Virtuous Sense, not CM7.

I started using the beta of GoneMad Media Player. It seems to be pretty good, and have some great features, .flac support as well.

Thanks. Does it discover flac files automatically?

goister: I have a burning question for you.
Obviously if you care enough to listen to .flac files you must be an audiophile of some sort. And the thing that bothered me is that my 5 year old Samsung YP-P2 MP3 player with DNSE 2.0 sounds SOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than any of the new phones, even with their Beat Mod crap.
I was thinking, is there any app or anything you can do to the phone that will make it produce quality playback?

Sorry, can't help you there. I suppose a headphone amp would help, but I'm not an audiophile anymore. I used to be (hence the flac files) but now I just enjoy the music as much as I can on my phone and a Sennheiser C300.
I don't think there's much you can do though, as phones are made with very tight tolerances in size and integration, so usually corners are cut in audio performance since most people can't tell the difference.

ATM, I am downloading Neutron Music Player. From the description, it seems to be good. Will test and let you know.
=O
It's pretty good!
If you don't wanna buy it, just pm me =P
EDIT: Still not as good as my Samsung player, but better than all the other's i tried.
Edit 2: I failed to press menu. Once I did, they had soooooo much options to fiddle with. I ended up tweaking the settings for like half an hour and got my phone on par with my mp3 player!
Super good! Highly recommend!

Does Neutron automatically discover flac and other non mp3 audio files?

no clue, but on their main site it lists like 30 different formats lol.
And Flac was one of em.

How about Andless?

Sound Enhancer only works with certain formats

I had been encoding all my music in wma 10 pro as it provided the best integrity of the lossy formats supported by wp7. Not everything was encoded in the same format, though. HTC Sound Enhancer didn't seem to be working and I thought it was a hardware issue because it was universal with every rom I used. Then, I noticed that sometimes the enhancement would work with certain songs. I took a look at them and realized it was the wma 10's that didn't work with it. I transcoded them to m4a's and now they work with the enhancement.
I just thought it was an interesting find and thought I'd share it.

I think I should clarify that by it not working, I don't mean it would crash; there was simply no difference in the sound between settings. Everything was the default flat sound.

Gapless Playback on Jellybean

Is gapless playback working for anyone on Jellybean? I heard it was supposed to work with Google music but there's still gaps in between my songs.
Sent from my Jellybean powered Galaxy Nexus

BLAQK ROXSTAR said:
Is gapless playback working for anyone on Jellybean? I heard it was supposed to work with Google music but there's still gaps in between my songs.
Sent from my Jellybean powered Galaxy Nexus
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From what I've read in the developer docs, gapless playback requires implementing a new feature in apps from the Jellybean SDK. I have a music app that I'll be modifying to use this, within the next month or so. I'm going to wait for the official JB OTA release for my US GSM Galaxy Nexus so I have a stable phone to test it with.

highvista said:
From what I've read in the developer docs, gapless playback requires implementing a new feature in apps from the Jellybean SDK. I have a music app that I'll be modifying to use this, within the next month or so. I'm going to wait for the official JB OTA release for my US GSM Galaxy Nexus so I have a stable phone to test it with.
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I wanted to follow up on my post above. I was able to implement gapless playback within my music app via the Jelly Bean/4.1 Android SDK. It works wonderfully. It's great to finally be able to listen to _Dark Side of the Moon_ on my phone without gaps!

highvista said:
I wanted to follow up on my post above. I was able to implement gapless playback within my music app via the Jelly Bean/4.1 Android SDK. It works wonderfully. It's great to finally be able to listen to _Dark Side of the Moon_ on my phone without gaps!
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Mine explaining how you did it? :laugh:

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Mine explaining how you did it? :laugh:
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Most the credit goes to Google for introducing the ability within the Jelly Bean/4.1 SDK.
Android has a MediaPlayer class that takes care of all the underlying needs of media playback. You create an instance of this class and use different method calls to control playback. Prior to Jelly Bean, when the end of a music track was reached, a "completion listener" would be called, where the programmer could set up code to handle loading the next track into the MediaPlayer instance and then start play of this next track. Jelly Bean introduced a setNextMediaPlayer() method. Now, instead of having just one MediaPlayer instance, the programmer can have two. The first one is the "current" player and is the one actively playing a track. The second one is the "next" media player and is prepared with the next track in sequence and is passed to the current player via a call to its setNextMediaPlayer() method. When the current media player reaches the end of the track it is playing, the next media player immediately starts playing the next track. Thus, no gap while the app messes about with loading up the next track in the current player via the completion listener.
The completion listener is still needed to handle updating UI elements, as well as telling the app to swap the roles of the current and next media player instances and load up the next track.
I'd imagine most developers have or will soon be implementing gapless playback, since it's pretty straight-forward now. If you're interested, I just released the updated version of my app that includes gapless playback. It's called Just Playlists and can be found at Google Play.

just FYI, I use PowerAMP, and it does gapless playback great. on Jelly Bean (and it did gapless playback on ICS as well - no problems).

jss2 said:
just FYI, I use PowerAMP, and it does gapless playback great. on Jelly Bean (and it did gapless playback on ICS as well - no problems).
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From what I understand, PowerAMP uses custom media player code rather than the built-in Android MediaPlayer class, so they were able to code in gapless playback from scratch.

Yeah, AFAIK Winamp has gapless playback too, but I want the stock music player to do that. I hate to install another app that does the same that the built-in one.
The same happens with the browser. I only installed Chome because I like the sync feature. Other than that I would stick with the stock browser.
Cheers!

el_charlie said:
Yeah, AFAIK Winamp has gapless playback too, but I want the stock music player to do that. I hate to install another app that does the same that the built-in one.
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Since Google has added gapless playback support to the Jelly Bean SDK, I'd guess that the stock player will eventually support gapless playback when run on a device with Jelly Bean. I'd have thought Google would have added this into the stock player immediately. Hopefully soon.

For what its worth... I've downloaded and played with pretty much every big Media Player on the market in the hunt for perfect Gapless Playback. From my testing I can say that it does not exist!!
The player I found to handle it the best was GONEMAD MUSIC PLAYER. Although there was still a very very slight gap in between songs. Listening to mix albums or Pink floyd albums (as Member was saying above) tend to provide a pretty good test to any 'Gapless' player.
I only hope that JellyBean can solve this!!
MEMBER - I've downloaded your app to give it a go too!

zim_zimmer said:
For what its worth... I've downloaded and played with pretty much every big Media Player on the market in the hunt for perfect Gapless Playback. From my testing I can say that it does not exist!!
The player I found to handle it the best was GONEMAD MUSIC PLAYER. Although there was still a very very slight gap in between songs. Listening to mix albums or Pink floyd albums (as Member was saying above) tend to provide a pretty good test to any 'Gapless' player.
I only hope that JellyBean can solve this!!
MEMBER - I've downloaded your app to give it a go too!
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So far, playback of all my "gapless" albums using my app with the new Jelly Bean code has sounded perfect running on my Galaxy Nexus. I've played through my Pink Floyd collection and have been very pleased that the gaps are gone.

highvista said:
Most the credit goes to Google for introducing the ability within the Jelly Bean/4.1 SDK.
Android has a MediaPlayer class that takes care of all the underlying needs of media playback. You create an instance of this class and use different method calls to control playback. Prior to Jelly Bean, when the end of a music track was reached, a "completion listener" would be called, where the programmer could set up code to handle loading the next track into the MediaPlayer instance and then start play of this next track. Jelly Bean introduced a setNextMediaPlayer() method. Now, instead of having just one MediaPlayer instance, the programmer can have two. The first one is the "current" player and is the one actively playing a track. The second one is the "next" media player and is prepared with the next track in sequence and is passed to the current player via a call to its setNextMediaPlayer() method. When the current media player reaches the end of the track it is playing, the next media player immediately starts playing the next track. Thus, no gap while the app messes about with loading up the next track in the current player via the completion listener.
The completion listener is still needed to handle updating UI elements, as well as telling the app to swap the roles of the current and next media player instances and load up the next track.
I'd imagine most developers have or will soon be implementing gapless playback, since it's pretty straight-forward now. If you're interested, I just released the updated version of my app that includes gapless playback. It's called Just Playlists and can be found at Google Play.
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There is more to gapless playback than just playing one song immediately after the other finishes without waiting for the completion listener for formats like mp3 and aac. This works fine for the natively gapless formats like ogg and flac

GoneMADSoftware said:
There is more to gapless playback than just playing one song immediately after the other finishes without waiting for the completion listener for formats like mp3 and aac. This works fine for the natively gapless formats like ogg and flac
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That's probably true, but whatever needs to be done to make gapless playback work is being taken care of by the process I describe, when using the setNextMediaPlayer() method. The documentation for the SDK indicates that this is what the new method is for, and it definitely works for the MP3 format, which is the format that I use for my music collection.

Gapless solved (but 1 issue remains)
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...definitely works for the MP3 format...
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Yes, works for my MP3s, and they are encoded VBR (variable bitrate), on my S4 Mini with ver 4.2.2 of Jellybean. Tried lots of other players, none has true gapless playback. Finally, Just Playlists and Just Playlists Plus have solved the gapless issue. This leaves only one other major feature still to be desired but not available in any Android music player: Skinnability
There are music players on Android that let you choose skin style, color, etc. But not one supports skinability via XML coding, yet. (Hopefully, somebody can prove me wrong by pointing to a truely skinable player. Or better yet, Keith Folsom will provide skinnability for JPP's main UI screen?)
Edit: UberMusic appears to have been skinnable for years! (I'll soon find out for sure.)
http://www.ubermusic.com/skinning/
Edit #2: Now I find that Poweramp has gapless playback, is skinnable, and has a currently active forum thread for skinning:
http://forum.powerampapp.com/index.php?/topic/3578-building-skins-quick-start-guide/

Gapless Test results
Did some testing re gapless playback with MP3s on my S4 Mini. Here are results:
The stock Samsung 'Music' player:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
UberMusic Player:
PowerAmp:
Just Playlists:
For details see my report, here:
https://googledrive.com/host/0BywTBh0QvABcQXY2R3pYUGk2cm8

zim_zimmer said:
...player I found to handle it the best was GONEMAD MUSIC PLAYER. Although there was still a very very slight gap
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Quite right. Sorry to have miss'd GMMP in my recent tests. Better late than never; it has now been put to the same test, and has come out better than Poweramp for playing tracks completely with smallest gap. But still, Just Playlists remains the winner for zero gap with slightest cut into a track.
GoneMAD Music Player:

BLAQK ROXSTAR said:
Is gapless playback working for anyone on Jellybean? I heard it was supposed to work with Google music but there's still gaps in between my songs.
Sent from my Jellybean powered Galaxy Nexus
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I have no problem with gapless playback using Player Pro on ShinyROM 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 or any previous AOSP-based ROM.

eKeith said:
I have no problem with gapless playback using Player Pro on ShinyROM 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 or any previous AOSP-based ROM.
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Maybe because you have OGG music files, or AAC with gapless info in ID tags? When I put PlayerPro to the same test as above, the result was a 0.427 second gap with waveform similar to UberMusic. But it was the *trial* version, which had some playback selection choices gray'd out. The gapless checkbox was gray, but it clearly was check'd. I don't know whether this means it functions the same as the paid version and nothing at PlayerPro's website nor on Google Play Store provides any clue re gapless playback or differences between trial vs paid versions.

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Maybe because you have OGG music files, or AAC with gapless info in ID tags? When I put PlayerPro to the same test as above, the result was a 0.427 second gap with waveform similar to UberMusic. But it was the *trial* version, which had some playback selection choices gray'd out. The gapless checkbox was gray, but it clearly was check'd. I don't know whether this means it functions the same as the paid version and nothing at PlayerPro's website nor on Google Play Store provides any clue re gapless playback or differences between trial vs paid versions.
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All of my files (excepting my Amazon auto-rips) are Level 5 Compressed FLACs ripped with dBpoweramp.
I also do not know if there are any differences/shortcomings with the trial version of PalyerPro. Perhaps you can consider purchasing and testing within the 15 minute refund window...

eKeith said:
All of my files (excepting my Amazon auto-rips) are Level 5 Compressed FLACs...
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...works fine for the natively gapless formats like ogg and flac
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Apparently, FLAC is 'natively' gapless. Amazon rips vary widely, some VBR, some CBR, some even go a little way into the following track! Thanks for the 15-min refund idea, didn't know about that. Bought it for keeps anyway, due to the nice way it handles my huge oldies folder, better than any other player for that useful listing.
Got the same result as trial version out of the box as is. Gapless setting was still gray. I figured the DSP pack is necessary. After installing and activating, there was a big improvement. No more clicks, first track no longer getting cut off short, and the gap got reduced.
PlayerPro (with DSP pack):

[Q] Video Encoding Settings?

So, I have my N72013, and my 1080p MKV files play, but the audio doesn't. I was wondering if anyone has played with Handbrake / h.264 settings / whatever to get some good quality video on here. I'm more concerned with quality than size.
I'm not super familiar with video encoding, but I'm using handbrake on OSX. Thanks in advance!

I regularly use Handbrake. What is the original source (Blu-ray?) and what are your settings under the Audio tab?

phydo said:
So, I have my N72013, and my 1080p MKV files play, but the audio doesn't. I was wondering if anyone has played with Handbrake / h.264 settings / whatever to get some good quality video on here. I'm more concerned with quality than size.
I'm not super familiar with video encoding, but I'm using handbrake on OSX. Thanks in advance!
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Same issue. Try using MX player with this custom codec : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156254.
It worked for me

Pandae said:
I regularly use Handbrake. What is the original source (Blu-ray?) and what are your settings under the Audio tab?
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Well, the original source is a downloaded MKV. I swear it's all legit. the file has .1080p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H.264 appended to it. so it's already an h.264 mkv. I'd prefer to play it in the stock media player on android if possible, with audio. I'm not big on having more apps... kinda freaks me out. I'd rather transcode all the audio in these videos to make it work lol. Yes, I'm that guy.
My audio settings that I'm going to use are whatever you tell me. I haven't transcoded anything yet, because I figured I'd ask here before I made a mistake. Couldn't find much in the way of google besides forum.doom9.org/archive/index.php/t-168407.html - but it wasn't clear to me since I'm not familiar with this stuff, and I think it's more an audio format issue than a video.

If audio was encoded with something that MX Player doesn't handle natively, then as NeXuS7_uSeR said, you'll need a custom codec. It would be faster than re-encoding, unless you wanted to reduce file size in exchange for video quality loss.
Handbrake can change the audio codec, if you've never experimented with that. You can mix down an audio track to regular stereo tracks encoded in MP3, which then any player should handle.

Pandae said:
If audio was encoded with something that MX Player doesn't handle natively, then as NeXuS7_uSeR said, you'll need a custom codec. It would be faster than re-encoding, unless you wanted to reduce file size in exchange for video quality loss.
Handbrake can change the audio codec, if you've never experimented with that. You can mix down an audio track to regular stereo tracks encoded in MP3, which then any player should handle.
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is MX Player really that earth shattering where it's worthwhile downloading as an app?

phydo said:
is MX Player really that earth shattering where it's worthwhile downloading as an app?
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It's been my favorite. I've tried others but don't care for the interfaces. When Android 4.3 broke most video players, I found one that was pretty good (name escapes me right now) except that it didn't handle subtitles well. I keep coming back to MX.

Pandae said:
It's been my favorite. I've tried others but don't care for the interfaces. When Android 4.3 broke most video players, I found one that was pretty good (name escapes me right now) except that it didn't handle subtitles well. I keep coming back to MX.
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Just as a follow up, I did find this commit in CM11
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/56453/
from two days ago. maybe I need an update