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Hey guys,
I'm using the MHL Adapter from BizLink and tried viewing a 720p movie with DTS Sound.
The playback lagged . I don't know why..
I used the Dice Player, because it's supporting DTS, also i'm using a 5m HDMI cable.
But why is the movie lagging? There are kinda microlags..
Resolution: 720p
Video Bitrate: 5586 kbps
Audio Stream: DTS 5.1
x264
Maybe the Player causes the problem, because another 720p movie was played well (Samsung stock player). btw: the phone was very hot after watching the above mentioned (DTS) movie.
Does anyone has some ideas?
Ya some 720p movies also lags for me in Dice player.Its better to convert DTS audio only to ac3 format,doesnt take too much time either to convert.
techpal said:
Ya some 720p movies also lags for me in Dice player.Its better to convert DTS audio only to ac3 format,doesnt take too much time either to convert.
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Guess it's the best way to do.
Just watched a 1080p movie, and the phone was only a bit warm (with samsung stock player), was AC3. Does anyone know a "good" converter from DTS to AC3?
i had to split the movie into 3 files, to be able to play the movie (4GB limitation).
Maybe Samsung will fix these two issues: DTS capability and EXT4....
Diceplayer prior to 1.2.0 have some video lag issue.
did you test the movie using diceplayer 1.3.0 ?
I was using the 1.3.0 version.
Watched 1080p without any lags, yesterday. Was using stock Player
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I used the Dice Player, because it's supporting DTS, also i'm using a 5m HDMI cable.
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As far as I know hardware-acceleration an Android will only be used when using the integrated media-framework.
While Samsung extended the stock media-framework to support more container and codecs (like AC3 for example) it doesn´t support DTS.
This means, anything you can not play with the Samsung mediaplayer will use pure software-decoding, which is slow and burns a lot of energy.
Maybe the Player causes the problem, because another 720p movie was played well (Samsung stock player). btw: the phone was very hot after watching the above mentioned (DTS) movie.
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This is no surprise. With software-decoding, which obviously isn´t fast enough, at least one, but probably both of the Cortex-A9-cores will run at full speed the whole time.
The reason for dedicated decoding-hardware in the SoCs instead just using more powerful general purpose CPUs is the much better energy-efficiency.
LightspeedGalaxy said:
As far as I know hardware-acceleration an Android will only be used when using the integrated media-framework.
While Samsung extended the stock media-framework to support more container and codecs (like AC3 for example) it doesn´t support DTS.
This means, anything you can not play with the Samsung mediaplayer will use pure software-decoding, which is slow and burns a lot of energy.
This is no surprise. With software-decoding, which obviously isn´t fast enough, at least one, but probably both of the Cortex-A9-cores will run at full speed the whole time.
The reason for dedicated decoding-hardware in the SoCs instead just using more powerful general purpose CPUs is the much better energy-efficiency.
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Yes, i thought the same, because it was so warm.
I used the Rockplayer, with it you can activate Hardware acceleration, but i don't know if it works.
Thought other players could use the hardware acceleration.
From now on, i will convert the DTS to AC3, but first of, i will look for stock AC3
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I used the Rockplayer, with it you can activate Hardware acceleration, but i don't know if it works.
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Rockplayer can use hardware-acceleration, but only using the Android-Framework, which means hardware-acceleration will only work for the same containers/codecs as with the stock mediaplayer.
Thought other players could use the hardware acceleration.
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As I said Players can use hardware-acceleration, but they have to do it using the media-framefork, which means no hardware-acceleration for containers/codecs which aren´t supported in the media-framework.
In theory you could develop a mediaplayer with your own media-framework, directly programming the SoC.
But the question is how much of use it would anyway, could the hardware assist decoding for codecs which aren´t already present in the media-framework? It certainly could be useful for unsupported containers, that contain codecs which are already supported.
But the biggest problem would be that your new media-framework will only work with the phone you developed it, nobody will make android-software for just one phone out there.
That´s somewhat of the curse of the Android-plattform. It has been developed for maximum compatibility between the different devices out there. This means lots of choices in devices to buy for us, and for software-developers many devices that can run their software. But it also means we are not getting device-specific-software from 3rd-party developers.
Hopefully the Android-Framework at some time will split up the media-framework into "modules" similar to a DirectShow Filtergraph, so mediaplayers could exchange this individual modules and still use hardware-acceleration in others (which come from the device-manufacturer)
This would allow for example the support of different containers without losing hardware-acceleration in the decoding-part (if the codec is already supported), as well as doing audio-decoding in software (which could be quite reasonably done with 2 Cortex-A9-CPUs) and still using the hardware for the video-part.
I never hadany lag on the stock. Even the 1080 ones
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As I said Players can use hardware-acceleration, but they have to do it using the media-framefork, which means no hardware-acceleration for containers/codecs which aren´t supported in the media-framework.
In theory you could develop a mediaplayer with your own media-framework, directly programming the SoC.
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Diceplayer use SoC's HW Decoder. + SW decoder for Audio.
check this video
After Diceplayer came out, all of android device that supported by diceplayer
can play MKV(H.264/MPEG-4+DTS/AC3).
Even Nexus-S can play MKV+DTS+H.264 High profile with Diceplayer.
jojo2peter said:
Hey guys,
I'm using the MHL Adapter from BizLink and tried viewing a 720p movie with DTS Sound.
The playback lagged . I don't know why..
I used the Dice Player, because it's supporting DTS, also i'm using a 5m HDMI cable.
But why is the movie lagging? There are kinda microlags..
Resolution: 720p
Video Bitrate: 5586 kbps
Audio Stream: DTS 5.1
x264
Maybe the Player causes the problem, because another 720p movie was played well (Samsung stock player). btw: the phone was very hot after watching the above mentioned (DTS) movie.
Does anyone has some ideas?
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Send your file to me.
I'll check it.
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Guess it's the best way to do.
Just watched a 1080p movie, and the phone was only a bit warm (with samsung stock player), was AC3. Does anyone know a "good" converter from DTS to AC3?
i had to split the movie into 3 files, to be able to play the movie (4GB limitation).
Maybe Samsung will fix these two issues: DTS capability and EXT4....
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Hey guy, take a look here to make your NTFS Sd card work http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120407&page=3
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jojo2peter said:
But why is the movie lagging? There are kinda microlags..
Resolution: 720p
Video Bitrate: 5586 kbps
Audio Stream: DTS 5.1
x264
Does anyone has some ideas?
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I bet it lags because of the High Video Bitrate! get some 720p movie with Bitrate between 2K - 3.5 K and try
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I bet it lags because of the High Video Bitrate! get some 720p movie with Bitrate between 2K - 3.5 K and try
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And why did the 1080p movie work well?
It has a Video Bitrate @10250 kbps and [email protected]
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Hey guy, take a look here to make your NTFS Sd card work http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120407&page=3
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will do that, if the next firmware won't fix that
jojo2peter said:
And why did the 1080p movie work well?
It has a Video Bitrate @10250 kbps and [email protected]
will do that, if the next firmware won't fix that
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mal-formatted mkv file can cause some lag.
H.264 need 2-type of frame time - PTS/DTS.
but some of MKVs have wrong time stamp.
SGS2's HW Video decoder can not handle these files.
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mal-formatted mkv file can cause some lag.
H.264 need 2-type of frame time - PTS/DTS.
but some of MKVs have wrong time stamp.
SGS2's HW Video decoder can not handle these files.
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so is my sample still lagging on your phone too?
did you modifie the SD cache ?
> 512 kb create some lag on my sg2 with the video player.
All the reviews I have seen so far completely ignore media playback on the GN, or give it only a passing mention.
I'm really interested to know how well it handles media playback - AVI, MKV etc both on it's own screen, and over MHL to an HDMI connected screen - along with which specific MHL adaptor was used.
The SGS2 and HTC Sensation for example seem similar in spec, but when detailed reviews started coming in, it was clear the SGS2 was far superior in terms of media playback - both formats supported and fluidity of playback.
I'd love to get a GN, but I really need to know if the media playback is 'great' - and by great I mean 100% fluid on any reasonable file (up to 720p movies for example) - no skips, no out of sync etc... I'd also really like to know how well the MHL works in playing movies back on an HDMI connected screen - is it the same in terms of fluidity? What audio is sent over the cable?
Unfortunately here in New Zealand the device isn't released so I can't go try one myself, or else I would have already!
I'm not afraid of buying a good app if that's what it takes to have perfectly fluid playback - love to hear experiences with both the native and 3rd party payers on the GN.
Cheers - Neil G
I would also like to know about this.
Thanks
Theres a Diceplayer thread that says MKV work well, ive tried the trial version of it with 1 720p tv episode and it looked great.
not got any hdmi cables so cant test that but looked great on the phone.
AVI wasnt as good tho with what looked like a low fps problem.
do a forum search for Diceplayer for a bit more info.
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Theres a Diceplayer thread that says MKV work well, ive tried the trial version of it with 1 720p tv episode and it looked great.
not got any hdmi cables so cant test that but looked great on the phone.
AVI wasnt as good tho with what looked like a low fps problem.
do a forum search for Diceplayer for a bit more info.
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Yea and the developer posted something about fixes for AVI, so that bug should be gone soon. Diceplayer might be the best choice for GN as of now.
EDIT: Actually MX Player seems to be updated and people are reporting better playback than Diceplayer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362375
It works fine over MHL and on Diceplayer, i've recorded a video of it.
Uploading atm, I have poor upload speed so it'll be a while till I can link you.
Help please
I really want to buy this phone but i'm waiting to see how the volume issue resolves. But one of my major considerations is video playback. I have a huge collection of blu ray rips(1080p and 720p) and most of them are .mkv; does the galaxy nexus natively support .mkv files? Is there any file size limit on videos i put in the device?(the rips range from 3gb to 10gb). I know that the galaxy nexus doesn't support USB mass storage... does that stop me from transferring natively unsupported file types to the phone? Any help would be greatly appreciated
I believe Nexus does have USB storage.
For the MKV, it does play them natively, can you post a short sample? We could then give it a try. Two players are supposed to be able to play with hardware acceleration: Diceplayer and MX Player.
From what I know, 720p is not a problem at all. 1080p, might depend on bitrate and other things.
Finally got the video uploaded.
Includes play of 720p + 1080p files.
Good value imo, works well and doesn't look or feel too cheap.
Thanks for the video samples!
Thankyou sir, that's _exactly_ what I was looking for. I think I see some jumpiness in the playback, but I suspect that's actually youtube's fault. Certainly seems to handle 720 and 1080 fine.
Could you link to the exact MHL adaptor your purchased please?
Cheers - Neil G
talkiet said:
Thankyou sir, that's _exactly_ what I was looking for. I think I see some jumpiness in the playback, but I suspect that's actually youtube's fault. Certainly seems to handle 720 and 1080 fine.
Could you link to the exact MHL adaptor your purchased please?
Cheers - Neil G
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It was checking out my friend's Galaxy Nexus and we noticed he had to install the codec pack on Android Market for MX Player before it allowed HW-accelerated playback of the specific clip he used, even though it played back fine in the stock player (though no sound). With the codec pack he could set it to HW for the video and SW for the sound. In the end it worked out great and I was surprised, considering the table of supported formats on developer.android.com didn't list MKV + h.264 as a supported format.
I've been using Dice Player and MX Video Player for 720P .mkv files on both my Thunderbolt and Rezound. The Thunderbolt had sync issues(even overclocked). With the Rezound, most of the time playback is fine, but occasionally will have a slight sync issue here & there.
Considering the specs of both the Nexus and the Rezound though, even with a possible 'stock' issue, it'd just be a matter of eventually loading a custom ROM & some minor modifications/tweaks here & there.
Another video demo (though not specifically of the Nexus). MHL is just mirroring so there's no difference in playback. If it works on the phone, it's exactly the same mirrored.
I can also confirm that it natively plays back AVIs (Xvid), sample: http://www.multiupload.com/GML7HC3HHM
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I believe Nexus does have USB storage.
For the MKV, it does play them natively, can you post a short sample? We could then give it a try. Two players are supposed to be able to play with hardware acceleration: Diceplayer and MX Player.
From what I know, 720p is not a problem at all. 1080p, might depend on bitrate and other things.
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Sure i'll upload a sample or two in a bit. I know for sure it supports googles own mkv container(vp8 or something) but does it support mkv + h.264?
talkiet said:
Thankyou sir, that's _exactly_ what I was looking for. I think I see some jumpiness in the playback, but I suspect that's actually youtube's fault. Certainly seems to handle 720 and 1080 fine.
Could you link to the exact MHL adaptor your purchased please?
Cheers - Neil G
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It's off ebay, item no 220897013161.
Can get the same thing a bit cheaper from HK if you're prepared to wait a few weeks.
The jumpiness might have been because I had a lot of apps open at the same time, I just tried playing back the same files and they were perfectly smooth with only the browser open.
Again, thanks OP - really great info and I've just ordered and paid for a Galaxy Nexus from Clove
Cheers - Neil G
Just an update to the 'clipping' on the home screen, you need to switch OFF 'overscan' in the TV menu settings, it should look like this:
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5277/img0427wt.jpg
whyamihere said:
Finally got the video uploaded.
Includes play of 720p + 1080p files.
Good value imo, works well and doesn't look or feel too cheap.
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nice video mate
blunden said:
It was checking out my friend's Galaxy Nexus and we noticed he had to install the codec pack on Android Market for MX Player before it allowed HW-accelerated playback of the specific clip he used, even though it played back fine in the stock player (though no sound). With the codec pack he could set it to HW for the video and SW for the sound. In the end it worked out great and I was surprised, considering the table of supported formats on developer.android.com didn't list MKV + h.264 as a supported format.
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witch codec plz ?
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witch codec plz ?
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The ARMv7 ones. It never complained about needing them but it worked after installing them.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mxtech.ffmpeg.v7_vfpv3d16
A.Ik said:
Sure i'll upload a sample or two in a bit. I know for sure it supports googles own mkv container(vp8 or something) but does it support mkv + h.264?
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Most of my files are MKV x264. 720p plays in hardware perfectly. I don't have many 1080p to try. also, 1080 move plays almost perfectly.
The only 1080p mkv x264 I have doesn't play in hardware for some reason.
Edit: MX Player seems best for me.
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my .mkv videos dont play sound . unless i use softwere decoding on mobo but the the video is a lag fest. anyone know of a good way to convert them for one x friendly viewing
DicePlayer is working flawlessly for me with my 720p .mkv files. Buttery smooth video and audio is perfectly in sync.
Try Avidemux its free.
Just copy the video and re-encode the audio.
Works spot on for me.
mishmac said:
Try Avidemux its free.
Just copy the video and re-encode the audio.
Works spot on for me.
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thanks works great changing it to aac
and its fast
Theres also bs player lite if you don't like the menu bar in diceplayer.
On MX Player you can set it to use the hardware decoder to decode video (H.264), software decoder to decode audio (Dolby 5.1/DTS) and enable fast mode.
720p and 1080p .mkv's tested here working perfectly.
Yeah currently using MX Player. But you gotta set the decoders away from HW every time you start playing an .mkv file.
What does Avidemux do exactly? Is mkv not really supported by ICS?
Thanks
Your audio is probably DTS or AC3 encoded, Dice Player can handle those and use hardware decoding. Best video player for any Android it supports IMO. No dirty transcoding or anything, just drag n drop and everything works.
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Your audio is probably DTS or AC3 encoded, Dice Player can handle those and use hardware decoding. Best video player for any Android it supports IMO. No dirty transcoding or anything, just drag n drop and everything works.
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Ah, gonna try Dice and do some experiments, like, see if it can play my mkv files with hardware acceleration instead of software.
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Ah, gonna try Dice and do some experiments, like, see if it can play my mkv files with hardware acceleration instead of software.
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Try MX Player. You can try HW video and SW audio and see how that goes. Decoding isn't locked to the same type between video and audio on MX
I just tried Dice Player and it can play the mkv's audio with HW.
I don't think my ears are sensitive enough to hear the difference, but I read that HW acceleration uses lesser battery juice than SW?
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I just tried Dice Player and it can play the mkv's audio with HW.
I don't think my ears are sensitive enough to hear the difference, but I read that HW acceleration uses lesser battery juice than SW?
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Yes it does cos most SoC's come with a built in decoder. SW decode would mean you're using your CPU power to convert audio/video on the fly as you watch/listen, causing more battery drain.
Here is a comparison on what I have tried so far, for playing .mkv files:
Default HTC player: No audio at all and you cannot setup decoding to play audio whatsoever.
Mobo player: The same as HTC player.
Dice player: Audio works and videos play using hardware acceleration, but if you have stock rom, you cannot watch videos in full screen because of the menu bar, which is a huge deal breaker for me.
BS player: ICS friendly (menu button and all), plays videos with audio fine on software decoding mode or hardware decoding mode (BSPlayer engine). But on hardware decoding mode (system), the video is really bad, it has some corrupted squares all over it. I reckon that "HW decoding mode (system)" should be utilizing Tegra 3, right?
MX player: Also ICS friendly. Plays videos with audio fine on software decoding mode, but on hardware decoding mode, there is no sound. There is, however, an option to software decode audio when playing hardware decoded video, but, when I select that, the video completely stops and it's unplayable.
So, the final conclusion is this:
In MX player, currently the only way to watch videos is by software decoding. BS player can use hardware decoding using its own engine, but actually I don't know what "BSPlayer engine" utilizes for hw decoding. So the winner should be BS player, but the problem is that I really much more prefer MX over BS, due to other functions that it has and the overall appearance and experience.
My question to you guys is this: are there any negative effects if I use MX player with software decoding? Will my battery last shorter if CPU does all the decoding instead of the Tegra 3? I guess it will in theory, but has anyone tried and actually seen the difference with HW over SW decoding?
I sure hope that all of these app devs will soon follow ICS standards and new phones with graphics accelerations.
Also, if anyone can suggest a video player that hasn't been mentioned here, please do so!
xaeder said:
Here is a comparison on what I have tried so far, for playing .mkv files:
So, the final conclusion is this:
In MX player, currently the only way to watch videos is by software decoding. BS player can use hardware decoding using its own engine, but actually I don't know what "BSPlayer engine" utilizes for hw decoding. So the winner should be BS player, but the problem is that I really much more prefer MX over BS, due to other functions that it has and the overall appearance and experience.
My question to you guys is this: are there any negative effects if I use MX player with software decoding? Will my battery last shorter if CPU does all the decoding instead of the Tegra 3? I guess it will in theory, but has anyone tried and actually seen the difference with HW over SW decoding?
I sure hope that all of these app devs will soon follow ICS standards and new phones with graphics accelerations.
Also, if anyone can suggest a video player that hasn't been mentioned here, please do so!
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Software decoding will always consume more power. How much more I do not know. Also, Tegra 3 IS the CPU. Hardware decode means that there is a specific chip in the SoC that is there specifically to encode/decode video/audio and hence CPU resources are minimal. When that chip does not support a certain format, it's forced to render it in software.
Also, .mkv is just a container, there are many audio and video formats that can be encoded into .mkv
Thank you for your answer! I understand now what Tegra 3 actually is.
Oh, and for the format, sorry I forgot to mention. You are right, .mkv is just a container
The format of my files tested is:
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x720 23.98fps [Video]
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz stereo [Audio]
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As mentioned in other posts... If you have to use S/W in MX, it's because you have a 5.1 audio track.
Use something like mkv2mp4, and that will convert the audio stream to 2ch
Then MX will play the video & audio with H/W
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As mentioned in other posts... If you have to use S/W in MX, it's because you have a 5.1 audio track.
Use something like mkv2mp4, and that will convert the audio stream to 2ch
Then MX will play the video & audio with H/W
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This is helpful. Thanks
I think BSplayer is best. Sure, it uses it's own HW engine(if you want), but it shouldn't be any big differences I hope. It sure as hell uses alot less battery then SW anyway. And also, BSplayer can play straight from .rar's and stream from a windows share in HW-mode (with it's own engine ofc)! Most players switch back to SW when you play through network but not bsplayer. And BSplayer also downloads subs automatically. The only downside is that it's kind of ugly. Haha
Now, it they only would port XBMC to android..
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As mentioned in other posts... If you have to use S/W in MX, it's because you have a 5.1 audio track.
Use something like mkv2mp4, and that will convert the audio stream to 2ch
Then MX will play the video & audio with H/W
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The whole idea with these media players is to not have to convert every video you've want to see. BSPlayer is the best player, period. It can play everything I've tried as of yet anyhow.
There it however one thing I hate, but thats probably the phone (or drivers) and not bsplayer. If you play say 720p over network with a bluetooth headset, it will lag. It's if they haven't given enough bandwidth to the wifi/bluetooth chip. Don't think I had this problem on my old phone.
just tried Dice player there, i must say it is really good. no lag what so ever, and the sound was perfect, and the menu bar didn't bother me at all.
some of them might work in whatever app you want to use, but i can tell you that some of them will never work right. i bought a Cowon D2 (what a mistake!) and ended up selling it. some mkvs didn't show video and a lot of them didn't have audio. it depends on the codecs that were used. it's the same on PS3. there are certain videos and audios that you need better hardware to play. i've seen people say that the audio has to be "AC3" for it to work on PS3. i wouldn't waste too much time with it and you should just convert it lower or use a computer with mid to high level AMD/Nvidia and some $100+ sound card. if you're trying to watch bluray disc rips that keep some of the quality, then it most likely won't work.
What are the best settings in Handbrake to encode video for the Nexus 7 2013? I'd like to take advantage of the increased resolution and stereo speakers on the newer model. Thanks!
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What are the best settings in Handbrake to encode video for the Nexus 7 2013? I'd like to take advantage of the increased resolution and stereo speakers on the newer model. Thanks!
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Excellent question. I am experimenting with various settings right now. So, maybe someone else will chime in with some results.
I'd be very interested in this as well..
maxdraki said:
I'd be very interested in this as well..
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Me too, anyone made any progress in their tries?
I used the handbrake part of the lifehacker guide on ripping blu-rays. http://lifehacker.com/5559007/the-hassle+free-guide-to-ripping-your-blu+ray-collection. Streamed and transcoded over Plex, it works nicely.
I just use the android tablet (on the latest version) and that generates mp4 files that play without issues on my Nexus. Dunno if there are other adjustments for even better quality video.
I may be the oddball here, but I have been finding that the N7 (with MXPlayer or VLC) will play 99% of HD files directly without conversion. There IS the issue of file space, but if your goal is the best video quality and aren't concerned about storage, then playing the original file and not transcoding it seems to be the way to go.
That said, I really can't see the difference between a 1080p and 720p encode, so I DO transcode to save space on the device. I have been using Handbrake with a 720p preset (can't remember what it is at the moment...) and they look great!
The hardware decoder works well up to H.264 high profile level 4.1. From my own tests it will start dropping frames at level 5.0.
PJ Clifford said:
I may be the oddball here, but I have been finding that the N7 (with MXPlayer or VLC) will play 99% of HD files directly without conversion. There IS the issue of file space, but if your goal is the best video quality and aren't concerned about storage, then playing the original file and not transcoding it seems to be the way to go.
That said, I really can't see the difference between a 1080p and 720p encode, so I DO transcode to save space on the device. I have been using Handbrake with a 720p preset (can't remember what it is at the moment...) and they look great!
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Absolutely! MX Player with ffmpeg for decoding multi channel audio works perfect, even when streaming from OTG! :good:
I usually try to convert so that movie playback does not consume crap loads of battery.
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I have been using Handbrake with a 720p preset...
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Did you use these settings?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184002
I have always used MX Player on all of my Samsung phones and tablets for at leas the last 3 years.
I've never used the stock Samsung video player to play anything until today. I noticed the stock video player
produced a MUCH sharper picture than MX Player. I tried this comparison on my phones as well and got
the same results.... the Samsung stock video player always had the sharper pictures. (Note 3, Note 2 and
S4)
I tried to adjust everything setting in MX Player that I can think of, including codec, and changing from HW to
HW+ to SW decoding.... made no difference. The picture was always softer than the stock video players.
All of the videos were either 720p or 1080p MKV/MP4s.(recorded from 1080i output from my HD DVR
or converted from Blu-ray discs)
Is there something else that I can do to make pictures sharper? (or at least as sharp as stock video player?)
Thanks!
stock video player is optimized for the display. may be thats y
Yeah stock is optimized for your device which is why while MX player is compatible for most versions of android of devices which is a lot to optimize for each device.
Codec for thr stock vider player
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Yeah stock is optimized for your device which is why while MX player is compatible for most versions of android of devices which is a lot to optimize for each device.
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When I use the stock video player I get the message that audio is not possible as I do not have the right audio codec for this film.
Can someone please let me know where I can get the right audio codec for the stock video player.
Thank you.
bridion said:
When I use the stock video player I get the message that audio is not possible as I do not have the right audio codec for this film.
Can someone please let me know where I can get the right audio codec for the stock video player.
Thank you.
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I guess it's the AC3 codec you have problem with, it's been mentioned before if you take a look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/codecs-samsung-video-player-t2812549
but it's a easy fix, if you read the post I made in the thread it will let you play AC3 audio too, so now I'm using the stock video player instead of MX Player.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56023857&postcount=15
you must be rooted though
[email protected] said:
I guess it's the AC3 codec you have problem with, it's been mentioned before if you take a look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/codecs-samsung-video-player-t2812549
but it's a easy fix, if you read the post I made in the thread it will let you play AC3 audio too, so now I'm using the stock video player instead of MX Player.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56023857&postcount=15
you must be rooted though
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My tab S is not rooted, as I am a new comer to Android ( this is my first tablet ).
Is there no other way of using the stock Video player with AC3 sound without rooting my Tab S?
thank you.
bridion said:
My tab S is not rooted, as I am a new comer to Android ( this is my first tablet ).
Is there no other way of using the stock Video player with AC3 sound without rooting my Tab S?
thank you.
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no, not what I heard of as they removed support for AC3, you can use MX Player if you don't want to root it, but it's really simple to root. what version of Tab S do you have?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/cf-auto-root-chainfire-t2881826
Is it psychological or is it possible there is no difference playing a 2560x1600 video between MX player and stock player? I mean, I don't see this difference you speak of, but I want to make sure.
Any way to stream to the samsung video app from my pc via smb. Right now I'm going through es explorer and it's ok on 720p but on 1080p m2ts or mkv I get loading circle every few seconds.
I get the same from mx player too. Bsplayer can stream from smb directly but I think picture quality isn't as good or may be just my imagination.
toufiq47 said:
stock video player is optimized for the display. may be thats y
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DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Yeah stock is optimized for your device which is why while MX player is compatible for most versions of android of devices which is a lot to optimize for each device.
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You can guys articulate what exactly "optimized" means with regards to that?
Also wanted to point out about the audio with the stock player Is that it has 7.1 surround sound which makes it incredibly better than the MX Player decoded with a double volume amp
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Can anyone else verify that the stock player looks better than mx or bsplayer. I tried playing the nature video that comes on the tab S and a few others and they look about the same to me. Hard to tell. Maybe it's a little better, but that could be placebo effect.
On the other hand, there are lots of video the stock player just can't play.
barth2 said:
Can anyone else verify that the stock player looks better than mx or bsplayer. I tried playing the nature video that comes on the tab S and a few others and they look about the same to me. Hard to tell. Maybe it's a little better, but that could be placebo effect.
On the other hand, there are lots of video the stock player just can't play.
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The crap about stock being "optimized" is pure bull****. The standard and decoding algorithms are well defined and the only possibility is if stock adds artificial sharpening which would actually reduce quality compared to the intended picture. This is pure placebo and a lively imagination talking. Just use mx and enjoy a much better codec support.
Zamboney said:
The crap about stock being "optimized" is pure bull****. The standard and decoding algorithms are well defined and the only possibility is if stock adds artificial sharpening which would actually reduce quality compared to the intended picture. This is pure placebo and a lively imagination talking. Just use mx and enjoy a much better codec support.
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Hey there!
My question is not exactly about the stock and mx player video player but about videos. The question is I know that the resolution of the tab's display is very very high and with this high resolution watching movies with their lower resolution the movies on this tablet won't be as sharp as the display itself, so the question is which resolution is ok for watching on this tablet? I mean if I download a 720p movie or series and try to watch it on the tab s 8.4 will it be sharp enough not to realize the pixels during the film or for example a DVD quality film is also ok with this tablet to watch on? Hope you could understand me, i'm hungarian and hard to describe my problem. )