[Q] Video playback fluidity / support on GN and over MHL? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

All the reviews I have seen so far completely ignore media playback on the GN, or give it only a passing mention.
I'm really interested to know how well it handles media playback - AVI, MKV etc both on it's own screen, and over MHL to an HDMI connected screen - along with which specific MHL adaptor was used.
The SGS2 and HTC Sensation for example seem similar in spec, but when detailed reviews started coming in, it was clear the SGS2 was far superior in terms of media playback - both formats supported and fluidity of playback.
I'd love to get a GN, but I really need to know if the media playback is 'great' - and by great I mean 100% fluid on any reasonable file (up to 720p movies for example) - no skips, no out of sync etc... I'd also really like to know how well the MHL works in playing movies back on an HDMI connected screen - is it the same in terms of fluidity? What audio is sent over the cable?
Unfortunately here in New Zealand the device isn't released so I can't go try one myself, or else I would have already!
I'm not afraid of buying a good app if that's what it takes to have perfectly fluid playback - love to hear experiences with both the native and 3rd party payers on the GN.
Cheers - Neil G

I would also like to know about this.
Thanks

Theres a Diceplayer thread that says MKV work well, ive tried the trial version of it with 1 720p tv episode and it looked great.
not got any hdmi cables so cant test that but looked great on the phone.
AVI wasnt as good tho with what looked like a low fps problem.
do a forum search for Diceplayer for a bit more info.

r3k0 said:
Theres a Diceplayer thread that says MKV work well, ive tried the trial version of it with 1 720p tv episode and it looked great.
not got any hdmi cables so cant test that but looked great on the phone.
AVI wasnt as good tho with what looked like a low fps problem.
do a forum search for Diceplayer for a bit more info.
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Yea and the developer posted something about fixes for AVI, so that bug should be gone soon. Diceplayer might be the best choice for GN as of now.
EDIT: Actually MX Player seems to be updated and people are reporting better playback than Diceplayer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362375

It works fine over MHL and on Diceplayer, i've recorded a video of it.
Uploading atm, I have poor upload speed so it'll be a while till I can link you.

Help please
I really want to buy this phone but i'm waiting to see how the volume issue resolves. But one of my major considerations is video playback. I have a huge collection of blu ray rips(1080p and 720p) and most of them are .mkv; does the galaxy nexus natively support .mkv files? Is there any file size limit on videos i put in the device?(the rips range from 3gb to 10gb). I know that the galaxy nexus doesn't support USB mass storage... does that stop me from transferring natively unsupported file types to the phone? Any help would be greatly appreciated

I believe Nexus does have USB storage.
For the MKV, it does play them natively, can you post a short sample? We could then give it a try. Two players are supposed to be able to play with hardware acceleration: Diceplayer and MX Player.
From what I know, 720p is not a problem at all. 1080p, might depend on bitrate and other things.

Finally got the video uploaded.
Includes play of 720p + 1080p files.
Good value imo, works well and doesn't look or feel too cheap.

Thanks for the video samples!
Thankyou sir, that's _exactly_ what I was looking for. I think I see some jumpiness in the playback, but I suspect that's actually youtube's fault. Certainly seems to handle 720 and 1080 fine.
Could you link to the exact MHL adaptor your purchased please?
Cheers - Neil G

talkiet said:
Thankyou sir, that's _exactly_ what I was looking for. I think I see some jumpiness in the playback, but I suspect that's actually youtube's fault. Certainly seems to handle 720 and 1080 fine.
Could you link to the exact MHL adaptor your purchased please?
Cheers - Neil G
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It was checking out my friend's Galaxy Nexus and we noticed he had to install the codec pack on Android Market for MX Player before it allowed HW-accelerated playback of the specific clip he used, even though it played back fine in the stock player (though no sound). With the codec pack he could set it to HW for the video and SW for the sound. In the end it worked out great and I was surprised, considering the table of supported formats on developer.android.com didn't list MKV + h.264 as a supported format.

I've been using Dice Player and MX Video Player for 720P .mkv files on both my Thunderbolt and Rezound. The Thunderbolt had sync issues(even overclocked). With the Rezound, most of the time playback is fine, but occasionally will have a slight sync issue here & there.
Considering the specs of both the Nexus and the Rezound though, even with a possible 'stock' issue, it'd just be a matter of eventually loading a custom ROM & some minor modifications/tweaks here & there.

Another video demo (though not specifically of the Nexus). MHL is just mirroring so there's no difference in playback. If it works on the phone, it's exactly the same mirrored.
I can also confirm that it natively plays back AVIs (Xvid), sample: http://www.multiupload.com/GML7HC3HHM

schriss said:
I believe Nexus does have USB storage.
For the MKV, it does play them natively, can you post a short sample? We could then give it a try. Two players are supposed to be able to play with hardware acceleration: Diceplayer and MX Player.
From what I know, 720p is not a problem at all. 1080p, might depend on bitrate and other things.
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Sure i'll upload a sample or two in a bit. I know for sure it supports googles own mkv container(vp8 or something) but does it support mkv + h.264?

talkiet said:
Thankyou sir, that's _exactly_ what I was looking for. I think I see some jumpiness in the playback, but I suspect that's actually youtube's fault. Certainly seems to handle 720 and 1080 fine.
Could you link to the exact MHL adaptor your purchased please?
Cheers - Neil G
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It's off ebay, item no 220897013161.
Can get the same thing a bit cheaper from HK if you're prepared to wait a few weeks.
The jumpiness might have been because I had a lot of apps open at the same time, I just tried playing back the same files and they were perfectly smooth with only the browser open.

Again, thanks OP - really great info and I've just ordered and paid for a Galaxy Nexus from Clove
Cheers - Neil G

Just an update to the 'clipping' on the home screen, you need to switch OFF 'overscan' in the TV menu settings, it should look like this:
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5277/img0427wt.jpg

whyamihere said:
Finally got the video uploaded.
Includes play of 720p + 1080p files.
Good value imo, works well and doesn't look or feel too cheap.
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nice video mate

blunden said:
It was checking out my friend's Galaxy Nexus and we noticed he had to install the codec pack on Android Market for MX Player before it allowed HW-accelerated playback of the specific clip he used, even though it played back fine in the stock player (though no sound). With the codec pack he could set it to HW for the video and SW for the sound. In the end it worked out great and I was surprised, considering the table of supported formats on developer.android.com didn't list MKV + h.264 as a supported format.
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witch codec plz ?

le_pere_noel said:
witch codec plz ?
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The ARMv7 ones. It never complained about needing them but it worked after installing them.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mxtech.ffmpeg.v7_vfpv3d16

A.Ik said:
Sure i'll upload a sample or two in a bit. I know for sure it supports googles own mkv container(vp8 or something) but does it support mkv + h.264?
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Most of my files are MKV x264. 720p plays in hardware perfectly. I don't have many 1080p to try. also, 1080 move plays almost perfectly.
The only 1080p mkv x264 I have doesn't play in hardware for some reason.
Edit: MX Player seems best for me.
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720p Playback lagged

Hey guys,
I'm using the MHL Adapter from BizLink and tried viewing a 720p movie with DTS Sound.
The playback lagged . I don't know why..
I used the Dice Player, because it's supporting DTS, also i'm using a 5m HDMI cable.
But why is the movie lagging? There are kinda microlags..
Resolution: 720p
Video Bitrate: 5586 kbps
Audio Stream: DTS 5.1
x264
Maybe the Player causes the problem, because another 720p movie was played well (Samsung stock player). btw: the phone was very hot after watching the above mentioned (DTS) movie.
Does anyone has some ideas?
Ya some 720p movies also lags for me in Dice player.Its better to convert DTS audio only to ac3 format,doesnt take too much time either to convert.
techpal said:
Ya some 720p movies also lags for me in Dice player.Its better to convert DTS audio only to ac3 format,doesnt take too much time either to convert.
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Guess it's the best way to do.
Just watched a 1080p movie, and the phone was only a bit warm (with samsung stock player), was AC3. Does anyone know a "good" converter from DTS to AC3?
i had to split the movie into 3 files, to be able to play the movie (4GB limitation).
Maybe Samsung will fix these two issues: DTS capability and EXT4....
Diceplayer prior to 1.2.0 have some video lag issue.
did you test the movie using diceplayer 1.3.0 ?
I was using the 1.3.0 version.
Watched 1080p without any lags, yesterday. Was using stock Player
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jojo2peter said:
I used the Dice Player, because it's supporting DTS, also i'm using a 5m HDMI cable.
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As far as I know hardware-acceleration an Android will only be used when using the integrated media-framework.
While Samsung extended the stock media-framework to support more container and codecs (like AC3 for example) it doesn´t support DTS.
This means, anything you can not play with the Samsung mediaplayer will use pure software-decoding, which is slow and burns a lot of energy.
Maybe the Player causes the problem, because another 720p movie was played well (Samsung stock player). btw: the phone was very hot after watching the above mentioned (DTS) movie.
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This is no surprise. With software-decoding, which obviously isn´t fast enough, at least one, but probably both of the Cortex-A9-cores will run at full speed the whole time.
The reason for dedicated decoding-hardware in the SoCs instead just using more powerful general purpose CPUs is the much better energy-efficiency.
LightspeedGalaxy said:
As far as I know hardware-acceleration an Android will only be used when using the integrated media-framework.
While Samsung extended the stock media-framework to support more container and codecs (like AC3 for example) it doesn´t support DTS.
This means, anything you can not play with the Samsung mediaplayer will use pure software-decoding, which is slow and burns a lot of energy.
This is no surprise. With software-decoding, which obviously isn´t fast enough, at least one, but probably both of the Cortex-A9-cores will run at full speed the whole time.
The reason for dedicated decoding-hardware in the SoCs instead just using more powerful general purpose CPUs is the much better energy-efficiency.
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Yes, i thought the same, because it was so warm.
I used the Rockplayer, with it you can activate Hardware acceleration, but i don't know if it works.
Thought other players could use the hardware acceleration.
From now on, i will convert the DTS to AC3, but first of, i will look for stock AC3
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I used the Rockplayer, with it you can activate Hardware acceleration, but i don't know if it works.
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Rockplayer can use hardware-acceleration, but only using the Android-Framework, which means hardware-acceleration will only work for the same containers/codecs as with the stock mediaplayer.
Thought other players could use the hardware acceleration.
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As I said Players can use hardware-acceleration, but they have to do it using the media-framefork, which means no hardware-acceleration for containers/codecs which aren´t supported in the media-framework.
In theory you could develop a mediaplayer with your own media-framework, directly programming the SoC.
But the question is how much of use it would anyway, could the hardware assist decoding for codecs which aren´t already present in the media-framework? It certainly could be useful for unsupported containers, that contain codecs which are already supported.
But the biggest problem would be that your new media-framework will only work with the phone you developed it, nobody will make android-software for just one phone out there.
That´s somewhat of the curse of the Android-plattform. It has been developed for maximum compatibility between the different devices out there. This means lots of choices in devices to buy for us, and for software-developers many devices that can run their software. But it also means we are not getting device-specific-software from 3rd-party developers.
Hopefully the Android-Framework at some time will split up the media-framework into "modules" similar to a DirectShow Filtergraph, so mediaplayers could exchange this individual modules and still use hardware-acceleration in others (which come from the device-manufacturer)
This would allow for example the support of different containers without losing hardware-acceleration in the decoding-part (if the codec is already supported), as well as doing audio-decoding in software (which could be quite reasonably done with 2 Cortex-A9-CPUs) and still using the hardware for the video-part.
I never hadany lag on the stock. Even the 1080 ones
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As I said Players can use hardware-acceleration, but they have to do it using the media-framefork, which means no hardware-acceleration for containers/codecs which aren´t supported in the media-framework.
In theory you could develop a mediaplayer with your own media-framework, directly programming the SoC.
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Diceplayer use SoC's HW Decoder. + SW decoder for Audio.
check this video
After Diceplayer came out, all of android device that supported by diceplayer
can play MKV(H.264/MPEG-4+DTS/AC3).
Even Nexus-S can play MKV+DTS+H.264 High profile with Diceplayer.
jojo2peter said:
Hey guys,
I'm using the MHL Adapter from BizLink and tried viewing a 720p movie with DTS Sound.
The playback lagged . I don't know why..
I used the Dice Player, because it's supporting DTS, also i'm using a 5m HDMI cable.
But why is the movie lagging? There are kinda microlags..
Resolution: 720p
Video Bitrate: 5586 kbps
Audio Stream: DTS 5.1
x264
Maybe the Player causes the problem, because another 720p movie was played well (Samsung stock player). btw: the phone was very hot after watching the above mentioned (DTS) movie.
Does anyone has some ideas?
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Send your file to me.
I'll check it.
jojo2peter said:
Guess it's the best way to do.
Just watched a 1080p movie, and the phone was only a bit warm (with samsung stock player), was AC3. Does anyone know a "good" converter from DTS to AC3?
i had to split the movie into 3 files, to be able to play the movie (4GB limitation).
Maybe Samsung will fix these two issues: DTS capability and EXT4....
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Hey guy, take a look here to make your NTFS Sd card work http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120407&page=3
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jojo2peter said:
But why is the movie lagging? There are kinda microlags..
Resolution: 720p
Video Bitrate: 5586 kbps
Audio Stream: DTS 5.1
x264
Does anyone has some ideas?
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I bet it lags because of the High Video Bitrate! get some 720p movie with Bitrate between 2K - 3.5 K and try
NoOneCanHelpMe said:
I bet it lags because of the High Video Bitrate! get some 720p movie with Bitrate between 2K - 3.5 K and try
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And why did the 1080p movie work well?
It has a Video Bitrate @10250 kbps and [email protected]
hakkinenvthh said:
Hey guy, take a look here to make your NTFS Sd card work http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120407&page=3
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will do that, if the next firmware won't fix that
jojo2peter said:
And why did the 1080p movie work well?
It has a Video Bitrate @10250 kbps and [email protected]
will do that, if the next firmware won't fix that
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mal-formatted mkv file can cause some lag.
H.264 need 2-type of frame time - PTS/DTS.
but some of MKVs have wrong time stamp.
SGS2's HW Video decoder can not handle these files.
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mal-formatted mkv file can cause some lag.
H.264 need 2-type of frame time - PTS/DTS.
but some of MKVs have wrong time stamp.
SGS2's HW Video decoder can not handle these files.
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so is my sample still lagging on your phone too?
did you modifie the SD cache ?
> 512 kb create some lag on my sg2 with the video player.

Diceplayer supports Galaxy nexus - plays MKV/AVI with Full HW acceleration

Diceplayer v 1.7.4 supports Galaxy Nexus.
It take advantage of OMAP4's video decoder.
720p H.264 High profile + DTS/AC3/Flac audio MKV with embedded subtitles works perfectly.
I'll post some test video on next Monday.
YES. YES. YES. That is awesome. My only reservation about the phone was codec support. Thanks for sharing Juami!
Awesome try some 1080p stuff. Also try mxplayer if you have the time
veli69 said:
Awesome try some 1080p stuff. Also try mxplayer if you have the time
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mx : not supported version popup
bs and mobo : couldn't play at all
add:
I think devs could not get Galaxy Nexus yet.
I got unreleased Galaxy Nexus for testing. so I could release diceplayer update for Galaxy Nexus.
Thanks for the update, been using Diceplayer on my tab 10.1 for a while now and it's been awesome. On the nexus however it seems it's missing some frame rates. Will try it with a few more vids and see how it goes.
Edit: Tried a 720p mkv and it was flawless. Avi's of TV shows are playing back at a low frame rate, and are noticeably choppy.
I can play 10gb 1080p rips without problem, Can't try anything larger as Diceplayer crashes when I try to play over my network so have only been able to play local files.
Plays local files fine but doesn't go fullscreen - leaves the onscreen buttons.
VPlayer seems to work nicely
The UI for Vplayer is defo not perfect.. the folders glitch, and the soft buttons stay lit, however the playback is smooth and in sync, so very usable for now.
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VPlayer seems to work nicely
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vPlayer have a good sw video decoder(ffmpeg) but
vPlayer can't use HW video decoder except native supported format(mp4).
SW video decoder use higher CPU power than HW decoder and drains battery too fast. and loose a color detail.
Great news. Loved the Dice player on my Asus Transformer. Sold my tablet though so I'm looking forward to using it on the GN
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Plays local files fine but doesn't go fullscreen - leaves the onscreen buttons.
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we update diceplayer to support full screen on Galaxy Nexus.
changelog of diceplayer v.1.7.5
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What's in this version:
Support full screen for Galaxy Nexus
Fix bug that sometimes continuation does not work properly for Galaxy Nexus
Fix bug that some AVI files are not played properly
Fix bug that aspect ratio is abnormal when orientation is changed
Add option that shows audio only files (default off)
Add option that saves the subtitle (default on, can move by touching subtitle while playing)
Fix minor bugs
Has anyone tried playing MKV's on the native ICS media player? I can play aac-audio h.264-video MKVs without installing any additional player
SilentMobius said:
Has anyone tried playing MKV's on the native ICS media player? I can play aac-audio h.264-video MKVs without installing any additional player
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after Honeycomb, Android supports MKV format ( not perfectly) but audio codec limited to AAC/MP3.
if you want to play AC3/DTS/Flac audio and embedded subtitles, you should install 3rd party player.
Just though id add my findings.
Ive tried dice player but as with Vplayer i have had mixed results.
Some of my Mp4 files play just fine whilst others fail to open. The player just goes back to the andriod home screen. The ones that fail have ac3 audio.
Im guessing its down to the audio codecs required to play the files.
I do like the look and feel of the app though.
Its a shame im having these issues as the galaxy s2 played them all natively.
Haven't bought Dice Player but I can confirm the trial will playback high profile MKVs in 1080p:
I tried Diceplayer on few local 720p MKV and these play nice.
But two things:
1. My TXT subtitles did not load.
2. When I tried to play the same file from network share, Diceplayer crashes.
I was just able to mount my network share drive via CIFS, so that it appears under /mnt/cifs/share
Then I tried Diceplayer and it did play my 720p MKV in HW with no delay on start.
If it only supported TXT subtitles... (it would probably need to handle different formats, as I have noticed sometimes different formats used in TXT file)
Will run my usual batch of test video files through the Nexus and Dice Player in next couple of days as I just got my Nexus. Expect it won't measure up to the Note/SGSII that I'm accustomed to, but if it can handle 720p I'll be happy enough...
Not sure If I posted this already, but Dice player was able to play 1080p mov trailer in hardware other players either could not play at all or used software and were skipping.

[Q] Best video format?

i've never really watched videos on my phones (mostly due to screen size etc) but i figure now that I have the Galaxy Nexus i could watch a few things on it..
What would be the best video format to convert things to? I dropped an avi of a tv program onto it and it worked but it lagged a bit..
I just converted something to an HD mp4 using Permute for Mac, it bumped the filesize up about 100mb but tested it and it runs smooth in QuickPic or PlayerPro but when trying to use the built in video player (to get the true full screen) it plays for a second, stutters, then says it can't be played.. :S
has anyone managed to get moboplayer working ? says i need an arm7 neon codec - found that on their site ... followed instructions but it still wont work
Video playback may be a bit iffy until the apps are updated; one of the Diceplayer mob posted saying that it now supports HD playback for .mkv. They didn't mention .avi but that generally needs less resources than .avi so you could try your avi in Diceplayer.
The general trend in open source video development is towards .mkv, I'm trying that first.
I'd be surprised if much works well right out of the gate. The true beta is when the masses begin tinkering
vplayer seems to play avi nicely
Ill have to try it out.. downloading now
I've got the same question. And I don't mean what other player can I download to play movies. I mean what format can I encode videos in to get them to play in the native player. I did find the article below. I have tried each of these formats with no luck. Anyone know why Android can't play a movie out of the box?
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
And I also tired MoboPlayer with no luck.
pretty much if you use a baseline .mp4 format you will be fine
basically:
h.264 video
LC-AAC audio
no CABAC
and you should be fine up to 1080p these settings work on all my android devices
just set mpeg 4 level 4 and it should take care of it by itself
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pretty much if you use a baseline .mp4 format you will be fine
basically:
h.264 video
LC-AAC audio
no CABAC
and you should be fine up to 1080p these settings work on all my android devices
just set mpeg 4 level 4 and it should take care of it by itself
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Thanks noobdeagle,
I have tired those settings on several encoders (handbrake, Adobe Media Encoder, Magic DVD ripper) and still no success. What software are you using to encode? and have you tried the movies on the galaxy nexus? Because I have never had a problem on any other Android devices. Just this one.
cj
gave up re-encoding videos.
vplayer has played everything ive thrown at it so far. the built in movie player seems very limited.
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gave up re-encoding videos.
vplayer has played everything ive thrown at it so far. the built in movie player seems very limited.
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I appreciate the feedback but I have two problems with this particular advice.
1 - Have you seen the permissions for that player? Why would a video player need access to my "Phone calls - Read phone status and identity" and "Your personal information - Read sensitive log data"? Really?
2 - Why the hell can't this phone play videos out of the box. <rant>I have, as I suspect a lot of us here do, a fair few friends that I would call iPhone fanboys. One of the biggest gripes I always hear about android is that every time you run into a problem on Android is the best answer is to root your phone and install cyanogen, or go get xxxx app and that will take care of it, or you should have bought this phone instead. So I get this phone and think that finally Android is going to hit the main stream and I can't even play a movie. WTF!</rant>
Like I said, I appreciate the feedback but I am still looking for a way to play a video in the default video player.
cj
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Thanks noobdeagle,
I have tired those settings on several encoders (handbrake, Adobe Media Encoder, Magic DVD ripper) and still no success. What software are you using to encode? and have you tried the movies on the galaxy nexus? Because I have never had a problem on any other Android devices. Just this one.
cj
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no i have not tried on a galaxy nexus yet as that one week delay sim free means i wont be able to have mine in my hands untill at least next week :\,
i use mediacoder to encode videos, cant speak for the GN but ive used it for my xoom, nexus S, desire hd, htc legend and SGS 2 in the past (however SGS2 supported all codecs quite nicely anyway)
according to the android dev site the supported video list hasnt changed so this is quite strange.
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no i have not tried on a galaxy nexus yet as that one week delay sim free means i wont be able to have mine in my hands untill at least next week :\,
i use mediacoder to encode videos, cant speak for the GN but ive used it for my xoom, nexus S, desire hd, htc legend and SGS 2 in the past (however SGS2 supported all codecs quite nicely anyway)
according to the android dev site the supported video list hasnt changed so this is quite strange.
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Thanks for the info. I will seek out and try mediacoder.
FYI...I got my GN SIM free from Phones 4U. It was not easy though. I went in to a few stores before finding one that would sell it to me SIM free. And I think that I happened upon the manager at the store that did sell it to me. What makes it even better is that I am in the UK on business for a few months and so I can get the VAT back on my way out. Which makes it nearly 90 quid cheaper.
Thanks again,
cj
seems as if media coder works. Though that is one complicated program. You could get lost in those settings for days.
Thanks again.
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chrisjaffe said:
seems as if media coder works. Though that is one complicated program. You could get lost in those settings for days.
Thanks again.
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Format factory works and it's easy as to use.
Format factory does seem to work and is a little easier to use. Thanks. And just in time too because Mediacoder was having some trouble iwth a few of the vids I had.
cj

Do 720p mkv files work flawlessly without re-encoding?

Hi everyone,
I first got to say that I have not yet purchased GalaxyNexus. However I have a big concern in regards to 720p HD video files from the net. I realized this on my Galaxy Tab10.1 after I bought it that most HD files need to be re-encoded in order to run without lag or being choppy. I was very disappointed with that.
Would someone tell me how is the performance of mkv files on GalaxyNexus.
Thanks.
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Yes, use MX Player from the market, it can run just about anything smoothly
Or try dice player, only problem is its not allowing me to buy full version after 3 days trial has ran out, anyone know a way around that?
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heck it plays 1080p mkvs flawlessly. I have a 11gb mkv of Drive that sits on my phone just to show off. Now to get that MHL adapter.
biggiestuff said:
heck it plays 1080p mkvs flawlessly. I have a 11gb mkv of Drive that sits on my phone just to show off. Now to get that MHL adapter.
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I tried a sample of 1080p mkv on mxplayer and it was choking on SW only (no HW available). What player did you use?
CrazyDelta said:
Hi everyone,
I first got to say that I have not yet purchased GalaxyNexus. However I have a big concern in regards to 720p HD video files from the net. I realized this on my Galaxy Tab10.1 after I bought it that most HD files need to be re-encoded in order to run without lag or being choppy. I was very disappointed with that.
Would someone tell me how is the performance of mkv files on GalaxyNexus.
Thanks.
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Whether it plays depends on a lot of things. The video format, (MKV is just a container), the audio format and most importantly the bitrate. A lot of desktop PCs will chunder along if the bitrate is too high for it's hardware to handle, so a phone will struggle even more.
The bottleneck seems to be the speed of the internal storage, for me. It plays stuff flawlessly, but if I play a 1080p file with a super high bitrate, it's all choppy.
cvbcbcmv said:
You a usenet user? Mkv files are all over that. (I hope you are, I wanna talk to somebody about how amazing it is!!!)
I watched a 3 gig mkv file of a 1 hour season finale of flashpoint (anybody watch it BTW?) and it was flawless. Jules was as amazing as ever, and Ed was as bald as ever.
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what do you mean usernet user? whats that? and my mkv files play fine 720p and 1080p
Thanks for the reply guys. Appreciate it.
However, I found this video review on YouTube and it kinda made me pessimistic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eDnY_nZ2SiE
*I hope it is ok posting a link to a video here.
CrazyDelta said:
Thanks for the reply guys. Appreciate it.
However, I found this video review on YouTube and it kinda made me pessimistic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eDnY_nZ2SiE
*I hope it is ok posting a link to a video here.
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Not sure what player or videos are being used in this video but my 720 en 1080p MKV's are all working smooth on dice player.
cvbcbcmv said:
You a usenet user? Mkv files are all over that. (I hope you are, I wanna talk to somebody about how amazing it is!!!)
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The first rule of Usenet is, you don't talk about Usenet.
Is there a trick to getting these super large files on your phone? Everytime I've tried to drag an 8GB file over it complains it only takes files under 4GB. Are you splitting them?
lettcco said:
I tried a sample of 1080p mkv on mxplayer and it was choking on SW only (no HW available). What player did you use?
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I used diceplayer trial. That app is great. hopefully they get it working soon so I can get the full version.
not sure what your guys issue with dice player is. I have it on mine and it plays mkvs, wmvs, avis flawlessly
Dice Player plays high bitrate 1080p flawless for me. The only problem is the trial is only available so you have to uninstall and reinstall every 3 days.
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neok44 said:
not sure what your guys issue with dice player is. I have it on mine and it plays mkvs, wmvs, avis flawlessly
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The problem is the dev's actually. The account he was using to receive payment for the full version got suspended (for whatever reason), and due to that he isn't able to continue selling the full version anymore. If you were an early adopter (like I was, due to having a Asus Transformer), it's a non-issue because you already bought it. I'm not sure why the dev is taking forever to fix the issue.
EDIT:And on that note, I also must say that all MKV files I have downloaded work perfectly fine on my nexus using diceplayer. Both 720P and 1080P (only tried 1, just to see if it worked, since it is rather pointless unless you're outputting to a TV) work just fine and without any issues for me. I haven't tried any strangely encoded files yet, but so far all normal HDTV encoded files worked just fine.
cvbcbcmv said:
You a usenet user? Mkv files are all over that. (I hope you are, I wanna talk to somebody about how amazing it is!!!)
I watched a 3 gig mkv file of a 1 hour season finale of flashpoint (anybody watch it BTW?) and it was flawless. Jules was as amazing as ever, and Ed was as bald as ever.
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man I wish usenet was free
CrazyDelta said:
Thanks for the reply guys. Appreciate it.
However, I found this video review on YouTube and it kinda made me pessimistic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eDnY_nZ2SiE
*I hope it is ok posting a link to a video here.
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It's smooth once it get's hardware decoded.
No smartphone processor can decode 1080p without lag, which is exactly why OMAP put an IVA-HD chip inside to do all the work.
Much like the rest of the members I use dice player and it plays everything i throw at it. I use to have an issue with 12mbps MP4 files but they seem to have corrected that and now it is smooth for everything i throw at it.
is there a place to buy the full version or obtain one by other cough cough means?

[Q] Handbrake settings to encode video?

What are the best settings in Handbrake to encode video for the Nexus 7 2013? I'd like to take advantage of the increased resolution and stereo speakers on the newer model. Thanks!
WillJitsu said:
What are the best settings in Handbrake to encode video for the Nexus 7 2013? I'd like to take advantage of the increased resolution and stereo speakers on the newer model. Thanks!
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Excellent question. I am experimenting with various settings right now. So, maybe someone else will chime in with some results.
I'd be very interested in this as well..
maxdraki said:
I'd be very interested in this as well..
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Me too, anyone made any progress in their tries?
I used the handbrake part of the lifehacker guide on ripping blu-rays. http://lifehacker.com/5559007/the-hassle+free-guide-to-ripping-your-blu+ray-collection. Streamed and transcoded over Plex, it works nicely.
I just use the android tablet (on the latest version) and that generates mp4 files that play without issues on my Nexus. Dunno if there are other adjustments for even better quality video.
I may be the oddball here, but I have been finding that the N7 (with MXPlayer or VLC) will play 99% of HD files directly without conversion. There IS the issue of file space, but if your goal is the best video quality and aren't concerned about storage, then playing the original file and not transcoding it seems to be the way to go.
That said, I really can't see the difference between a 1080p and 720p encode, so I DO transcode to save space on the device. I have been using Handbrake with a 720p preset (can't remember what it is at the moment...) and they look great!
The hardware decoder works well up to H.264 high profile level 4.1. From my own tests it will start dropping frames at level 5.0.
PJ Clifford said:
I may be the oddball here, but I have been finding that the N7 (with MXPlayer or VLC) will play 99% of HD files directly without conversion. There IS the issue of file space, but if your goal is the best video quality and aren't concerned about storage, then playing the original file and not transcoding it seems to be the way to go.
That said, I really can't see the difference between a 1080p and 720p encode, so I DO transcode to save space on the device. I have been using Handbrake with a 720p preset (can't remember what it is at the moment...) and they look great!
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Absolutely! MX Player with ffmpeg for decoding multi channel audio works perfect, even when streaming from OTG! :good:
I usually try to convert so that movie playback does not consume crap loads of battery.
PJ Clifford said:
I have been using Handbrake with a 720p preset...
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Did you use these settings?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184002

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