Hi,
I was using Winamp but it doesn't have FLAC support. I've tried downloading LePlayer and Meridian, which both claim to have FLAC support, but it doesn't find any of the FLAC files in my sdcard. I can open FLAC files in ES File Explorer and choose Meridian and it'll play, but I'd like something that detects them automatically.
Thanks.
CM7 has FLAC support
I'm using Virtuous Sense, not CM7.
I started using the beta of GoneMad Media Player. It seems to be pretty good, and have some great features, .flac support as well.
Thanks. Does it discover flac files automatically?
goister: I have a burning question for you.
Obviously if you care enough to listen to .flac files you must be an audiophile of some sort. And the thing that bothered me is that my 5 year old Samsung YP-P2 MP3 player with DNSE 2.0 sounds SOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than any of the new phones, even with their Beat Mod crap.
I was thinking, is there any app or anything you can do to the phone that will make it produce quality playback?
Sorry, can't help you there. I suppose a headphone amp would help, but I'm not an audiophile anymore. I used to be (hence the flac files) but now I just enjoy the music as much as I can on my phone and a Sennheiser C300.
I don't think there's much you can do though, as phones are made with very tight tolerances in size and integration, so usually corners are cut in audio performance since most people can't tell the difference.
ATM, I am downloading Neutron Music Player. From the description, it seems to be good. Will test and let you know.
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It's pretty good!
If you don't wanna buy it, just pm me =P
EDIT: Still not as good as my Samsung player, but better than all the other's i tried.
Edit 2: I failed to press menu. Once I did, they had soooooo much options to fiddle with. I ended up tweaking the settings for like half an hour and got my phone on par with my mp3 player!
Super good! Highly recommend!
Does Neutron automatically discover flac and other non mp3 audio files?
no clue, but on their main site it lists like 30 different formats lol.
And Flac was one of em.
How about Andless?
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Hi, is their a equalizer in the music app on this phone? i cannot seem to find it
No there isn't unfortunately this is one of the things android has been lacking for a long time.
Sounds like osmething i can look into them myself. Any third party music players that have built in equalizers?
Nothing yet.
It's incredible to have this advanced OS, and this marketplace with 1000's of programs, but no one music player, which has equializer....
Is this an OS limitation, too hard to implement, or just simply noone had this idea yet??
By the way, I'm ready to donate to anyone who comes up with a working and good EQ for the Desire...
Astro Player Beta, BoomBoxoid both have EQs?
No experience with them, might be worth a look though?
i tired both this morning.. astro seems very basic.. no album art etc.. but works and the equaliser has an implact..
so does Boomboxiid but its almost to slick... caused my phone to lock up a few times and the player isnt that responsive so i uninstalled it.. stil though at least proves an equaliser is possible..
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Astro Player Beta, BoomBoxoid both have EQs?
No experience with them, might be worth a look though?
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Any new music players with good equalisers?
A standalone EQ app (or widget) would be better than a player with eq built in.
Reason I say this is because, it could then be applied to any app you use audio via headphones or line out, rather than only working on the audio player.
say you use spotify, as well as a standalone mp3 player app. Would be good if you could use the EQ on both...
What do most of you guys use in your vehicles for audio player from EVO phone? Ive tested winamp, poweramp, & currently the music player from CM7 stock. BTW what music player is used in the latest CM7 mod, when I had destroyer v2 it wasnt used there? I really like how it sets up all your folders & you can go thru each one. Poweramp has an EQ which people rant n rave about but it seems like the EQ gives an exaggerated sound when used in a vehicle with speakers...Opinions?
i'm using miui music player. you need to manually sign the apk and everythign to get it to install, but it's worth it. i can shoot you a copy if you want. i love the lyrics support and automatic album cover downloads, the app is just plain awesome.
Do you have any pix or videos of it in action? Dont care for the album art really jus that I can go into seperate folders with music.
here's the app itself. signed, so just install from adb or through a file browser.
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What do most of you guys use in your vehicles for audio player from EVO phone? Ive tested winamp, poweramp, & currently the music player from CM7 stock. BTW what music player is used in the latest CM7 mod, when I had destroyer v2 it wasnt used there? I really like how it sets up all your folders & you can go thru each one. Poweramp has an EQ which people rant n rave about but it seems like the EQ gives an exaggerated sound when used in a vehicle with speakers...Opinions?
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I haven't found a music app yet that can compete with an iPod's. Sadly, I hate everything Steve Jobs' name is attached to but their music app far surpasses ours. If I find/make one you can bet your ass I'll be posting it here lol.
For now, I use MIUI (what dkdude uses) when I have music on my phone and otherwise I just use my Zune HD.
+1 Sucks, but true.
PowerAmp
I use Power Amp. It is my favorite!
It's available on the market.
If you like the CM music app, try "Music Mod". It's free in the market, and also the app CM chose for their roms.
EDIT: I'm currently using the MIUI music app as well because I'm on MIUI... plus it's really good. In the past I've used Player Pro, it's really nice. They've recently added an equalizer, which isn't a big deal to me, but is for some. Mixzing is another decent one.
I use the stock Sense music player. Works just fine.
I use poweramp, it was actually the second app I paid for (first was metamorph). I just make sure to turn on the large lockscreen widget.
I have it piped in through the AUX port on my head unit. As far as the EQ and sound and all that, I just set up custom EQ settings (on the head unit itself) for my AUX input mode and everything sounds great.
I especially love how it starts playing automatically when I plug in the headphone jack, and stops playing automatically when I take it off.
the newest MIUI music is really great. Not sure if dkdude has a working versions of it though. Settings always causes a force close. i dont care much for the apple music. Took all my music off my ipad, which is a paperweight anyway
Dont you guys who use poweramp find the EQ sound to be exaggerated? Everytime Ive used it in my car and put on the EQ the SQ doesnt sound natural it sounds exaggerated & not right...Also if I were to get mp3s with 320kb would it sound as good as using an original CD or thats just not possible?
I'm a big fan of Cubed. I've used just about every free music player in the market, and IMO, nothing comes close.
ive used poweramp, cube, doubletwist, stock sense, stock gingerbread, but now i switched over to using MixZing, its my fav so far, its free, has an equilizer, automatically downloads album art and updates the tags, give u a folder search. its good stuff!!
I totally feel you on PowerAmp. IMO it does exaggerage the range by the EQ; in most cases I just turned it off. I did dig the interface for a bit but it was hard to use one-handed for me. Also, it was a bit unintuitive.
I'm using the stock player in CM7/Gingerbread and I'm perfectly happy with it. Simplicity trumps most things for me. When I run Sense, I just use the Sense player.
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the newest MIUI music is really great. Not sure if dkdude has a working versions of it though. Settings always causes a force close. i dont care much for the apple music. Took all my music off my ipad, which is a paperweight anyway
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Mine is working. Cm7. Tell me if you want an upload
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Dont you guys who use poweramp find the EQ sound to be exaggerated? Everytime Ive used it in my car and put on the EQ the SQ doesnt sound natural it sounds exaggerated & not right...Also if I were to get mp3s with 320kb would it sound as good as using an original CD or thats just not possible?
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I don't bother with the EQ in PowerAmp, but I've always felt it was kinda annoying to mess with software EQs, especially on a touchscreen. I just adjust settings as needed on the head unit itself, and that works great.
As to your second question, that's something that's been debated in audiophile circles for a long time. With a car stereo, you might notice a slight improvement with FLAC/CD over mp3, but it will be only in the highest of the high frequencies and honestly you'd have to be actively paying attention. And that's assuming that your audio equipment is even of a high enough fidelity in the first place. Road noise while driving won't be doing you any favours either.
In short: don't worry about it, 320kbps mp3 is more than fine and will sound just like the CD for all intents and purposes.
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Mine is working. Cm7. Tell me if you want an upload
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Yea please
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srry it took so long. been busy.
Hey guys, i don't know about you, but i have a TON of FLAC audio files which i would love to play on my phone. But, the issue is that Zune wont recognize it. I created a suggestion and if you feel the same way, you should vote for it to be implemented in future updates.
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/suggestions/2304622-enable-flac-and-other-lossless-formats?ref=title
That's why I stopped using Zune.
I have no idea why Microsoft decided to not support FLAC in Zune but someone in the Zune camp needs a kick in the backside.
Anyone with a half descent sound system can here the difference between a mp3 and FLAC file.
This is a lost cause. There's no way Microsoft will ever support open source codec's such as FLAC or MKV. Not only are these codecs undermining their MPEG-LA licensing efforts but using them will look weird when they start suing people for infringing on Microsoft's patents using these free ones.
Use WMA lossless.
I highly doubt you have such great gear tied to your phone that a 320 MP3 won't do.
It's not so much about the quality through the phone...I don't care about it, but many people like me, have really big FLAC libraries. I have absolutely no intention to convert these huge libraries to a lossy format because I listen to them through high end sound systems in my home. So, I just want Zune to recognize any flac file I throw into it, like it was an mp3, and be able to manage these libraries through Zune, even if it has to convert the tracks I sync with it to mp3. I wonder why everybody thinks that it's only an issue about the quality through the phone...It's more of an organizing issue...I want to be able to browse my libraries like everyone else and sync the files I want through Zune...
I can certainly understand the wish and frustration. But it's not going to happen. So you better learn to live with it or choose another OS.
There is a chance that an OEM can do it though, so you may have better luck letting them know.
hard drive space is cheap, why not convert it all for Zune, while retaining the flac files for use with other devices
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Actually, I can't imagine what other devices may support flac but not support aac/wma lossless.
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It's not so much about the quality through the phone...I don't care about it, but many people like me, have really big FLAC libraries. I have absolutely no intention to convert these huge libraries to a lossy format because I listen to them through high end sound systems in my home. So, I just want Zune to recognize any flac file I throw into it, like it was an mp3, and be able to manage these libraries through Zune, even if it has to convert the tracks I sync with it to mp3. I wonder why everybody thinks that it's only an issue about the quality through the phone...It's more of an organizing issue...I want to be able to browse my libraries like everyone else and sync the files I want through Zune...
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I Know how you feel I have over 2 TB of saved files that I spent days converting.
I will just keep using foobar or something similar.
For the record most of the music sold by HDtracks is FLAC.
frankly speaking I prefer FLAC than mp3 but as for now what I can hear is Lossless WMA
I just got an update today for both my Gnex and N7 and tested it out and it works!!! I am SOO happy now This has been bothering me for so long, but after the update, I put a live album on that is easy to tell and there were NO GAPS!!
I'm just mildly happy. It does work for MP3 and Vorbis files, but not for AAC which I happen to use for my audio collection. Haven't tested any other formats so far.
Definitely a step in the right direction though.
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I'm just mildly happy. It does work for MP3 and Vorbis files, but not for AAC which I happen to use for my audio collection. Haven't tested any other formats so far.
Definitely a step in the right direction though.
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Well, I upload my music to google music, and all higher quality music just gets converted to the highest rate MP3 anyway. But that is good to know, thanks.
Listening to it now, love it.
#Galaxy Nexus HSPA+
I think this was done in time to appease people who buy the Nexus 4 and need a solution for music that they can't put on their phone due to the low storage space.
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I think this was done in time to appease people who buy the Nexus 4 and need a solution for music that they can't put on their phone due to the low storage space.
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And gapless playback helps this how?
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And gapless playback helps this how?
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People with a ton of music on their computer, especially live albums, tend to love things like gapless playback. If they can't play a lot of music on their phone locally, as is the case on the Nexus 4 with its limited storage which is also needed for apps, photos, video, etc, they will buy another phone or a dedicated mp3 player. However, now that Google music has gapless playback just in time for the sale of the Nexus 4, more people will warm up to the idea of playing their music over the cloud with a Nexus 4 and they will buy it.
This isn't related to cloud storage. Gapless playbck didn't work AT ALL in the Android music app until now, even for files stored on the device.
I've tested a different AAC encoder and the files it produced do play gaplessly.
Apparently, the gapless information stored by Nero AAC (current version 1.5.4.0) isn't supported by the Android music app. It does work an any other device/software player with gapless playback support I tried, so the problem is probably on Google's end. It even works on Apple devices.
Files produced by the Quicktime AAC encoder work fine.
Does it have to be in an album or what? And is the gap less trigger stored in the file itself?
There are some tracks - not live albums - of various artists that have gap less tracks (Green Day's Holiday and Boulevard Of Broken Dreams is an example, Royksopp's Melody A.M. album is another)... So how does it great those tracks in that case? Gap less, or standard?
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You're confusing gapless with crossfade. Crossfade plays the second track before the first ends, merging them into one. Gapless just makes sure that there is no additional gap between the files, the second track is played exactly when the first ends.
As you can see, there is no reason to disable gapless for specific situations. It is never harmful.
I didn't mean cross fade; I know exactly what gapless playback is all I was curious to find out was are there certain rules where gapless playback kicks in, or does it apply on all tracks by default.
(In short - how the app knows when to remove gaps and when to treat it like normal files)
Because it was said that encoding it in AAC using Nero doesn't help, but QuickTime encoding works... So... Kinda confusing me.
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I didn't mean cross fade; I know exactly what gapless playback is all I was curious to find out was are there certain rules where gapless playback kicks in, or does it apply on all tracks by default.
(In short - how the app knows when to remove gaps and when to treat it like normal files)
Because it was said that encoding it in AAC using Nero doesn't help, but QuickTime encoding works... So... Kinda confusing me.
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Gapless playback under Android doesn't remove any data from the files or depend on any metadata scheme. It just plays the tracks back-to-back so that any silence between tracks is due to that silence being encoded in the files themselves.
The underlying mechanism for gapless playback was added to the Android SDK for Jellybean/4.1. I added it my music app a couple months ago. I was surprised that Google didn't add this into their player at the same time that Jellybean was released.
Oh... So there's no gap or delay when playing the files (or switching from one file to another), right?
I thought it involved using a buffer and cutting to the next file and whatnot.
So its all normal. Thanks.
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Hmm some things are gapless others aren't. Really annoying.
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aeoveu said:
I didn't mean cross fade; I know exactly what gapless playback is all I was curious to find out was are there certain rules where gapless playback kicks in, or does it apply on all tracks by default.
(In short - how the app knows when to remove gaps and when to treat it like normal files)
Because it was said that encoding it in AAC using Nero doesn't help, but QuickTime encoding works... So... Kinda confusing me.
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Ah, now I understand what you mean.
Lossy audio compression (like MP3, AAC, whatever...) adds a bit of silence at the end and beginning of each track. It's part of how lossy audio codecs work.
In order to remove this silence during playback, modern encoding tools write some additional data to the compressed audio file that says "remove x milliseconds at the beginning and y milliseconds at the end" to restore the tracks original length. Players need to look for such data and skip the additional parts accordingly.
If you take an album that has silence at the end of tracks on the CD and convert it to MP3/AAC/whatever, it will add some more silence to it. A player that supports gaplesss playback will remove this additional silence, but keep the original silence that was on the CD.
AFAIK, there is no official standard on how to write this gapless information to the compressed audio file, so different codecs do it in a different way and developers of audio players must take a look at files produced by popular codecs to understand how each codec handles it and implement support for it.
Android 4.2 along with the latest version of the music app supports the format used by Lame MP3, Vorbis and Quicktime AAC (and probably others, these are just the ones I tested). AAC files produced by Nero AAC, which do have gapless data and work fine on other players, are not supported at the moment.
Ahhh so that's how it works. I've been a long time winamp user and use the silence remover capability in there...which does it on the fly! Never tried it with portable devices...but I think I may give it a shot this time.
Cheers!
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I enjoy the cross-fade feature in PowerAmp, would be cool to see that implemented one day too.
Cross fading in those apps are basic i.e. they only work on a constant. Not sure if any of you guys know about this plugin for Winamp called Sqr Advanced Cross fader... it works based on the silence level of the currently paying song, and works wonderfully in most cases.
Then there are times when I end up cross fading songs myself in Winamp
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Ah, now I understand what you mean.
Lossy audio compression (like MP3, AAC, whatever...) adds a bit of silence at the end and beginning of each track. It's part of how lossy audio codecs work.
In order to remove this silence during playback, modern encoding tools write some additional data to the compressed audio file that says "remove x milliseconds at the beginning and y milliseconds at the end" to restore the tracks original length. Players need to look for such data and skip the additional parts accordingly.
If you take an album that has silence at the end of tracks on the CD and convert it to MP3/AAC/whatever, it will add some more silence to it. A player that supports gaplesss playback will remove this additional silence, but keep the original silence that was on the CD.
AFAIK, there is no official standard on how to write this gapless information to the compressed audio file, so different codecs do it in a different way and developers of audio players must take a look at files produced by popular codecs to understand how each codec handles it and implement support for it.
Android 4.2 along with the latest version of the music app supports the format used by Lame MP3, Vorbis and Quicktime AAC (and probably others, these are just the ones I tested). AAC files produced by Nero AAC, which do have gapless data and work fine on other players, are not supported at the moment.
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Very nice explanation, thank you!
So I went ahead and listened to some of my lossy mixes, still .1 second gaps between songs... it hurts wish the player could analyze the spectrum and fix this... guess nobody at google listens to trance
On the plus side, I ran a local mix that was in FLAC, and it was truly gapless! Too bad that it every 30 seconds theres a .5 second pause.....
I remember not having these problems 2004, why do I have them in 2012
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Just use PowerAmp, you'll need to pay a few Euro's, but that player is just great! Gapless playback? Like that is a novelty! PowerAmp had Gapless playback 2 years ago already! Besides that, PowerAmp has a great Equalizer and a big deal of other settings to match it to your liking...
I am looking for a clean and good sounding music player. I like the stock media player app layout but it shutters when playing occasionally. This bothers me some. I don't like dbPoweamp or Rocket Media player. I've tried Winamp, but it doesn't read half of my album artwork for some reason. My music is encoded in Vorbis (.ogg) at quality 8. I know it isn't my files. It's the player. The shuttering doesn't happen often, but occasionally. Also, I don't like that it uses "the" when looking under letters for albums.
PlayerPro is pretty awesome
i get hicups on the stck app as well, but only on super high quality lossless audio, mp3 are fine. i hope s4 doesnt hicup
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i get hicups on the stck app as well, but only on super high quality lossless audio, mp3 are fine. i hope s4 doesnt hicup
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I tried PlayerPro, and it hiccuped just as much. Then I optimized the read speed of my MicroSD by using one of the cache altering apps. I haven't heard nearly as many hiccups since.
Edit: The card was still benchmarking at almost 20 mb/s. So I don't see why this would have helped.
Try over clocking
hard to believe but our phones processors could be the problem
I haven't tested my theory yet thought
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Have you tried Music Player Remix? I've been loving this player since webos. Developer is great and very responsive. Was posting a link here but new user's can't post links. Its in the playstore