I've been holding off buying the S III for some time in hopes of something better, but nothing has come along so I finally bit the bullet. I bought a new white one off ebay for $450, which is on the cheaper side. It came with a rather deep scratch on the bottom right on the chrome, but frankly its hard to notice and the rest of the phone seems to work fine. Wanted to ask a few questions and make a few comments.
1. Screen is the best AMOLED screen period. The lack of reflection and infinite viewing angles puts it head and shoulders above all phone IPS screens I've used. Also on a completely different level to the beta AMOLED screens Samsung was churning out. None of the pixelation, dithering, artifacts, lines, blotches, and crap from the S II or the Note. It doesn't turn to crap when I dim the screen, and looks very nice and even like that. The saturation has been toned down as well and looks better. However, I wish the greens were not so BLUE and the skin tones were less ghastly red/yellow/orange.
2. My volume keys are firm and clicky, but my power button is kind of loose. Will it deteriorate over time?
3. The battery cover is still a horrible design. My left side snaps into place completely, but there is a gap that you can put a fingernail and also feel the seam and slight hump since its not flush. This is normal for Samsung right? My Note also had a battery cover problem. It would ot snap in, and I had to jam it in at a very sharp angle and bend the cover back heavily. At least that was flush. This one is not. Also noticed looseness on the top corners with the S3, especially when you move the phone around or hold it in landscape and either push the corners a bit or hold onto them. I think this is endemic to the S3 since all the display phones at my local store had the same problem, along with the entire cover being taped up since they were coming off of course.
4. The home button is hard to press. I also noticed this on the demo models. Why couldn't it be more like the iPhone's button? The amount of force required to push it, its location at the very end of the phone, and the lightweight nature of the phone means I have to hold the phone firmly down or the entire thing just might bounce out of my hand. I usually have to hold the bottom underneath the button and pinch down with my thumb. That's not very satisfying either, since I am also pushing up into a looser part of the back cover and it flexes a bit, especially since there's that hole where the microUSB plugs into. I try to avoid using the home button and use back all the way if possible.
5. The phone is fast, but not blazingly fast or smooth. It's better than my old One X. Still far from the smoothness of a Windows Phone device. Hopefully Jelly Bean will help a lot.
6. They need to disable the capacitive keys during camera mode. I always end up pushing one or both of them and exiting the camera or getting edit popups. Same problem I had on the Note.
7. Phone looks and feels a million times better without the rim sticking out above the glass surface. It's more prone to damage, but I'll take the look and unimpeded finger swiips any day.
8. The Note had a much much better speaker. The S3 sounds like an S2 without the back cover helping muffle it.
katamari201 said:
I've been holding off buying the S III for some time in hopes of something better, but nothing has come along so I finally bit the bullet. I bought a new white one off ebay for $450, which is on the cheaper side. It came with a rather deep scratch on the bottom right on the chrome, but frankly its hard to notice and the rest of the phone seems to work fine. Wanted to ask a few questions and make a few comments.
1. Screen is the best AMOLED screen period. The lack of reflection and infinite viewing angles puts it head and shoulders above all phone IPS screens I've used. Also on a completely different level to the beta AMOLED screens Samsung was churning out. None of the pixelation, dithering, artifacts, lines, blotches, and crap from the S II or the Note. It doesn't turn to crap when I dim the screen, and looks very nice and even like that. The saturation has been toned down as well and looks better. However, I wish the greens were not so BLUE and the skin tones were less ghastly red/yellow/orange.
2. My volume keys are firm and clicky, but my power button is kind of loose. Will it deteriorate over time?
3. The battery cover is still a horrible design. My left side snaps into place completely, but there is a gap that you can put a fingernail and also feel the seam and slight hump since its not flush. This is normal for Samsung right? My Note also had a battery cover problem. It would ot snap in, and I had to jam it in at a very sharp angle and bend the cover back heavily. At least that was flush. This one is not. Also noticed looseness on the top corners with the S3, especially when you move the phone around or hold it in landscape and either push the corners a bit or hold onto them. I think this is endemic to the S3 since all the display phones at my local store had the same problem, along with the entire cover being taped up since they were coming off of course.
4. The home button is hard to press. I also noticed this on the demo models. Why couldn't it be more like the iPhone's button? The amount of force required to push it, its location at the very end of the phone, and the lightweight nature of the phone means I have to hold the phone firmly down or the entire thing just might bounce out of my hand. I usually have to hold the bottom underneath the button and pinch down with my thumb. That's not very satisfying either, since I am also pushing up into a looser part of the back cover and it flexes a bit, especially since there's that hole where the microUSB plugs into. I try to avoid using the home button and use back all the way if possible.
5. The phone is fast, but not blazingly fast or smooth. It's better than my old One X. Still far from the smoothness of a Windows Phone device. Hopefully Jelly Bean will help a lot.
6. They need to disable the capacitive keys during camera mode. I always end up pushing one or both of them and exiting the camera or getting edit popups. Same problem I had on the Note.
7. Phone looks and feels a million times better without the rim sticking out above the glass surface. It's more prone to damage, but I'll take the look and unimpeded finger swiips any day.
8. The Note had a much much better speaker. The S3 sounds like an S2 without the back cover helping muffle it.
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1. There is a setting in display settings to adj screen tone. See if that helps.
2. Some have reported this, but mine is fine. Not loose at all.
3. The battery cover while flimsy i agree, should snap on with ease. No raised or humped section, no gap for a fingernail... almost sounds like yours took a nasty fall or other impact... it should fit just fine with no blemishes.
4. Home isnt hard to push. Agree though that it couldve been implemented much better.
5. Imho, this thing screams. Never had any problems with lag or not being smooth and speedy. Top of the line if you ask me.
8. Speakers fine for me, for what it is. I never expect the external speaker to be super high quality.
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On the screen issue, have you gone out to broad daylight and trying to see the screen? Its tough. I still prefer IPS screens.
The home button is hard to press. Being accustomed to only capacitive buttons, the home button is tough to press. Even more so with my ballistics case.
The back is plastics but it gets the job done
The power button is sturdy and fine on my end
I agree with the camera button.
I also got mine from eBay about a month ago for 469 and although it was used, it was kept and very good condition. All I have is a small line on the gray part of the phone by the volume button that only extends about 2 mm. Sometimes I forget its there. The screen is my biggest letdown. Coming from 2 LG devices, the IPS screen is the best screens in my opinion. Natural colors, awesome brightness. This one is good I enjoy it but its not great.
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Hey man.. Cool thing you got an s3 but if I was you, I would of waited til tomorrow for the nexus 4 and paid 100$ less.
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Crisisx1 said:
Hey man.. Cool thing you got an s3 but if I was you, I would of waited til tomorrow for the nexus 4 and paid 100$ less.
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I played with an Optimus G in-store, basically a Nexus 4. Did not like it AT ALL. The glass was icky. Was not impressed by the display. It was washed out looking. This is in comparison to the One X and iPhone, not just AMOLED.
IPS is better outdoors and at max brightness. However, indoors at low brightness the contrast looks way better on the AMOLED screen of the GS3.
Oh man the 5" HTC Droid DNA is coming out. If it can be unlocked for GSM networks, I'm itching the jump again...haha I had the Note two months ago too.
I'm getting buyers remorse from the build quality. Just holding or moving the phone around and taking it out of my pocket, there's always a creak or a flex from the loose back cover. The phone is kinda slippery and clammy, not much to hold on to, and the jiggly power button. I said I would never buy another Samsung phone because of build, but here I am again...a sucker for the screen!
3. My battery cover is perfectly flush. I have pulled it off to change sd cards and once when initially rooting.. I simply put it in place and smoothly press the edges while moving around the whole phone.. all click in, flush
5. check to see if Power saving mode is on, and if cpu saving is on in power saving ... if it is, chances are your phone is only hitting 1GHz
when power saving is off (via the handy toggle in the notification shade dropdown), phone is allowed to hit full 1.5 GHz
another reason for some speed loss is the samsung touchwiz environment.. beautiful, but a bit heavy
jellybean from a google/nexus base IS faster, but mainly cuz it is more bare
cheers!
Samsung Galaxy S3, 16GB, pebble blue
rooted, running jellybean 4.1.1 on touchwiz-based Xquizit xD rom
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First off, I just got my tilt2 from stores yesterday, and I must say, I love it so much! Just got a few concerns...
For those of you who have the tilt2, when the screen is tilted all the way up, is there a "looseness" of about 2-3 degrees? Meaning, theres just a small portion of the tilt2 at its most "tilted moment," so to speak, that it just wiggles back and forth for about2-3 degrees? It's not too big of a deal really as the current tilting of the tilt2 seems MUCH more sturdy (and it will probably last much longer holding its tilt feature), but I want to know if its a physical defect on my current tilt2, or that's just how its made for whatever reason.
Also, I am quite worried about how much looser the top screen portion of the tilt2 is from the bottom keyboard when closed all the way as compared to my original tilt. If I were to slightly use my hands to grab each separate part and pull them apart gently, it is easy to see that it easily lifts, and if I pulled any harder, I can almost break those halves apart, whereas my first tilt BARELY budged even after 2 years of use. Basically, everything about the tilt2 is better, but it seems like it won't be able to take much of a beating as compared to the tilt1.
Just concerned about inevitable wear-n-tear, and its effects itll have in the long run, or couple of months even. Thanks in advance for future input!
Regards,
K
The 2-3 degrees of wobble is normal from what I've read. Mine has it too. It's slightly unfortunate, but doesn't really cause any practical problems.
I have read at least one report of a screen that can be separated from the body by a lot when closed. He said he could fit 15 (I think) playing cards in there, which mine most certainly could not fit. I never had a tilting phone before to compare to, but I am satisfied with my closed gap, which only goes up to about 1mm with light separating pressure. If your gap is much larger than that, it may be one of the less well attached screens.
I have the same problem with my tilt 2. Its abit annoying when you press in the screen on the left side of the device in portrait mode with the keyboard closed and the screen pushes in because of the gap but I don't beleive its a defect. I have seen some sturdier as my buddy's tilt 2 have zero play but his keyboard is hitting the bottom of the device and has scratched some keys so I would take mine any day. Plus I don't wanna chance it and take it back for an exchange as what you get may be worse.. IE - Dead pixel, screen QTY, keyboard lights, an even more loose slider, etc, etc.
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The 2-3 degrees of wobble is normal from what I've read. Mine has it too. It's slightly unfortunate, but doesn't really cause any practical problems.
I have read at least one report of a screen that can be separated from the body by a lot when closed. He said he could fit 15 (I think) playing cards in there, which mine most certainly could not fit. I never had a tilting phone before to compare to, but I am satisfied with my closed gap, which only goes up to about 1mm with light separating pressure. If your gap is much larger than that, it may be one of the less well attached screens.
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Thanks for your reply, makes me feel at ease. Also, I think you've misunderstood, my gap is as small as you say, and from your words, it must be normal. It's when I intentionally put pressure on the screen and keyboard (not that I would do that on a normal basis, just for initial inspection purposes) that makes the gap wider. Though, I guess with a tilting screen like this, theres less tightness between the screen and keyboard. But nonetheless, all is normal. I was only concerned with those when I purposely applied my own force. I was not use to how much more delicate this machine, the tilt2, is as compared to my brick of a tilt1.
Regards,
K
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I have the same problem with my tilt 2. Its abit annoying when you press in the screen on the left side of the device in portrait mode with the keyboard closed and the screen pushes in because of the gap but I don't beleive its a defect. I have seen some sturdier as my buddy's tilt 2 have zero play but his keyboard is hitting the bottom of the device and has scratched some keys so I would take mine any day. Plus I don't wanna chance it and take it back for an exchange as what you get may be worse.. IE - Dead pixel, screen QTY, keyboard lights, an even more loose slider, etc, etc.
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Yes, that was one of my que's from the start.
It was when the whole device was closed and I was playing with the touch screen, you could feel the screen go down a bit as I applied pressure to it. It was almost like if i pressed any harder, the bottom of the screen would just keep hitting the keyboard. But hey, glad to see that this seems to be a normal thing.
Regards,
K
PS. Oh and yes, I noticed it when I tapped on the left side of the screen as well.
Over all I'm happy with the build quality of my GSM GNex, but it has one minor flaw.
The plastic edge around the screen. Top, Bottom and Right side are perfect and rounded smooth (just like my SGS2), but the left edge i kinda rough and not rounded and smooth like the others. It has a rough feel with a slight sharp feel if you slide your finger over it and makes a "small" rough sound.
Do any of you recognize this? Or is your GNex perfectly smooth like the SGS2?
mine feels uniformly smooth on all sides. one thing i don't like though is dust being trapped in between the said edges and screen. other than that it's flawless
I'm very happy with the build quality on my verizon version.
My only gripe about my GN physically is the rear cover. Just below the camera if you put a small amount of pressure on the cover and then release it, you can hear a slight clicking noise as the cover pops back out.
Other than that, flawless.
My problem .... frigging power button on side of the phone!!! I have to be so careful not to do a screen shoot its just unbelievable ...only other way of switching screen on or off is to hold the phone form top instead resting it on your palm
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My Gnex is perfectly solid despite having dropped it on tile twice. Yeah, I'm a klutz. There aren't any creaks in it, no popped-up glass, buttons are smooth, no loose or rough joins anywhere.
As I mentioned in another thread, the "flimsy" back cover of the Gnex has an advantage in that it doesn't fly off and let the battery go as well when the phone is dropped. Every smartphone I've ever owned would, when dropped, fly in three different directions when it hit the ground- phone in one direction, back cover in another, battery in another. The Gnex stays in one piece.
Somehow I've only managed to break two phones in my life despite my constant accidental drop testing. Neither of the broken phones was a Samsung (one was a SE X10 dropped into a sinkful of water, the other a BlackBerry dropped on pavement). Admittedly the Samsungs feel a little flimsy next to a lot of high-end phones, but the fact that they are lightweight and plastic actually makes them more durable, IME.
Mine is fine, outside of one extremely annoying issue. The vibrate motor on my unlocked GSM Nexus makes the phone rattle on the bottom right side (obviously where the motor is housed) if I'm not holding the phone on that side. I am normally a vibrate all the time guy...now I only have it vibrate for phone calls because it annoys me so much. I love how powerful and silent the motor is when I'm holding it...(at least compared to my Droid Incredible 2). My Verizon Nexus didn't do this at all before I returned it. Sad.
Lodion said:
My only gripe about my GN physically is the rear cover. Just below the camera if you put a small amount of pressure on the cover and then release it, you can hear a slight clicking noise as the cover pops back out.
Other than that, flawless.
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Argh, hadn't noticed that before. cannot unhear the clicking noise
put a layer or two of masking tape on the back of the cover until the space has been taken up. problem solved.
My software buttons are uneven. Vertically. Should I sand them down or beat with hammer?
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This shoud fix the battery cover problem http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Metal-ba...858658?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2a1808d5e2
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My software buttons are uneven. Vertically.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
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Mine too. I've exchanged 3 times and they all have the same problem. I think it is because of the curved glass.
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My software buttons are uneven. Vertically.
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I am curious. What are you talking about here? do you mean the virtual buttons on the bottom are not aligned? Could you do a screenshot to show what you mean if that is the case? I have never heard of that one before.
@rbiter said:
My software buttons are uneven. Vertically. Should I sand them down or beat with hammer?
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
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Lol. I had to quote myself. Guess the joke was missed.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
Thanks for all the replies. I ended of returning my GNex as a DOA, so now I'm waiting for a new one.
I have bought a new Galaxy Note 2 a couple of days ago but there are some problems with build quality, I don't know if they are widespread or not!
The battery cover squeaks when I press over it, mainly near loudspeaker and volume buttons.
The volume and power buttons feel a bit loose, i.e. they move half a millimeter vertically.
Do you have the same problems? Is my device defective? Do I have any chance with warranty to fix these?
Eienkei said:
I have bought a new Galaxy Note 2 a couple of days ago but there are some problems with build quality, I don't know if they are widespread or not!
The battery cover squeaks when I press over it, mainly near loudspeaker and volume buttons.
The volume and power buttons feel a bit loose, i.e. they move half a millimeter vertically.
Do you have the same problems? Is my device defective? Do I have any chance with warranty to fix these?
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buttons do feel a bit loose, but no biggie for me especially those on volume. battery cover squeaks a bit when pressed too hard, but it's plastic, and plastic with right amount of pressure squeaks.
I have minimal movement in the buttons. A fraction of a millimeter, if any. I have absolutely no squeek with normal use but can fine an area that squeeks if i try hard. Make sure your cover is properly fitted.
Mine doesn't squeak in normal use either but if I push it, it will!
Stupid thread
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Stupid thread
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Ha ha ha
No this isnt stupid thread.
I have some problems. F... Phone for 600Eur
I hate plastic, so I hate Samsung for that. But sorry the buttons don't feel loose, and what do you mean by back plate squeaks near speaker grill, when do you try to open it or just normally press it when it's firmly sitting there? If it's the latter then mine doesn't squeak too.
But other than these, I don't like build quality, how can I when it's all plastic!
My phone makes an awful noise when I drop it. Solution - don't drop it.
My phone makes a noise when I press the back cover. Solution - don't press the back cover.
Is pressing the back cover of the phone something that you need to do in normal use?
Anyhow I saw a comment a while ago that taking the cover off or putting it on in a certain way can damage the tabs along the edge and cause it to squeak. Check the tabs and see if they are all there or are damaged
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It's a flagship for crying out loud! You really think the solution is not touching or thinking about it? Don't get me wrong, I love every bit of my phone but Samsung really has to do better with build quality of it's flagships. What was wrong with S2 design? It didn't squeak and was more scratch resistant...
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It's a flagship for crying out loud! You really think the solution is not touching or thinking about it? Don't get me wrong, I love every bit of my phone but Samsung really has to do better with build quality of it's flagships. What was wrong with S2 design? It didn't squeak and was more scratch resistant...
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I agree! Infact on S2 the bottom bulk ensure that I hold the phone the right way. Holding Note 2 is a dicey affair as its symmetrical design makes it difficult to know the orientation. I HATE glossy plastic button against the Matte finish, practically indestructible thin plastic on S2. Although I don't like the exposed bottom bulk which is not covered by the battery cover! I personally prefer the plastic cover on Galaxy R which completely cover the back including the area around the MicroUSB port which can easily get scratched otherwise.
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It's a flagship for crying out loud! You really think the solution is not touching or thinking about it? Don't get me wrong, I love every bit of my phone but Samsung really has to do better with build quality of it's flagships. What was wrong with S2 design? It didn't squeak and was more scratch resistant...
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While plastic, it is much stronger than some of the more popular alternatives out there.
Which do you prefer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rofgMueCOqo
I have a Galaxy Ace which squeaks a bit. So I use a case which makes it not squeak at all.
You could try that.
Back squeaking would be gone if you put a business card between battery and back cover, so don't think that it was made due pulling it off in a bad way or anything else!
Eienkei said:
I have bought a new Galaxy Note 2 a couple of days ago but there are some problems with build quality, I don't know if they are widespread or not!
The battery cover squeaks when I press over it, mainly near loudspeaker and volume buttons.
The volume and power buttons feel a bit loose, i.e. they move half a millimeter vertically.
Do you have the same problems? Is my device defective? Do I have any chance with warranty to fix these?
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My battery cover squeaks on the opposite side -- near the power button. Although this is probably because I'm using the official flip cover and the portion of the battery cover near the volume buttons is quite stable and thick. Honestly it was initially annoying as hell because I noticed it a week after getting the phone, but it doesn't bother me as much now. At least it doesn't really exhibit the squeaking when I'm actually using the phone -- only when I'm making myself notice it. LOL.
The buttons (volume and power) are a bit flimsy. Way too easy to press, especially the power button. But I'm using the official flip cover + IntelliCover app. So I don't have to actually USE the power button anymore. Not a real solution, but it's a good workaround for those using flip covers.
One more thing to add to obsession list, bezels tend to squeak on certain points!
bezel is coming off
any one expensed the bezel around the screen coming loose?
bought 4 days and already seeing this
It's like that from beginning... Nothing to worry about! Maybe a mechanism to avoid breaking...
Mine has nothing wrong... no squeaks, no loss buttons
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I'm sure many of us have gone through countless returns, replacements, and refunds, with Samsung's range of Galaxy smartphones, believing that our phones were defective as a result of absurd manufacturing anomalies and quality control problems. Though, we are not Samsung factory workers, it appears Samsung has given us some labor. Obviously spending $700+ on a phone is not little. However, according to Samsung, everything I am about to disclose is normal. To alleviate the hassle of dealing with a company that has a pretty poor track-record when it comes to quality control; I would strongly advise not to return your Note 2 to the service center or store for the following reasons,
I have listed common problems some of us have come across; along with are some Do-It-Yourself Tips and Tricks to resolve these minute problems.
Squeaky back cover?
- Ensure all sides of the back cover have clipped in properly; there should be no gaps, the fitting should be seamless
- If that doesn't resolve the squeaking, replace the back cover with a new one (cheap plastic tends to expand)
- Try not to remove and install the back cover over and over again, as that will eventually weaken the plastic clippings on the back cover
- Do Not Remove the Back Cover Forcefully!
Light leaking on sides of home button?
- The home button has plagued Samsung for the past couple of years. But don't worry, your home button is not defective.
- The button is not uniformly seated properly, that explains. As a matter of fact, your home button should be flushed, not elevated above the display. To check if your button has light leakage, go into a dark room, angle your phone while the capacitive lights are on, and verify light leakage in the home button area.
- Solution: Place a piece of tape over the whole button, ensure that the tape is placed beyond the edges and sides of the home button. The tape will help keep the button seated properly and flushed, equally on both sides. Now as long as you massage and use the home button a few times a day, and remove the tape after a couple of weeks, the light will no longer protrude through the sides of the home button.
Black specks / Bezel Chrome Finish production errors?
- A lot of you may not be noticing this; only if you orient your phone at a particular angle, you may notice the chrome paint color inconsistency on the bezel (the chrome paint job was not done properly), black specks will show to some degree; now if it bothers you so much, put a case on. There is nothing you can do about it; all Note 2's have this quality control problem one way or the other.
- You don't have to worry if the metallic painting is not done properly behind the phone, as the back cover will conceal it.
Loose Volume Rocker control buttons / Power button?
- As long as you feel the button feedback and hear the button press on both volume and power keys, but feel that the buttons are loose, use a case, or massaging the buttons for a little while will help.
AMOLED Display Issues?
- Refer to the following thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108073
I will update this thread if I can think any more things to look out for when buying a Note 2. If you have any suggestions share them in this thread. Hopefully, someday, this thread can have a sticky.
Hope this helps, enjoy your phone!
This thread applies to International Note 2 and U.S. Carrier Variants.
Titanium Grey color Note 2's noticeably have a minuscule gap between the bezel and glass on top.
Just like the Galaxy S3, the Ceramic White Note 2's are notable for the bleeding light around the LED indicators and touch-capacitive buttons.
Many have spotted small gaps between the bezel and the glass of the display. I have cross-checked with over '12' Note 2 pieces across several stores, and they all have this gap in various areas, (i.e. top of the unit, bottom of the unit, and near the power / volume controls).
Secondly, although I could not find this on my T-Mobile Note 2 (I even used a magnifying glass to confirm), some of you may have noticed that the bezel is NOT 100% molded. If you inspect closely, you will notice a joint at which it appears your bezel is cracked, but is not. You might find this disappointing, but according to Samsung standards, the joint appearance is completely normal. Some joints (meeting of both sides of the bezel) will be very prominent, and some will not (in the case of mine).
Unfortunately, Samsung does not have consistent quality control with their devices, and you will definitely spot manufacturing variations, but don't be alarmed.
You should really consider these variations as consistent according to Samsung's quality control.
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Visiting the squeaking back cover again, this sometimes also occurs when the end-user forcefully removed the back-cover by chance. Treat your Note 2 with care.
However, some back-covers are indeed cheaply Made by Samsung, and the clippings are not always made consistently; therefore, you will see different results from unit to unit.
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My only issue is my included Samsung usb cable comes loose very easily. The same goes for the cable which was included with my Galaxy s3. I have found an LG micro USB cable that fits nice and snug. Comparing the two, the LG cable's metal connector is about 10% longer than the Samsung. Guess i will have to keep my eyes peeled for longet usb cables.
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The thing that worries me is when I use sky maps with my gps off. It's way off, like the other side of the world off. The only way I was able to get sky maps working right was to turn the gps setting on in sky maps and to have gps on when using it.
Other then that I was reading about people's compass being off. Mine seems to work good in the compass app. Even with gps off.
I just got my Note 2 today and other then that I love this phone. I cannot belive how great it works (knock on wood).
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on my 4th note 2
I am currently on my fourth note 2, yes FOURTH. I went through three of them in the first month. I did exchange, exchange, return. And then I drove to a different corporate tmobile store to buy this fourth one.
all gray color devices manufactured in october.
1st note2: roll axis was off by 6 degrees, making it really annoying to play racing games because I had to hold the phone crooked to drive straight(and no, this sensor cannot be calibrated, i'm a software engineer and I researched it for about 10 hours). everything else was ok
2nd: roll axis was off by 5 degrees, compass off by 45 degrees
3rd: roll axis off by 2 degrees. unusually large gap in top portion of bezel(letting lots of dust in). Dead green pixel in center of screen, dead green pixel in lower right. And it seemed like the entire right side of the device was permanently magnetized, it was very difficult to use the s-pen on that side, and when it did work it was very inaccurate. Also, a couple times I woke up and the screen was on(apparently all night), perhaps due to some part of the phone being crazy magnetized, compass off by about 45 degrees
4th: roll axis is dead-center!!thankujesus!!11. All cool so far except the compass on these devices is obviously garbage, off by 40 degrees.
Re: Think You You Have A Defective Note 2 Because of This? Think Again! ['Tips & Tric
So this problem is only on Grey Note 2's?
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I've seen over a dozen Note 2's and 'Grey appears is most affected." However, it is difficult to confirm because very few stores have the White Note 2 on display in my area. One store did have '2' White Note 2's for demonstration pieces, and I felt they were manufactured through better quality standards than the Grey Note 2.
However, the White Note 2's do indeed have the gap on top of the unit (very noticeable), and I felt like the White units heat up quite fast compared to Grey. The home button on the White Note 2 is not that recessed (feels quite elevated) compared to the Grey Note 2. The light on the capacitive buttons on the White Note 2 bleed very noticeable compared to the Grey.
Many have spotted small gaps between the bezel and the glass of the display. I have cross-checked with over '12' Note 2 pieces across several stores, and they all have this gap in various areas, (i.e. top of the unit, bottom of the unit, and near the power / volume controls).
Secondly, although I could not find this on my T-Mobile Note 2 (I even used a magnifying glass to confirm), some of you may have noticed that the bezel is NOT 100% molded. If you inspect closely, you will notice a joint at which it appears your bezel is cracked, but is not. You might find this disappointing, but according to Samsung standards, the joint appearance is completely normal. Some joints (meeting of both sides of the bezel) will be very prominent, and some will not (in the case of mine).
Unfortunately, Samsung does not have consistent quality control with their devices, and you will definitely spot manufacturing variations, but don't be alarmed.
You should really consider these variations as consistent according to Samsung's quality control.
I wanted to also mention, that I did come across one dummy unit today (Grey), and was surprised to see the same chrome-finish problems like the actual units. If you angle the bezel a bit, you will see the chrome finish vary a bit in different areas as a result of variations in the paint-finish.
You can scratch the bezel and paint will chip off, quite easily (Similar to Apple's iPhone 5 aluminum coating). However, keep in mind, the material used on the Note 2's bezel is different to some degree.
Now before I go on to explain what I dislike about the Note 3... I will say I do like the device. It's powerful, a great size, awesome specs and some other things.
Though if I had of known about the following negatives, I may have taken other devices a little more into consideration when choosing what I wanted to buy.
I payed full price for the device and really it comes down to the build quality just being really terrible for a $800 premium device. The build cost for Samsung is $232.50 according to online articles... I think they have a little wiggly room to have added a little more quality.
So here is what I view as downsides:
1. The home button wiggles. I can make the home button crooked by pressing/sliding the button a certain way. It does happen on accident at times. This isnt just something I have personally experienced, this issue has been widely reported all over the place.
2. It's all plastic. You can try to make plastic look like something else, but it's still just plastic. Though it does look beautiful to the naked eye.
3. I find my device getting overly dirty and myself cleaning it a lot. Finger prints all over the screen, sides and back. Though, I have a case which protect the sides and back from this. My Note 3 is Black, I notice little hairs, or dust being able to get in between the screen and outer ridge around the phone. This is another wide issue with the black version. I have also seen a little hair on occasion sticking out around the glass of the back camera area at times as well.
4. The camera seems to stick out a little far... so that when resting the device on its back you're resting on the camera, unless you have a case to prevent this.
5. Knox warranty void.
6. The sim/SD cards are difficult to remove. Spring load removal... why did they decide to change this?
7. How terrible Samsung is at providing software updates. As has been mentioned, people need to wait usually 6-12 months for an update to a Samsung device and still end up being behind. Just another thing with Samsung shafting their customers. There is a Rumor is KitKat 4.4 might come within the next two months *fingers crossed*
That being said... I am happy with the smart phone as a whole. The beautiful screen, it's fast, and responsive. I'm happy with the hardware inside of it, removable battery, sdcard expansion.
The home button ? deal does irritate me ?
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Point 6 was so annoying when I had the note 3.
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The Location for power button and Volume button i wish they were Little On the bottom
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