Okay, so here are my needs for a phone:
-Able to handle lots of SMS, MMS, Google Talk and Facebook Messaging, at home and on the go
-Stream music in the background as I do everything I do on the phone
-Fluid Multitasking
-At least 12 hours of battery life with moderate use.
-Decent enough gaming to keep me entertained in waiting rooms
Does the HTC One V fall short in any of these categories? If so, which? Thanks in advance!!
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I'll try to answer those based on my recent experience with the one V:
I have had this phone for 24 hours now, most of that time was spent using CM10. I have switched from SGS3 (yes, really) to this. I am absolutely amazed by the battery life of this sucker. 95 to 22% with 4.5 screen on time. The brightness was fixed at 20% because that was more than enough for my indoor usage. Compared to SGS3, this should keep up for heavy messaging usage.
Multitasking is bit of a mixed bag. I am pretty sure you will not be impressed with multitasking south stock ROM with SENSE. At one point bouncing around apps, it took me little more than 10 seconds to load my text messages after the app itself was launched. That is unacceptable, especially when I had less than 50 text messages at the time. After switching up to CM10, the multitasking became much more fluid. Heavy apps like facebook reloads itself but going around twitter, tapatalk and text messaging was a breeze (less than one second during switch).
Streaming Google music is no problem for me.
With the past about battery life from before and the fact that my battery only drained by about 4% overnight, I would say that it should last an 12hours of moderate usage.
Couple things to note. Keyboard responsiveness is noticeably lower than SGS3 (both running 4.2 keyboard). The haptic feedback quality is also notable because the one v uses traditional vibration motor, meaning soft vibrations just doesn't get triggered.
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If u install a custom ROM yes it meets all the needs although heavy multitasking can be a problem
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cybervibin said:
If u install a custom ROM yes it meets all the needs although heavy multitasking can be a problem
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Wow! These posts really helped me out. Thanks!
Yes, I would definitely be on CM10 when I buy the phone.
Now I would like to ask:
What ROM does everyone use??
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I'll try to answer those based on my recent experience with the one V:
I have had this phone for 24 hours now, most of that time was spent using CM10. I have switched from SGS3 (yes, really) to this. I am absolutely amazed by the battery life of this sucker. 95 to 22% with 4.5 screen on time. The brightness was fixed at 20% because that was more than enough for my indoor usage. Compared to SGS3, this should keep up for heavy messaging usage.
Multitasking is bit of a mixed bag. I am pretty sure you will not be impressed with multitasking south stock ROM with SENSE. At one point bouncing around apps, it took me little more than 10 seconds to load my text messages after the app itself was launched. That is unacceptable, especially when I had less than 50 text messages at the time. After switching up to CM10, the multitasking became much more fluid. Heavy apps like facebook reloads itself but going around twitter, tapatalk and text messaging was a breeze (less than one second during switch).
Streaming Google music is no problem for me.
With the past about battery life from before and the fact that my battery only drained by about 4% overnight, I would say that it should last an 12hours of moderate usage.
Couple things to note. Keyboard responsiveness is noticeably lower than SGS3 (both running 4.2 keyboard). The haptic feedback quality is also notable because the one v uses traditional vibration motor, meaning soft vibrations just doesn't get triggered.
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I would say, that all your needs are being covered, even with the stock ROM. I would recommend a Sense based ROM, and judging by your feature-wishes, staying with the stock may be the most stable/best option. Sense is extremly well integrated and comes with a lot of apps, that you otherwise must purchase/download. I find it a very satisfying experience (though, all I can compare it to is the Galaxy S3, which suxx if judged by the apps, Samsung offers).
Extreme multitasking, however, is relative. What is extreme? Remember, that you got 512MB of RAM only. And this is very small. But it's enough to have running some apps, and maybe the one or other game at once. If you play a game, that is heavy on resources, than the launcher will be temporarily disables, but it comes back quick, at least on stock.
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I would say, that all your needs are being covered, even with the stock ROM. I would recommend a Sense based ROM, and judging by your feature-wishes, staying with the stock may be the most stable/best option. Sense is extremly well integrated and comes with a lot of apps, that you otherwise must purchase/download. I find it a very satisfying experience (though, all I can compare it to is the Galaxy S3, which suxx if judged by the apps, Samsung offers).
Extreme multitasking, however, is relative. What is extreme? Remember, that you got 512MB of RAM only. And this is very small. But it's enough to have running some apps, and maybe the one or other game at once. If you play a game, that is heavy on resources, than the launcher will be temporarily disables, but it comes back quick, at least on stock.
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Sorry, I was unclear.
By "multitasking" I meant streaming Pandora while switching between text messaging and games (such as Angry Birds). Or quickly needing to Google something somewhere in between there.
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Sorry, I was unclear.
By "multitasking" I meant streaming Pandora while switching between text messaging and games (such as Angry Birds). Or quickly needing to Google something somewhere in between there.
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There is a heavy multitasking and normal
When the game uses a lot of ram and u switch it may restart
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This phone on stock rom does not perform well AT ALL during multitasking. Going to home and then loading messages is a pain..... App loads but it's blank till 5 seconds later
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Yeah....you have to try a Rom which speed up the phone a lot......there are lots of roms in the dev section just try em and see which one is good for you ....
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Sorry, I was unclear.
By "multitasking" I meant streaming Pandora while switching between text messaging and games (such as Angry Birds). Or quickly needing to Google something somewhere in between there.
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Hmmm, I don't use Pandora (EU), so I can't say, but it seems to me, that playing a game (which has sound) and listening to Pandora at the same time (it has sound, too) may be a bit counter productive. But since a streaming radio does not need much power, it won't interfere with the rest of your system. Text messaging is also easy games. Not much processing power needed here. In combination with a streaming audio client I see no problem.
Gaming, however, is -> always <- another world. It's where consumer PCs start to cost a lot of money and the same is true for mobiles. For games you can never have enough graphic power, cpu power, disk speed and RAM. Now obviously we're talking about a different kind of breed of games and a relativley small screen size on the One V, but if you want to play high end 3D games, you may experience the one or other slow downs. Oh, and such games just will just throw out all other games from memory. For example, there is a 3D space exploration / dog fight game names "Dangerous": forget about it Also for many games control is pretty ugly on a mobile device, at least as long you don't have a dedicated game pad.
But the typical mobile games, like Angry Birds, different kinds of console emulators, puzzles, 2D (or light 3D) action does not pose a problem. Multitasking, however, is the first thing you lose when playing any game, they want a lot of RAM.
All in all, the One V may well suit you. My personal grief with it is the lack of a compass, some other sensors would have been nice and the screen is a tad too small (though I prefer mobiles, that you can handle single handedly). And, the most obvious problem is, that RAM is a bit on the low side. An Android device should at least have 768MB, IMO, better 1GB, and a 2GB of flash disk. But besides that, you get an aluminium case, that fits into your jeans pocket, does not crack if you sit on it, has a very nice UI, is easy to use, has an sdcard slot, has a screen, that is above the average in image quality (sharp, no pixeliziation, good to read) , and is, overall, a sympathic little friend, that gets all of the jobs done (except magnetometer/compass and some other sensors, which I would have liked)
I also listen to internet radio. There are many rock-stable custom roms to choose from. Especially if gou want to play an high end game.
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After flashing, re flashing and re re flashing so many times.... now atleast i have gone bored of the HTC Desire. This is mainly because there are not many good quality apps specially games. I am no Apple fanboy but the app store is something that android doesnt looks like achieving pretty soon.
The main things i like in HTC Desire are as following:-
1) Wifi Hotspot. WOW! thats so cool
2) being able to customize it as u want it to with widgets.
3) FRIENDSTREAM WIDGET its simply awesome
4) weather animations
Thats all.
The major things i dont like are:-
1) Camera. its just ok, not that good.
2) battery.... it drains battery as if its hungry all the time
3) no good games/apps
So what do you have to say? Are you still happy with the Desire or are you planning to go with something else?
As far as i am concerned i have decided to sell it very soon.... but wifi hotspot feature is what i love the most.
If you want to play games get a DS
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Angry Birds, Doodle Jump, Abducted, Alchemy... they are the best games I've installed on my phone
Kept me busy for a good while!
On top of that there's all the emulators - now they aren't so hot for action (but probably better with wiimote add in) games, but for some others they work just fine!
I love my Desire - before that I had the WM HTC Touch HD, now that has a serious lack of games... the best I found was solitaire or ScummVM...
I have to agree, there are not so many really good games in the market right now. But I'm sure this will change. Many surveys etc. suggest more and more developers of mobile application and games are considering developing for android, and seeing as the number of android phones rises continually I think the growing market will attract more and more developers. So I guess you just have to hang in there untill then
Yes I agree there are few game the ones u listed. But they completed and then what after that? Same boring things. When will we have more stuff. Android platform is awesome but.....
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If you want to play games get a DS
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We take a multimedia phone so that we have everything in it. Isn't it?
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deepakoffline said:
We take a multimedia phone so that we have everything in it. Isn't it?
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good point, but as you said its a multimedia phone, emphasis being on a phone, you say there are no good games but what are you comparing this too? a ds? a psp? these are dedicated gaming machines and therefore will always have the upper hand, as other mobile platforms go the games on android are quite good, just check out the gameloft HD series and others like NFS Shift
Rooting and installing a custom ROM is the answer, that is what makes the desires one of the best PDA's on the market nowadays even better than the iPhone I would say.
I have been an iPhone user for the last 2 years I just love how many more things I can do with my desire.
And if the battery issue is a problem try custom kernels, they work great
have tried custom roms... almost all good ones. but the battery problem still persists. actually by reading at various sites like engadget i came to know that the battery drain problem is actually of android os itself. hmmmm....
I was happy until the random reboots started and I cannot send it to service so I am stuck at using it as rare as possible since every time I use it to much it reboots and then gets stuck at the white HTC screen and I have to reinstall the ROM to be able to boot again.
I like(d) it alot, and am thinking of getting another Desire. Or getting a completely different company device. Still confused
Battery drain is not a problem at all. Just compare to other os and you'll see that the situation is better on Android os due to custom kernels and cpu dynamic speed adjusting.
I agree with the battery drain issue, and the touch feeling of screen is not better than IP4
lots of nice games on android you just need to know how to hunt them
with froyo the touch responsiveness is equal to the iphone 4, SLCD desire is pretty close to IP4 screen quality too, a little less density but better colors, the IP4 screen is also much closer to the surface which is nice but ours is a little bigger
my fav game is asphalt 5 but i keep loosing my save game due to messing with my rom
another very impressive game i'm hooked at is panzer panic
also minisquadron, hyperjump, meteor blitz, heavy gunner, backbreaker, need for speed shift and hero of sparta all very impressive
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have tried custom roms... almost all good ones. but the battery problem still persists. actually by reading at various sites like engadget i came to know that the battery drain problem is actually of android os itself. hmmmm....
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I am atm using Deforst with 1113 HAVS kernel and setin SetCpu to 1113 MHZ and I can tell you my battery life is much much better than when running stock froyo
one more thing i'm taking great pictures with the default camera app, you just need to know how to handle it's settings, for example i set sharpness to -2 which removes all the digital treatment ie over sharpness, also set colors and brightness + 1 and of course choosing correcting ISO at night
people are often just blindly impressed by the iphone 4 pics but compare them side by side and you will notice horrible performance at night from the iphone 4 and horrible of noise even at indoor daylight, even the colors produced by the iphone 4 camera are unreal
only two wins for the iphone 4 cam for me, the flawless 720p and HDR
If you really want them in a phone buy and iPhone 4 and jailbreak it for the WiFi hotspot?
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ste1164 said:
If you really want them in a phone buy and iPhone 4 and jailbreak it for the WiFi hotspot?
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did i read it for real or am i dreaming!!! wifi hotspot can be achieved in the iphone!! thats cool does it works with 3gs too?
ahhhh but then there is no bluetooth. iBluetooth... i used it when i had 3g... but thats no good at all.
desire is still good. but just now had a look at winphone 7 devices. awesomeness redefined
i am a fairly heavy user and get 2 days worth of battery out of mine, if i dont use wifi i am on 3 days. The iphone4 is just as hungry when it comes to battery
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i am a fairly heavy user and get 2 days worth of battery out of mine, if i dont use wifi i am on 3 days. The iphone4 is just as hungry when it comes to battery
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oh REALLY!!!! i dont get more than 1 day... even i have to charge 2-3 times a day. well... very soon, maybe, i will get a new phone. maybe windows phone 7. but it has lots of limitations just like iphone....
lets see.... what happens
Hey guys, I'm currently using a Nokia N900 and thinking of changing to the Desire Z.
I was wondering how's the battery life on it? I've heard good things about it, that it lasts for quite a decent amount of time. But can someone give me a figure? I'm looking for just normal use such as txting and making phone calls, and occasionally WIFI browsing. I don't use my phone for gaming or music, just running typical apps and all those stuff i mentioned above.
The 2nd is, how are the custom roms development and support for this phone?? I searched around and couldn't find much, or at least decent ones. I'm looking for ROMS that are as good as the equivalent of the Energy ROM for the Windows Mobile devices. Before I stopped using my HTC Touch Pro, I used to be very active on this forum and can find tons of custom ROMS for Windows Mobile devices easily, but i'm not sure about Android though......there doesn't seem to be much.
Oh and it seems there are very little differences between G2 and Desire Z. Both are under the "HTC Vision" category and yes I've already read the topics and did the search on this. I was wondering which one is better overall in terms of performance? It seems the G2 has more ROM or something (can't remember), like 4GB as oppose to Desire Z's 1.5GB....but i'm not sure how that'll affect the performance.
I don't care about the FM radio either so maybe i should go for a G2 instead?
It pretty much comes down to sense or stock android. the roms are generally compatible with both phones.
the battery life is actually much better than i expected coming from a nexus one, htc desire and htc hd2. you should have no problem lasting the day.
I went for the DZ and am very happy with it, the battery life is excellent even with quite a few widgets, a constant live wallpaper running too.
I do need to charge it every night but at work it's using wifi all the time even when asleep and so far i've sent about 20 txt's today, and spoken on the phone for an hour and it's been off it's charger for 8 hours and i'm on 75% battery left.
Reason i haven't put any other ROM's on it yet is because i don't see a need for it yet, my G1 got to CM6 as i wanted stuff that was above android 1.6 but currently the DZ on 2.2 with Sense is working well for me. If i put another Rom on i'd lose my Locations app which i use a lot, free GPS with maps of the world! And some other great Sense things like the selecting text and copy/paste feature which gingerbread mimics. the free tracking and online backup to HTCSense.com too is very useful.
I had 1gb on internal left after the OS is installed and i've still got about 890mb left of that, it shipped with an 8gb microSD card and that's only got about 2gb of stuff on it (locations maps, some music and app backup). Since 2.2 does install apps to the SD card the extra space isn't that vital.
quadrant scores are 1550 - 1580 depending on what it feels like doing lol, which is literally only a few digits below the G2 stock so Sense is hardly using any brain power.
Lag - what lag? i've yet to see it or wait for anything on the phone - it flies.
Scenes, Skins and HTC Hub are just a few more things that customise the device for new users, i'm a veteran but i like what they've done and it makes my friend who just got the Desire HD (and she's an android virgin) so happy and easy for her to use it since Android gets critized for being to hard to use...?! I don't see it
Hope this helps
Crytos said:
I went for the DZ and am very happy with it, the battery life is excellent even with quite a few widgets, a constant live wallpaper running too.
I do need to charge it every night but at work it's using wifi all the time even when asleep and so far i've sent about 20 txt's today, and spoken on the phone for an hour and it's been off it's charger for 8 hours and i'm on 75% battery left.
Reason i haven't put any other ROM's on it yet is because i don't see a need for it yet, my G1 got to CM6 as i wanted stuff that was above android 1.6 but currently the DZ on 2.2 with Sense is working well for me. If i put another Rom on i'd lose my Locations app which i use a lot, free GPS with maps of the world! And some other great Sense things like the selecting text and copy/paste feature which gingerbread mimics. the free tracking and online backup to HTCSense.com too is very useful.
I had 1gb on internal left after the OS is installed and i've still got about 890mb left of that, it shipped with an 8gb microSD card and that's only got about 2gb of stuff on it (locations maps, some music and app backup). Since 2.2 does install apps to the SD card the extra space isn't that vital.
quadrant scores are 1550 - 1580 depending on what it feels like doing lol, which is literally only a few digits below the G2 stock so Sense is hardly using any brain power.
Lag - what lag? i've yet to see it or wait for anything on the phone - it flies.
Scenes, Skins and HTC Hub are just a few more things that customise the device for new users, i'm a veteran but i like what they've done and it makes my friend who just got the Desire HD (and she's an android virgin) so happy and easy for her to use it since Android gets critized for being to hard to use...?! I don't see it
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thanks for the reply and I see you're a fellow New Zealander!
Did you buy it on Trademe? How much did you pay for? There's one on Trademe for $800 but that's a G2, otherwise the Desire Z is $849 including free shipping and free accessories.......i'm trying to hold it off until it goes down to $700 though
anyway, i was looking for statistics like how long it lasts after a full charge?? My Nokia N900 on standby lasts about 5 days, if i use it for heavy txt or internet browsing (using wifi) then I can use it for maybe 2 days, until the battery drains completely.
If the Desire Z only lasts 2 days, that's still pretty crap to me.........i'm looking for phones that don't drain as crazy coz that's one of the thing that pisses me off
I came from the Touch Pro 2 with EnergyROM too. But the big difference for me there is that the stock TP2 ROM is absolute garbage, and EnergyROM made it much better. So a custom ROM was much more necessary with WinMo.
I find that my stock DZ ROM is fantastic, it is really smooth and fast. I'm sure I could get even more cool stuff if I upgraded to a custom ROM but right now I'm staying with stock. Cyanogen seems to be by far the most popular custom ROM for the Vision (G2/DZ), though it doesn't include the HTC Sense features that the DZ stock ROM has (stock G2 doesn't have Sense).
By the way, the memory is identical on the G2 and DZ, they're the same phone just with different radio bands. T-Mobile advertised it as having 4 GB but in fact, just like the DZ, the internal storage is setup in the factory to only present 2.2 GB to the ROM (full explanation in the Wiki as to why this is). So performance is identical on the G2/DZ - same CPU, same memory, etc, etc.
I have a G2 and I am a heavy user. On average, I download 1-5 things a day, be it market or otherwise, 150-200 text messages, less than 20 minutes talk time, constant running live wall paper, facebook widget, foursquare widget, weather and time beautiful widget, battery widget, music widget, feedr news widget (all these widgets get used daily), plus a Yahoo! mail app I use daily and I can almost always make it through a full day of use. There are those days when I send more texts or download more things or browse the web more often if there's a lot of good articles on feedr and I might need to charge before the end of the day, but thus far it has the best battery life of any Android phone I've ever used. I typically wake up around 2 or 3pm and go to bed around 6 or 7am, so 13-14 hours of use and It's usually at about 10% when I plug it in.
I do not run any task killers, stock ROM, unrooted. I charge every night and start every day with 100% charged. This is, by far, the best phone I've ever owned period. It's highly recommended. Hope this helps.
Its reasonable.
If you use Bluetooth (music stream) extensively & connect to a WIFI network, you might be in the yellow fairly quick.
Its NO BlackBerry (battery wise), but then again you get so many options and features that it blows the BB out of the water.
I've read about lag issues on this forum, but I wasn't sure if it meant the same thing as I am experiencing. For me, no matter what ROM or Kernel, although it is better with Bullet on lagfree or performance, I get micro-stuttering (hiccuping in otherwise perfectly smooth motion) almost contstantly, but kind of in intervals.
It happens while scrolling, it happens during games, it happens no matter which home replacement I use. I don't think its a GPU performance issue because I've had a couple phones less powerful than this one that didn't do this. Is this the way everyone's phone is, or did I just get a defective one?
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I've read about lag issues on this forum, but I wasn't sure if it meant the same thing as I am experiencing. For me, no matter what ROM or Kernel, although it is better with Bullet on lagfree or performance, I get micro-stuttering (hiccuping in otherwise perfectly smooth motion) almost contstantly, but kind of in intervals.
It happens while scrolling, it happens during games, it happens no matter which home replacement I use. I don't think its a GPU performance issue because I've had a couple phones less powerful than this one that didn't do this. Is this the way everyone's phone is, or did I just get a defective one?
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Yeah Mine Does This As Well Try V6 Supercharger Mod It Helps Alot
I have the same thing...it seems like its a issue with 2d graphics
I wonder why that is... it's not like the Adreno in our phones has less 2d performance than the Tegra or the SGX540 @ 200 Mhz. Hopefully we can get an update to fix this.
it would help if people complaining about this micro lag can show a video of what is happening, as it games and apps runs smooth like butter in my phone
check there aren't too many unnecessary left over apps hanging in the background, make sure when you exit an app, it's actually exited, quit
simply closing or changing to another screen / app will leave the other apps running in the background
that's the only times i get those micro lags
this phone runs sooooo smooth, even with multiple apps running simultaneously, even under heavy file access
in my old Nexus S it would have halted the phone until the file copy process finished, before i can even run a game while waiting for the copy to finish
only under those situations i get micro lags, otherwise this phone is incredibly smooth when there's nothing else running in the background
I don't really have a way to capture it on video or I would. For me, it happens to the same extent whether I have no apps open or a ton. It seems like either some people are more sensitive to it, or some people got bad phones like with the blobs.
I suppose I might be experiencing "micro stuttering" but only if I really pay attention. Yeah, this phone is smooth like butter. Then again, i'm coming from an Eris. I experience no lag though. Everything is smooth. now i'm running bomba-deery-air or whatever it's called with the jugs kernal so I could OC it to 1.8 but it was already fast. I was just being greedy. Just putting my experience out there. Have had the phone for a couple weeks now.
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Okay, I just started experiencing real lag, albeit momentary lag, not like any lag I've experienced on any windows machine or device I've ever used, while downloading a couple torrents in the background. But considering we've only got a gig of ram that's not a bad right? I'm still not complaining. Phone still kicks [email protected]%! As far as I'm concerned.
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i experience skipping or micro stutter on home screen .
If you take your finger and slide to right or left like your scrolling to next home screen. first start very very slow. then speed up a tad then try fast ..
you will see skipping or stuttering of the icons at medium scroll speed.
i dont have a camera to photograph it.
the att galaxy s2 doesnt do this. its like a ghosting like gaming on a 5 ms led monitor a 2ms moniter reduces it.
guys i have this problem too, then i start playing with the voltage and now i'm getting to the point where its completely gone. Undervolt is generally good but some phone use more voltage than other.
also using system tuner pro mess around with the memory a little, under "visible application" i see twlauncher is there, i increase it to 24mb and it seems to help.. again i'm not 100% sure if these are the two thing that cause it but it helps alot and i also have live wallpaper too and now my stuff is running smooth.
This problem only happens when you try to use a 3rd party launcher, if you are using the stock touchwiz launcher, you will say, "these people are stupid and have no idea what they are talking about, my phones smooth as butter" this is really unfortunate because I love using ADW Launcher EX, but just use the stock launcher until ice cream sandwich comes out. I don't notice these micro studders at all anywhere else throughout the phone, this phone is bomb and anyone who says otherwise is clueless. I have the white one and love it. Its beautiful. Just can't wait for samsung to fix this lil problem in 3rd party launchers.
If you are talking about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1414929
flash a skyrocket rom, itll be waaaay better, i promise
I'm using ADW and experiencing no stuttering, micro or otherwise.
I've tried adw, ics, and go launcher ex. All of them suffer from the same problems on the more popular roms, although adw is the least problematic. I don't have this problem anymore since I installed domination rom 2.0. Games, apps, scrolling... no more stuttering... it's as smooth as an iPhone 4s unless the launcher rebooted... and even then it's only a few seconds till it's back to it's creamy state of tranquility
My SGSII HercuDom needs more w00t. It always needs more w00t!
Most people are blind to it. As a user of all platforms I can tell you there is significant stuttering on my SGS2 with any ROM.
So I can flash skyrocket roms and kernels?
I just wanna double check before I go flashing something lol. I wanna see if I can notice a difference.
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So I can flash skyrocket roms and kernels?
I just wanna double check before I go flashing something lol. I wanna see if I can notice a difference.
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I have had my HTC One for about 5 days now. I love most everything about the phone. The one thing that is driving me nuts is the lag/stuttering/choppy scrolling in 3rd party apps. Apps like Plume, Facebook, and google+ are the worst. Facebook is almost unbearable. Is anyone else experiencing this? Is there any way to fix it? I am seriously debating on taking this thing back. I hated the tiny screen on my iPhone but the scrolling was so smooth on that phone. Maybe I was just spoiled. But maybe I just got a bad device. Anyone else?
I have experienced no lag on this device. Bought it on launch day.
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Is it possible that one device would perform better than another? The sense launcher and all the sense apps scroll and transition really smoothly but as soon as I get in another app its lag city. I have noticed that the stock twitter app scrolls smoothly but if I use something like Plume or echofon I get lagging and stuttering. I am so frustrated.
So I ended up taking the phone back and getting it replaced by another one. Unfortunately it is exactly the same. I am really confused. I must pay way to much attention to the smoothness of my scrolling. So does no one experience any type of lag or choppiness in the facebook app or in twitter apps like Plume or seesmic? I'm just wondering if I am doing something that is causing the lag.
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So I ended up taking the phone back and getting it replaced by another one. Unfortunately it is exactly the same. I am really confused. I must pay way to much attention to the smoothness of my scrolling. So does no one experience any type of lag or choppiness in the facebook app or in twitter apps like Plume or seesmic? I'm just wondering if I am doing something that is causing the lag.
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I've had mine for a week and I see virtually no lag in any apps. I'm very pleased with the performance.
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So I ended up taking the phone back and getting it replaced by another one. Unfortunately it is exactly the same. I am really confused. I must pay way to much attention to the smoothness of my scrolling. So does no one experience any type of lag or choppiness in the facebook app or in twitter apps like Plume or seesmic? I'm just wondering if I am doing something that is causing the lag.
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facebook scrolling is tough on any device...
It's loading all of that stuff in the background. Mine is 'choppy' as well but its not lagging. It responds immediately to any touch input, but the news feed hits a few snags when I try and go through it really fast.
Maybe what I am referring to lag isn't lag so much. Its just choppy like you described. It would seem that it is then more of a loading issue than a performance issue maybe. May just be something I need to get used to. I am struggling with the thought of going back to a 4 inch iphone screen.
What you are experiencing is normal. Call it lag, call it choppy, ect. Some people notice it like you and me, some people don't notice it. A lot of Apps for android have not been optimized to run on the new snapdragon 600 processors. Could be because they want the minimum requirements on these to be so low that Joe Blow with his LG Optimus DYNAMIC AT 500mhz can at least play Jetpack Joyride, while we HTC One owners see lag every three seconds. It you want everything to be buttery smooth, buy a Windows Phone 8. They optimize all there apps and have requirements met by each device. Same with Apple. But WP8 has no apps and Apple lacks customization. So I'll take my HTC One with a laggy Facebook and Jetpack Joyride and hope they optimized a new version of them for the new processors that are being released.
Perhaps everything else is so fast on the phone that you are perceiving "normal" as "laggy"
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deep man.... deep....
Yeah, if you came from an iPhone which in terms of smoothness is pretty damn smooth in just about everything, then the little skips and stutters in Android will annoy you for a while.
It happened to me a couple years ago when I switched but it was much worse since the phones were so much slower. But the openness of Android and it's roms as well as the community made me stay. Now a days there really isn't to much of a difference on Android phones in terms of smoothness, or at least the gap has closed a bit.
You got to hand it to Apple though, they make their phones feel faster than they really are lol
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think you should give bad reviews in the playstore for apps that are "laggy" for you.
Its the devs not optimizing code or trying to do too much at once that cause it.
Like the Menu button black bar. That has been around for what, 2 years, and its because devs refuse to update their apps to the newest android code.
Swype specifically is brutal for me ... sometimes upward of a two second lag for the keyboard to pop up.
I realize this is a big time first world problem.
Yeah I really think it does boil down to poorly written apps. I have tried almost every twitter app on the market and they all scroll kind if rough to me, but settled on the stock one for now. It actually scrolls pretty good. So it can be done. I wonder why that seems to be more of an exception than a rule.
Another thing I noticed it that it may have something to do with how android scrolls vs ios. Ios scrolls much slower but I think that allows for the choppiness from images loading to not seem as choppy. If i do a quick swipe up with my finger on android that thing cruises where in ios it scrolls a quarter of the way down. I think I'm going to just try and get used to it. I really like the phone overall.
I haven't experienced any lag whatsoever. The phone is pretty snappy. What is your memory usage average when you go into manage apps? Is something eating up a lot of memory?
The only other thing I could suggest is rebooting into stock recovery and wiping the cache.
Like others have said, it boils down to 3rd party app optimization. It's really unfortunate that a lot of apps don't take full advantage of quad core processors and I hope in the near future most of them do.
I don't have what I'd consider lag, but when scrolling in some 3rd party apps it is jittery.
I came from iPhone to HTC One as well and I was honestly expecting it to be just as smooth as the iPhone considering it has more power, but it, without a doubt, is not. The At&t One I had for work was jittery as well. I think it boils down to Apple makes the phone & software so it is more seemless where as one company makes android and another makes the phone and then modifies that software, so there's bound to be a tiny disconnect.
I still have my iPhone 5 but the jitter of the One is not enough for me to go back to a 4 inch screen everyday. When Apple decides to make a 4.7 - 5 inch iPhone, then we'll talk.
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think you should give bad reviews in the playstore for apps that are "laggy" for you.
Its the devs not optimizing code or trying to do too much at once that cause it.
Like the Menu button black bar. That has been around for what, 2 years, and its because devs refuse to update their apps to the newest android code.
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You can fix this by changing "long press home" to a menu button replacement.
Specifically go to settings hit "display gestures and buttons" and hit "home" you want the 2nd option "swipe up for Google now, press and hold for menu"
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I don't have what I'd consider lag...
I still have my iPhone 5 but the jitter of the One is not enough for me to go back to a 4 inch screen everyday. When Apple decides to make a 4.7 - 5 inch iPhone, then we'll talk.
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I agree. People ask why I didn't wait to see what the new iPhone was going to be like. And I told them it was pretty simple, actually... It was obvious the form factor wasnt changing.
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BaBnkr said:
You can fix this by changing "long press home" to a menu button replacement.
Specifically go to settings hit "display gestures and buttons" and hit "home" you want the 2nd option "swipe up for Google now, press and hold for menu"
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I agree. People ask why I didn't wait to see what the new iPhone was going to be like. And I told them it was pretty simple, actually... It was obvious the form factor wasnt changing.
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of course you can. That is called a work around because some devs are lazy and don't update their apps to the latest android framework...
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of course you can. That is called a work around because some devs are lazy and don't update their apps to the latest android framework...
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Orrr.. Some phones still have menu buttons?
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I am curious as to why there is very little dev's supporting the lg g3. The samsung on the other hand is being supported alot almost make me think i made a mistake getting the lg g3 but i do really like the phone. I guess i was spoiled before the lg because i had all htc phones and there was an unbelievable amount of support for the evos. so what do you guys think are we at the height of our support or will there be more devs picking this phone up?
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I am curious as to why there is very little dev's supporting the lg g3. The samsung on the other hand is being supported alot almost make me think i made a mistake getting the lg g3 but i do really like the phone. I guess i was spoiled before the lg because i had all htc phones and there was an unbelievable amount of support for the evos. so what do you guys think are we at the height of our support or will there be more devs picking this phone up?
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Yes, more people bought it, so there are more devs.
What exactly you want developed for G3?
Kernels? Nah, you can't jump higher than lg did. It's already optimised. You can, of course, add some GCC flags, change toolchain, etc etc etc... For a marginal improvement, at best. Well, you can add undervolting, some modules (ntfs, gamepads, etc), advanced sound control... What else?..
Roms? Well, developing "only for G3!" roms isn't the best idea. Besides, some popular AOSP roms are already ported to g3, ones that haven't been ported don't even have stable 5.0 builds yet. Modding stock rom is almost impossible right now, apktool doesn't fully support neither 5.0, neither lg's special apk's (two apk's with id of 127 sharing resources? LG-way, lol.), so good custom roms aren't even possible yet.
And no, we won't get more support. If you want tons of support - buy Samsung.
I didnt get that too comming from nexus 5 i was expection great dev support for G3 as i consider it the best smartphone specially compare to Lagsung devices...but most of android users see only benchmarks so they go and buy that plastic piece of awfulness....but G3 has a great support..its better to have little and good rather than have 30 same kernels like it was on N5 community...the only thing i can't get is why at least CM isn't official supported!!
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I didnt get that too comming from nexus 5 i was expection great dev support for G3 as i consider it the best smartphone specially compare to Lagsung devices...but most of android users see only benchmarks so they go and buy that plastic piece of awfulness....but G3 has a great support..its better to have little and good rather than have 30 same kernels like it was on N5 community...the only thing i can't get is why at least CM isn't official supported!!
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i agree with both of the posts here and to really answer the first question, there is nothing that i specifically want developed i just was kinda confused as to why the forums are not filled with roms and kernals but you made a good point about saying quality over quantity.. I do really enjoy this phone and consider it the top of the line right now but we will see......
Honestly we have a fair amount of roms at this stage and it will only get better and better but as far as kernels goes I'd wish to see some more with overclocking/undervolting/profiles features in them ..
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Ive had the phone for a month or so now and while the design specs etc are top notch
The performance is not
I find it to be slow and laggy especially the stock messaging app (i know i can use an alternative)
I have the 16gb version and it always seems to be using 88-90% ram at all times with very minimal apps in use
Cant see it being the fact i have the 2gb ram version as previous phones with 2gb ram have performed much better.
Considering getting rid for anther device
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Agree fully, had my g3 for just over a week. Bought it from amazon so I have a month to decide.
Phone is terrible for lag, battery usage is woeful.
Perhaps my expectations were too high.
Won't go back to Samsung. Knox has ruined that.
The Moto G Play looks fantastic but no European release.
HTC is speculated to have fantastic new models.
Think the G3 might find itself replaced in the New Year
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Agree fully, had my g3 for just over a week. Bought it from amazon so I have a month to decide.
Phone is terrible for lag, battery usage is woeful.
Perhaps my expectations were too high.
Won't go back to Samsung. Knox has ruined that.
The Moto G Play looks fantastic but no European release.
HTC is speculated to have fantastic new models.
Think the G3 might find itself replaced in the New Year
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Been offered a straight trade for HTC one M8 might take them up on it
As a person coming from Samsung S2, S3, Note 3, I can say that Lg is doing a great job with the G2/G3 stock software! Way better than Samsung! Yes you'll find fingerprint features and some other useless bells and whistles, but LG software is solid, almost lag free, and battery life is king!
During my lifetime with Samsung, I spent most of my time cheating its software with Cyanogenmod.
So, would I be sad to not have the same amount of support on S5? Definitely no! I think what we have is valuable and I haven't felt yet that I need to run away to CM11/12.
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Ive had the phone for a month or so now and while the design specs etc are top notch
The performance is not
I find it to be slow and laggy especially the stock messaging app (i know i can use an alternative)
I have the 16gb version and it always seems to be using 88-90% ram at all times with very minimal apps in use
Cant see it being the fact i have the 2gb ram version as previous phones with 2gb ram have performed much better.
Considering getting rid for anther device
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I guess my question with those who see terrible battery life, what is it exactly you expect? I always here "terrible battery life", or "laggy". But no one backs it up with examples.
So, for those that are seeing poor battery life, answer these questions:
What is "poor" in your mind? Please provide a measurement such as you expect x amount of hours.
Exactly what are you using your phone for? Are you playing games for hours, shooting and/or viewing HD videos? Listenting to music?
After x hours of usage, how much battery is left after use (and whatever you were doing)?
For those with lag, answer these questions:
How are defining lag? Where are you seeing it and how are you perceiving it?
What apps do you have installed and how many?
What is the amount of storage you have left?
I know some have stated they see lag in the UI such as when they open a drawer, or swipe between screens and such. I guess I've never noticed that before, so maybe they come from a different phone that responded better in their eyes. Things that can help are possibly reducing the animation, but a possible issue could be the screen size. This phone packs a lot more pixels in it than the S5, so I could see how rendering on a screen with a larger pixel density could cause this. However, for me, I don't really notice it, and even if it is there, it must not be a huge amount or else I'd notice it.
As for battery life, I don't know what people are expecting. I get at least a days (24 hours) worth. Now, granted I'm running Greenify which has helped me on other phones, so I'm sure that has a hand in it. However, there was a time I wasn't running Greenify at first with this phone and I remember having the phone charged at 100% when I went to bed, took it off the charger, left it on (I used it as an alarm clock plus as my on-call phone) and when I woke up 6+ hours later, it was STILL at 100%. Adding Greenify has helped to prevent apps from wake locking, but that's not the phone's fault. That's how some apps are written and that in and of itself can cause battery drain, but it's even worse if you out-right kill the app/service all the time.
I make and take phone calls (not all day, mind you), I send and receive texts (not every minute). I do play games (Game of War a lot) and that does drain the battery, but that's going to happen on any phone. I've listen to music on my phone, especially when driving to/from work and other errands. One time, I must have logged over 2 hours on Power Amp. I wanted to see how much it drained the battery, so I kept note of where the battery was at when I started listening and where it was when I stopped listening. Over a two hour total period of listening to music, the battery drained 2%. Not bad if you ask me.
I'm just curious because right now, with this phone, I'm getting better battery life than I did with my RAZR MAXX and my RAZR HD phones. This phone I could possibly go two days before charging. After about 36 hours, I'm at 40% battery, so I could probably go another 12 hours, but when I get to 40%, that's when I start charging back up again.
I'm not trying to dispute what people are saying. I'm just curious as to what people are expecting vs. what they are getting (or perceive as getting) from this phone. Again, most of the time, we get generic statements as "battery life sucks" or "it lags". Great. Please back that up with examples because otherwise, it's all in the eye of the beholder as to what great or sucky battery life is and/or what lag is.
Just to show, im currently at 60% after 21 hours of use. That's with phone calls, playing Game of War, texting, etc. I've attached the screenshot as well.
Just comparing to my Note 3, with stock FW but apex launcher.
Battery would last in excess of a day with quite heavy use, games Internet browsing etc. BT always on auto brightness.
Apps would also open instantly or as expected.
The G3 can has a battery life of less than 4hrs with little or no use. Consumes 18-19% in 7hrs overnight.
Finding myself charging the phone at every opportunity.
I know the Note 3 didn't come with qi, but the qi on the G3 is sooo picky. 1mm off and it doesn't charge.
Using stock launcher just pressing home, first the wallpaper loads followed by the icons then the widgets. No what would be called snappy.
And OMG does it get hot!!! For no reason at all. Not playing games, just emails and Web browsing.
So now I am left wondering if the phone is faulty.
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iBolski said:
I guess my question with those who see terrible battery life, what is it exactly you expect? I always here "terrible battery life", or "laggy". But no one backs it up with examples.
So, for those that are seeing poor battery life, answer these questions:
What is "poor" in your mind? Please provide a measurement such as you expect x amount of hours.
Exactly what are you using your phone for? Are you playing games for hours, shooting and/or viewing HD videos? Listenting to music?
After x hours of usage, how much battery is left after use (and whatever you were doing)?
For those with lag, answer these questions:
How are defining lag? Where are you seeing it and how are you perceiving it?
What apps do you have installed and how many?
What is the amount of storage you have left?
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I have both "issues".
"poor" is g3's screen-on time on 5.0 while browsing using 4g. 5-5:30 hours on latest firmwares isn't much. It was nearly 7 hours on 4.4.2... I always set brightness to 20% auto, lighting conditions are always same.
I use phone for browsing and listening to locally stored music via Bluetooth. No watching or shooting videos or playing games.
After 5 hours of 4g web browsing i am left with empty battery.
Lag:
I define lag as "animation stuttering". I am seeing it everywhere: Vkontakte, Google Play Store, while opening drawer, switching tasks, etc... It lags often, but not always.
I have 47 user apps installed, 0 additional system apps.
The only apps that keep background services or use alarms are: Aqua mail, LMT, SBH52 smart headset, Titanium backup.
There are 4 apps using GCM for push.
There are 6 accounts (Google, Shazam, Skype, VK, tutu.ru and one money app) at sync section.
And i have got 5.4 gb free out of 25 on intsd. Shouldn't slow down writing much.
A perfect setup, right? But it still lags on official firmware.
I would assume you aren't running anything like Greenify, etc. What it sounds like is there are a lot of wake locks going on. That's where Greenify comes in. I also turn off a lot of syncs as I don't need them. As you can see with my screenshot, 60% is where I was at after 21 hours so thus phone can definitely get good battery life. But, if you do a lot of stuff for hours, no phone can keep it's battery life for long. Also, with the quad hd screen this phone has, that is a big drain, but even then, I'm getting great battery life.
Another thing with going to 5.0, it's best to start fresh. Do a factory data reset and start from scratch. Going from 4.x to 5.0, especially with Lollipop, had a lot of changes underneath the hood. There are others getting better or the same battery life, but i also think it all depends on usage.
I dont know with other guys here.but i am very happy with the lg g3 forums
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I already dumped mine at a huge loss. I would say worst phone ever, but that goes to my first Android, the Moto Backflip. Thank goodness my other phone is a M8.
Battery is kinda the only area i don't really have a problem with the phone its not the best but its not the worst
As someone has previously said i also came from a note 3 which in performance blows the G3 out of the water snappy and quick with no lag and instant app openings
Greenify shouldn't be something you should need to do to get rid of lag on a quad core 2.5ghz device with 2GB of ram
Out of the box the thing uses 88% ram considering the actual ROM itself is like 1.6gb just HOW is that possible if the entire contents of the ROM was loaded it into RAM should still only use 76%
Its a high end high spec device extremely poorly calibrated i have an old galaxy S3 that out performs it
To say im bitterly disappointed with this device is an understatement
Only thing i'm having problems with is the fact that the ram is always overload. Used titanium to remove and freeze alot of stuff but still the ram usage is about 1.3 to 1.6gb.
This is on stock rom which is very good to me with no lag and everything an launcher needs.
Battery life from the G3 is very good, on my previous phone I was affraid to leave the house if the battery wasn't filled to 100% with the G3 i left yesterday at 62% and returned from work with still 46% (off course with no heavy use) while my data is always on.
Conclusion for me after a month of use, good value for the money.
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Battery is kinda the only area i don't really have a problem with the phone its not the best but its not the worst
As someone has previously said i also came from a note 3 which in performance blows the G3 out of the water snappy and quick with no lag and instant app openings
Greenify shouldn't be something you should need to do to get rid of lag on a quad core 2.5ghz device with 2GB of ram
Out of the box the thing uses 88% ram considering the actual ROM itself is like 1.6gb just HOW is that possible if the entire contents of the ROM was loaded it into RAM should still only use 76%
Its a high end high spec device extremely poorly calibrated i have an old galaxy S3 that out performs it
To say im bitterly disappointed with this device is an understatement
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Greenify isn't for lag. It's for battery life.
Again, each to his own. I think it all depends on the perception of the user and what they expect and what they've gotten in the past from other phones.
Form me, this phone blows the RAZR MAXX and RAZR HD out of the water, which is what I came from and I get great battery life (well over 36 hours) before I have to recharge. And even then, at 40%, I probably could go another 12 hours but I choose not to.
Just last night, before I went to bed, the phone was at 100%. When I woke up 6 hours later, it went down only 2%, so I had 98% battery left. I've since used it to check email, read the news, played about 45 minutes of Game of War and did some updates via Google Play and I'm at 90%. That's after 9 hours since I last charged. I'd say those are pretty darn good stats for me.
Again, mileage may vary from user to user and what they expect. And from the responses I'm seeing, that's what I'm gathering. Some are saying the phone is great, others say it's okay, and others say it's awful coming from another phone. So, that definitely shows that it's all in the eye of the beholder.
But I appreciate what everyone has posted. It does appear that some who didn't like this phone have been able to find a phone that works great for them. I always try to state why a phone works great "for me" because that's what it is. It's not necessarily going to work great for someone else, but I also don't want to steer someone towards this phone if it doesn't meet their needs, so I try to explain why and how it works for me as I'm the user of this phone, and everyone else might use it differently.
Ciao!
I don't get why a lot of people are complaining about lag and support and s*** like that.
You are getting lag probably because:
(A) You don't know how to use your phone.
(B) You picked up the 16GB model (which only has 2GB RAM
(C) You're not rooted (seriously, who doesn't root their phones nowadays)
When I got this phone, I didn't have it rooted for a month. Everything was smooth despite having a lot of apps installed. It only became a lag machine when I installed Facebook and its Messenger app.
Yes there are lags from time to time, but do iPhones not lag? Of course they do, all phones do. I don't see all you guys' point.
A good phone doesn't need any sort of custom ROM and kernel, etc etc. Mine has always been on Stock ROM and Kernel, minimal lag. iPhone-like smoothness, I must say (but plus good multitasking. iOS multitasking is s***) In fact, when I upgraded to Android 5.0, it got even better.
I have stayed stock most of the time but I always have Greenify installed, (but battery life was still great before rooting and installing Greenify)
You people are just picky.
Not sure why people are seeing 18%+ drop in battery overnight in standby mode. Must either have a lot of synching going on or a misbehaving app or two.
Me, when I'm at home, WiFi is turned on. I have minimal syncing (apps, calendar, google+, photos).
Here is a screenshot I took this morning. When I first woke up, I was down to 98% overnight (was at 100% when I went to bed at midnight and when I woke at 6:30 am, it dropped only 2%).
At the time I took this screenshot, I had already read the news, did some updates, checked emails, and played about 30 minutes of Game of War and I was down to 94%. That seems like good battery life to me.
Of course, if you really want to improve the battery life of this phone, maybe you can go to Amazon and get this upgrade for the G3:
http://www.amazon.com/Warranty-Zero...id=1411938311&sr=8-1&keywords=zerolemon+lg+g3
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