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Can someone port this?

Title says it all. I would donate for this. Its droid x 2.3.3 with new blur.
Heres a link
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...-5-596-release-thread-something-everyone.html

Dude I think you should've posted this in the general section but whatever. Ask Virus he's the best at porting roms from what I've seen

I'm already downloading it...shouldn't take too long

Vinchenzop said:
I'm already downloading it...shouldn't take too long
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Thank u sir. Remember if u get it done a donation will head ur way
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I find it funny that if a newbie posts something in the wrong section, a million "Senior Members" jump on him/her like crazy but you "Clark44" can do it and everyone's cool with it just because you say you're going to donate if someone ports yet ANOTHER rom you like....hahaha...I'm not going to sit here and try to police the forums but looks like there's a double standard here!

this is contributing to development not asking why my ___________ doesnt work or How to you ____________

rsmith675 said:
this is contributing to development not asking why my ___________ doesnt work or How to you ____________
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OK....Now I'm not trying to start anything here BUT what I got from what you said was that as long as you ask for a rom to be port over that is OK to post in the development section?
Now like I said before, I'm not trying to police this forum or any forum for that matter but I was just saying how I've seen there's a double standard for things like this. Last time I checked, rules are rules right? I'm not on here to gain any friends or make any enemies but I don't like how people jump on newbies for common mistakes but is cool if a so called senior member make mistakes......

mazdarider23 said:
I find it funny that if a newbie posts something in the wrong section, a million "Senior Members" jump on him/her like crazy but you "Clark44" can do it and everyone's cool with it just because you say you're going to donate if someone ports yet ANOTHER rom you like....hahaha...I'm not going to sit here and try to police the forums but looks like there's a double standard here!
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Clark44 also contributes to the forum instead of just leaching, plus he has an awesome avatar.
Although it does seem like anytime a new ROM for another phone gets released it gets posted here before it does in their own section.

Guys chill. Vinchen is going to see what he can do but most of the time we work together. I dont just ask for something and expect it to come out of no where at any time. I actually contribute so can this not be about me and become about the ROM??
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clark44 said:
Guys chill. Vinchen is going to see what he can do but most of the time we work together. I dont just ask for something and expect it to come out of no where at any time. I actually contribute so can this not be about me and become about the ROM??
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Is cool dude...I didn't mean to attack you or anything like that! I was just airing out what I see here in this forum lately and it just happen that you posted this and I saw no one jumped on you like they do on the newbies.
No hard feelings....I hope! AND yeah, I agree with you....let's get talking about the ROM.

mazdarider23 said:
I find it funny that if a newbie posts something in the wrong section, a million "Senior Members" jump on him/her like crazy but you "Clark44" can do it and everyone's cool with it just because you say you're going to donate if someone ports yet ANOTHER rom you like....hahaha...I'm not going to sit here and try to police the forums but looks like there's a double standard here!
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hmm porting = dev work

CheesyNutz said:
hmm porting = dev work
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Stay on topic lol
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Funny how good and good intentions can quickly go south!!!!
T.E.A.M.W.O.R.K.

Hmmmm!
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eVoKINGS said:
Hmmmm!
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Lol i see a port comin from our king
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eVoKINGS said:
Hmmmm!
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Have at it king, I took a quick stab and i think its the updater script that came with the rom...didn't seem to be flashing right...but its 4 am and I've got alot of work tomorrow, so...night everyone

Please be aware that porting is serious work! Will give it a shot no promises! Alot is envolved! Thanks
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This would be sweet ! My girlfriends got a Droid x and it would be funny to get her update before her LOL. I think it will be mostly hardware issue that the devs will have to face when porting this. It would be really cool to play with a blur phone LOL
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Vinchenzop said:
I'm already downloading it...shouldn't take too long
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+1 on that port I was checking it out I would like to see what this would be like on an Evo btw I'm on the Skyraider port this thing is amazing I usually don't run I ROM with no 4g but I love this ROM and I'm living without it.
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Just to clear things up, this isn't actually a Dev thread. It's a request, and therefore should not be in dev.
General - general technical discussion items, news, anything else that does not fit into the other fora categories.
Q&A (Questions and Answers) - all questions, irrespective of type, get posted in here whether they be theme related, accessory related, technical, etc.
Accessories - any items to do with components and/or accessories relating to your device.
Rom Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Themes & Apps - anything to do directly with the development of themes and/or applications. Nothing else goes in here.
MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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Android 4.0

Hi just seen a video of android 4.0 and it looks cool. Is there any ROM that has this?
Thanks

Did you check the development section for Desire?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355660
Everthing is working sweet except the camera.

Really? Is it possible to be THAT uninformed?

erklat said:
Really? Is it possible to be THAT uninformed?
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I see another thread that can use the same answer man.

erklat said:
Really? Is it possible to be THAT uninformed?
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This is xda, a place where stupidity goes beyond boundaries of reality.

Rotfl. Way to funny for words.

Thanks guys

theres a new 4.0.3 custom rom for desire, much smoother but still no camera
try it out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416641

I think the ignorant ones are those who are forgetting that we are all noobs and clueless at the beginning. Then they gain a little knowledge, and suddenly think they're better than everyone else. This attitude is RAMPANT on this board.
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There is a new ICS rom named Evervold with android 4.0.3 and Chaosz-X kernel with HW Acc very stable.

DamonZ28 said:
I think the ignorant ones are those who are forgetting that we are all noobs and clueless at the beginning. Then they gain a little knowledge, and suddenly think they're better than everyone else. This attitude is RAMPANT on this board.
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I agree. We are here to help each other no matter the level of experience.
Terepin, I am sure you'll feel a lot better if you start helping _everyone_.

@DamonZ28 and @sudkcoce:
I also agree on that, but the thread opener already has more than 100 posts. How does that fit?
on topic:
Tried the ROM in Sandvold's Thread some days ago. Working quite good so far, but needs a little more speed.

sudkcoce said:
I agree. We are here to help each other no matter the level of experience.
Terepin, I am sure you'll feel a lot better if you start helping _everyone_.
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It's not matter of level of experience, but level of stupidity. People who can't/won't/are lazy to use search and read, asking questions that were answered billions of times, asking for info that is available in sticky threads and posting "this rockz/I love you/can i have your autograph?" **** deserve to burn in BAN hell.
Users which actually do require help from senior members are only few. The rest is just lazy stupid little kids and ungrateful pigs, thinking that we are obligated to help them.
BULL****!
We already lost several great developers because of them and I'll fight them until my last breath, to slow down the process of turning this place into n00b swamp. 'Cause it's happening already, you mark my words on that.

Terepin said:
It's not matter of level of experience, but level of stupidity. People who can't/won't/are lazy to use search and read, asking questions that were answered billions of times, asking for info that is available in sticky threads and posting "this rockz/I love you/can i have your autograph?" **** deserve to burn in BAN hell.
Users which actually do require help from senior members are only few. The rest is just lazy stupid little kids and ungrateful pigs, thinking that we are obligated to help them.
BULL****!
We already lost several great developers because of them and I'll fight them until my last breath, to slow down the process of turning this place into n00b swamp. 'Cause it's happening already, you mark my words on that.
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Dude chill out man, we all start somewhere, some people have much more experience than others that doesn't make them "lazy stupid little kids and ungrateful pigs"
If you have a problem with people on the forums just leave them alone. i am in no way the most experienced guy here. i cant develop new ROMS/Apps/themes or anything to be honest. i just use what other people have made. i asked questions on how to flash a new rom when i joined the forums. i read the tutorials, does that make me a " lazy stupid little kid and an ungrateful pig"?

You read tutorials, yet you asked how to flash ROM?

Terepin said:
You read tutorials, yet you asked how to flash ROM?
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To be exact i messed something up and my phone was stuck in a bootloop while flashing a ROM. And guess what, someone helped me out and got it working for me! Isn't that amazing! The wonders of people HELPING others out
I get there are loads of tutorials out there, telling people exactly what to do and if something goes wrong what they should do, but if someone ask's for help, why not reply with a helpful answer rather than being a complete prick?

Edit: Ignore this. Mods delete this post.
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ronilzizou said:
To be exact i messed something up and my phone was stuck in a bootloop while flashing a ROM. And guess what, someone helped me out and got it working for me! Isn't that amazing! The wonders of people HELPING others out
I get there are loads of tutorials out there, telling people exactly what to do and if something goes wrong what they should do, but if someone ask's for help, why not reply with a helpful answer rather than being a complete prick?
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Because those tutorials exist purely for the purpose of answering FAQ, so newbies don't have to ask them all the time. And yet, they still do. There is a word for that, and that word is spamming.
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ICS
Now with camera - HERE

I think the biggest annoyance with this thread is that the OP is clearly aware of how to flash ROMs, and therefore I would assume where to find them. Therefore a very quick look at the dev forum would have shown them the ICS builds currently being developed - making this thread needless.
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[Q] Any Devs

Do we know any devs or people that are trying to unlock the Lt28at bootloader?
(dont want to be an ass...but i don't want to wait in vain )

424aca said:
Do we know any devs or people that are trying to unlock the Lt28at bootloader?
(dont want to be an ass...but i don't want to wait in vain )
Come out so we can support you guys as an incentive maybe XD
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how about you read the forums?

Yea really read man. The boot loader issue is in Sony's hands. I highly doubt any dev will get around it and the only server that will is offline. I have a feeling once ATT drops the device we will have a solution to this.

424aca said:
Do we know any devs or people that are trying to unlock the Lt28at bootloader?
(dont want to be an ass...but i don't want to wait in vain )
Come out so we can support you guys as an incentive maybe XD
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Stop being a jackass
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i dont understand why there is so much anger...
and explain to me how I am being a "jackass". Is asking a question like this considered being a "jackass"
Did i hurt someones feelings?
A "yes or no" would have sufficed. ZackSpeed's answer was the closest to what I was looking for.

424aca said:
i dont understand why there is so much anger...
and explain to me how I am being a "jackass". Is asking a question like this considered being a "jackass"
Did i hurt someones feelings?
A "yes or no" would have sufficed. ZackSpeed's answer was the closest to what I was looking for.
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I think the problem is this had been covered plenty in existing threads. Since the ATT ics release the ion forum has been inundated with people starting redundant threads on what we've been talking about for months. These people, late to the scene, can't be bothered with searching and reading, so they clog the forum with useless threads that we have to wait to be closed and buried.

jeriku said:
I think the problem is this had been covered plenty in existing threads. Since the ATT ics release the ion forum has been inundated with people starting redundant threads on what we've been talking about for months. These people, late to the scene, can't be bothered with searching and reading, so they clog the forum with useless threads that we have to wait to be closed and buried.
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well said

Disappointed on your decision to make a Sony Xperia Z forum before Asus PadFone 2

A dedicated Sony Xperia Z forum before Asus PadFone 2? I'm disappointed for the first time in XDA. There have been a LOT of requests for a separate forum for our lovely device that is already out in many parts of the world. And now you make a forum for a device that isn't even out yet!

Harboe said:
A dedicated Sony Xperia Z forum before Asus PadFone 2? I'm disappointed for the first time in XDA. There have been a LOT of requests for a separate forum for our lovely device that is already out in many parts of the world. And now you make a forum for a device that isn't even out yet!
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The PadFone is very expensive for what it is, and has failed to capture the interests of developers. The Xperia Z already has developer interest. We add devices based on development potential, and as of yet we've not seen anyone who is in a position to develop that is interested.

You seem to forget that this site is for developers, does not matter how many 'normal' users have a device its all down to the amount of developers that are interested in developing for a device

Pleaseeeeee create subforum
I got the phone from ebay US nd loving it without rooting nd custom rom
But trust me Asus rocks but why the moderators are being unfair for this super hero
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You guys can read reasons why its not created yet, here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2105207
Go through that thread.. you will understand..
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Guessing none of the mods are getting one and then there is no need to make a forum. From the request thread this have been much more sought for that the Sony. Ohh well.

Harboe said:
Guessing none of the mods are getting one and then there is no need to make a forum. From the request thread this have been much more sought for that the Sony. Ohh well.
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The PadFone series has had a recurring issue of not attracting developer attention, due to being more expensive than other similar products.
There has been no real developer interest that I'm aware of. That's why there's no forum.

and these?
http://www.modaco.com/forum/689-asus-padfone-2/
Please
Do not think it's that difficult to create a forum for padfone own 2, no industrial and other amounts, but there is interest!
And with your help, and creating a forum of their own, surely that would give him a push ...
And just to be specific, tablet + phone 700E. is cheaper to buy a phone and a tablet separately ...
thanks
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DjBastard said:
and these?
http://www.modaco.com/forum/689-asus-padfone-2/
Please
Do not think it's that difficult to create a forum for padfone own 2, no industrial and other amounts, but there is interest!
And with your help, and creating a forum of their own, surely that would give him a push ...
And just to be specific, tablet + phone 700E. is cheaper to buy a phone and a tablet separately ...
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Tbh I got a nexus 10 and phone for much less than 700 EUR...
I looked at the looked forum, seems a dead device... There are 6 threads. But if we add a device, mods must be assigned, and various other things done. As such, we don't add nearly as many niche devices as users would like.
I am afraid you've not really showed interest - do you have, for example, an established CM maintainer who has got source built CM running? These are the kinds of things that show developer interest

Asus padfone 2 subforum please!
Asus padfone 2 subforum please!

+1 for sub forum

+ 100000 sub forum padfone 2
That would greatly help the devs will be encouraged to get roms, etc and assume it would help to sell more ....

+1 for adding subforum

Guys, you don't need to be asking for a forum for the Padfone 2 because;
1) This is the wrong thread to be requesting a forum be added for it. The relevant thread is stickied at the top of this very forum AND
2) One of the admins has already explained that a forum won't be added unless there's proof of strong development for this device.
If, as already suggested, there was an established CM maintainer who has got CM running on this device, then that would likely greatly increase your chances of having a forum created.
Also, don't say that the Padfone 2 will get more developers once it has a forum because that's a load of rubbish. The device is what intrigues/entices the developers. NOT whether there's is a specific sub-forum or not.
There is a Miscellaneous Android Development forum which is perfect for your needs as you can post any development for the Padfone over there.

In facebook there is a portuguese group for this device! Guess how many of the people there actually develop something?
In 1500 people... 0 roms, themes, or whatever! So yes, i am quiet happy that they opened the forum for XPeria Z

is not expensive if u think that u get a phone and a table i buy mine and belive me is fantastic!

UP!

Some of you just don't get it. You're not getting the forum for the same reason I'm not getting a forum for the Kyocera Rise (except I'm not demanding one like I have some natural right to it). Do any of you have any evidence of custom ROM's, development, etc. for the Padfone?

dibblebill said:
Some of you just don't get it. You're not getting the forum for the same reason I'm not getting a forum for the Kyocera Rise (except I'm not demanding one like I have some natural right to it). Do any of you have any evidence of custom ROM's, development, etc. for the Padfone?
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I think there are some evidences, take a look:
root: http://www.modaco.com/topic/360416-superboot-padfone-2-root-solution/
cwm: http://www.modaco.com/topic/360432-r1-customised-recovery-image-for-the-asus-padfone-2/
deodexed rom: http://www.modaco.com/topic/360444-deodexed-wwe-rom-for-the-padfone-2/
"custom rom": http://www.modaco.com/topic/360458-pre-mcr-wwe-rom-for-the-padfone-2/
Finally the guy who is making this come true is a XDA member since 2003, his nick is PaulOBrien
do you need some more?

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Finally the guy who is making this come true is a XDA member since 2003, his nick is PaulOBrien
do you need some more?
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Yes. If it's just Paul you can easily use modaco as it's his forum.
Guys stop crying in here. XDA is a developers site.
If you really want to have a subforum then start developing for it.
That's the only way you'll get a dedicated forum. Constantly making +1 posts in here isn't helpful.
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A proposal for the XDA community to consider.

I'll get straight to the point.
The nature of our Development Forums on XDA have changed dramatically since the G1 days and unfortunatly its a change for the worst, its hitting in my opinion rock bottom with less and less people willing to contribute. Back when Android was born and XDA opened its doors to us G1 users we were all there for one reason. To LEARN!
The thirst for knowledge and understanding was exciting and thrilling, being the first to discover something new and letting it be free and available to all who wanted, to strive to break down the barriers that our providers put before us and set us all free! It was to be a complete geek and openly honest a complete rush for me and all of us.
Just writing about it sends a shiver down my spine I so enjoyed it all back then. But todays culture seems to be one of spoon feeding information to people who have no idea what they actually have in there hands, and to be frank would look at me cross eyed if I told them to use terminal emulator to enter a command! Now dont get me wrong I'm no linux expert I'm not even a beginner but I took time to learn terminal commands for Android to help further our community by not asking dumb questions and knowing what a search engine was!
So for my proposal and discussion as a community is.....
Should we allow the developers to HAVE the Developement forums?
We currently have General forums with support threads so basically if your not a developer you simply can't post in there. Lets give the devs somewhere they can talk with other devs and concentrate solely on development and not reading 15,000,000 pages of posts like 'The rom didn't work its rubbish' and replying back to all these people to try and gain some peace to work.
Well I have had my say and I look forward to some serious intelligent debate on this.

How exactly do you differentiate between a dev and non-dev? Also, there are plenty of non-dev users who find valuable info for the people doing the actual dev work.

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How exactly do you differentiate between a dev and non-dev? Also, there are plenty of non-dev users who find valuable info for the people doing the actual dev work.
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Easy. Can you build a rom? Do you know your arse from your elbow? And have you heard of google?
If you answer Yes to all three you're probably a dev.
No seriously you are perfectly correct and I understand what you are saying but again why couldn't we have that same discussion/help/suggestion here? Its basically the same and the devs can check in whenever they like as they already have to in their development threads now. We have help threads here that are basically unused because they are cluttering up the devs thread instead. We need to look at encouranging devs to stay and this to me gives them that and a lot more would be achieved I feel.

Perhaps a way for devs to have a open or closed thread.
Like asylum rom. There is discussion thread and a development thread.
Maybe an option to allow only recognised developers or senior members in a thread.
I agree junior members (noobs) are a pain in the ass.
I tought myself mostly by reading threads and figuring things out.... Why can't they? I don't know... I try to play nice though sometimes the stupidity bassles me.
A blacklist option or a "kick ban from thread" option for the dev. If someone is anoying to other members or just clutters the thread this would be a nice implementation for a dev.
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Don't see this being implemented anytime soon. Thread will probably be closed as well. Sad but true. People will always ask assisine questions that can be solved by searching or wiping.
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adolfo778 said:
Don't see this being implemented anytime soon. Thread will probably be closed as well. Sad but true. People will always ask assisine questions that can be solved by searching or wiping.
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God knows I understand that but again why not let this be the forum to ask them in?

I'm no dev. I'm far from it. But I can totally agree with what you say about it being different from the g1 days. I too get a little... Choked up...
I didn't even know what adb ment, let alone how to work it. Took me hours just to figure out and set up.
After rooting and handling updates for all my buddies phones plus my own... I'm a little more comfy. But I can't build a ROM.
There definatley a problem with people not reading. I mean... "Does cam work on this ROM?" Its answered on every page. I've seen it answered 3 posts before the question was asked.
Xda-Etiquette got lost somewhere along the way. Some things are too advanced for new android users. If it was, I didn't touch. New members don't think like that.
Read read read. Post in general or q&a. Don't clutter up dev threads with "thanks" and "help... I brick!".
Learn what a brick is. Lol.You don't have to be the first with s-off when you don't even know what it means. Wait til it becomes easier. Don't lose a device cuz you want to be on the cutting edge but don't even know what fastboot means.
Bs in the other topics. When you click that "android development" button, keep your mouth shut and read. Nothing most of the xda users, myself included, can say would be productive and helpful to devs.
And to end... I still <3 xda.
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DisruptiveMind said:
God knows I understand that but again why not let this be the forum to ask them in?
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Xda has gotten a lot more traffic Since the g1 days so noob questions are expected. I imagine if the mods were to implement your idea. Alot of those threads and members would be left with unanswered questions, plus you don't have to read the 500 pages in each thread just the OP we read through the pages to pass time
And most devs already talk to each other via iirc and gtalk and popular ROMs such as venom have there own forums. The difference is xda gets more traffic. More traffic = more downloads. Plus what fun is it if all the threads are serious, and devs dont get to bag on noobs
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adolfo778 said:
Xda has gotten a lot more traffic Since the g1 days so noob questions are expected. I imagine if the mods were to implement your idea. Alot of those threads and members would be left with unanswered questions, plus you don't have to read the 500 pages in each thread just the OP we read through the pages to pass time
And most devs already talk to each other via iirc and gtalk and popular ROMs such as venom have there own forums. The difference is xda gets more traffic. More traffic = more downloads. Plus what fun is it if all the threads are serious, and devs dont get to bag on noobs
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Once again they can! They just do it in here instead when the devs need a laugh. All help and dumb questions can be answered here in the General Forum meaning people would actually be more likely to read at least something of the first post in the Development Forum because its not as daunting knowing there is another 100 pages of posts to read following it.

Did you remember to fastboot flash the boot.img?

Thx for this thread, it always helps to discuss issues if they occur. In any case there is no need for closed dev threads @ XDA, since this would lead to believe we are only developing for our own pleasure. Reality is we all enjoy to push the envelope and share it with other guys in the forum. We all need and want feedback, so it`s not a problem XDA can solve.
All we can do is try to educate users, that we are happy to help them as long as they try to search for answers first either in the thread, on XDA or Google. Users in dev thread need also understand the following:
All custom ROM`s have bugs (so do stock ROM`s)
Not all these bugs are ROM related, in many cases the problem sits in front of the device.
If it`s a real bug, just report it, but don`t be demanding. Most of us just publish stuff here for pure pleasure of sharing and cause we are proud, that we could enhance the user experience with new features.
Users really need to understand, that we don`t have an obligation to update stuff in a certain time frame. We do that in our free time and it`s just a hobby.
Users should especially behave in a friendly manner and be respectful with everyone in the threads.
So bottom line - don`t expect XDA to solve the issues, we as a community must learn to respect each other and understand there`s more important stuff in life then a phone.
Edit: Maybe except the new ONE :laugh::angel::silly:

Well again I find myself saying all that can be done here, I never once said I wanted the Development thread closing or to create a nature of 'building for themselves' we could all still have access and well would need it to download roms so I don't understand where you are coming from on that point. Why do we have a support thread in General if the support is offered in the roms thread?
And to be honest as we need to be I have seen you yourself getting annoyed by the questions that pop up time and time again as has many other devs leading to yet more and more posts about ego wars and the tiredness of answering the same thing again and again and again. Simply let that stuff stay in here otherwise not only is General but Q&A forums seem to be somewhat pointless as no matter how hard you try being nice about it users will never learn. A place where real Developers can go and know the community takes care of the 'silly' stuff, as a developer yourself I would assume you would appreciate not having to spend so much time reading all the pointless posts that appear. You say rightly that you do this as a hobby and in your free time so wouldn't it be better if you knew you had somewhere to get away from it so to speak and spend that time doing work on your rom/s?

The stupid questions are just plain laziness. I'm basically a noob, this is my first android phone and I just got it last October. I can't remember even asking any questions, maybe as couple, literally. I'm usually the one helping out people who have been using android longer than me. In October, I remember having to look up what a kernel even was. Lol. So, yeah, people just have you seriously just read more, but don't just follow steps, try to understand what you are actually doing. Just following steps, you won't learn nothing.
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I don't think things will ever change. There are always going to be lazy, entitled noobs who want to be spoon fed. Changing that I think would be a losing battle. I'm not saying we should encourage them, but fighting and flaming simply won't ever change things. I think we should simply continue helping those who've shown they have no problem making the effort to help themselves and ignore the ones who want everything handed to them.