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I see people using different kernels with different roms. Why so many kernels and whats their use?
Kernels basically run the back end of your phone. A lot of people make different/ update the kernels because they find a different way to improve battery life and make the phone run smoother and faster. Also, SBC kernels implement trickle charging which makes it so your phone is at or near a 100% when you take it off the charger
This question belongs in the Q&A section, not in the development section.
it posts in the correct section for starters....or does some research as this question has been asked a million times already
Looks like XDA needs to make a 20 post min now.
This is going to by my new trademark...
ROM Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Oh, and please post your new kernel that you must be developing. I must have missed that somewhere in the OP.
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This is going to by my new trademark...
ROM Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Oh, and please post your new kernel that you must be developing. I must have missed that somewhere in the OP.
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Better late than never, I suppose Quoting because I like Big Red chewing gum.
Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didnt know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didn't know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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This made me LMAO!!! All that had to be said was, "Hey this is the wrong section, do a search in the Q&A forum and if you can't find it let people know you aren't having any luck with searching and someone should be able to point you in the right direction." Instead you get "**** OFF FNG!!!!" Good reason to stay apart of XDA huh. But of course everyone is a hard ass on the internet, duh.
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Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didnt know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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There are many forum police. You can either abide by their law or be stoned.
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Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didnt know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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Wow, you got us. To stick with your lunch table metaphor, imagine this subforum as a lunch table in a cafeteria. You and your friends are enjoying a nice conversation when out of nowhere 500 people run to your table and start vomiting all over it.
This subforum is set up so that they don't need to sticky legitimate development threads. Instead, they created other subforums for questions like these.
Yeah, it looks kind of bad when ten people run in going "wrong forum! wrong forum!," but they're trying to help in whatever way they can since this forum doesn't have a downvoting system.
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This made me LMAO!!! All that had to be said was, "Hey this is the wrong section, do a search in the Q&A forum and if you can't find it let people know you aren't having any luck with searching and someone should be able to point you in the right direction." Instead you get "**** OFF FNG!!!!" Good reason to stay apart of XDA huh. But of course everyone is a hard ass on the internet, duh.
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Your skill in 'White Knight' increases by 0.3.
Level up! You are now 'White Knight' Level 02.
One more reason people dont come to XDA anymore..... good job the the seasoned "grumps" who at one point asked questions as well. You guys have forgotten what the forums are all about and why your here.... FAIL.
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One more reason people dont come to XDA anymore..... good job the the seasoned "grumps" who at one point asked questions as well. You guys have forgotten what the forums are all about and why your here.... FAIL.
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Rule number 1
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
there's ALWAYS new thread's by someone that doesnt search, whether new to forums in general or just didnt take the time to search.. steer them in the right direction rather than away from the forums...
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agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
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well if he had to ask what a kernel is and what it does then at least we know if he doesn't come back the Development section won't be losing a great asset lol
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This made me LMAO!!! All that had to be said was, "Hey this is the wrong section, do a search in the Q&A forum and if you can't find it let people know you aren't having any luck with searching and someone should be able to point you in the right direction." Instead you get "**** OFF FNG!!!!" Good reason to stay apart of XDA huh. But of course everyone is a hard ass on the internet, duh.
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This is my theory... maybe this will scare and annoy people enough that they will actually think twice and possibly search before posting in the wrong section. They should be scared to come in here and start a thread about a non-development topic.
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Wow, you got us. To stick with your lunch table metaphor, imagine this subforum as a lunch table in a cafeteria. You and your friends are enjoying a nice conversation when out of nowhere 500 people run to your table and start vomiting all over it.
This subforum is set up so that they don't need to sticky legitimate development threads. Instead, they created other subforums for questions like these.
Yeah, it looks kind of bad when ten people run in going "wrong forum! wrong forum!," but they're trying to help in whatever way they can since this forum doesn't have a downvoting system.
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LMAO!!! +609783469078409 on this post, sir!
Comrade P said:
Rule number 1
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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QFT
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agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
there's ALWAYS new thread's by someone that doesnt search, whether new to forums in general or just didnt take the time to search.. steer them in the right direction rather than away from the forums...
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My post actually clarified what this section was for. I think it should be clear enough where NOT to post topics like this. I think it was helpful
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well if he had to ask what a kernel is and what it does then at least we know if he doesn't come back the Development section won't be losing a great asset lol
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Exactly.
klubhead said:
agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
there's ALWAYS new thread's by someone that doesnt search, whether new to forums in general or just didnt take the time to search.. steer them in the right direction rather than away from the forums...
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Spoken like a true White Knight. +1 to your Divine powers.
jeebuz.....
Way off topic, lock the thread already...
If it were one person, people probably wouldn't jump all over you, but its multiple threads daily, so people are a little less patient.
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Hi just seen a video of android 4.0 and it looks cool. Is there any ROM that has this?
Thanks
Did you check the development section for Desire?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355660
Everthing is working sweet except the camera.
Really? Is it possible to be THAT uninformed?
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Really? Is it possible to be THAT uninformed?
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I see another thread that can use the same answer man.
erklat said:
Really? Is it possible to be THAT uninformed?
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This is xda, a place where stupidity goes beyond boundaries of reality.
Rotfl. Way to funny for words.
Thanks guys
theres a new 4.0.3 custom rom for desire, much smoother but still no camera
try it out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416641
I think the ignorant ones are those who are forgetting that we are all noobs and clueless at the beginning. Then they gain a little knowledge, and suddenly think they're better than everyone else. This attitude is RAMPANT on this board.
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There is a new ICS rom named Evervold with android 4.0.3 and Chaosz-X kernel with HW Acc very stable.
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I think the ignorant ones are those who are forgetting that we are all noobs and clueless at the beginning. Then they gain a little knowledge, and suddenly think they're better than everyone else. This attitude is RAMPANT on this board.
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I agree. We are here to help each other no matter the level of experience.
Terepin, I am sure you'll feel a lot better if you start helping _everyone_.
@DamonZ28 and @sudkcoce:
I also agree on that, but the thread opener already has more than 100 posts. How does that fit?
on topic:
Tried the ROM in Sandvold's Thread some days ago. Working quite good so far, but needs a little more speed.
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I agree. We are here to help each other no matter the level of experience.
Terepin, I am sure you'll feel a lot better if you start helping _everyone_.
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It's not matter of level of experience, but level of stupidity. People who can't/won't/are lazy to use search and read, asking questions that were answered billions of times, asking for info that is available in sticky threads and posting "this rockz/I love you/can i have your autograph?" **** deserve to burn in BAN hell.
Users which actually do require help from senior members are only few. The rest is just lazy stupid little kids and ungrateful pigs, thinking that we are obligated to help them.
BULL****!
We already lost several great developers because of them and I'll fight them until my last breath, to slow down the process of turning this place into n00b swamp. 'Cause it's happening already, you mark my words on that.
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It's not matter of level of experience, but level of stupidity. People who can't/won't/are lazy to use search and read, asking questions that were answered billions of times, asking for info that is available in sticky threads and posting "this rockz/I love you/can i have your autograph?" **** deserve to burn in BAN hell.
Users which actually do require help from senior members are only few. The rest is just lazy stupid little kids and ungrateful pigs, thinking that we are obligated to help them.
BULL****!
We already lost several great developers because of them and I'll fight them until my last breath, to slow down the process of turning this place into n00b swamp. 'Cause it's happening already, you mark my words on that.
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Dude chill out man, we all start somewhere, some people have much more experience than others that doesn't make them "lazy stupid little kids and ungrateful pigs"
If you have a problem with people on the forums just leave them alone. i am in no way the most experienced guy here. i cant develop new ROMS/Apps/themes or anything to be honest. i just use what other people have made. i asked questions on how to flash a new rom when i joined the forums. i read the tutorials, does that make me a " lazy stupid little kid and an ungrateful pig"?
You read tutorials, yet you asked how to flash ROM?
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You read tutorials, yet you asked how to flash ROM?
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To be exact i messed something up and my phone was stuck in a bootloop while flashing a ROM. And guess what, someone helped me out and got it working for me! Isn't that amazing! The wonders of people HELPING others out
I get there are loads of tutorials out there, telling people exactly what to do and if something goes wrong what they should do, but if someone ask's for help, why not reply with a helpful answer rather than being a complete prick?
Edit: Ignore this. Mods delete this post.
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To be exact i messed something up and my phone was stuck in a bootloop while flashing a ROM. And guess what, someone helped me out and got it working for me! Isn't that amazing! The wonders of people HELPING others out
I get there are loads of tutorials out there, telling people exactly what to do and if something goes wrong what they should do, but if someone ask's for help, why not reply with a helpful answer rather than being a complete prick?
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Because those tutorials exist purely for the purpose of answering FAQ, so newbies don't have to ask them all the time. And yet, they still do. There is a word for that, and that word is spamming.
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ICS
Now with camera - HERE
I think the biggest annoyance with this thread is that the OP is clearly aware of how to flash ROMs, and therefore I would assume where to find them. Therefore a very quick look at the dev forum would have shown them the ICS builds currently being developed - making this thread needless.
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Hello , im going to buy the One x and are there going to bee a Unlock or S-off without the htcdev.com . i will not lose my warrinty .
No, pretty sure there will be no development done on the OneX at all. There are currently no threads in the Dev section talking about this topic, so I would encourage you not to bother using the search button to find any, you'll only be wasting your own time.
In fact, probably best not to bother buying this phone, if you were hoping for any cool ROMs or custom recovery etc.
Sorry.
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No, pretty sure there will be no development done on the OneX at all. There are currently no threads in the Dev section talking about this topic, so I would encourage you not to bother using the search button to find any, you'll only be wasting your own time.
In fact, probably best not to bother buying this phone, if you were hoping for any cool ROMs or custom recovery etc.
Sorry.
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Thankyou for reminding me why I love Australians so much
M.
777ace said:
No, pretty sure there will be no development done on the OneX at all. There are currently no threads in the Dev section talking about this topic, so I would encourage you not to bother using the search button to find any, you'll only be wasting your own time.
In fact, probably best not to bother buying this phone, if you were hoping for any cool ROMs or custom recovery etc.
Sorry.
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now that a very sad news , so are you sure there will be no unlocked without losing warranty or are you just saying ? because if no unlock no buy
Well, I think what our Australian friend is suggesting is that you visit the development board SOUTH of this one.
Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week.
Or... until I'm banned.
I was kidding.
Everything I said in that post, do the opposite. Especially the bit about looking in the Dev section...
Ooops beaten. What John said
Can we get our own forum for the ION back ??? This is too confusing....already hard to search for what you are looking for Now I have to deal with other two devices. Similar but they are not the same !!!!
Please don't merge !!!!
I second this.
What really sucks is I need to de odex file for 29 so I can finish setting my phone up. Us Ion guys had enough of a issue keeping the newbs squared away and this is going to make it much worse. People are going to be trying to flash stuff they dont need to and messing up their device. I dont have a problem reading but some apparently do.
Now if this was a merge of the T, TL, TX, GX etc I could understand.
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Agree, now it is much easier to get Hard brick.
Yes I think every one who has any of these phones in the merge would agree that this merge is not a good idea.
I also don't like it. We had a nice clean and organized forum.
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+1 BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Very disappointed in the slopyness of our once tidy Ion forum. Why go and mess up a good thing.
So Sad...............
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I agree. We worked hard to keep the ion forums organized and clean now its all a big mess with the added devices.
Part of the reason I didn't post or help out as much in the XS/XP threads was because it was such a mess. New users always asking the same questions already covered because they couldn't find the answers. Now it will be the same for the ion.
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Who make this decision anyway? And who would we talk to voice our opinion ? The forum Moderator? Cant even post in that thread.
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I used the triangle shaped report button in the OP of this thread to ask the mods whats up and who I can message about this. still waiting for response.:crying:
Moderators don't make the decisions regarding forum change arounds. Admins do.
This also isn't the best way to go about getting things changed.
I've been approved by Snowflake. Jealous?
Just give xperia s another section.
Nobody wants this things so just make it. Even the simpliest phone got it.
And of course, Sammy phone third got own sections with mobile carrier, ftw????
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I also i need to mention this. You must be an retard to hard brick an Sony.
If you cant read the difference between the topic names... then you must be... nvm.
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XS user here,
why xda can't just make 1 section for each model?...
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XS user here,
why xda can't just make 1 section for each model?...
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Indeed. At least we have separate development sections, otherwise this would be impossible..
I smell sammys...
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Best thing that's happened to the Xperia S in the last few weeks, when it was lumbered in with about 15 other handsets you couldn't find anything and posts were dropping.
I'd like to thank the mods :good:
For those wishing to send a Message to the forum ADMIN, here is a link to him
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=335322
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For those wishing to send a Message to the forum ADMIN, here is a link to him
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=335322
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Ummm... Bad idea.
Everyone spamming his inbox will not get results. Spamming threads will not get results. There's a way to do all of this properly. Go and have a discussion about this in the Xperia Hangout Thread in general and once you all agree on how it should be, make the requests in the relevant place.
Will you lot never be bloody happy though?
When the Xperia S forum was first created and had a ton of devices mixed with it, it was a mess. You lot (not you guys in particular) then started moaning about it.
It got changed to exactly what was asked, and you lot still started moaning about it.
It's been changed around again and once again all people are doing is moaning.
If you want anything to change you can't simply say "It's rubbish, so change it". You need to think of ideas which you all can agree with and give them a try.
This wasn't all aimed at the person I quoted by the way, it was aimed at everyone who decides to carry on moaning about this.
I've been approved by Snowflake. Jealous?
Even if you all don't like the merge, for ION users it presents a good opportunity for development. Devs from the XPS or Acro could possibly work on the ION since the software is similar. Merging the forums will bring attention to the ION, at least I think so.
This is my PMs to admin MikeChannon.
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Dear sir,
I frequently visit the XPERIA ION & X10 forums. I always help keep both clean & organized with the help of the report button and the moderators. However my Ion thread has been grouped with phones that don't have compatible software. Can you please separate the general, Q&A and apps & themes forums of Xperia Ion, S, ARCO S. I always try to help users with there problems. However now with all the threads mixed up, not properly labeled, it will be harder to use the search feature. Also in an attempt to help mods clean up 3 phones forums, they will be over run with requests for thread maintenance. This will actually create more work.
I was also wondering why the Samsung sgs3 gets 5 seperate forums based on carrier service. In the Ion forum we help with the 4+ models all in the same forum. I don't know but seems like the Sammys are spreading out while you round up the Sony's.
Please take no offence, none is meant. All of XDA mods and admins do an awesome job and thank you.
~Jaramie
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Well unofficially, it seems Sony want to work with us, which is good, but they wanted some re-organization done, which might suit their purposes more than ours. It is not me but another Admin who is dealing with this. The User Experience Admin Svetius, he might be able to tell you more. As I understand it the changes will take quite a long time so it very likely is in a mess at the moment, but may get better.
Mike
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Hi guys! I deliver this phone yesterday.
It uses stock 2.3.5 and I want to upgrade a newer version.
I see many roms but really do not know which to use with.
As for my expectations from rom. I need as everybody stability, performance and good battery life.
I need your opinions.
From now thanx for your advices.
If you bothered to read any stickied thread in this forum you'd have an answer for this.. It amazes me how not one person reads forum rules or stickies before asking the same question daily...
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If you bothered to read any stickied thread in this forum you'd have an answer for this.. It amazes me how not one person reads forum rules or stickies before asking the same question daily...
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Reading stickies/forum rules aside; if you're gonna ask a question that's been asked a hundred times before, why not, at the very least, revive one of the multiple dozens of threads where that question has been asked already instead of creating more useless clutter in an already irreparably cluttered board?
Hey, at least he's not asking how to root, or what's with the error after flashing CWM over official ICS
Lol. Yeah that's true.. Its funny if you go back to the sub forum there's (estimate without actually checking) probably about 5 asking what's the best ROM, or how do I root.. Meanwhile there's like 2 or 3 stickies explaining it... In the same exact page!
Um all for forum activity, and a live forum is definitely better than a dead one but come on people seriously.. I'm not trying to be a jerk and sorry if it comes off that way but I've only been a registered member for not even a year and it does get frustrating. Just try to read some posts before making a dumb one.. If you have a question its pretty much guaranteed its been answered.
The forum rules, which are actually a global announcement if I'm not mistaken; clearly state that if you're too lazy to experiment with the ROMs and find out for yourself which one is best then this isn't the right place for you.. And I wholeheartedly agree. I've only had the p930 since last November or so and I've been testing ROMs since day one and I've never once had to ask how to root or which ROM to use... That's the whole fun/enjoyment of android dev IMO.
There's my two cents. If you honestly still can't find an answer then there's probably no hope. Get a friend to mod your phone.. Lol
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Lol. Yeah that's true.. Its funny if you go back to the sub forum there's (estimate without actually checking) probably about 5 asking what's the best ROM, or how do I root.. Meanwhile there's like 2 or 3 stickies explaining it... In the same exact page!
Um all for forum activity, and a live forum is definitely better than a dead one but come on people seriously.. I'm not trying to be a jerk and sorry if it comes off that way but I've only been a registered member for not even a year and it does get frustrating. Just try to read some posts before making a dumb one.. If you have a question its pretty much guaranteed its been answered.
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My conclusion is that the "Search this forum" box doesn't seem to appear for 95% of the people... I mean, that's the only logical explanation, right?
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My conclusion is that the "Search this forum" box doesn't seem to appear for 95% of the people... I mean, that's the only logical explanation, right?
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Seems that way eh...
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I asked a simple question, and need an opinion. Absolutely I had searched the forum,
there are so many different q/a posts. I have just confused.
Yes. I don't ask how to root or flash. I'm not new on android.
Maybe I know more than you think.
I this is the way you help other peoples who need help.
This is your satisfactionary.
If you don't want to help, just don't type anything. Let it be blank,
So may the others can share their opinions.
And I didn't post for you to chat here. You can send eachother pm (acording your thoughts) about people who want an opinion.
Btw. I don't need your opinion.
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I asked a simple question, and need an opinion. Absolutely I had searched the forum,
there are so many different q/a posts. I have just confused.
Yes. I don't ask how to root or flash. I'm not new on android.
Maybe I know more than you think.
I this is the way you help other peoples who need help.
This is your satisfactionary.
If you don't want to help, just don't type anything. Let it be blank,
So may the others can share their opinions.
And I didn't post for you to chat here. You can send eachother pm (acording your thoughts) about people who want an opinion.
Btw. I don't need your opinion.
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Look, I'm glad to have you as a part of the community; there is not one single person who shouldn't be a part of what we have here. All I'm saying is that, instead of posting a new thread to ask a question that has been thoroughly covered in multiple other threads; why not, at the very least, revive an old thread for this purpose instead of adding more clutter to an already cluttered board? It's posts like this which are the reason that there are "already so many different q/a posts."
I never said or implied that you were new to Android, and I never once said or implied that you were ignorant when it comes to Android devices. Believe me, I'm far from knowing anywhere near what I would like to know; but I guarantee you that almost every single question that has been, and will be asked on this board has already been covered multiple times; including "which rom is best". The development section has discussions covering the bugs and gremlins for every ROM released for this device via XDA. No real need to read every single page of each threads, just skim the last few pages and you'll get an idea of where the ROMs stand in their current form.
With that being said, I DO apologize for being a complete jackass and for the tone which I put across; but the sentiment remains.
Also, I have put forth an answer buried in my reply here; although it is a little verbose and requires you to do a little more leg-work to form your own opinion... which is what counts the most.
The answers you seek are on the very page you posted this in...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2206596
^ There you go.
If you want the latest Android experience (4.22), the best all around bet is probably the unofficial PAC-ROM + Wind kernel 1.7 or 1.8. Bluetooth works pretty well, I think the only bugs are the other common CM10.1 ones- 1080p recording crashes, hitting the power button while in the camera app crashes. If you don't care about bluetooth and just want speed and battery, check out JellyBAM- it is slightly less stable than PAC but it flies.
If you are ok with ICS (4.0X) then HO!NO!'s CM9, Liquid Nitro or HO!NO!'s V20f are solid.
But in the future, search around and do a lot of research before posting a question- on most forums it annoys the members to be answering the same questions repeatedly
OP no, just try for yourself....