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Retweet this https://twitter.com/xboxfanj/status/263413673643630593
And send this to all applicable LG support channels
Why are you alienating the development enthusiasts with your Optimus G? It has unparalleled hardware, but the locked bootloader makes it a tough sell for myself and the development enthusiasts at XDA, RootzWiki, and many more sites, and it also makes me unlikely to recommend it to my friends and family who go to me for advice on their technological purchases (and people who go to other development experts around the world). Samsung has unlocked bootloaders. Motorola and HTC have unlockable bootloaders. Now, it's time to step it up, LG and follow suit. I know you don't want me and millions of people like me to buy from your competitors. So fix it!
I really want to buy your Optimus G and have the beautiful design and amazing S4 Pro processor, but if I have to forfeit that to be able to use my phone how I would like, that's a sacrifice I am willing to make.
There are 1,310 people and counting who have signed this petition asking for an unlockable bootloader, so get your act together, LG.
http://www.change.org/petitions/lg-...opportunity-to-unlock-bootloader-in-lg-phones
This could propel you ahead of Samsung, Apple, and HTC, since your hardware at the moment is by far the best, but your software, updates, and developer support are lacking. An unlockable bootloader would end these complaints and make hundreds of thousands of people more likely to buy an Optimus G.
And don't forget to sign this petition: http://www.change.org/petitions/lg-...opportunity-to-unlock-bootloader-in-lg-phones
Together, we can make LG change.
Together, we can make the Optimus G a better phone.
Let's unite and make LG unlock those bootloaders, just as consumers have made HTC and Motorola do the same.
This too: https://twitter.com/xboxfanj/status/263415788218753024
And send that to their other channels as well. The more people that send this, the more likely it is that LG will acquiesce.
Here is the response I got from LG's email:
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The bootloader is locked, Jake, at the Carrier's request I'm afraid.
If you are looking for a Developer device, however, then you can look forward to a device that Google should be announcing sometime this week.
So sorry about the inconvenience this has caused, and I hope you have a great day!
That's BS since Sprint doesn't have any locked devices, so there's no way that's true.
I told them that and haven't heard back yet.
xboxfanj said:
Here is the response I got from LG's email:
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The bootloader is locked, Jake, at the Carrier's request I'm afraid.
If you are looking for a Developer device, however, then you can look forward to a device that Google should be announcing sometime this week.
So sorry about the inconvenience this has caused, and I hope you have a great day!
That's BS since Sprint doesn't have any locked devices, so there's no way that's true.
I told them that and haven't heard back yet.
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Motorola Photon is locked.
Would you think it would be hard to unlock the bootloader if the Nexus 4 is pretty much the same phone.
Dex4 said:
Motorola Photon is locked.
Would you think it would be hard to unlock the bootloader if the Nexus 4 is pretty much the same phone.
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Yeah but that isn't still for sale as far as I know. The photon q is unlockable. And none of the devices that are unlocked on other carriers are locked on sprint.
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xboxfanj said:
Yeah but that isn't still for sale as far as I know. The photon q is unlockable. And none of the devices that are unlocked on other carriers are locked on sprint.
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Good point.
Well, I did sign the petition... Hopefully it helps, BTW, I pre-ordered mine today from Sprint, not Wirefly in hopes that I actually get it early. We'll see...
Just posting to say good luck to you guys on this issue. I know we tried a good bit of petitioning with the photon so we could retain our 4g while unlocking.
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I put my name on the petition also hopefully lg will listen because I really want 4.2 on this beast, and and for those that ask why not get the nexus 4 its simple 16 gigs isn'tbnear enough storage
And because it isn't for sprint. I cannot switch carriers at the moment.
Another good point and who knows if sprint will get the n4
Signed, I really want to get this, but won't if the bootloader isn't unlocked.
Signed and loving the phone its amazing
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Okay so I'm in love w/ my g/f's M. Giving up my S3 to come back to the Moto side of things. With that said, I want to get a dev edition.
I'm very familiar with Hash, P3, Dhacker etc being an old Razr owner. With that said not sure if the $200 price difference (ebay used retail vs. new on ebay or Moto for dev edition) is worth it.
Sucks that Moto is somewhat based out of Illinois as to buy the dev edition from their site I would have to pay $77 in taxes...
So I found a couple dev editions on Ebay for $579.
What are your thoughts. I normally stick to AOSP roms, although the new JB OTA is pretty good from Moto after installing on my g/f's M.
The one thing I can't help but notice is the slight lag, which feels like taking a step back from the S3. Chalk it up to the extra gig of RAM I suppose on the S3. Thus, brings me to my main reason of wanting a developer edition. Kernels and OC'ing.
What say you XDA'ers?
The Razr M (Not Droid) - model XT905 - the Aussie Retail Razr M is unlockable just like the Dev Edition Droid Razr M. So for us over here in Oz this is a great thing, but if you need CDMA then maybe not so much. It's a great phone, though.
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The Razr M (Not Droid) - model XT905 - the Aussie Retail Razr M is unlockable just like the Dev Edition Droid Razr M. So for us over here in Oz this is a great thing, but if you need CDMA then maybe not so much. It's a great phone, though.
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Have any of you guys with the Aussie one tried out the CM10 ROM that's out for the Dev Edition?
Well I bought one brand new. It will be here tomorrow. Let the fun begin.
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Well I bought one brand new. It will be here tomorrow. Let the fun begin.
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Enjoy
It's a good phone and will be fun.
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Enjoy
It's a good phone and will be fun.
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Matt, where are all you guys hanging out at for this phone? AOSP.US? Noticed Droidrzr isn't active much for this phone, nor is DF. This forum doesn't have much either.
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Matt, where are all you guys hanging out at for this phone? AOSP.US? Noticed Droidrzr isn't active much for this phone, nor is DF. This forum doesn't have much either.
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our thread isnt very active... once we start getting development, im sure this thread'll pick up
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our thread isnt very active... once we start getting development, im sure this thread'll pick up
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:good:
I'm hoping to build some kernels for this phone on the dev edition at least. I know my S3 will handle at least 2100 stable. So it shouldn't be too much of an issue with the M. And now that plenty of kernels have been put out there on the S4 processor, should be relatively painless.
W/ that said I don't know the first thing about ROM'ing. Would love to learn but working 50-60 hour weeks around inmates, I value to my time off to not stress myself over building rom's that would no doubt be buggy and then trying to troubleshoot. Who knows, maybe down the road I'll build up the courage.
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I'm hoping to build some kernels for this phone on the dev edition at least. I know my S3 will handle at least 2100 stable. So it shouldn't be too much of an issue with the M. And now that plenty of kernels have been put out there on the S4 processor, should be relatively painless.
W/ that said I don't know the first thing about ROM'ing. Would love to learn but working 50-60 hour weeks around inmates, I value to my time off to not stress myself over building rom's that would no doubt be buggy and then trying to troubleshoot. Who knows, maybe down the road I'll build up the courage.
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A kernel should be easy, if and when they release kernel source. As for roms, that's where everything will happen lol. I have a retail model, sadly but this is one beast of a device. I'm curious about the "around inmates" part of that post lol
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A kernel should be easy, if and when they release kernel source. As for roms, that's where everything will happen lol. I have a retail model, sadly but this is one beast of a device. I'm curious about the "around inmates" part of that post lol
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work for the fed bureau of prisons. I'm a CO and do a lot of transporting idiots to and from places.
need help
can someone help me get back to stock i got the files all downloaded and then i go to fastboot and the rsd lite cant find my phone in fastboot what do i do from there please help asap
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I think most of us r staying away from the droid/CDMA roms
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I had some thoughts awhile back about the possibility of downgrading to a bootloader unlockable firmware. It's not possible to downgrade to 9.8.1Q-66 for which Dan Rosenberg's BL unlock exploit works because Fastboot won't allow it. However, that got me to thinking. Dan's motopocalypse works by exploiting TrustZone, what if I just downgrade trustzone? Can the exploit work then? That happens to be one of the partitions that Fastboot protects. "Fastboot flash tz tz.mbn" returns an error, something about being unable to downgrade. So I wondered, on a rooted device stuck on 9.8.1Q-94, is the tz partition (/dev/block/mmcblk0p7) writable once the phone has booted? The answer is yes. I was able to write the older tz.mbn file into mmcblk0p7 and used cat to pull it back down and do a binary compare to tz.bin to verify it wrote correctly. However, I learned that doing this makes a hard brick, for which a $50 JTAG repair is required.
Anyway, let's put aside the fact that I'm an idiot that jumps right into things I don't have any clue about. I wondered why this didn't work? Could it have something to do with what Dan wrote here?
If the FORCE_TRUSTED_BOOT QFuse is blown, as is the case on all production Motorola devices, each stage of the boot chain is cryptographically verified to ensure only authorized bootloader stages may be run. In particular, the PBL ("Primary Bootloader"), which resides in mask ROM, verifies the integrity of the SBL1 ("Secondary Bootloader") via a SHA1 hash. Each stage of the boot chain verifies the next stage using RSA signatures, until finally Motorola's APPSBL ("Application Secondary Bootloader"), "MBM", is loaded and run.
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So maybe the reason my phone is hard-bricked after downgrading the tz partition is because each stage of the boot chain is verified. Maybe downgrading the TZ alone is like breaking a link in the chain of trust because the other partitions are seeing one is the wrong version. Is that a likely explanation for my hard brick?
Now my faulty little hamster brain is thinking, what if I'd downgraded ALL partitions in the boot chain of trust using the DD command? Could that have worked and NOT broken the chain of trust? Well, I will definitely NOT try it since I can't afford to brick another RAZR M just on some uneducated random thoughts I had (and nobody else should try this either), but I wanted to throw my thoughts out there for discussion in the hopes of maybe sparking ideas in someone who is a lot smarter about this stuff than I am.
If someone DOES have a JTAG rig and could try it with impunity, here is the partition map I found http://batakang.com/XT907.php. Seems to be accurate for what partitions I did check.
http://www.cricketusers.com/verizon...cricket-talk-text-mms-internet.html#post15335
I thought you had asked about using QPST.....
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http://www.cricketusers.com/verizon...cricket-talk-text-mms-internet.html#post15335
I thought you had asked about using QPST.....
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Nah it seems like he is attempting to reverse the BL patch on phone that Took the OTA.
Theoretically it is possible with the right tools and certifications.
Since Motorola Factory can probably Flash anything they want.
But we have no idea how to bypass those blocks after the Patch.
So OP is trying it Brute force flashing everything he can reverse in hope the Fuse Block can be then blown with the exploit.
Yep, Germanese got it right.
I mentioned using qpst in his other thread because I thought he could unbrick the downgraded tz phone with it And possibly downgrade at the same time because in its bricked state it would possibly accept the older firmware...
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Unfortunately, the phone only presents one USB device ID of 05c6:f006. Windows thinks it's an HID Input Device. Not even lucky enough to get a QDL Loader device showing up. Forcing a Qualcomm modem driver to load results in a yellow exclamation that device cannot start. I haven't tried Linux, but it looks like best case scenario on Linux is to possibly be able to load a modem driver, but then flashing would depend on if there is an AT command to flash a firmware.
I'm not so much interested in fixing my old motherboard as my phone is working great with a new motherboard, but I'm hoping a light bulb pops on in someone's head on how we can get old FW on these phones to take advantage of Motopocalypse.
Only other idea I have is if someone could organize a "strongly worded email" campaign to Motorola requesting they allow us to unlock our bootloaders. Slim chance of that working since I think less than half a dozen people would be willing to take the time and it would probably take thousands flooding their inboxes for someone high enough in Motorola to take notice. I doubt non-unlockable bootloaders is a Verizon idea since I was able to unlock the BL on all my HTC VZW phones right from their website.
I believe Motorola needs to get Verizon to allow a release that can bust the bootloader open, and we know how greeding Verizon is.
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I believe Motorola needs to get Verizon to allow a release that can bust the bootloader open, and we know how greeding Verizon is.
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I spoke with a Verizon rep about who makes that call. He told me it was Motorola, that Verizon has nothing to do with whether or not unlocked bootloader is allowed. He might not have known what he was talking about.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Motorola. Otherwise, how come HTC lets you unlock the BL on their Verizon phones?
How come all other similar Motos without Verizon's branding (e.g. Electrify M, RAZR i) let you unlock the BL?
And how come you can unlock Moto X from any carrier, but Verizon?
Still think it's Motorola?
Its the carriers blocking it. Sony xperia til is blocked by Att but every other xperia t model can be. Its just like bloat they control that and BL locks.
SeNT FRoM My MoToRoLA RaZR M XT907 oN T-MoBiLe
I don't know about that. Look at this chart:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215/action/auth
You will see that IF there is a Developer Edition available for a higher price, then the lower cost consumer version does NOT have a BL unlock available.
IF there is NO higher priced Dev Ed device available, then the consumer version can be BL unlocked.
It looks to me like whoever profits from the selling of DevEd devices is the one who calls the shots.
I know this is going to sound a bit crude, but has anyone tried calling Motorola and asking if they can unlock the bootloader for us?
I'm tempted to call customer service and just ask them. Warranty voided or not, I'd like to have it unlocked and seeing as how I paid money for this device, I want to use it as I see fit.
I didn't call, but I sent an email and received a slightly better than form-letter response (the last 2 sentences give a little bit of hope).
We apologize for any inconvenience. We completely understand how you wanted to unlock the bootloader of your device but the Droid Razr M does not support this feature. The option to unlock the bootloader is currently available for Droid Razr M developer edition. Please know that we are documenting this concerns and this will be routed to the proper department.Hopefully, we will have the same option for the regular Droid Razr M.
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I doubt you could get a much better response unless you manage to get the ear of someone with a pretty high pay grade at the company.
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I didn't call, but I sent an email and received a slightly better than form-letter response (the last 2 sentences give a little bit of hope).
I doubt you could get a much better response unless you manage to get the ear of someone with a pretty high pay grade at the company.
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I would call bs on their end. The RAZR M regular and dev editions are physically the same phone. Specs are identical. And tell them the boot loader has been unlocked on a previous update as proof of concept. You will have to get through the first few levels of support before you get a real answer.
I'm thinking about pursuing this as well. Keep us updated with what happens
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I would call bs on their end. The RAZR M regular and dev editions are physically the same phone. Specs are identical. And tell them the boot loader has been unlocked on a previous update as proof of concept. You will have to get through the first few levels of support before you get a real answer.
I'm thinking about pursuing this as well. Keep us updated with what happens
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Oh, I'm pretty sure they know it's not a physical difference. It's a political decision. I personally think it's Motorola and not Verizon making the decision, because of the fact they do sell an unlockable Developer Edition for a premium, which works on the Verizon network.
I'm not sure that going from the bottom will get results. I bet this is a decision well above their pay grade. Might have to see if we can find some executive email addresses and start at the top. At least, that's how someone got results with Apple. Supposedly, the reason AT&T started allowing iPhones to be unlocked is because someone sent an email to Tim Cook, or so the story goes. I haven't been able to find any email addresses for any Motorola execs (there is a "Motorola Executive Team" website, but Contact Us goes to a standard web form).
Verizon Wireless has established a standard of excellence in customer experience with our branded devices and customer service. There is an expectation that if a customer has a question, they can call Verizon Wireless for answers that help them maximize their enjoyment and use of their wireless phone. Depending on the device, an open boot loader could prevent Verizon Wireless from providing the same level of customer experience and support because it would allow users to change the phone or otherwise modify the software and, potentially, negatively impact how the phone connects with the network. The addition of unapproved software could also negatively impact the wireless experience for other customers. It is always a delicate balance for any company to manage the technology choices we make for our branded devices and the requests of a few who may want a different device experience. We always review our technology choices to ensure that we provide the best solution for as many customers as possible.
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That's it... That's what Motorola told me... Verizon wants to be able to trouble shoot your device to unsure they can provide the same coverage to all their customers... If we alter our device they won't be able to know if its what we have done to our device or an issue with their service...from Verizon's POV I understand and agree... From ours not so much but that's why Motorola offers the developer editions
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In that case, we need contact info for Verizon execs.
They should, at least, allow BL unlocks for devices that are no longer under contract or warranty and therefore no longer entitled to technical support.
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And what if I'm using the phone on another carrier outside of Verizon?
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Is anyone aware of any status on unlocking the bootloader for Verizon, Sprint etc? Is anyone working on accomplishing this?
Not to criticize you specifically because you're not the only person who's done this, but these kind of threads are pointless.
With a flagship device like the G4, there's always people working on a bootloader unlock for all the major carriers. The hackers/dev teams responsible generally don't share their progress with the public.
So yes, it's being worked on. And no you're likely not going to get any progress updates until a release/method randomly drops one day. And when it does I'm sure you'll hear about it.
Looks like there is some possible progress over in this Verizon G4 thread
So the devs ditched their work on unlocking bootloaders for all???
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Akomack said:
Looks like there is some possible progress over in this Verizon G4 thread
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Interesting discovery, but doesn't seem to
be leading to an unlocked bootloader anytime soon.
nipun1110 said:
So the devs ditched their work on unlocking bootloaders for all???
using Tapatalk on my LG-H815T rooted
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Probably not, but they haven't been posting around here lately. Probably too busy spending all that sweet booty from getting root.
I think one of the best things that we all love about android is ability to change your phone and add what you want via root. My question is this, if the future of android is to lock all bootloaders, why should we stay with android and not get an I phone? If I can't get viper4android I'm not sure if I'm gonna stay with android. What are your thoughts?
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I think one of the best things that we all love about android is ability to change your phone and add what you want via root. My question is this, if the future of android is to lock all bootloaders, why should we stay with android and not get an I phone? If I can't get viper4android I'm not sure if I'm gonna stay with android. What are your thoughts?
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if v4a is all you want for android then get iphone h8r
BaconSeeds said:
if v4a is all you want for android then get iphone h8r
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A h8r wouldn't have android for the last 6 years...smh
There are only 2 types of Android customizers, people who can customize without root and bad customizers
If u really like a locked down device get an iphone. Last jailbreak took 11 months to get. Stock icons sucks on ios. At least u have options with android without root.
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I think one of the best things that we all love about android is ability to change your phone and add what you want via root. My question is this, if the future of android is to lock all bootloaders, why should we stay with android and not get an I phone? If I can't get viper4android I'm not sure if I'm gonna stay with android. What are your thoughts?
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Because an iPhone is more locked down than an Android. It would be really dumb to downgrade to iOS just because your Android has a locked bootloader... That's just like replacing your gaming PC with a cheap Android tablet just because you don't like the new Ubuntu update.
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I think one of the best things that we all love about android is ability to change your phone and add what you want via root. My question is this, if the future of android is to lock all bootloaders, why should we stay with android and not get an I phone? If I can't get viper4android I'm not sure if I'm gonna stay with android. What are your thoughts?
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Where did you see that the bootloader is locked?
So far, only the VZW carrier version is confirmed to be locked.
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Because an iPhone is more locked down than an Android. It would be really dumb to downgrade to iOS just because your Android has a locked bootloader... That's just like replacing your gaming PC with a cheap Android tablet just because you don't like the new Ubuntu update.
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Everyone that has a iPhone isn't dumb. It's not about which OS is the best because they both have their plus and minus. The thing is that android is starting to lock their phones down just like Apple. The options that we all love about android are starting to fade (bootloader, removable battery, sd card). So if this keeps going on, android will be very similar to Apple, which is something none of us want.
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Where did you see that the bootloader is locked?
So far, only the VZW carrier version is confirmed to be locked.
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We won't know until someone gets the phone in their hands. Verizon is definitely locked, but phones bought from Google may not be locked.
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Everyone that has a iPhone isn't dumb. It's not about which OS is the best because they both have their plus and minus. The thing is that android is starting to lock their phones down just like Apple. The options that we all love about android are starting to fade (bootloader, removable battery, sd card). So if this keeps going on, android will be very similar to Apple, which is something none of us want.
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I didn't *say* anything about the intelligence of Apple users, nor did I really talk crap about iOS. All I said was switching to an OS which is *even more* locked down, just because the bootloader is locked, is a dumb decision. Like, you're angry that Android is locked down, so in retaliation you switch to something more locked down. Really??
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I didn't *say* anything about the intelligence of Apple users, nor did I really talk crap about iOS. All I said was switching to an OS which is *even more* locked down, just because the bootloader is locked, is a dumb decision. Like, you're angry that Android is locked down, so in retaliation you switch to something more locked down. Really??
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If they're both locked down more people will move to whichever OS they like because they are becoming more and more similar. You're dumd if you think that's not going to happen for whatever reason that a person chooses is best for them, and not what you think is the best decision. Wow!!!
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If they're both locked down more people will move to whichever OS they like because they are becoming more and more similar. You're dumd if you think that's not going to happen for whatever reason that a person chooses is best for them, and not what you think is the best decision. Wow!!!
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I don't understand the broken grammar in the second sentence.
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I don't understand the broken grammar in the second sentence.
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Lol, you probably wouldn't. Go and troll somewhere else.
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Lol, you probably wouldn't. Go and troll somewhere else.
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Lol how was I trolling? Don't get angry at me cause you don't know how to speak proper English.
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Folks, cut it out. This conversion can't be constructive and inflammatory at the same time. Please be respectful and let's have a mature discussion about this.
That being said, I thought I saw someone who said they got in touch with a Google rep who said the bootloader will unlocked, at least from the Play Store. Take it with a grain of salt, since not all manufacturers' reps know the difference between a bootloader and carrier locks, but this is Google we're talking about.
Now I'm not the most savy on bootloaders, more just an open source dev. But the nexus 6 I got from a verizon store had a locked boot loader. The nexus 6p I had for a short time had a locked boot loader. But they were unlocked fairly easily. From what I have always seem every phone had a locked boot loader that requires it to be unlocked to allow access and write to protected partitions. But the issue that I know is when in gets encrypted is when the issue arises. Without getting the verizon models in hand by a dev, we don't currently know if it is encrypted yet, or has this already been discovered? I highly doubt any verizon rep on the phone or on a chat will know the answer to that question. I believe the htc 10 on verizon has an encrypted bootloader, but it also had the htc bootloader, I assume the pixel is going to have the google boot loader. I just personally wanted to clarify it for my self if my understanding is correct, from someone who has a better grasp on this.
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I'm really hoping it's unlocked because I want this phone, but the note 7 has got me weary.
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We won't know until someone gets the phone in their hands. Verizon is definitely locked, but phones bought from Google may not be locked.
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This Youtube unboxing shows an unlocked bootloader.
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This Youtube unboxing shows an unlocked bootloader.
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The fact that this guy has the phone already makes me think he's unique. Possibly a developer that 1) already unlocked it and just put everything back in just to do an unboxing video or 2) it came that way to him since he is or may be a developer or reviewer.
Either way it's promising that it can be unlocked. All the Nexus phones came locked but were easily unlocked. The Verizon one worries me, but I imagine if it's the exact same model as the Google store version, it shouldn't be hard to get it unlocked by 3rd party means. I'm just waiting on full confirmation before I make my purchase.
Thanks for the video.
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Now I'm not the most savy on bootloaders, more just an open source dev. But the nexus 6 I got from a verizon store had a locked boot loader. The nexus 6p I had for a short time had a locked boot loader. But they were unlocked fairly easily. From what I have always seem every phone had a locked boot loader that requires it to be unlocked to allow access and write to protected partitions. But the issue that I know is when in gets encrypted is when the issue arises. Without getting the verizon models in hand by a dev, we don't currently know if it is encrypted yet, or has this already been discovered? I highly doubt any verizon rep on the phone or on a chat will know the answer to that question. I believe the htc 10 on verizon has an encrypted bootloader, but it also had the htc bootloader, I assume the pixel is going to have the google boot loader. I just personally wanted to clarify it for my self if my understanding is correct, from someone who has a better grasp on this.
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Don't even bother calling Verizon to ask. They will emphatically say "yes it absolutely comes unlocked!" In reality they are referring to the carrier lock, not bootloader. They have no clue on bootloaders.
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