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I have a Galaxy S3 and I'm looking at the HTC One as an upgrade. However, not being able to root is a deal breaker for me (i am already struggling with being unable to swap batteries). I hate to ask such a newbie question, but I can't seem to figure out the answer from my initial search of the forums. Looks like the latest firmware locks the phone down. Is that correct?
Thanks for the help!
I don't know Verizon 's circumstances but every other one is root available 100%
a box of kittens said:
I don't know Verizon 's circumstances but every other one is root available 100%
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I am actually on VZ, but I can't imagine them doing anything unique. Thanks!
Go to the General forum. The entire thing is the community discussing how this phone is locked down. Verizon forced HTC to block VZW Ones from bootloader unlocking via HTCdev.
The dev community is working on it, though, and there's at least one user offering a send-away unlocking service.
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Sisren said:
I am actually on VZ, but I can't imagine them doing anything unique. Thanks!
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you haven't been on verizon very long, have you?
Anyone who can answer this for me? Didn't see any other threads for it.
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
Anyone who can answer this for me? Didn't see any other threads for it.
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Not yet but it's being worked on. Read starting from here.
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Not yet but it's being worked on. Read starting from here.
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Oh sh**, so do you think there will most definitely be a BL unlock in the coming weeks/months? By looks of that I can definitely say yes to root, but BL looks pretty solid too.
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
Oh sh**, so do you think there will most definitely be a BL unlock in the coming weeks/months? By looks of that I can definitely say yes to root, but BL looks pretty solid too.
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I can't answer that one, only time will tell. I came from Samsung so I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to bootloader unlocking. I would love to see it though.
Misterxtc said:
I can't answer that one, only time will tell. I came from Samsung so I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to bootloader unlocking. I would love to see it though.
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I'd be coming from Samsung too then, have a S6 and the battery bug has totally ruined it for me. I also have a $520 offer out on a G4 brand new in box right now, keeping my fingers crossed its accepted before someone else buys it haha. The root + potential of a BL unlock on the way definitely gave me the extra push I needed besides SD card and extra batteries!
I don't think any of the LGs ever were Bootloader unlocked. ALTHOUGH we just used hacks to bypass the lock and install a custom recovery. I had a Verizon G2 and rooting was pretty straight up, but Lollipop is a tough cookie to crack.
Fortunately the Stock LG roms are pretty slim and work very well. I used Stock LG on the G2 the entire 2 years. It was just super stable and had features that you couldn't find anywhere else.
No Root or BL access as of yet. All of our Devs have Root Access, it is just a matter of them attempting to package it in a safe and noob friendly process before the gen. population gets their hands on it, so just be patient and remember, Rome was not built in a day.
Its been like almost 4 months since this phone was out and still no success? What could be taking so long? Also i have this version just incase i missed out on something
Evnul000 said:
Its been like almost 4 months since this phone was out and still no success? What could be taking so long? Also i have this version just incase i missed out on something
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If you have the H815 EUR, that variant is unlockable officially
Evnul000 said:
Its been like almost 4 months since this phone was out and still no success? What could be taking so long? Also i have this version just incase i missed out on something
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We've all been waiting for you to come up with a solution. Are you telling us now that you're just waiting as well?
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If you have the H815 EUR, that variant is unlockable officially
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I actually did try with my one and it said it doesnt support the US variant and I thought it was the European version.
Really!!???
First people were complaining about how long root was taking and started saying it's never going to come out. Then it ends up coming out 1 month earlier than it did with the G3.
Now bootloader. Patience!!!
Devs don't get paid for this stuff, lot of them do it on their own spare time.
Week and a half until the Moto X Pure, and LG Nexus 5 (2015) probably won't be too far behind.
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Week and a half until the Moto X Pure, and LG Nexus 5 (2015) probably won't be too far behind.
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spartan268 said:
Really!!???
First people were complaining about how long root was taking and started saying it's never going to come out. Then it ends up coming out 1 month earlier than it did with the G3.
Now bootloader. Patience!!!
Devs don't get paid for this stuff, lot of them do it on their own spare time.
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spotmark said:
Week and a half until the Moto X Pure, and LG Nexus 5 (2015) probably won't be too far behind.
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$399 for pure. So tempting!
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spartan268 said:
Really!!???
First people were complaining about how long root was taking and started saying it's never going to come out. Then it ends up coming out 1 month earlier than it did with the G3.
Now bootloader. Patience!!!
Devs don't get paid for this stuff, lot of them do it on their own spare time.
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I know it's not the case for all devs, but some of them make really good money doing this in their spare time.
Honestly I don't think the G4 is that popular which won't attract that many talented devs that can decode LG's security boot encription. Those who can crack the code probaby don't sit around playing with cell phones anyways.
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spotmark said:
Week and a half until the Moto X Pure, and LG Nexus 5 (2015) probably won't be too far behind.
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Left the nexus 6 for this device and while it's a great phone just doesn't compare to a nexus device. I'm going back once the new devices come out
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I know it's not the case for all devs, but some of them make really good money doing this in their spare time.
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Are you paying them for this???
Could always learn to do it yourself[emoji33]
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I know it's not the case for all devs, but some of them make really good money doing this in their spare time.
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Trust me, 99,99% of us don't.
dspcap said:
I know it's not the case for all devs, but some of them make really good money doing this in their spare time.
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Any evidence to back up your claims?
Then define "really good money" as both a lump sum for say unlocking a boot loader and for payment per hour as that may mean something different to you than other people.
To be honest depending on how valuable your time is, it may be cheaper to purchase a EUR open LG G4...I'm tempted to do so and give my TWN version to my GF who wouldn't need things like root or unlocked boot loaders...but also need to see if it's worth it. Currently there is only one custom kernel, and I'm not that interested in that, and honestly that's the only thing I'd use the unlocked boot loader for.
Before this gets out of control, let me just say that none of the LG bootloaders on previous models were ever unlocked. The G2 was pretty popular and still has a locked bootloader. I haven't even heard of any recent LG devices to get unlocked bootloaders and very surprised that the G4 international variant even has this option.
So the question "why don't we have unlocked bootloaders" is an unrealitic question based on prior history.
The REAL question, would be "now that we have root, is there any discussion or development in having a custom recovery or bootloader bypass?"
I also want to ADD that NONE of the LOLLIPOP firmwares have been hacked (as far as I know). Both the G2 and G3 required to use a KitKat aboot partition setup that allowed us to install custom recoveries and such.
Personally, if I were a developer, I would delay the release a week for every one of these posts found for the phone Im unlocking the bootloader for.
Id even make a notice when a post like this would pop up, showing proof that Im delaying the unlocked bootloader release, just to piss off the impatient people, which, typically, are the ones least capable of doing it themselves.
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Personally, if I were a developer, I would delay the release a week for every one of these posts found for the phone Im unlocking the bootloader for.
Id even make a notice when a post like this would pop up, showing proof that Im delaying the unlocked bootloader release, just to piss off the impatient people, which, typically, are the ones least capable of doing it themselves.
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HOW DO YOU KNOW MY NAME?! Are you some sort of wizard?!
megamanfre said:
HOW DO YOU KNOW MY NAME?! Are you some sort of wizard?!
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LOL
mythos234 said:
If you have the H815 EUR, that variant is unlockable officially
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Isn't the H811 unlockable too?
I think one of the best things that we all love about android is ability to change your phone and add what you want via root. My question is this, if the future of android is to lock all bootloaders, why should we stay with android and not get an I phone? If I can't get viper4android I'm not sure if I'm gonna stay with android. What are your thoughts?
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I think one of the best things that we all love about android is ability to change your phone and add what you want via root. My question is this, if the future of android is to lock all bootloaders, why should we stay with android and not get an I phone? If I can't get viper4android I'm not sure if I'm gonna stay with android. What are your thoughts?
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if v4a is all you want for android then get iphone h8r
BaconSeeds said:
if v4a is all you want for android then get iphone h8r
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A h8r wouldn't have android for the last 6 years...smh
There are only 2 types of Android customizers, people who can customize without root and bad customizers
If u really like a locked down device get an iphone. Last jailbreak took 11 months to get. Stock icons sucks on ios. At least u have options with android without root.
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I think one of the best things that we all love about android is ability to change your phone and add what you want via root. My question is this, if the future of android is to lock all bootloaders, why should we stay with android and not get an I phone? If I can't get viper4android I'm not sure if I'm gonna stay with android. What are your thoughts?
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Because an iPhone is more locked down than an Android. It would be really dumb to downgrade to iOS just because your Android has a locked bootloader... That's just like replacing your gaming PC with a cheap Android tablet just because you don't like the new Ubuntu update.
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chronos7 said:
I think one of the best things that we all love about android is ability to change your phone and add what you want via root. My question is this, if the future of android is to lock all bootloaders, why should we stay with android and not get an I phone? If I can't get viper4android I'm not sure if I'm gonna stay with android. What are your thoughts?
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Where did you see that the bootloader is locked?
So far, only the VZW carrier version is confirmed to be locked.
cmason37 said:
Because an iPhone is more locked down than an Android. It would be really dumb to downgrade to iOS just because your Android has a locked bootloader... That's just like replacing your gaming PC with a cheap Android tablet just because you don't like the new Ubuntu update.
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Everyone that has a iPhone isn't dumb. It's not about which OS is the best because they both have their plus and minus. The thing is that android is starting to lock their phones down just like Apple. The options that we all love about android are starting to fade (bootloader, removable battery, sd card). So if this keeps going on, android will be very similar to Apple, which is something none of us want.
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Where did you see that the bootloader is locked?
So far, only the VZW carrier version is confirmed to be locked.
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We won't know until someone gets the phone in their hands. Verizon is definitely locked, but phones bought from Google may not be locked.
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Everyone that has a iPhone isn't dumb. It's not about which OS is the best because they both have their plus and minus. The thing is that android is starting to lock their phones down just like Apple. The options that we all love about android are starting to fade (bootloader, removable battery, sd card). So if this keeps going on, android will be very similar to Apple, which is something none of us want.
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I didn't *say* anything about the intelligence of Apple users, nor did I really talk crap about iOS. All I said was switching to an OS which is *even more* locked down, just because the bootloader is locked, is a dumb decision. Like, you're angry that Android is locked down, so in retaliation you switch to something more locked down. Really??
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I didn't *say* anything about the intelligence of Apple users, nor did I really talk crap about iOS. All I said was switching to an OS which is *even more* locked down, just because the bootloader is locked, is a dumb decision. Like, you're angry that Android is locked down, so in retaliation you switch to something more locked down. Really??
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If they're both locked down more people will move to whichever OS they like because they are becoming more and more similar. You're dumd if you think that's not going to happen for whatever reason that a person chooses is best for them, and not what you think is the best decision. Wow!!!
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If they're both locked down more people will move to whichever OS they like because they are becoming more and more similar. You're dumd if you think that's not going to happen for whatever reason that a person chooses is best for them, and not what you think is the best decision. Wow!!!
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I don't understand the broken grammar in the second sentence.
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cmason37 said:
I don't understand the broken grammar in the second sentence.
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Lol, you probably wouldn't. Go and troll somewhere else.
chronos7 said:
Lol, you probably wouldn't. Go and troll somewhere else.
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Lol how was I trolling? Don't get angry at me cause you don't know how to speak proper English.
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Folks, cut it out. This conversion can't be constructive and inflammatory at the same time. Please be respectful and let's have a mature discussion about this.
That being said, I thought I saw someone who said they got in touch with a Google rep who said the bootloader will unlocked, at least from the Play Store. Take it with a grain of salt, since not all manufacturers' reps know the difference between a bootloader and carrier locks, but this is Google we're talking about.
Now I'm not the most savy on bootloaders, more just an open source dev. But the nexus 6 I got from a verizon store had a locked boot loader. The nexus 6p I had for a short time had a locked boot loader. But they were unlocked fairly easily. From what I have always seem every phone had a locked boot loader that requires it to be unlocked to allow access and write to protected partitions. But the issue that I know is when in gets encrypted is when the issue arises. Without getting the verizon models in hand by a dev, we don't currently know if it is encrypted yet, or has this already been discovered? I highly doubt any verizon rep on the phone or on a chat will know the answer to that question. I believe the htc 10 on verizon has an encrypted bootloader, but it also had the htc bootloader, I assume the pixel is going to have the google boot loader. I just personally wanted to clarify it for my self if my understanding is correct, from someone who has a better grasp on this.
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I'm really hoping it's unlocked because I want this phone, but the note 7 has got me weary.
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We won't know until someone gets the phone in their hands. Verizon is definitely locked, but phones bought from Google may not be locked.
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This Youtube unboxing shows an unlocked bootloader.
anarchos said:
This Youtube unboxing shows an unlocked bootloader.
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The fact that this guy has the phone already makes me think he's unique. Possibly a developer that 1) already unlocked it and just put everything back in just to do an unboxing video or 2) it came that way to him since he is or may be a developer or reviewer.
Either way it's promising that it can be unlocked. All the Nexus phones came locked but were easily unlocked. The Verizon one worries me, but I imagine if it's the exact same model as the Google store version, it shouldn't be hard to get it unlocked by 3rd party means. I'm just waiting on full confirmation before I make my purchase.
Thanks for the video.
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Now I'm not the most savy on bootloaders, more just an open source dev. But the nexus 6 I got from a verizon store had a locked boot loader. The nexus 6p I had for a short time had a locked boot loader. But they were unlocked fairly easily. From what I have always seem every phone had a locked boot loader that requires it to be unlocked to allow access and write to protected partitions. But the issue that I know is when in gets encrypted is when the issue arises. Without getting the verizon models in hand by a dev, we don't currently know if it is encrypted yet, or has this already been discovered? I highly doubt any verizon rep on the phone or on a chat will know the answer to that question. I believe the htc 10 on verizon has an encrypted bootloader, but it also had the htc bootloader, I assume the pixel is going to have the google boot loader. I just personally wanted to clarify it for my self if my understanding is correct, from someone who has a better grasp on this.
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Don't even bother calling Verizon to ask. They will emphatically say "yes it absolutely comes unlocked!" In reality they are referring to the carrier lock, not bootloader. They have no clue on bootloaders.
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Like can the t-mobile,Att or Verizon version of the devices be rooted. Thanks In advance!!!
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GDane1 said:
All of the U.S. Samsung Galaxy S20+ devices will all have locked bootloaders just like all of the other U.S branded Samsung devices so this device will never ever be able to be rooted correct.so if I want to do any rooting I need to buy a international version right? Thanks In advance!!!
You answered your own question, lol.
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GDane1 said:
All of the U.S. Samsung Galaxy S20+ devices will all have locked bootloaders just like all of the other U.S branded Samsung devices so this device will never ever be able to be rooted correct.so if I want to do any rooting I need to buy a international version right? Thanks In advance!!!
You answered your own question, lol.
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So basically they are still locking down all the bootloaders correct that sucks why would you pay so much for your device when you get rid of it makes no sense.
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The phone works wonderfully for me. Haven't missed root in 3-4 years now.
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tdevaughn said:
The phone works wonderfully for me. Haven't missed root in 3-4 years now.
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Im with you , I always rooted my devices since I had a G1 (HTC Dream). Since Pie was released, and custom launchers are so good these days, I haven't bothered with any of my devices
....I do miss being able to remove system apps though (truly remove them) ahhh memories of the days when CyanogenMod was what a person would do immediately after getting a new device ....
I don't miss the headaches , the bugs, the constant flashing new roms, the constant clockworkmod/TWRP backups and restores ...
Android is now so polished that I honestly see no need for root anymore
The only need for root I have is getting my Proxmark to work with my phone.
I miss gravity box that's it
root is so much funner though lol
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root is so much funner though lol
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Why do you get bragging that you have root access? Does it make you feel superior... This is a wonderful forum for people who love Root and you're simply just rubbing it in people's faces. I just don't get it!
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Why do you get bragging that you have root access? Does it make you feel superior... This is a wonderful forum for people who love Root and you're simply just rubbing it in people's faces. I just don't get it!
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what r u talking about?
the conversation was about root and ppl were sharing they dont really need root and i said root is fun.. no bragging about anything..
instead of criticizing others opinions if you want root so bad just have a look around and you can achieve the same thing..
theres many others rooted at this point.. theres been a xda feed/article posted by another user who rooted his usa n20 then theres multiple twrp threads of users who rooted their usa model s10s s20s n20s n10s..theres even an app in labs to help u figure it out.. why ppl cant read or search before complaining, i just dont get it!
i think is root
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what r u talking about?
the conversation was about root and ppl were sharing they dont really need root and i said root is fun.. no bragging about anything..
instead of criticizing others opinions if you want root so bad just have a look around and you can achieve the same thing..
theres many others rooted at this point.. theres been a xda feed/article posted by another user who rooted his usa n20 then theres multiple twrp threads of users who rooted their usa model s10s s20s n20s n10s..theres even an app in labs to help u figure it out.. why ppl cant read or search before complaining, i just dont get it!
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Trying to find those threads to root USA s20. Next time, will buy a Korean version.
nomad247 said:
Trying to find those threads to root USA s20. Next time, will buy a Korean version.
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Here's the URL for root on US S20 variants.
Samsung Development | SamPWND
Unlock your bootloader on USA Model Samsung Galaxy devices! Visit https://www.sampwnd.com and have the SamPWND team help you!
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Here's the URL for root on US S20 variants.
Samsung Development | SamPWND
Unlock your bootloader on USA Model Samsung Galaxy devices! Visit https://www.sampwnd.com and have the SamPWND team help you!
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Is this still the only way to root on the U.S. variants? I have seen this floating around for some time and while I have nothing but respect for the developer of this method, I have never paid for unlocking or root and don't want to begin. I would like root, but my desire is not so strong so as to pay $100 to obtain it.
My last rooting experience was with the ENG kernel on my S7 Edge. It sucked. LOL. I know what you've linked isn't a root service but an unlock, however after growing tired of the instability with the ENG kernel I eventually went stock. So now I've been without root for a couple years and have learned to live with it, which is why I don't really want to pay. If that's the only way, though, so be it.
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Is this still the only way to root on the U.S. variants? I have seen this floating around for some time and while I have nothing but respect for the developer of this method, I have never paid for unlocking or root and don't want to begin. I would like root, but my desire is not so strong so as to pay $100 to obtain it.
My last rooting experience was with the ENG kernel on my S7 Edge. It sucked. LOL. I know what you've linked isn't a root service but an unlock, however after growing tired of the instability with the ENG kernel I eventually went stock. So now I've been without root for a couple years and have learned to live with it, which is why I don't really want to pay. If that's the only way, though, so be it.
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unfortunately its the only way at this time.
nyr2k2 said:
Is this still the only way to root on the U.S. variants? I have seen this floating around for some time and while I have nothing but respect for the developer of this method, I have never paid for unlocking or root and don't want to begin. I would like root, but my desire is not so strong so as to pay $100 to obtain it.
My last rooting experience was with the ENG kernel on my S7 Edge. It sucked. LOL. I know what you've linked isn't a root service but an unlock, however after growing tired of the instability with the ENG kernel I eventually went stock. So now I've been without root for a couple years and have learned to live with it, which is why I don't really want to pay. If that's the only way, though, so be it.
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So why aquire a device with a locked bootloader? There's lots of options for unlocked bootloaders even within Galaxy devices.
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So why aquire a device with a locked bootloader? There's lots of options for unlocked bootloaders even within Galaxy devices.
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he will probably say he didn't know i.e. didn't research before hand lol
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So why aquire a device with a locked bootloader? There's lots of options for unlocked bootloaders even within Galaxy devices.
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Any recent Samsung devices that can be bought in the US?
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Any recent Samsung devices that can be bought in the US?
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All of them? Samsung releases every model/device in the USA lol.. not sure what your question is.. U U1 W models are usually not possible to unlock bl and root without paid service so if you are asking about USA models that can do that by default then I cant think of any.