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Hi all developers!
One thing I have thought about for a while is, why do you upload ROMs and other files to uploading sites like Rapidshare? For me who doesn't have a Rapidshare Premium account this means a lot of waiting.
Just thinking, why not create a torrent of the files? I suppose 99% of everyone here has a torrent client, and if not, uTorrent is not that hard to install .
This would also help the speeds alot, I would at least happily help you seed the files here on my 100/100 fibre connection.
Just some thoughts..
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Also I would like to say thanks to all you developers, you do a great job!
Because downloading torrents to phone would be harder than just downloading the files from a FTP or a hosting site!
Just my opinion...
i think thats a good idea!
hate rapidshare n all those sites.....most of the time i download the file on my computer anyway n then transfer it to my sd...
BlackLine7 said:
Because downloading torrents to phone would be harder than just downloading the files from a FTP or a hosting site!
Just my opinion...
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This. I personally download ROM's straight to my phone, unless I can be arsed to edit them first. The wait of 40 seconds to download a file is nothing really. Plus using the author's Rapidshare accounts could actually benefit them.
diego4t said:
i think thats a good idea!
hate rapidshare n all those sites.....most of the time i download the file on my computer anyway n then transfer it to my sd...
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Yea same here, never thought about downloading to the phone directly tbh. So much easier to do on the computer .
Still, why not use both? The torrent would at least be a great mirror.
It would be really show for the first few people downloading the file, then a lot of people would just download the torrent and not upload anything so it would end up downloading at the upload speed of the creator
Plus it means a lot more uploading
donald-c said:
It would be really show for the first few people downloading the file, then a lot of people would just download the torrent and not upload anything so it would end up downloading at the upload speed of the creator
Plus it means a lot more uploading
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QFT!
Also not all developers have huge upload speed
why not create a DC++ hub?
those were the days...
donald-c said:
It would be really show for the first few people downloading the file, then a lot of people would just download the torrent and not upload anything so it would end up downloading at the upload speed of the creator
Plus it means a lot more uploading
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Well thats just bad behaviour by the leechers then...
The good thing with torrents is that the developer don't have to seed at all, just provide the .torrent. Then someone who downloaded it elsewhere can seed it for him (or her.. ). Like I said, I can provide 100 mbit/s up speed at my home and I am sure a lot of other users here would help out too
To be fair, it's a lot of hassle for developers to set it up on a tracker to just get downloads.
File hosts like RapidShare and MediaFire etc, you're always going to get a good download speed so what difference does waiting 30-40 seconds make?
dnlgee said:
To be fair, it's a lot of hassle for developers to set it up on a tracker to just get downloads.
File hosts like RapidShare and MediaFire etc, you're always going to get a good download speed so what difference does waiting 30-40 seconds make?
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Hehe, I'm maxing out like 100-200 KB/s from Rapidshare and nearly 12 MB/s using torrents...
I'm sorry but I can't see the problem, it is definetly not more work to create a .torrent file (just use a public tracker). The .torrent file is so small that it won't be a problem to host it somewhere, maybe even directly on the forum.
mercianary said:
why not create a DC++ hub?
those were the days...
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Cause that would mean a lot of people just downloading from the developer. With a .torrent you could spread out the files in a much better way and distribute the bandwidth.
But like I said, these are just mine $(2*10^-2)...
ginux_ said:
Hi all developers!
One thing I have thought about for a while is, why do you upload ROMs and other files to uploading sites like Rapidshare? For me who doesn't have a Rapidshare Premium account this means a lot of waiting.
Just thinking, why not create a torrent of the files? I suppose 99% of everyone here has a torrent client, and if not, uTorrent is not that hard to install .
This would also help the speeds alot, I would at least happily help you seed the files here on my 100/100 fibre connection.
Just some thoughts..
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Also I would like to say thanks to all you developers, you do a great job!
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Torrent programs are usually banned from work computers.. I use a work laptop as my primary machine, so I wouldn't be able to get those..
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why not create a DC++ hub?
those were the days...
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And still are. Still have a few pvt hubs I'm in for audio stuff
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johnnychimpo said:
And still are. Still have a few pvt hubs I'm in for audio stuff
Sent from my PC36100
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i'd ask for an invite but im a leech!
BlackLine7 said:
QFT!
Also not all developers have huge upload speed
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Wouldn't matter, first upload the torrent to a (few) seedbox(es) (community will happily provide these I suppose). Once its done, turbo speed for everyone.
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To be fair, it's a lot of hassle for developers to set it up on a tracker to just get downloads.
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http://openbittorrent.com/
ChaosR said:
Wouldn't matter, first upload the torrent to a (few) seedbox(es) (community will happily provide these I suppose). Once its done, turbo speed for everyone.
"openbittorrent"
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Thanks, both these things are what I was thinking about
I have a computer in a wardrobe working only as file/torrent server so there is at least one seed box for the community.
I am a new member so I had to delete the link from your post, dough.
Well - back up a few months i tried to do exactly that. I seeded the Villain files until 4-5 had it, and because every one else's connection was better than mine ppl didnt download from me anymore - and speed would pick up on the file across P2P
I used uTorrent and created the torrent from within that program and uploaded the torrent to my own website - worked a charm once i had all the settings right...
i think it's a good idea - if not then as a mirror for the RS and Mediafire websites...
Once a couple of 100 mbit upload has gotten hold of the file it will be fast!!!
Smirge
Aren't you guys jumping the gun a bit on this? How about selecting another provider? Rarhost, dropbox, Adrive.com are other free alternatives Ive used in the past.
Or even Google Sites/Code/Doc etc
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Aren't you guys jumping the gun a bit on this? How about selecting another provider? Rarhost, dropbox, Adrive.com are other free alternatives Ive used in the past.
Or even Google Sites/Code/Doc etc
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Maybe we are
Just thought that torrents has some benefits and could be considered... Nice to hear all your opinions
Wuala can be a good alternative to rapidshare or megaupload, it has 2GB for free, or you can share your HD free space for add free space to your account on Wuala. Also can be possible do a groups for sharing, on HTCMania we have created one for files for HTC Desire and another for APKs
http://www.wuala.com/HTC_Desire
http://www.wuala.com/APKs_Android
Everyone can access from web, or using Wuala client using Windows/Linux/Mac and with notifications for new files added.
Hey all developers
I'v started a small site which i hope will grow fast
I'm offering all developers free hosting for your ROM's on my server.
romn****.info.
I got several developers interested and signed up already and im working on better design at the moment.
It has high speed and unlimited bandwidth and lots of storage.
All developers has unlimited storage so no worries about that.
Any interest?
Send me a pm
ask questions here and let me know what you think of this in this topic??
what about using dropbox?
it's site with 2G free space which easly could be used as exchange box for developers, like for usual users...
nice feature is direct downloading to sd card in android client, so you don't have to download rom with desktop browser and then send it to phone download, reboot to rescue, flash, be happy
try my referral link https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTcwMTc5NDA5 which would add me some space above that 2G for free
I'm just offering a service
Its good speed, lots of storage, not limited as dropbox is.
And i offer own personal website for each developer if they want.
And im trying to have many roms at one place.
jell said:
what about using dropbox?
it's site with 2G free space which easly could be used as exchange box for developers, like for usual users...
nice feature is direct downloading to sd card in android client, so you don't have to download rom with desktop browser and then send it to phone download, reboot to rescue, flash, be happy
try my referral link https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTcwMTc5NDA5 which would add me some space above that 2G for free
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Dropbox has issues when you have a lot of people using your public links, which I had through only hosting a little radio ROM.
God knows how they'd cope with me hosting ROMs there. I might upload a few and see
But a good and generous offer from the OP
anon2122 said:
Dropbox has issues when you have a lot of people using your public links, which I had through only hosting a little radio ROM.
God knows how they'd cope with me hosting ROMs there. I might upload a few and see
But a good and generous offer from the OP
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Thx anon2122
And if developers need domain hosting i can help out with this to so.
IPv6 support & ROM torrents?
Getting IPv6 support for your site & creating torrents of ROMs may certainly help you with site performance & creating a niche for yourself.
we are looking into this and we will see what happens
A cautionary note...
If sites like this proposed ROM hosting site do proliferate it will become even more important for all ROM releases to have an MD5 sum posted in a place other than on the ROM hosting site.
It is not beyond imagination that phone software could be maliciously compromised at source. Then where would we all be?
But, to be clear, I cast no aspersions on this particular cove making this current hosting offer.
croques said:
If sites like this proposed ROM hosting site do proliferate it will become even more important for all ROM releases to have an MD5 sum posted in a place other than on the ROM hosting site.
It is not beyond imagination that phone software could be maliciously compromised at source. Then where would we all be?
But, to be clear, I cast no aspersions on this particular cove making this current hosting offer.
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That is in fact very true, and should be done on all occasions for any ROM release. Passwords get cracked, hosting sites get compromised etc. so it's a good idea
I have an auto md5 script somewhere I use on villainrom.co.uk, and i dont think it was too hard to make. Maybe these should be used more often
I believe the main obstacle is to establish a secure and reliable repository for the ROM checksums. If that will be available, I don't think responsible ROM developers will have problems with using it, one by one - especially if the more popular ROMs will join the effort.
Working with Pulser and should atleast have the function added by the end of the day.
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We are currently working on a custom ROM kitchen for most ROMs and will try to add as many ROMs to it as we can, you can add what applications you want and such.
There's non so blind as those that can't see...
l1nuxfre4k said:
We are currently working on a custom ROM kitchen for most ROMs and will try to add as many ROMs to it as we can, you can add what applications you want and such.
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.... meanwhile you've made no response to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719113#8
Just how are you going to ensure the security and integrity of ROMs entrusted to you? How am I, as a punter, going to know whether your site is to be trusted or if someone on your site, (or from outside even) has tampered with the ROM I'm downloading?
You cannot ignore these issues and just hope they'll go away. Just how are you going to manage the risks? Tell us please!
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.... meanwhile you've made no response to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719113#8
Just how are you going to ensure the security and integrity of ROMs entrusted to you? How am I, as a punter, going to know whether your site is to be trusted or if someone on your site, (or from outside even) has tampered with the ROM I'm downloading?
You cannot ignore these issues and just hope they'll go away. Just how are you going to manage the risks? Tell us please!
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I did NOT ignore that issue
i answered the following
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Working with Pulser and should atleast have the function added by the end of the day.
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As pulser send me the script i will implent this in the final version of the site
ticho said:
I believe the main obstacle is to establish a secure and reliable repository for the ROM checksums. If that will be available, I don't think responsible ROM developers will have problems with using it, one by one - especially if the more popular ROMs will join the effort.
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Had an idea or two, which I am looking into soon
It would be totally external to this site. I am looking into encryption stuff just now
Just my two cents;
On Villainrom.co.uk we already run md5 checks when we push out files, and we sync the mirrors often, and it will check each file when it does. Any files that does not match the one we have locally will be deleted and reuploaded.
For complete control its important that people check the md5sums. This will not only let them know they got the correct rom but also that their download was not corrupted.
One thing we are looking into is a rom downloader. We would distribute a small .exe file that would download the rom from our mirrors and then verify the downloaded file against the sha1/md5 we have on file, before making the file available to the user. This would be optional.
Btw there is an inherent risk in installing custom roms in the first place.
One thing also that would work is to make a updated list in a thread with checksums for current ROMs so its easy to check here.
l1nuxfre4k said:
I did NOT ignore that issue
As pulser send me the script i will implent [sic] this in the final version of the site
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Oh that what it was about was it?
But you having a script on the backend of your site to allow you to compute and display checksums won't work for me.
anon2122 said:
It would be totally external to this site. I am looking into encryption stuff just now
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But that could work.
mcduck1 said:
On Villainrom.co.uk we already run md5 checks when we push out files, and we sync the mirrors often, and it will check each file when it does. Any files that does not match the one we have locally will be deleted and reuploaded.
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Mmm.... That's what the policy on paper might be... the actuality is a bit different. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715728&page=6#60 And the question was raised by someone else on the villain site without much response.
l1nuxfre4k said:
One thing also that would work is to make a updated list in a thread with checksums for current ROMs so its easy to check here.
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And what's to stop the thread being edited? Look, you probably see me as a nuisance just making trouble for you. I assure you I'm not. If you want a workable business to provide income - and I guess that's your motivation for this - you need to think long and hard about security. Maybe Androids are 'safe' right now... but next week or next month? It won't be long before the bad guys are seeking to look over my shoulder when I use my Android to check my bank account or make a flight booking with my credit card. At the moment I 'trust' developers with a track record in this forum and assume that released ROMs are pulled apart and scrutinized by other teams. That aids my security.
With your planned site, a ROM could be released, scrutinized by other developers on release, but a week later altered by someone adding some malevolent code to the ROM. If I can imagine it then someone is probably planning to do it!
croques said:
Oh that what it was about was it?
But you having a script on the backend of your site to allow you to compute and display checksums won't work for me.
But that could work.
Mmm.... That's what the policy on paper might be... the actuality is a bit different. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715728&page=6#60 And the question was raised by someone else on the villain site without much response.
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I'm pretty sure that one was addressed somewhere. I can't remember where, but I remember seeing that the file was updated since there was a fix shortly after release.
But I'm thinking of something better than just a script on the site. I'm talking about a public-key verifiable list of MD5 sums. Need to look into it a bit more.
But TBH I think a bit much emphasis is being placed on this. I work in IT security, and have to say that whilse caution is always good, really the only way to be safe is to make the ROM yourself, compiled from AOSP, and sift each line of source code manually.
But yeah, all OTA updates ARE md5'd and issued, as mcduck actually made that code
I'm embedding this for releases too soon
Update 5/28 noon 30
I am uploading right now, however I never thought that I should create an uploading directory until today. That way if I am uploading files like I am now, someone doesnt start downloading and they get a bad file. So with the exception of what I am doing now, from now on anything I upload will go into a temp dir then I will transfer to its proper place.
I am going to work on an FTP for anon uploading, give me some time, I am concerned about Malware, trojens, and other malicious acts by people on the web, I want this to be a safe place for all Android users to access files for their devices.
I am also considering adding 3-5 more devices to the mirror, but I would need to get the Anon FTP up first, my upload speeds suck so damn bad.
Also, I might just add that Wiki that droid512 suggested, and let whomever has more time and knowledge admin it. 2 kids, broken back, severely damaged arms/hands and being on pain meds ALL the time screws up my ability to jump on the puter and help out.
Jim
Link to Mirror
Open Directory is enabled.
http://www.blackmugmedia.com/Android/GT/Mirror/
Update 5/25 11pm
Open directory browsing is enabled for www.blackmugmedia.com/Android/ I figured it would be alot easier to be able to go through the different directories and locate any file you may need.
I am still uploading, my home connection sucks, 768 up.
Right now I am setting up my server hosted on fatcow with a mirror of all gtab roms, kernals, stock recovery, etc. Organized in directories for GSM, cdma, and wifi.
I would like to enable anonymous uploading, however....I am a security freak, so for right now ill upload everything I have for my cdma Verizon tab, then start downloading GSM and wifi files to place on the server.
If you are a Dev and want your project mirrored, send me a pm with a link and ill grab it and upload it.
I will update this post with links to the directories a little later today when I have enough stuff uploaded.
Effective today....these files will stay for the next 3 years.
If I can find a way to allow anonymous uploading and still have high security, I will update this post.
Mods, feel free to sticky if you like
Jim
Link to Mirror
Open Directory is enabled.
http://www.blackmugmedia.com/Android/GT/Mirror/
I am uploading and still creating the remaining Directories. As I am web retarded, you cant browse contents yet, but that.......will happen.
Link to Mirror
Open Directory is enabled.
http://www.blackmugmedia.com/Android/GT/Mirror/
Sticky vote
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Why dont you install a hosting/upload script and then create user accounts for devs who wish to use the service.
TheATHEiST said:
Why dont you install a hosting/upload script and then create user accounts for devs who wish to use the service.
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Ok look buddy, all that **** went over my head like a 747. ha ha, yeah. Web stuff, I dont get it.
However...I was going to give Devs FTP accounts like I did for Spacemoose, but I posted it in the "General" section and I dont think it was seen by any devs.
So, tell you what, if you care to, give me a call, help me get what you suggested a go, and mabe make it a little easier? I dunno. All I know is I dont have money I can spare to donate, but I do have 3 years of hosting paid up and my domains attached to the server, so......I figured it would help alot.
Oh, updated OP with links/structure... etc.
Well tbh im not really an expert in hosting. If I want a website I just get a webhost with Cpanel etc then upload the script I want to use/configure/install it.
I wouldnt really know bets place to start on a raw dedicated server or VPS as im more a windows guy and bets software like cpanel etc is linux based afaik.
Do you have any hosting software installed or is it just a raw server with OS? And how much traffic and bandwidth did you get with your 3 year hosting?
Im hosted through Fatcow. Ive had this hosting plan for the past few years, never really used it.
Its Linux, Cpanel, all set up. Really just need to familiarize myself with it again, as I haven't looked at it in 2 years.
Ive done 1 FTP account so far, takes like 2 minutes to do, spent time creating directories for the hosting of roms/kernals/recovery/apps, etc. Just slowly chipping away at uploading what I have, then I will start downloading files from this forum if they still exist, then put them up on the mirror.
Open directory is active now, figured it was the easiest option for people to scroll through.
So, I guess I started something that will probably end up being very big, as once the Tab is all uploaded, then I start on the Droid X, then I'll pick a device to start with. Hell, as far as I am concerned, Ill host a mirror and repository for all Android Devices.
I have unlimited bandwidth and space, I informed Fatcow of my intention, they thought it was cool, said I was ok and I started.
this is awesome man I appreciate it. i vote sticky but i also vote a vzw wiki since theres totally not enough stuff for cdma tabs
droid512 said:
this is awesome man I appreciate it. i vote sticky but i also vote a vzw wiki since theres totally not enough stuff for cdma tabs
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I was searching through some of the scripts fatcow offers me, well besides the chat room thing I installed just to make my wife laugh, but a wiki add on, so yeah, its possible if someone wants to admin it I can put it up.
If anyone feels the directory structure should be different than what I came up with, please feel free to jump in and say so. I'm not going to get all butt sore because the world of android users think that my gift could benifit from a better layout.
Also, I think I will indeed instal that wiki page, if a few of you more experienced uber nerds want to admin the wiki, shoot me an email or pm and ill get you set up. I would do it, but my entries would probably be lame, and wrong.
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Hey man,
Will you please upload modems i posted to your directory? Is it ok. I am just saying since you never know what free file hosting sites will do to your files. Just look at dropbox latest policy changes
I can certainly put the modems up. I was busy the past 2 days, decided to give Ubuntu 11.04 a spin, and was digging it so much I forgot to do other stuff. So ill get back to making directories and uploading today.
And what do you mean modems you posted to my directory?. Am I not fully awake yet?. I'm confused.
DarkPal said:
Hey man,
Will you please upload modems i posted to your directory? Is it ok. I am just saying since you never know what free file hosting sites will do to your files. Just look at dropbox latest policy changes
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Updated OP.
Mods, care to make this sticky?.
any way you can upload a update.zip for a "stock" verizon tab. I cant load mine from recovery, i get the ! when i try
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I can certainly put the modems up. I was busy the past 2 days, decided to give Ubuntu 11.04 a spin, and was digging it so much I forgot to do other stuff. So ill get back to making directories and uploading today.
And what do you mean modems you posted to my directory?. Am I not fully awake yet?. I'm confused.
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My modems are on mediafire. Its stickied to this forum. Since free file hosting are dodgy maybe you can put them up.
It is really sad because most links for not so old ROMs are DEAD. Most of them were stored on MegaUpload, which is totally dead.
Sincerely, I am really surprised that NO ONE of the ROM-masters bothers to create a torrent for their ROM. WHY? Don't you want your work to be alive and well?
I don't really know if it is permitted to publish here links to torrent files, but I think that torrent is a contemporary technology, and if used right is a huge improvement on WORK SHARE for those who has a talent in something worth.
Starting from this post I want to publish some link to torrent-files of ROMs, that were checked on real devices.
1. Aurora ROM v5: Aurora_v5.zip.torrent
(Now downloading the fresh v6, will release a torrent when it's done, the Hotfile.com gives only about 80kb/sec download)
Edit: Aurora_v6_SE.zip.torrent
2. RevolutioN v3.0: RevolutioN.xMas.Edition.v3.0.A2SD%2B-signed.zip.torrent
P.S.: And again my word for ROM-makers - if you want people to enjoy your work, it is in your hands. Give them a good link, an alive one.
Torrents always need a seed. As soon as the need for the Rom disappears, so do the seeds. Then its just a .torrent file pointing to an empty tracker
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rootSU said:
Torrents always need a seed. As soon as the need for the Rom disappears, so do the seeds. Then its just a .torrent file pointing to an empty tracker
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Is it very hard for ROM-maker to seed 5-6 versions, or the only last 2 versions of his work?
And, in the torrent files, when you create them, you may enter web-seeds, the direct link to the file on some server. Do someone need a hosting? I can host about 50 roms! And I can seed them at home as torrents. Is it something hard in our days?!
Revertron said:
Is it very hard for ROM-maker to seed 5-6 versions, or the only last 2 versions of his work?
And, in the torrent files, when you create them, you may enter web-seeds, the direct link to the file on some server. Do someone need a hosting? I can host about 50 roms! And I can seed them at home as torrents. Is it something hard in our days?!
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What, forever? Get a grip man!!!
..and why rely on technology that isps and work places treat as illegal and block / throttle. Ftp is the best way forward. Torrents are old hat. Didn't know.people still used.it ha ha
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Do you think, that relying on some slow and questionable upload sites is better?
This is about a week that I've decided to flash some new ROM on my wife's Desire, and I have been trying to download for some days! 99% of the links are dead!
If someone from ROM-masters want to host their ROMS on my server, welcome! I have about 20GB free and 1,5TB of bandwidth monthly. And I have an Internet at home, I can seed them. In our time it is possible, you know?
Why no one has proposed a help like this? Is it illegal somehow? Just think about Ubuntu and others - they give a torrent to the community.
P.S.: And if you have blocked torrents at work, or even at home (that is nonsence!) you always can use some online services, that download torrents for you and give you a direct link.
Thank you if you are willing to help developers host their roms. But developers would proactively update their download links if they really want to keep their work alive. If they don't then they probably moved on to something else or doesn't care at all or both.
They don't owe us anything for they do this thing on their own terms. They are grateful for every donation but that doesn't mean that they owe you support. It's a donation not a pay for service.
2cents.
stankyou said:
Thank you if you are willing to help developers host their roms. But developers would proactively update their download links if they really want to keep their work alive. If they don't then they probably moved on to something else or doesn't care at all or both.
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Just look there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268279
There is a new release of the ROM today, but it is on hotfile.com, that is giving only 50-70kb/s speed! It takes forever to download. Is it very hard for developer to make a torrent file and seed it? I understand that they don't owe me anything, but should the people choose the better way to distribute their work?
If that's what they can offer or if that's their preference then who am I to complain? I am just a leecher. Yes it would be a pain to download. I don't prefer torrents tbh and I can also go and say "Is it very hard for developer to make upload this to mediafire hotfile?"
stankyou said:
If that's what they can offer or if that's their preference then who am I to complain? I am just a leecher. Yes it would be a pain to download. I don't prefer torrents tbh and I can also go and say "Is it very hard for developer to make upload this to mediafire hotfile?"
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Is it hard for someone else make a torrent? Is it hard to mention it in the topic?
I am willing to help in that manner, why others do not?
Well no one is stopping you from helping them out in that department and I bet the devs would appreciate it.
As for me, I still prefer file hosting sites as with the majority of people here I guess. I really don't wanna go and install a torrent client on my laptop anyway.
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Well no one is stopping you from helping them out in that department and I bet the devs would appreciate it.
As for me, I still prefer file hosting sites as with the majority of people here I guess. I really don't wanna go and install a torrent client on my laptop anyway.
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It's a pity that I have no rights to post in dev-topics yet. I will try to make a big topic here, post more torrent links for now...
You don't have a torrent client installed? It's hard to imagine in what swamp you are living
Never really had any reason to install one. I'm not into too much downloading stuff anyway.
You only need 4 more post. So you'll prolly be posting there in a bit.
stankyou said:
Thank you if you are willing to help developers host their roms. But developers would proactively update their download links if they really want to keep their work alive. If they don't then they probably moved on to something else or doesn't care at all or both.
They don't owe us anything for they do this thing on their own terms. They are grateful for every donation but that doesn't mean that they owe you support. It's a donation not a pay for service.
2cents.
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I don't even ask donations.... and mattman donates me (and others) ftp space that he pays for, for nothing.
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Added torrent for RevolutioN.xMas.Edition.v3.0 in first post. Didn't try on wife's Desire. Will try sometime later
rootSU said:
I don't even ask donations.... and mattman donates me (and others) ftp space that he pays for, for nothing.
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May be you need a torrent for your works? I can make some, seed and host. Just PM me if you'd like.
Thank you for the offer but no need. I will put up a mirror if ftp fails. I like to track download statistics myself
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Only two more posts Rever! You've done well out of this (pointless?) debate
Personally I think this is a good idea. I already use this method for testing and distributing Linux distros.
of course if the ROM is open source which all Android roms should be then there is plenty of good free hosting specifically for open source projects. Two I can think of being Google code and Sourceforge
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BTW: Can anyone advice other good roms, that will be good to release as torrents?
Hmm Aurora v6; 1 hotfile, 2 live mirrors not much need of torrent there.
Just hope u ask the Devs first.
I think it would be great if there could be a push to get developers to use torrents as a method of distributing their roms. I'm downloading Sandvold's latest release now using a torrent and it is so much easier and a hell of a lot faster! It also means that while were at work we could use the utorrent app on android market to download a rom remotely to our computer so that its there waiting for us to flash when we get home.
The response to using torrents in Sandvolds thread has been brilliant, so why don't developers use this method as a download option more commonly?
Edit: I'm not suggesting that torrents become the new download standard, just that they should be an option for future releases
I agree. This has always been the purpose that BitTorrent ahs been intended for. Also there is a torrent client for Android now.
The high-speed-servers should serve the torrents as initial Seeds. That doesn't mean that they can't serve direct download, too. For those that can't use torrent.
But anyway, with the crowd around here, I believe that torrent will always be the fastest and least expensive solution for distributing releases.
I agree. Downloaded 0.4.2 from Sandvold's link yesterday evening around 9pm GMT. Was done in a few minutes.
I was using rtorrent on my linux desktop and then put it into dropbox to transfer it to my phone. Dropbox is good for these things, at least when you are too lazy to find the usb cable
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Im all for them...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512932
You do need to take into account that some people can't access torrents (when sneakily downloading in work)
Sklblue said:
You do need to take into account that some people can't access torrents (when sneakily downloading in work)
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Yep, torrents as an alternative seems appropriate. It's up to each projects devs though, obviously..
But with all the helpful people on here the ROMs do end up in places where you can get hold of them.
laserlion said:
Yep, torrents as an alternative seems appropriate. It's up to each projects devs though, obviously..
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I'll send devs a PM, link them to this thread and see what their responses are...
Edit: Anyone know of any possible complications in using torrents and how they'd be seeded?
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Anyone know of any possible complications in using torrents and how they'd be seeded?
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No idea, but I saw someone mentioning the need of md5 checksums on the Sandvold ICS thread in case of corrupt downloads..
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No idea, but I saw someone mentioning the need of md5 checksums on the Sandvold ICS thread in case of corrupt downloads..
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Actually there shouldn't be a need for that. BitTorrent already does that. There shouldn't be any corrupt files. Otherwise it will say so and automatically correct them.
Another point in favour to torrents then, I guess
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torrents rely on people seeding after downloading, if they arnt seeded they will just die and be a waste of internet space.
more seeders = faster downloads
no seeders = no downloads
Well if modders will also upload the rom on torrent...then people like me who are busy with their work can stop the download in between and can resume it again.