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Request To Developers!!!

HI to all developers on XDA ! I hope you all are fine! I just wanted to request you guys that If possible then can you upload your future roms to megaupload ??? because it has got resume support! you know on unreliable connections its very risky to download files greater than 100mb without resume support!
Myself and a lot of other people around here will be very thankful to all of you!

Anything that's not RapidShare is great, because they always seem to be “full”.

the reason we upload to rapidshare is so we can get points for the downloads of our files, which we can convert to getting us premium priviledges, it will allow us to store the files on the server till the premium status expires.

mediafire ftw

ermacwins said:
mediafire ftw
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I've files on my MediaFire account since it began, waaaay back

http://www.multiupload.com/ or torrent

Or, like regular developers, we could upload them to sites actually meant for hosting code, sourceforge, github etc.

If We try then everything is possible! Anyways all other file hosts EXCEPT RAPIDSHARE are GREAT!!! Atleast BETTER than rapidshare.

shenshang said:
the reason we upload to rapidshare is so we can get points for the downloads of our files, which we can convert to getting us premium priviledges, it will allow us to store the files on the server till the premium status expires.
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Can't argue with that.

Lennyuk said:
Can't argue with that.
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Yeah, you can argue with it. Rapidshare is so slow and unstable that every time I want to download anything from there I just wanna hang myself

using BETA 3 right now, all things work great, but little bit slow.
also the Chinese working fine and Chinese input is also fine.
just can not as its' original use chinese to search in phone function...
it still great.

hillbilly99 said:
Yeah, you can argue with it. Rapidshare is so slow and unstable that every time I want to download anything from there I just wanna hang myself
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I can't use repidshare either, it never lets me connect, but some people use it fine, especially if you are a premium user.

georgeskydiver said:
using BETA 3 right now, all things work great, but little bit slow.
also the Chinese working fine and Chinese input is also fine.
just can not as its' original use chinese to search in phone function...
it still great.
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Hi I think you posted this in the wrong topic, but welcome to the forums

well Rapidshare are adding 10 new gigabit ports and 200 servers, which will sort out free users gettings their speeds and queues clogged up, it'll be fixed for you guys soon
EDIT: oh, they will be finished and ready march

hillbilly99 said:
Yeah, you can argue with it. Rapidshare is so slow and unstable that every time I want to download anything from there I just wanna hang myself
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try jdownloader. java cross platform, set it up and hav it running in tray. whenever you come across a rs link just copy it to clipboard, open jdownloader and confirm, then just wait, no more interaction. you don't even have to open the rapidshare website in your browser.
edit: works for ~100 hosters, not only rapidshare. really great tool, i use it at the time.

All about dead links to ROMs

It is really sad because most links for not so old ROMs are DEAD. Most of them were stored on MegaUpload, which is totally dead.
Sincerely, I am really surprised that NO ONE of the ROM-masters bothers to create a torrent for their ROM. WHY? Don't you want your work to be alive and well?
I don't really know if it is permitted to publish here links to torrent files, but I think that torrent is a contemporary technology, and if used right is a huge improvement on WORK SHARE for those who has a talent in something worth.
Starting from this post I want to publish some link to torrent-files of ROMs, that were checked on real devices.
1. Aurora ROM v5: Aurora_v5.zip.torrent
(Now downloading the fresh v6, will release a torrent when it's done, the Hotfile.com gives only about 80kb/sec download)
Edit: Aurora_v6_SE.zip.torrent
2. RevolutioN v3.0: RevolutioN.xMas.Edition.v3.0.A2SD%2B-signed.zip.torrent
P.S.: And again my word for ROM-makers - if you want people to enjoy your work, it is in your hands. Give them a good link, an alive one.

Torrents always need a seed. As soon as the need for the Rom disappears, so do the seeds. Then its just a .torrent file pointing to an empty tracker
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rootSU said:
Torrents always need a seed. As soon as the need for the Rom disappears, so do the seeds. Then its just a .torrent file pointing to an empty tracker
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Is it very hard for ROM-maker to seed 5-6 versions, or the only last 2 versions of his work?
And, in the torrent files, when you create them, you may enter web-seeds, the direct link to the file on some server. Do someone need a hosting? I can host about 50 roms! And I can seed them at home as torrents. Is it something hard in our days?!

Revertron said:
Is it very hard for ROM-maker to seed 5-6 versions, or the only last 2 versions of his work?
And, in the torrent files, when you create them, you may enter web-seeds, the direct link to the file on some server. Do someone need a hosting? I can host about 50 roms! And I can seed them at home as torrents. Is it something hard in our days?!
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What, forever? Get a grip man!!!
..and why rely on technology that isps and work places treat as illegal and block / throttle. Ftp is the best way forward. Torrents are old hat. Didn't know.people still used.it ha ha
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Do you think, that relying on some slow and questionable upload sites is better?
This is about a week that I've decided to flash some new ROM on my wife's Desire, and I have been trying to download for some days! 99% of the links are dead!
If someone from ROM-masters want to host their ROMS on my server, welcome! I have about 20GB free and 1,5TB of bandwidth monthly. And I have an Internet at home, I can seed them. In our time it is possible, you know?
Why no one has proposed a help like this? Is it illegal somehow? Just think about Ubuntu and others - they give a torrent to the community.
P.S.: And if you have blocked torrents at work, or even at home (that is nonsence!) you always can use some online services, that download torrents for you and give you a direct link.

Thank you if you are willing to help developers host their roms. But developers would proactively update their download links if they really want to keep their work alive. If they don't then they probably moved on to something else or doesn't care at all or both.
They don't owe us anything for they do this thing on their own terms. They are grateful for every donation but that doesn't mean that they owe you support. It's a donation not a pay for service.
2cents.

stankyou said:
Thank you if you are willing to help developers host their roms. But developers would proactively update their download links if they really want to keep their work alive. If they don't then they probably moved on to something else or doesn't care at all or both.
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Just look there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268279
There is a new release of the ROM today, but it is on hotfile.com, that is giving only 50-70kb/s speed! It takes forever to download. Is it very hard for developer to make a torrent file and seed it? I understand that they don't owe me anything, but should the people choose the better way to distribute their work?

If that's what they can offer or if that's their preference then who am I to complain? I am just a leecher. Yes it would be a pain to download. I don't prefer torrents tbh and I can also go and say "Is it very hard for developer to make upload this to mediafire hotfile?"

stankyou said:
If that's what they can offer or if that's their preference then who am I to complain? I am just a leecher. Yes it would be a pain to download. I don't prefer torrents tbh and I can also go and say "Is it very hard for developer to make upload this to mediafire hotfile?"
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Is it hard for someone else make a torrent? Is it hard to mention it in the topic?
I am willing to help in that manner, why others do not?

Well no one is stopping you from helping them out in that department and I bet the devs would appreciate it.
As for me, I still prefer file hosting sites as with the majority of people here I guess. I really don't wanna go and install a torrent client on my laptop anyway.

stankyou said:
Well no one is stopping you from helping them out in that department and I bet the devs would appreciate it.
As for me, I still prefer file hosting sites as with the majority of people here I guess. I really don't wanna go and install a torrent client on my laptop anyway.
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It's a pity that I have no rights to post in dev-topics yet. I will try to make a big topic here, post more torrent links for now...
You don't have a torrent client installed? It's hard to imagine in what swamp you are living

Never really had any reason to install one. I'm not into too much downloading stuff anyway.
You only need 4 more post. So you'll prolly be posting there in a bit.

stankyou said:
Thank you if you are willing to help developers host their roms. But developers would proactively update their download links if they really want to keep their work alive. If they don't then they probably moved on to something else or doesn't care at all or both.
They don't owe us anything for they do this thing on their own terms. They are grateful for every donation but that doesn't mean that they owe you support. It's a donation not a pay for service.
2cents.
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I don't even ask donations.... and mattman donates me (and others) ftp space that he pays for, for nothing.
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Added torrent for RevolutioN.xMas.Edition.v3.0 in first post. Didn't try on wife's Desire. Will try sometime later

rootSU said:
I don't even ask donations.... and mattman donates me (and others) ftp space that he pays for, for nothing.
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May be you need a torrent for your works? I can make some, seed and host. Just PM me if you'd like.

Thank you for the offer but no need. I will put up a mirror if ftp fails. I like to track download statistics myself
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Only two more posts Rever! You've done well out of this (pointless?) debate

Personally I think this is a good idea. I already use this method for testing and distributing Linux distros.
of course if the ROM is open source which all Android roms should be then there is plenty of good free hosting specifically for open source projects. Two I can think of being Google code and Sourceforge
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BTW: Can anyone advice other good roms, that will be good to release as torrents?

Hmm Aurora v6; 1 hotfile, 2 live mirrors not much need of torrent there.
Just hope u ask the Devs first.

Downloading a rom using torrents

I think it would be great if there could be a push to get developers to use torrents as a method of distributing their roms. I'm downloading Sandvold's latest release now using a torrent and it is so much easier and a hell of a lot faster! It also means that while were at work we could use the utorrent app on android market to download a rom remotely to our computer so that its there waiting for us to flash when we get home.
The response to using torrents in Sandvolds thread has been brilliant, so why don't developers use this method as a download option more commonly?
Edit: I'm not suggesting that torrents become the new download standard, just that they should be an option for future releases

I agree. This has always been the purpose that BitTorrent ahs been intended for. Also there is a torrent client for Android now.
The high-speed-servers should serve the torrents as initial Seeds. That doesn't mean that they can't serve direct download, too. For those that can't use torrent.
But anyway, with the crowd around here, I believe that torrent will always be the fastest and least expensive solution for distributing releases.

I agree. Downloaded 0.4.2 from Sandvold's link yesterday evening around 9pm GMT. Was done in a few minutes.
I was using rtorrent on my linux desktop and then put it into dropbox to transfer it to my phone. Dropbox is good for these things, at least when you are too lazy to find the usb cable
Mons

Im all for them...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512932

You do need to take into account that some people can't access torrents (when sneakily downloading in work)

Sklblue said:
You do need to take into account that some people can't access torrents (when sneakily downloading in work)
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Yep, torrents as an alternative seems appropriate. It's up to each projects devs though, obviously..

But with all the helpful people on here the ROMs do end up in places where you can get hold of them.

laserlion said:
Yep, torrents as an alternative seems appropriate. It's up to each projects devs though, obviously..
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I'll send devs a PM, link them to this thread and see what their responses are...
Edit: Anyone know of any possible complications in using torrents and how they'd be seeded?

StillTheWatcher said:
Anyone know of any possible complications in using torrents and how they'd be seeded?
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No idea, but I saw someone mentioning the need of md5 checksums on the Sandvold ICS thread in case of corrupt downloads..

laserlion said:
No idea, but I saw someone mentioning the need of md5 checksums on the Sandvold ICS thread in case of corrupt downloads..
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Actually there shouldn't be a need for that. BitTorrent already does that. There shouldn't be any corrupt files. Otherwise it will say so and automatically correct them.

Another point in favour to torrents then, I guess
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torrents rely on people seeding after downloading, if they arnt seeded they will just die and be a waste of internet space.
more seeders = faster downloads
no seeders = no downloads

Well if modders will also upload the rom on torrent...then people like me who are busy with their work can stop the download in between and can resume it again.

we need torrent links

Hello everyone
we are a lot of users that we have slow internet connection.
then:if we want to download any ROM rather than stock one.....>then
we have to wait more than 2 hours to download..........and finally>:crying:
"we have unusable file with the wrong MD5 check-sum"...so:
Is there any torrents links to the all android files and ROMs?
Because the torrent link is the only choice to ensure that you will download the correct file

The problem is that then we would need to find people willing to seed the files and whoever hosted the file to begin with would have their connection maxed out for the first few hours after updates when everyone rushes to download the rom. Torrents are not like a direct download (like rapidshare, dev-host or goo) the file is not uploaded to a website that has extremely high bandwidth capabilities it is stored on the user's computers and a link (the torrent file) is uploaded most people are lucky to have a 1mbps upload connection which would give you painfully slow speeds if a bunch of people were trying to download the file from the one seeder.

cstone1991 said:
The problem is that then we would need to find people willing to seed the files and whoever hosted the file to begin with would have their connection maxed out for the first few hours after updates when everyone rushes to download the rom. Torrents are not like a direct download (like rapidshare, dev-host or goo) the file is not uploaded to a website that has extremely high bandwidth capabilities it is stored on the user's computers and a link (the torrent file) is uploaded most people are lucky to have a 1mbps upload connection which would give you painfully slow speeds if a bunch of people were trying to download the file from the one seeder.
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What about piratebay.com and isohunt.com or h33t.com,if there is any help between our forum and these sites i think we solve this problem.

I rarely have a problem with a downloaded ROM. Don't see the need IMO.
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anees02 said:
What about piratebay.com and isohunt.com or h33t.com,if there is any help between our forum and these sites i think we solve this problem.
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If you are using a torrent site the file is not being hosted on the website that's true for all of them. Think of a torrent file as a set of instructions that tell your torrent program (utorrent, bit torrent, etc) which computers have the file you are looking for. Your torrent program then makes a direct connection with the computer that has the file. Torrents are only really effective for files that are very popular since many people have the same file allowing you to download it from many sources.
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Jizzylax said:
I rarely have a problem with a downloaded ROM. Don't see the need IMO.
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I downloaded the Stock ROM of HTC Incredible 2 ,after 4 hours from downloading i found MD5 checksum Not correct.
So i can not download it again and wait 4 hours once again and finally find the same problem....and my bandwidth cap limited.

cstone1991 said:
If you are using a torrent site the file is not being hosted on the website that's true for all of them. Think of a torrent file as a set of instructions that tell your torrent program (utorrent, bit torrent, etc) which computers have the file you are looking for. Your torrent program then makes a direct connection with the computer that has the file. Torrents are only really effective for files that are very popular since many people have the same file allowing you to download it from many sources.
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May be you are correct.....but android and ROMs are becomes popular day after day....so we find ourselves in need of torrent site one day,
so we want to start.

Stop typing in different colors, it's hard to read on Tapatalk.
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we need sharks with freaking laser beams more than torrent links

anees02 said:
May be you are correct.....but android and ROMs are becomes popular day after day....so we find ourselves in need of torrent site one day,
so we want to start.
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Hi dude! I recently met a guy called TweakerL on #asus-transformer IRC chat channel on Freenode. He is actually in the process of setting up a torrent server himself as he claims a proper setup will cost far lesser to maintain than the setup that is followed by goo.im and many other direct download sites (I suppose part of the reason a torrent setup will be less costly is because most of the downloading is done P2P and hence not much bandwidth and processing is needed by the actual server...) Anyway, I suppose he is one of your only options. Because setting up a torrent is NOT as simple as uploading a file to a server and letting others download it - that is direct downloads and I suppose quite a few people already mentioned that in here...
I suggest you to talk to that chap (TweakerL) on #asus-transformer IRC channel and see what he is up to.
[2] Your other option is if someone can upload the whole file in several pieces (i.e. archive the ROM and split it into several smaller archives). Then you can download each small piece separately so that if one of the small archives goes corrupt, you can just redownload that segment and save huge amounts of time AND bandwidth!
I hope someone can help you out with Option #2... That is a simpler workaround than torrents IMO...
Cheers \m/

I think a torrent site is a interesting idea however it would not work for this environment because there are too many roms for it to have consistent seeders... A torrent might work for a week and then the number of seeders would drop so low that you would actually download slower than you do now. Maybe a download manager application would be a better option for you.
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prototype7 said:
Stop typing in different colors, it's hard to read on Tapatalk.
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This made me LMFAO.
nitsuj17 said:
we need sharks with freaking laser beams more than torrent links
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So did this.
adammwhiles said:
I think a torrent site is a interesting idea however it would not work for this environment because there are too many roms for it to have consistent seeders... A torrent might work for a week and then the number of seeders would drop so low that you would actually download slower than you do now. Maybe a download manager application would be a better option for you.
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Well said. Additionally, ROMs are updated so frequently that torrents would not work.

Jizzylax said:
This made me LMFAO.
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Good to know the 3 minutes I spent typing bbcode in Tapatalk weren't wasted
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nitsuj17 said:
we need sharks with freaking laser beams more than torrent links
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+1
Btw.... when were you planning on including those in your roms? I don't want to flash one today just to have to flash the new one tomorrow to get my freaking sharks with freaking laser beams.
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Torrent...
Or we could post the ROM's to Usenet and distribute NZB links.
/sarcasm
I see the value in this for some. esp with some of the host sites that want to you signup and such.
Or maybe just rSync with you're favorite DEV's goo.im that'd be lazy

[Q] Downloading ROMs through usenet

Want to check if there are people interested in having the roms, kernels and tools uploaded to a usenet group (most likely alt.binaries.android) and NZBs as an alternate download method for these ROMs.
If there is a decent number of people interested, I would approach the devs to see if they would like to have their files available on usenet, I would offer to upload their files and provide them with the nzb files to place it in their threads.

Make it torrent and im in, im so tired of slow download speeds from upload sites. They suck, and I dont want to pay for premium.

Posting the NZBs would be a great idea, save waiting almost an hour to download an image. Torrents would be an idea, but you'd need to have people keeping the image alive for the upload.

greg8263 said:
Posting the NZBs would be a great idea, save waiting almost an hour to download an image. Torrents would be an idea, but you'd need to have people keeping the image alive for the upload.
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Thats true, while on usenet, it will always be there ready to be downloaded (you can even use a usenet client on your phone to download it even faster)
keep the votes coming guys