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Stock or custom Rom ?

I have owned three Android devices before getting my GNex. Each of those three devices were rooted and rom-ed within the first one month. I have had my GNex for almost two months now on stock jellybean, no root or custom recovery. The flasher within me is itching to flash something new. The pragmatic within me finds no justification for flashing. The other devices had some issue or the other; everything works fine on stock jb on the Gnex. I am trying my best to side with the pragmatic.
Question to the community- I know what I gain from flashing a custom rom ( customizability, overclocking,etc) . Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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viskon said:
I have owned three Android devices before getting my GNex. Each of those three devices were rooted and rom-ed within the first one month. I have had my GNex for almost two months now on stock jellybean, no root or custom recovery. The flasher within me is itching to flash something new. The pragmatic within me finds no justification for flashing. The other devices had some issue or the other; everything works fine on stock jb on the Gnex. I am trying my best to side with the pragmatic.
Question to the community- I know what I gain from flashing a custom rom ( customizability, overclocking,etc) . Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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Well, I for one won't be flashing any ROMs (at least for several months) once my GNEX arrives tomorrow. Whenever I had an unsolvable issue which was with the ROM I chose and would ask for help, I'd get the most cynical responses. "That's what you signed up for" seems to be the common theme. It's like people enjoy being in constant beta tester mode, even when they are supposedly running the stable build of a ROM. The only reason I would flash a ROM is if the default JB build the phone came with was horribly broken. Overclocking on something like a phone is a bit excessive, especially for something that is already a powerhouse and can run the most intense games available for it with relative ease.

viskon said:
I have owned three Android devices before getting my GNex. Each of those three devices were rooted and rom-ed within the first one month. I have had my GNex for almost two months now on stock jellybean, no root or custom recovery. The flasher within me is itching to flash something new. The pragmatic within me finds no justification for flashing. The other devices had some issue or the other; everything works fine on stock jb on the Gnex. I am trying my best to side with the pragmatic.
Question to the community- I know what I gain from flashing a custom rom ( customizability, overclocking,etc) . Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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You don't lose the warranty if you know what you're doing........
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viskon said:
Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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You don't lose anything, but you gain a lot of nifty features.

I recommend you always try stock out for a bit before trying anything else. Stock 4.1.1 is damn good.
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martonikaj said:
I recommend you always try stock out for a bit before trying anything else. Stock 4.1.1 is damn good.
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Stock is great but I got tired of my phone giving me 15 hours of battery life on avg so I rooted to get a kernel
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drzplaya1121 said:
Stock is great but I got tired of my phone giving me 15 hours of battery life on avg so I rooted to get a kernel
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Interesting. That is what i currently get. And did flashing a new kernel help?
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I tried several highly regarded JB roms (ParanoidAndroid, CM10 nightly, the varieties of AndroidME), but keep coming back to stock + Nova Launcher. Don't even need to (re-)root for that. Just a great combination that you can rely on.
But when I get that itch, I play around with ParanoidAndroid for a few days here and there. A really interesting rom, which I'm sure you'll hear a lot about.

I was coming from a sgs2 that was on a custom ROM and surprisingly I'm happy with stock 4.1 and see no need to flash a custom ROM. Maybe just a kernel to get better battery life even tho it lasts me all day with about 4 hours of screen on time so I can't really complain.
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I've been rooting, modding, and even custom ROM building since my Samsung Moment days and ever since. Since I got my Galaxy Nexus on Sprint, however, all I've done is flash a completely pure AOSP stock build of 4.1.1. With this device I have no desire other than to be running the most current Android source. Everything just works, and works well. I have no need for flashy features. Jelly Bean already has every feature I need.
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I love stock vanilla Android. All my other phones, I'd root and install Cyanogenmod asap. I'd always use the modified factory roms on offer as well, because Cyanogenmod often didn't work that well in the early days of a new device or Android version.
On the nexus I don't really need to flash, but I still use Cyanogenmod 10 anyway for the sole reason the power control toggles in the status bar are very handy.
Either way, only a nexus device can offer such high quality aosp based roms. I say have fun trying a few. Yes there are still issues sometimes but it's nothing like what I've experienced in other phones.
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Definitely Cusome
Stock is always nice for a while, but the reason you get a nexus is to be able to have fun and do things that others can't :good:

CourtimusMaximus said:
Stock is always nice for a while, but the reason you get a nexus is to be able to have fun and do things that others can't :good:
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One of the reasons. For me it's just to have the latest AOSP software, and for me that is enough. The Nexus fills both plates very well.
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The reason I got a nexus was because I hated all the touchwiz/sense stuff and the pre-installed carrier garbage... thus removing my reason to root my phone (not that I don't like to tinker, but 18 credit hours leaves little time).
The only reason I ended up rooting was for PGM so I dont destroy my power button in 3 months like all my previous phones, and for the widgets to show up in apex/nova. Aside from those, I run a totally stock system...
On an unrelated note, sooooo many iphone owners in my classes ask me how to wake their iphone by swiping... i love telling them that they cant

Same boat. GSM stock ROM. Itching BUT I don't want to lock the phones secure element because Google wallet is pretty cool.
Night features are nice but not worth losing wallet over
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CyberpunkDad said:
Same boat. GSM stock ROM. Itching BUT I don't want to lock the phones secure element because Google wallet is pretty cool.
Night features are nice but not worth losing wallet over
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With the GSM Galaxy Nexus, you can unlock, root, find a custom ROM and flash it, then find the Google Wallet APK and install it. It'll say "unsupported device" because Google wants to warn you about "rooting," but it'll activate and work .
I'm using NexusHD 4.3 with GApps and Google Wallet.

With Galaxy Nexus and Jelly Bean there is no reason to try custom ROMS. Only bug a can find is 2.4GHZ wireless.

I've tried to stay as close to JB stock as possible, flashing a vanilla deodexed build of JB and just a couple of mods (battery percent and louder speaker sound) that increase everyday functionality for me and a kernel change because it increases battery life and on demand performance by a practically useful margin. Everyone's personal preferences I suppose but that's the great thing about a nexus device, it can please different tastes/uses very well.

Gnex is so boring ...there is no compelling reason to flash .. everything works just great without any tweaking
Life with galaxy s was more fun...flashing every nightly..dealing with bugs..spending hours on xda forum to find the fixes/work arounds / tricks to improve battery life..I miss all these.
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4.1.2 smoothness..?

Hi All,
I have been using 4.1.2 few days now, and I'm really confused. This is not as smooth as expected. Launcher jerks quite often, not much but much more than in 4.1.1. Am I only one with this issue or do someone have similar experience..?
Thanks !

adheesio said:
Hi All,
I have been using 4.1.2 few days now, and I'm really confused. This is not as smooth as expected. Launcher jerks quite often, not much but much more than in 4.1.1. Am I only one with this issue or do someone have similar experience..?
Thanks !
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Are you using a custom rom?
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Most likely, I don't think the OTA for the GNex is out yet.

EpiclyEpic said:
Most likely, I don't think the OTA for the GNex is out yet.
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The factory image is though. You can run stock 4.1.2. That is what I'm running.

shockem said:
Are you using a custom rom?
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No, I am using original factory image. Only thing done is rooting by flashing SuperSu. I think that should not cause jerking..? Or have I missed something..?

adheesio said:
No, I am using original factory image. Only thing done is rooting by flashing SuperSu. I think that should not cause jerking..? Or have I missed something..?
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not seeing any here; also JZO54K by factory image

I did "clean-flash" with literally full wipe, I don't see any differences in smoothness compared to JRO03c.

adheesio said:
Hi All,
I have been using 4.1.2 few days now, and I'm really confused. This is not as smooth as expected. Launcher jerks quite often, not much but much more than in 4.1.1. Am I only one with this issue or do someone have similar experience..?
Thanks !
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try a different governor/scheduler or different governor settings. i like ondemand/deadline with a sampling rate of 15000/up threshold of 98%.

m.kochan10 said:
I did "clean-flash" with literally full wipe, I don't see any differences in smoothness compared to JRO03c.
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There were very few changes to the launcher in 4.1.2. Most dealt with orientation on larger screens (like the Nexus 7). So I don't see how it would be any less or more smooth than 4.1.1. Most likely, the user didn't do a clean install or they are just noticing small lags more because they are looking for it.

adheesio said:
Hi All,
I have been using 4.1.2 few days now, and I'm really confused. This is not as smooth as expected. Launcher jerks quite often, not much but much more than in 4.1.1. Am I only one with this issue or do someone have similar experience..?
Thanks !
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Try francos milestone 6 kernel
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bozzykid said:
There were very few changes to the launcher in 4.1.2. Most dealt with orientation on larger screens (like the Nexus 7). So I don't see how it would be any less or more smooth than 4.1.1. Most likely, the user didn't do a clean install or they are just noticing small lags more because they are looking for it.
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Cannot agree more. :good:
Maybe it's just a placebo effect but I think autorotation (landscape to portrait and vice versa) animation seems more fluid here than on 4.1.1 which I considered little jittery.

Thank you everyone. I am sure this jerks more than 4.1.1 in my device.. But if it works normally for everyone else then the problem has to be in my device/installation. Installation should be clean (done according installation script). One thing I'm wondering is Google Wallet. I downloaded image with wallet, but it does not seem to be enabled in my region. But neither that should cause jerking..?

You probably need to flash 4.1.2 drivers update. Check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930640
I flashed AOKP 4.1.2 and got back my smoothness with it.

robto said:
You probably need to flash 4.1.2 drivers update. Check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930640
I flashed AOKP 4.1.2 and got back my smoothness with it.
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Thank you for the tip ! I'm just more confused.. are these drivers really missing from official google factory image..?

The stock image comes with all the drivers and binaries. Maybe turn it off and back on? I have absolutely zero lag and have about 30apps in total. Maybe close the ones you are not using?
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Ieatnoobs said:
The stock image comes with all the drivers and binaries. Maybe turn it off and back on? I have absolutely zero lag and have about 30apps in total. Maybe close the ones you are not using?
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Ok, thanks ! I have to try monitor apps if some of them causes lag (high cpu usage or something). If lag continues then I think reflashing might do the job.. Seems to be unique issue so something going on with my device.
Thanks everybody for tips & thoughts !

adheesio said:
Thank you for the tip ! I'm just more confused.. are these drivers really missing from official google factory image..?
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ASOP roms may not have them, but should be included in stock.
Do a nandroid backup, flash and test. It is a very very small file to flash. It helped me with AOKP (AOSP).
Before flashing over 4.1.2, I flashed over a 4.1.1 and .... I think a got some additional smoothness, but .... as there is not accurate procedure to measure smoothness, could be only my sensation.
EDIT: 124 user apps running smooth with AOKP

No lag here 53apps try XenonHD smoothies ROM in my experience
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It runs very smooth for me on cm10 no lag that I notice it actually seems to fun smoother than stock 4.1.1 on my phone and on my girls nexus s also running cm10
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Does it fix the really laggy notification pull down? I really don't get why it lags.. It's nothing there? :s
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(Speculation) Why is the butter gone?

Many people have had issues with retaining the" butter" from 4.2, let's here your experience, and what you did to get it back, or what we should try. Let's try to regain our butter
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Who said it was gone?
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Some users are having issues with
Stuttering and lag, this thread is a discussion about why and ways to fix it
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I agree with that, it's not really lag, but the smoothness drops back to ISC level. Maybe 4.2 needs 2G RAM to perform?

Yeah. Some people have butter though, so we know it is definitely capable
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When my butter is gone, I go to the grocery store and buy some more.
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Google rushes things. They also forgot about December, Play store launch was a fail, and put Chrome as the stock browser. I love Google, but they need to quit playing games with my heart (yup, I went there.).
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bpyazel said:
When my butter is gone, I go to the grocery store and buy some more.
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. wish it was that ready for phones
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I haven't had a problem, not sure if I just got lucky or if it's fully a credit to mmuzzy and tiny.
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How to get the butter back:
1) Download the last stable 4.1.2 rom of your choice
2) Do a factory reset with TWRP
3) Wipe the buggy 4.2.1 rom using TWRP
4) Flash 4.1.2 back in.
5) Enjoy butter while waiting for 4.2.2 or later builds which is probably coming in January due to the holidays.
Was that so hard?

CADude said:
How to get the butter back:
1) Download the last stable 4.1.2 rom of your choice
2) Do a factory reset with TWRP
3) Wipe the buggy 4.2.1 rom using TWRP
4) Flash 4.1.2 back in.
5) Enjoy butter while waiting for 4.2.2 or later builds which is probably coming in January due to the holidays.
Was that so hard?
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Or just flash the official 4.2.1. I run stock, rooted and have no problems. I tried a few roms based of 4.2.1 and they were slow and laggy.

This reminds me of the "zero shutter lag" feature that was removed from the Gnex, or selling a 8GB device just to say it "starts at $299." It's just something fancy for them to advertise and get some hype/sales, then they remove it. This is standard procedure by now, right?

Butter is not gone, 4.2 is definitely smoother than ICS and on par with 4.1 and it seems to have much less stutter than 4.1 did
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I can confirm that 4.2.1 stock seems really fast to me.
I have to say that I'm a new GNex user, coming from a Nexus S with 4.1.2. I was using rasbeanjelly with an optimised kernel: there were obviously some lags, time to time.
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I understand that it is still there, this is a thread for people who are having issues with lag
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I came from S2 and I feel Gnex is way more buttery.

ray3andrei said:
Butter is not gone, 4.2 is definitely smoother than ICS and on par with 4.1 and it seems to have much less stutter than 4.1 did
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ncvikingx97 said:
I understand that it is still there, this is a thread for people who are having issues with lag
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Guys I know that when working it oz butter, but right now this is a thread top help people who's phones are lagging. of you don't have anything good top day don't say it
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ncvikingx97 said:
Guys I know that when working it oz butter, but right now this is a thread top help people who's phones are lagging. of you don't have anything good top day don't say it
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Noone can tell you exactly what, but the general trend is, that the OTA caused various problems for some, so when some people don't have problems on the same SW, the problem can only be located to something stored on the data partition because of the update process compared to a full wipe.
So the answer is simple, you do a full wipe and install the factory image of 4.2(.1) directly. If this doesn't solve it, it isn't a software problem...
And yes my phone is no less fluid than it was on 4.1, Í, however, updated as descriped with a clean install.
(1)They also forgot about December, (2)Play store launch was a fail, and put (3)Chrome as the stock browser.
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1. No that is a general misconception, what was really the case, was a regular code error(zero-index error), making the last row in the array holding the months being skipped. You can't blame them for not spotting this small error in the very limited testing they can do in house. I for one have never used that particular feature and didn't know you could add birthdays until this was discovered. What really matters is that it was fixed within weeks.
2. How? Everything seems to be branded as play store quite fine, whether you like the name or not shouldn't matter
3. why wouldn't they promote the chrome brand and make it easier for users to sync everything between their desktop and phone?

In a direct comparison,i still think 4.1.2 is a bit more fluid overall (app drawer for example,let alone recent apps list). That together with all the other stuff going on (screen switches on,blutooth, worse battery - for me at least) led me to go back and stay to 4.1.2. Not a single problem and constant ~4h on screen time. I can easily wait for a bugfix update next year.

Was rooted jedi cleanrom and jellythunder now stock

I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Its all peraonal preference my friend. Its your phone. Do what you want to with it:thumbup:
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mrklc1974 said:
I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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One of the best thing about custom roms is that you get all the goodies before the updates that sometimes come months later if at all.For me,when I flash a custom rom on my android device it finally becomes mine.Until then you are literally AT&T/Verizon's etc,etc,etc *****.With all that useless crap on your phone that is forced on you without a choice.I personally like to have full control over what is on my device especially because now a days these "toys" cost as much as my laptop.Again,my personal preference.If anything I would try to talk you into re-rooting.LOL
p.s I am running cleanRom and it is absolutely the bees knees.

technut said:
One of the best thing about custom roms is that you get all the goodies before the updates that sometimes come months later if at all.For me,when I flash a custom rom on my android device it finally becomes mine.Until then you are literally AT&T/Verizon's etc,etc,etc *****.With all that useless crap on your phone that is forced on you without a choice.I personally like to have full control over what is on my device especially because now a days these "toys" cost as much as my laptop.Again,my personal preference.If anything I would try to talk you into re-rooting.LOL
p.s I am running cleanRom and it is absolutely the bees knees.
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Amen. The battery life, at least in my experience, is unquestionably superior on Jedi vs stock, and i fought hardddd to stay stock like constantly diagnosing wake locks and battery usage.

Or you can flash a different kernel
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mrklc1974 said:
I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Well...duh...did you honestly expect something better than what you had ? Did you suddenly expect a pushed update from AT&T to offer you a better experiance than those 3 custom roms ? Ease of updates...? I don't get it...Are you actually trying to say relying on a OTA update is easier than actually flashing a new update yourself ? Are you saying waiting and waiting and hoping you get a good ota download and it flashes properly for you..is better than being able to flash and being able to reflash if you actually need it ?
Sorry if I sound rude...but come on...get real would you...You knew the benifits going in and why you rooted it and flashed them..and now you want folks to paint a all rosey picture that a full blown unrooted phone is better than a rooted one running those 3 custom roms...Sorry...it ain't going to happen unless it is coming from someone who didn't install something correctly..or just perfers the bloat and limitations of a stock phone..
If you want & like the stock feel and look...flash Scott's AT&T special edition of his Clean rom..It's debloated..and he has linked to some theming for it..
If you want to go way beyond..wait for Truth's new one out later today or tommorrow..It's fully themed..debloated..has all the latest & greatest available..is fast..and everything works on it..What more could you want...
Personally...I won't ever run a stock phone on purpose after the allowable return time for it..Triangle away has removed the worry of returning it for service..and TWRP has made flashing anything a non issue as well..
It's your phone..run it the way you want to..and be happy..but please don't ask on a developers forum to be convinced to stay on a stock rom..that is just plain lame...IMHO
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I know exactly what you mean and I did feel the same way. Samsung has done an amazing job with this phone. However I have used Jedi, miscoms international roms, cleanrom, now on cleanatt. I have found with a on a custom kernel either persus or the aslyum/note2core. As long as I undervolted and didn't over clock my battery life was a lot better than stock and phone was much quicker and responsive over stock and still had all the great features. We have some awesome devs here for roms and kernels. To me is a very hard choice on what rom to stay on as well as kernel. They are all amazing in there own ways and in my opinion all awesome. I hope no devs flame me I'm just saying they are all very intelligent people at this and I see great things in all there work. AS FOR NOW. I'm on Scotts dedicated at&T. I have took around 40 user and system apps that "I" consider bloat and running persus kernel with the profile zip of 2 offered. My battery life is insane. All day of heavy use and still about 70perecnt left after 8 hours or so. Hope I may have helped you or someone else. I love open source
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I have been over clocked to 1800 and above on Jedi and pulled over 2 days off charger with over 8 hours screen time. If you want to stick with stock look, Clean Special build and definitely a kernel. They pull the debugging crap out, optimize voltages, etc. Kernel devs have been working magic...and finding bugs that Sammy, HTC, missed
Edit...patiently waiting for that Blackout later today.
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mrklc1974 said:
... considering going back to cleanrom... .... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Well...if you want to stay stock...you could try disabling various stock apps that you don't need via settings:app mgr...it's hard to hurt anything and you can always re-able them.
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I think updates are "cleanrom" are pretty easy. Named "clean..." for a reason and I feel like it's stock with added benefits. Have fun deciding.

mrklc1974 said:
I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Custom rom always. I ran my Note 2 stocked for 2 days and could not stand it. I had to because I was out of town for those 2 days. I suggest you load the Jelly Thunder Blackout 3.0 ROM asap. You'll love it.

I bought a second one white this time just got this reason. One to root to death and one totally stock. Just got the ota on the stock one and already miss tapatalk in the multi window. Once the allshare bug gets fixed universally (built into ROM) I think they both will be rooted
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Jelly thunder is where its at the dark theme is everywhere

The reason it goes full screen on some apps is because not all apps work with half screen. Not stock anyway.
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just_visiting said:
Custom rom always. I ran my Note 2 stocked for 2 days and could not stand it. I had to because I was out of town for those 2 days. I suggest you load the Jelly Thunder Blackout 3.0 ROM asap. You'll love it.
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running that since day one! Jedi didn't play some of my videos so didn't use it! Plus blackout is what you want. Much better!
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Jelly thunder is where its at the dark theme is everywhere
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Agree 100%, geared for the older folks on xda. Lol
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Yeah im running jelly thunder on my note 2. But some reason its model is galaxy nexus.. but im loving roms. Come back to the dark side. Less bloat ware. And everything you need on your phone.
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808shorty said:
Yeah im running jelly thunder on my note 2. But some reason its model is galaxy nexus.. but im loving roms. Come back to the dark side. Less bloat ware. And everything you need on your phone.
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Well u did not follow complete instructions on installing the rom. You will be running into problems if u don't fix asap.

Galaxy Nexus lags hard, ROM/KERNEL doesn't help.

Topic says it all. Stock/CM/Carbon(Linaro)/DU's/pacman/codefire, it doesn't matter which one is installed, my device lags like a *****. I switched to nova launcher from apex (to see if the launcher was causing it all,) and the homescreen scrolls better, but opening apps, doing anything within apps, switching apps and anything not related to the launcher still lags like crazy. I've tried LagFix, different kernels, nothing works. I close apps using the recent apps tab, doesn't help. My GS2 performs leaps and bounds better than this phone. Am I missing something. Is there anything I can do to make this phone not suck? I really want to like the phone. I have the Sprint version.

hollywood084 said:
Topic says it all. Stock/CM/Carbon(Linaro)/DU's/pacman/codefire, it doesn't matter which one is installed, my device lags like a *****. I switched to nova launcher from apex (to see if the launcher was causing it all,) and the homescreen scrolls better, but opening apps, doing anything within apps, switching apps and anything not related to the launcher still lags like crazy. I've tried LagFix, different kernels, nothing works. I close apps using the recent apps tab, doesn't help. My GS2 performs leaps and bounds better than this phone. Am I missing something. Is there anything I can do to make this phone not suck? I really want to like the phone. I have the Sprint version.
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Try to go back to stock using fastboot and Factory image.
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mrgnex said:
Try to go back to stock using fastboot and Factory image.
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I'll try that.
Running some side by side comparison's with my GS2 and GN using system panel, the GS2 always has over 200MB ram available, and the GN has 80 or less. I tried to make sure the same apps were opened (active) on each phone.

That sounds like a factory reset including format system is needed.
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You're running 4.3 right? If not, I suggest you to do it. Flash factory image via fastboot like said above
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Kustaa said:
You're running 4.3 right? If not, I suggest you to do it. Flash factory image via fastboot like said above
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I haven't tried 4.3 yet. Was waiting for most of the issue's to be worked out. Haven't looked into it in a week or two.

Phone is running much better now. Thanks a lot!

What did you do to see the improvement?
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rrrrrichard said:
What did you do to see the improvement?
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He probably was on 4.2.x, which, in recent memory, has been the worst release.

rrrrrichard said:
What did you do to see the improvement?
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Factory reset to stock through fastboot. Stock ran a whole lot better after that. Now I'm running a 4.3 ROM.

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He probably was on 4.2.x, which, in recent memory, has been the worst release.
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I was on 4.2.2. I never read any complaints about lag, or about it being a bad version...anywhere. Would have got off of it sooner if that were the case.

I upgraded to 4.3 with a factory reset. Not any lag issues at all. 4.3 actually seemed to have made android run more efficiently on my Gnex.
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Read about TRIM implementation @4.3. thats the main improvement over 4.2.2 IMO
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hollywood084 said:
I was on 4.2.2. I never read any complaints about lag, or about it being a bad version...anywhere. Would have got off of it sooner if that were the case.
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The whole lot of us whined about it on xda, g+, twitter etc

Funny thing is i full wiped and flashed back to 4.1.2 from 4.2.2 and the phone was still lagging. Didn't think it was possible but 4.3 really fixed this phone for me. was battling the lag for over a year. Lagfix trim, filling all the free space and deleting all the files, tried everything that was recommended and nothing helped. Thank you google for finally releasing 4.3
the only lag from 4.3 comes from when I use google navigation. It gets bogged down pretty bad. I think that has to do with the undeniable fact that 1gb of ram is not going to cut it anymore with today's memory consumption from modern apps.

4.3 has brought a host of new problems for me. Lagging and force closes plus a lot of app problems. Enough so that I'm shopping for a new phone which sucks because I love the Gnex.

4.2.1
Android 4.2.1 was the last OTA that android released to my GNex. I put the Warped ROM on, and it was a lagfest, especially when I had all 10gb of my music on it. I had to wipe and reset to 4.2.1 before I could even put on another ROM without it freezing during startup.

Have you see if you have the lastest radio image flash in your bootloader?
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It seems to me like one of the big bottlenecks in the Galaxy Nexus's performance is the abysmal I/O performance.
If anything whatsoever pings the storage, it seems to stall the device. I've had the phone lock up entirely requiring a battery pull by doing enough read/write, something I can't do to older and newer phones I own. Just the Galaxy Nexus.
TRIM in 4.3 helps mitigate it, but I think the fact is something is seriously awful in the Galaxy Nexus I/O stack, presumably on the hardware level, since this is the only device I own that has this issue.

My 4.3 install was acting up (data issues... :\) so I went back to stock 4.2.1 with golden kernel. Phone is running pretty smooth. Seems like the fastboot factory reset did the trick so far. Funny thing about it, I just now realized I flashed the 4.3 kernel. Phone is running really well, so uhh, whatever haha.