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I got the oddest bill from AT&T the other day with usage totals that were impossible. Has anyone experienced this and/or is there a possibility that it might have something to do with frequent flashing of different ROM's and Radios??
Data usage I assume? Wouldn't think any more than normal, except maybe some initial setup stuff like downloading email. Can use this to monitor what's using data if you're concerned.
Toleraen said:
Data usage I assume? Wouldn't think any more than normal, except maybe some initial setup stuff like downloading email. Can use this to monitor what's using data if you're concerned.
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No I mean like does messaging and the like which can be stored on the SIM, get reported a second time. AT&T forces you to have an unlimited data plan with the Tilt2 so no worries there. I just got a bill with something like 700 texts used in 2 days. Something I assure you I would have remembered doing. Hell, I wouldn't have been able to do much else.
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No I mean like does messaging and the like which can be stored on the SIM, get reported a second time. AT&T forces you to have an unlimited data plan with the Tilt2 so no worries there. I just got a bill with something like 700 texts used in 2 days. Something I assure you I would have remembered doing. Hell, I wouldn't have been able to do much else.
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Wow...I've been with AT&T for years, and do my fair share of texting and flashing. Can't say I remember getting a bill with that many messages reported. I don't even think any roms I've used default to save to the SIM, even though the capability exists.
The only time I've seen this is when I've been in very poor coverage areas (ie, my basement heh). I'll send a text from the basement, then go upstairs and get 8 or 9 responses (if it's an automated system). If you've got poor reception I'd recommend trying a different radio...but I doubt poor reception would cause that many repeats. Not sure man.
Toleraen said:
Wow...I've been with AT&T for years, and do my fair share of texting and flashing. Can't say I remember getting a bill with that many messages reported. I don't even think any roms I've used default to save to the SIM, even though the capability exists.
The only time I've seen this is when I've been in very poor coverage areas (ie, my basement heh). I'll send a text from the basement, then go upstairs and get 8 or 9 responses (if it's an automated system). If you've got poor reception I'd recommend trying a different radio...but I doubt poor reception would cause that many repeats. Not sure man.
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my guess would be just something screwed up in the ATT system. Check the rest of your bill and make sure everything else is in order and check your bills for the next few months.. ALSO check your last bill as they have a rule that after 1 month they wont fix it [although they will if you really push like I've had to ]
Thanks for all of the sage advice. AT&T sucks in so many ways but the one thing you can say is that if you *****, whine, cry etc. at them enough they will wipe some errant charges. I think alot of these are as Toleraen suggests, nothing more than duplicates. We shall see and I will post any and all results of my efforts to get to the bottom of this.
Thanks again
So lately I've been using a lot of data (so far up to 2GB with a week left until my billing cycle ends) and gotten up to 200MB just today alone. I went to open my browser and expected Google to pop up but instead a page pulled up warning me that I was using an unusual amout of data and I needed to input the following characters on the page to make sure I wasn't a bot. I'm curious if anyone has ever encountered a situation like this before and if it is a cause for concern. I mean I do have Verizon's unlimited data plan. I will admit this is the first time I've gotten to 2GB within a month but I have gotten fairly close before (1.6GB). The ROM I'm currently using is MIUI 12.31.
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So lately I've been using a lot of data (so far up to 2GB with a week left until my billing cycle ends) and gotten up to 200MB just today alone. I went to open my browser and expected Google to pop up but instead a page pulled up warning me that I was using an unusual amout of data and I needed to input the following characters on the page to make sure I wasn't a bot. I'm curious if anyone has ever encountered a situation like this before and if it is a cause for concern. I mean I do have Verizon's unlimited data plan. I will admit this is the first time I've gotten to 2GB within a month but I have gotten fairly close before (1.6GB). The ROM I'm currently using is MIUI 12.31.
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I think you're fine man. As long you're not burning up 4GB a month all is well. I had a friend take a trip to Vegas and tethered the whole time and he used 9 gigs. Verizon let it slide.
keith.mcintyre26 said:
I think you're fine man. As long you're not burning up 4GB a month all is well. I had a friend take a trip to Vegas and tethered the whole time and he used 9 gigs. Verizon let it slide.
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Wow, that's a lot. He or she did get any type of warning from the phone? It wasn't really Verizon letting me know they suspect unusually high data usage it was more like Google was telling me that. By the way, is Verizon's unlimited data actually unlimited or is there some kind of invisible cap?
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Wow, that's a lot. He or she did get any type of warning from the phone? It wasn't really Verizon letting me know they suspect unusually high data usage it was more like Google was telling me that. By the way, is Verizon's unlimited data actually unlimited or is there some kind of invisible cap?
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I've actually gotten that on my pc before. I believe its due to the fact that my home page is Google and every time I open a new browser window or tab, it goes to Google.
**** em, we signed up for unlimited data and we'll get it. If they change their data plan like AT&T we'll be grandfathered in with unlimited data like people with at&t's original data plan. Their only other option is 150mb for $15, **** that.
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I've actually gotten that on my pc before. I believe its due to the fact that my home page is Google and every time I open a new browser window or tab, it goes to Google.
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Interesting, kinda comforting to know that it doesn't just show up on phones. I do have Google set as my homepage on my Dinc.
I don't think verizon enforces any limit, but I did read that they start throttling back your communication speed after a certain point. 4gb I think. There's a thread in the dev forum about a hack to disable the speed cut back.
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I don't think verizon enforces any limit, but I did read that they start throttling back your communication speed after a certain point. 4gb I think. There's a thread in the dev forum about a hack to disable the speed cut back.
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Do you think you can link me?
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Do you think you can link me?
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here you are:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=891047
Not sure when and with what ROM this started happening but my signal drops to 1x really frequently. 3G is always going in and out. Any ideas or fixes? Has this been discussed somewhere before? On train ride in to work so haven't searched threads yet! I flashed synergy a few days ago coming from mikg and before that gingerale..and before that cyanogen! It seems like I've had the problem since moving back to sense from cyanogen about a month/month and a half ago.
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Where are you located? Have you had speed related issues?
Sprint has been having issues related to the overloading of towers with the excessive growth of data usage [with the boom of the Evo]
Towers are set to send some phones to 1x when 3g usage is high in order to alleviate speed issues for all.
That could explain your issues.
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Where are you located? Have you had speed related issues?
Sprint has been having issues related to the overloading of towers with the excessive growth of data usage [with the boom of the Evo]
Towers are set to send some phones to 1x when 3g usage is high in order to alleviate speed issues for all.
That could explain your issues.
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I live in the northwest suburbs outside of downtown Chicago. I work and commute to the city and I experience it the whole ride to and from home. I will be sitting at my desk and randomly go from full 3G to 1x. At home in the suburbs, my signal is terrible in my house already but I do get dropped to 1x as well. Don't really notice any speed changes besides the normal slowdowns from what I am assuming is the congestion.
That sounds like a horrible way to fix their congestion issues! Is this something they just started doing? Like I said in the first post, everything functioned perfect up until a month or two ago. Also, would they apply that to an area as big as Chicago out the suburbs?
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I live in the northwest suburbs outside of downtown Chicago. I work and commute to the city and I experience it the whole ride to and from home. I will be sitting at my desk and randomly go from full 3G to 1x. At home in the suburbs, my signal is terrible in my house already but I do get dropped to 1x as well. Don't really notice any speed changes besides the normal slowdowns from what I am assuming is the congestion.
That sounds like a horrible way to fix their congestion issues! Is this something they just started doing? Like I said in the first post, everything functioned perfect up until a month or two ago.
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It's not a fix, it's just a way to alleviate some congestion while they work on redoing the towers.
I'm not saying this is what's happening to you but it's likely.
You can try to have the phone reactivate itself. [If I recall correctly that function is in ##yourmsl#]
You can get your MSL here.
You can also try to update your PRL and then Data profile.
Same thing here. I've complained to Sprint several times so now they want me to bring my phone in to be checked so I need to unroot. Ugh
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It's not a fix, it's just a way to alleviate some congestion while they work on redoing the towers.
I'm not saying this is what's happening to you but it's likely.
You can try to have the phone reactivate itself. [If I recall correctly that function is in ##yourmsl#]
You can get your MSL here.
You can also try to update your PRL and then Data profile.
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Thanks for the info. I will give it a shot. I did update my PRL and profile in that order but didn't seem to help. If nothing helps maybe I'll have to get this bad boy replaced or something.
ripalsanghani said:
Thanks for the info. I will give it a shot. I did update my PRL and profile in that order but didn't seem to help. If nothing helps maybe I'll have to get this bad boy replaced or something.
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Also, and before you ask there is no logical reasoning for this and even the very knowledgeable technician that recommended it hasn't figured out why it would do anything, you can try going to ##3282# and clicking "view" and then clicking on EVDO and then backing out and trying the internet.
They don't know why that would do anything and no it doesn't make any sense...but that's exactly why I refuse to go into anything related to working on computers...for being logical they aren't logical...at all.
By the way, doesn't hurt to keep your radios updated.
Best of luck.
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Also, and before you ask there is no logical reasoning for this and even the very knowledgeable technician that recommended it hasn't figured out why it would do anything, you can try going to ##3282# and clicking "view" and then clicking on EVDO and then backing out and trying the internet.
They don't know why that would do anything and no it doesn't make any sense...but that's exactly why I refuse to go into anything related to working on computers...for being logical they aren't logical...at all.
By the way, doesn't hurt to keep your radios updated.
Best of luck.
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Haha, I am actually in IT so I know exactly what you mean. I will try that out as well. And my radios were updated and I was actually considering rolling back to see if that caused any issues for me.
Let me correct myself, sorry I never run Sense, it's ##786# then you hit menu and hit reset.
You need to have your MSL. Also, please note that this will erase your /data and you will lose all personal information.
Furthermore, be sure to cancel when it tries to do a check for firmware update.
This honestly may be more trouble than it worth though.
Thanks, yeah I found the reset option in another thread. I reset, hit the prl update, cancelled the firmware check and will run this around town for the day see if I get 1x. I'll post back here later today. thanks again for the help!
Well used for most of the day and so far so good. Saw it go down 1x once on train compared to everytime I unlocked the phone. Let's hope this isn't temporary . Ill post again after the weekend to test around the suburbs and state to state during a trip to toronto. Thanks again!
Oh and speed still sucks but that's a sprint issue obviously.
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ripalsanghani said:
Oh and speed still sucks but that's a sprint issue obviously.
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Yeah it is.
ripalsanghani said:
Not sure when and with what ROM this started happening but my signal drops to 1x really frequently. 3G is always going in and out. Any ideas or fixes? Has this been discussed somewhere before? On train ride in to work so haven't searched threads yet! I flashed synergy a few days ago coming from mikg and before that gingerale..and before that cyanogen! It seems like I've had the problem since moving back to sense from cyanogen about a month/month and a half ago.
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I had the same problem a month ago. It's the phone. I tried many different combination of radios and roms but no help. Ended up exchanging it. When you bring in the phone just use the android browser to load a heavy graphic webpage which should take forever in 1x mode.
I hate to bother the people here but you all are my last chance at fixing this problem or at least hopefully getting advice on how to make Sprint fix it.
About 2 weeks ago there was a major service outage in my area. Internet went down first followed by phone and text service about 3 hours later. The outage started at around midnight and lasted till around noon. Almost every night since then I have been loosing data signal between midnight and 2 am. When it does start to come back on the signal is terrible. The outage lasts between 30 minutes and 3 hours and the slow service afterward usually lasts for another 15 to 20 minutes. Today I had internet drop around 11 am. I have called Sprint 5 times. So far I have been told to reset every possible thing you can reset on my phone and none of that has helped. Now they are saying that I live in a "Signal May Vary" area and that it is not their problem. This issue is happening with all Sprint phones in this area. I work for an ambulance service and happen to be around alot of other people with Sprint. So far we have 3 Epic 4g's and an Epic 4g Touch that are all experiencing this issue. Two of the Epic's are running CM9 Alpha 3 and the other is stock. The Epic Touch is running stock (but rooted) EL29. Normal download speed for us on 3g is 1.0 to 1.75 mbps as determined by the Speedtest.net app.
Any help you guys can provide would be GREATLY appreciated.
have you updated your prl 2x and profile 2x? tell them to reset your profile on their end. when you do this, you need to have the phone totally off. after they reset your profile, you turn your phone back on, and update prl and profile 2x.. make sure your battery is fully charged.
all your services are in a "switch glitch loop". but once you do this.. you should be ok.. you have to be patient though. after updating it will take about 5 mins for full speed to kick in with the tower and your phone.
I haven't done all of those in that exact order but they have all been done over multiple calls. I will try them though if I can get sprint to understand that they need to reset the profile.
And also would this be likely to happen to multiple phone all at once? Or is this just a really freaky coincidence?
just tell them that you need them to reset your "profile from they're end". if they say they can't do it.. tell them you want to talk directly to advanced tech support. "DO NOT, DO NOT" tell them you are rooted.. even if they ask.. do not admit to it.
So within 1st 3 days of upgrading to my awesome SGS3 on T-MO, I noticed that anything data related was down to an absolute crawl. Turns out I was streaming all my Amazon music ONLINE and that sucked up my entire month's allowed bandwidth and so was stuck on <56k speeds until my cycle renewed TWO WEEKS later. So I somehow made do without any data until then.
So fast forward 2 weeks later, and I'm throttled ALREADY!! Anyone have any tips/advice on how to keep my data usage lower? I know I can use wifi whenever possible, but even doing so I'm already capped at my data limit before I'm throttled by like 99%. Alternatively, is there any way to increase the "unlimited" cap before I get throttled? I just upgraded my contract and don't want to deal with the ETF/changing carriers.
Any help would be much appreciated... thank you!!
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So within 1st 3 days of upgrading to my awesome SGS3 on T-MO, I noticed that anything data related was down to an absolute crawl. Turns out I was streaming all my Amazon music ONLINE and that sucked up my entire month's allowed bandwidth and so was stuck on <56k speeds until my cycle renewed TWO WEEKS later. So I somehow made do without any data until then.
So fast forward 2 weeks later, and I'm throttled ALREADY!! Anyone have any tips/advice on how to keep my data usage lower? I know I can use wifi whenever possible, but even doing so I'm already capped at my data limit before I'm throttled by like 99%. Alternatively, is there any way to increase the "unlimited" cap before I get throttled? I just upgraded my contract and don't want to deal with the ETF/changing carriers.
Any help would be much appreciated... thank you!!
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Well on ICS you can monitor and set your own data limits. Another thing you might want to look into is not using amazon music. I know this sounds dumb but if it's causing you to use up so much data use something else. I stream Pandora all month long and never get throttled. I have the 5GB data plan. Oh and since I work for tmobile you should probably call in about this issue so they can compare your actual usage to the networks to make sure it isn't something they might have to fix. Rarely happens but I have seen this at least a few times. All you can do is increase your data plan. and set your limits through ics. or dial #web# and it will display your usage. or go to tmobile.com under usage you can see it here as well.
How much data are you allowed before you are throttled? You might try downloading your audio directly to your device with a wifi connection. You might also try Google Music, which caches lots of what it streams.
There are many data usage tracking apps, but I prefer LBE security in the market. Give it a try.
Thanks for the responses!
To follow up - yes I have since moved all my Amazon mp3s directly onto my phone, so that's no longer a problem. And prior to the S3, I had the MyTouch 4G, which, while not a spectacular phone, did everything I needed. My amazement with the S3 is that, beyond the first few days of accidentally streaming all my usage away with the Amazon mp3s (which was decidedly dumb of me), my data usage habits haven't changed all that much since my older phone. So I was completely blindsided this month when I already hit my data limit.
I'll need to dig into this a bit more with T-MO, but I was asking in the forum to see if anyone knew of any background app or program, or anything specific to the GS3 that would be using a steady stream of data without my knowledge? Again, thanks in advance for your help!
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Thanks for the responses!
To follow up - yes I have since moved all my Amazon mp3s directly onto my phone, so that's no longer a problem. And prior to the S3, I had the MyTouch 4G, which, while not a spectacular phone, did everything I needed. My amazement with the S3 is that, beyond the first few days of accidentally streaming all my usage away with the Amazon mp3s (which was decidedly dumb of me), my data usage habits haven't changed all that much since my older phone. So I was completely blindsided this month when I already hit my data limit.
I'll need to dig into this a bit more with T-MO, but I was asking in the forum to see if anyone knew of any background app or program, or anything specific to the GS3 that would be using a steady stream of data without my knowledge? Again, thanks in advance for your help!
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What is your data monthly limit ?
Internet is all good here
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What is your data monthly limit ?
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It's 2GB.
So after crying to TMO for a while, they told me they could up my limit but I would have to renew again and (of course!) increase my monthly bill which is already ghastly! I guess from the lack of many responses or even any other threads with similar experiences, it probably isn't some hidden data sucker upper program that's the problem here... just me being careless with my data usage... =(
Did you by chance use an upgrade for this phone? If your answer is yes, I might have some insight on this.
You should take a look under Data Usage in your settings to see what apps are using the most data. YouTube tends to be one of the bigger ones if you're on it more than once in a while. Or maybe you have an app that's constantly backing up apps.. That takes a lot of data too. Look around and check their usage.
Turn of syncing, Contacts, Picasa, Mail etc, Check them Manually
Install Opera Mini, uses up to 90% Less data than normal browser BUT loads websites slower
Using Youtube? Turn HQ off, but on this screen the quality will kill you.
grubbslubbs said:
Thanks for the responses!
To follow up - yes I have since moved all my Amazon mp3s directly onto my phone, so that's no longer a problem. And prior to the S3, I had the MyTouch 4G, which, while not a spectacular phone, did everything I needed. My amazement with the S3 is that, beyond the first few days of accidentally streaming all my usage away with the Amazon mp3s (which was decidedly dumb of me), my data usage habits haven't changed all that much since my older phone. So I was completely blindsided this month when I already hit my data limit.
I'll need to dig into this a bit more with T-MO, but I was asking in the forum to see if anyone knew of any background app or program, or anything specific to the GS3 that would be using a steady stream of data without my knowledge? Again, thanks in advance for your help!
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Tmo has been very understanding when my family or I have made similar mistakes. My son went wild downloading games with monthly subscriptions and Tmo made it all go away. Be nice/professional and ask for a manager or the next in command if you are not able to rectify the issue. Being a 10+ year Tmo guy they treat me well. Learn to work the system and stay cool. Sometimes it takes multiple calls to find the right person that is willing to help.
Watch out for Google+ and instant upload along with dropbox too. All 3 will instant upload unless you change the settings
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Also see what apps or accounts are set to auto sync and you could limit background processes as I on my s3 staying logged on eBay for instant notifications,having gmail and other apps set to auto sync and too many background processes was costing me 10 to 12 Mega bytes a day times that by 30 days and that's like 300 to360 megabytes a months wasted you can always check your e-mail and stuff manually unless your a business man and relied on heavy notifications this will help you save a lot of data it keeps me safe because I have the five GB plan too and I've went over a lot until I dug into my settings, hope this helps.
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Awesome, thanks everyone for your suggestions! I totally forgot about all the background apps/processes that auto-sync... definitely has helped some. Still isn't 100% better, but like someone else suggested earlier, I was able to talk my way through with a helpful rep. I am also a longtime customer, and they seemed to want to work with me, as opposed to giving me the shaft.
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Did you by chance use an upgrade for this phone? If your answer is yes, I might have some insight on this.
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Yes, I did an upgrade through Wal-Mart the week it was launched in the US.
Same thing happened to me. I just restarted a cycle.... But the cycle before this one... Some app used nearly a GB of data around 5 in the morning 3 days into the cycle. By the time I realized this and called TMobile... I was up into the 3.6 range... Couldn't track down the app because I was rom jumping. Anyway, TMobile wasn't much help... I thought for sure they would reset my data since they can see my usage history, but no dice. Bastards! :cyclops:
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Same thing happened to me. I just restarted a cycle.... But the cycle before this one... Some app used nearly a GB of data around 5 in the morning 3 days into the cycle. By the time I realized this and called TMobile... I was up into the 3.6 range... Couldn't track down the app because I was rom jumping. Anyway, TMobile wasn't much help... I thought for sure they would reset my data since they can see my usage history, but no dice. Bastards! :cyclops:
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Ouch!! Yeah, I was hoping to have some sort of definitive answer like you did (1 unknown app hogging all the data at some random time) but I really didn't have anything to pin-point the problem. Were you able to remove/disable that app from doing that?
How about you post what apps you have installed and we can all compare and see if anyone else has the same problem with some of the same apps. Just a thought to maybe help you out. Im just bored shopping with the gf lol.
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If you're still hitting your cap in the next few months you might consider a 5GB plan. It'll give you quite a bit more data to work with and you can tether with T-Mobile's blessing.