http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968914
Looks like Verizon will be getting Jelly Bean 4.1.1 soon. Any AT&T love?
aabaaf said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968914
Looks like Verizon will be getting Jelly Bean 4.1.1 soon. Any AT&T love?
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Wait 12 days dude. The devices haven't even been released so that means that source code hasn't even been released yet.
task650 said:
Wait 12 days dude. The devices haven't even been released so that means that source code hasn't even been released yet.
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Wait 12 days for what? What devices haven't been released yet? If you're talking about Nexus 4, that's not what I'm talking about, and the Nexus 4, is Jelly Bean 4.2, not 4.1.1, which is what I was talking about. If Sprint can release it, and Verizon can leak it, why can't AT&T at least leak something, even if it goes through another 2 or 3 leaks before official release.
aabaaf said:
Wait 12 days for what? What devices haven't been released yet? If you're talking about Nexus 4, that's not what I'm talking about, and the Nexus 4, is Jelly Bean 4.2, not 4.1.1, which is what I was talking about. If Sprint can release it, and Verizon can leak it, why can't AT&T at least leak something, even if it goes through another 2 or 3 leaks before official release.
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Thought you were talking about 4.2. But either way. You're comparing carriers. Different carriers release faster than others. So to say verizon or sprint can do it doesn't really hold any significance. AT&T does there own thing. So if you're waiting on them I wouldn't hold your breath dude.
I realize that carriers release things differently, and VERIZON, didn't release there's it's a LEAK. So all I am asking is, where is the AT&T LEAK?
aabaaf said:
I realize that carriers release things differently, and VERIZON, didn't release there's it's a LEAK. So all I am asking is, where is the AT&T LEAK?
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In AT&T's development department.
.99599 usesemb
Why do you even need ATT leak when you can use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956463
I have been using it for 3 days and it works flawlessly
Because I want something specifically designed for my phone, not one that's close. Also I've seen several articles on here about people having problems with the Sprint version, especially with the GPS, and having to go back to stock 4.1.1, and reset etc......... I use my GPS a lot, so don't have time and can't afford it not to be guaranteed to work. Hence wanting an AT&T leak.
aabaaf said:
I realize that carriers release things differently, and VERIZON, didn't release there's it's a LEAK. So all I am asking is, where is the AT&T LEAK?
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By definition, a leak is, something an owner doesn't want to be made available and somehow becomes available before it's suppose to.
I wouldn't expect AT&T to volontarily "release" a leak...
They're only doing a better job than the other carriers keeping their stuff to themselves.
Of course, that's unless Sprint and Verizon intentionnaly leaked theirs...
task650 said:
Wait 12 days dude. The devices haven't even been released so that means that source code hasn't even been released yet.
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With your usual bad attitude you jumped the gun.
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Because I want something specifically designed for my phone, not one that's close. Also I've seen several articles on here about people having problems with the Sprint version, especially with the GPS, and having to go back to stock 4.1.1, and reset etc......... I use my GPS a lot, so don't have time and can't afford it not to be guaranteed to work. Hence wanting an AT&T leak.
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Hahah u sound frustrated. Even when the ATT leak comes don't expect it to be 100%.
As for the Sprint leaks I understand your reluctancy to flash it. Worse case is if it didn't work flash back to what did. That's the great part about Android.
I had issue with a certain JB rom until I found Graxxixnyc port and it works flawlessly. GPS et al.
Other then that just wait for ATT to give us JB, but as task said don't hold your breath as if we get official from them by the end of this year we would be lucky.
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Yes, I know it's something that the owner doesn't want out, but yet somehow all carriers seem to have them. Which was the point of this post. Never said they would "voluntarily" release it, otherwise I would have stated that implicitly. All I said was that since the OFFICIAL SPRINT release is out, and a leaked version of Verizon's SG3 software as of 10/8/2012 where is the AT&T version?
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With your usual bad attitude you jumped the gun.
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lol. keep on trolling dude. thats not what XDA is for. remind yourself of that. things you did wrong here.
1.) You didn't even try and help. I did.
2.) You brought your personal opinion of me into a development site. Leave your emotions at the door. Your personal opinions do not belong here.
3.) Contribute or add something here or it's a waste of a post. Learn that.
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Yes, I know it's something that the owner doesn't want out, but yet somehow all carriers seem to have them. Which was the point of this post. Never said they would "voluntarily" release it, otherwise I would have stated that implicitly. All I said was that since the OFFICIAL SPRINT release is out, and a leaked version of Verizon's SG3 software as of 10/8/2012 where is the AT&T version?
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I'm not sure how long you've been with AT&T, but they seem to take the longest out of all of the carriers in terms of their release times. Leaks come and go and sometimes never come. Basically it's just a waiting game dude. Patience is key when with AT&T.
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lol. keep on trolling dude. thats not what XDA is for. remind yourself of that.
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Its not about trolling "dude" its about talking to people in a respectful manner. I think its silly that when a some users are a developer they feel like they can come on and talk down to people. I'll just as soon run stock cupcake 1.5 on my phone than have some one treat me like **** for asking a question. But hey you're a grown man do what you want. people sniffing your corn hole for the latest ROM has went to your head apparently.
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Its not about trolling "dude" its about talking to people in a respectful manner. I think its silly that when a some users are a developer they feel like they can come on and talk down to people. I'll just as soon run stock cupcake 1.5 on my phone than have some one treat me like **** for asking a question. But hey you're a grown man do what you want. And people sniffing your corn hole for the latest ROM has went to your head apparently.
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Lol. Please grow up dude. I mentioned something along the lines that source hasn't been released yet and this is what you get from it? It was a simple error in reading it correctly. Happens every day dude. Get used to it. That's not only weird but its also taking something waaaay out of context. This is you holding a grudge for some reason or another and releasing it in a development site. So either you should keep to yourself or contribute to this community. That's what XDA is all about dude.
Thank you Task650, I realize that AT&T takes FOREVER, been with them seems like FOREVER. I know that leaks come and go, all I'm asking, is if anyone has any information about any AT&T leaks, not leaks from other carriers, that if you stand on your head, and spin, then it will work, and that if it doesn't you can always go back. I know all this, and if that is what I wanted to do I'd do it. But what I'm looking for is an AT&T leak, that way it's has the most chance of having most if not all things working properly. I am patient when waiting for things to happen, but just asking a friendly does anyone know if one is out yet, or heard anything is all.
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Thank you Task650, I realize that AT&T takes FOREVER, been with them seems like FOREVER. I know that leaks come and go, all I'm asking, is if anyone has any information about any AT&T leaks, not leaks from other carriers, that if you stand on your head, and spin, then it will work, and that if it doesn't you can always go back. I know all this, and if that is what I wanted to do I'd do it. But what I'm looking for is an AT&T leak, that way it's has the most chance of having most if not all things working properly. I am patient when waiting for things to happen, but just asking a friendly does anyone know if one is out yet, or heard anything is all.
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They take longer than forever from what I've seen. Which really sucks for the user that wants to run stock official roms. There is no leak yet. You will definitely know when there is because it will be posted in the development forum and users that use touchwhiz will be all over it.
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lol. keep on trolling dude. thats not what XDA is for. remind yourself of that. things you did wrong here.
1.) You didn't even try and help. I did.
2.) You brought your personal opinion of me into a development site. Leave your emotions at the door. Your personal opinions do not belong here.
3.) Contribute or add something here or it's a waste of a post. Learn that.
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On point number 2 this isn't some one off time you did this. Every one misreads time to time but countless posts you rip into people. hey its just a observation. No biggie.
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paniro187 said:
On point number 2 this isn't some one off time you did this. Every one misreads time to time but countless posts you rip into people. hey its just a observation. No biggie.
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you should really be concentrating on #2 & #3. please remind yourself that this site is about development. please go to the more appropriate places like Facebook, Twitter, or start a blog if you feel the need to voice your personal opinions about me. Your observations are just that. yours. but either way they belong elsewhere. please stop polluting XDA with them. thanks.
P.S- See how every one of your posts do not include any help for the original author of this thread? That says something about you. You might want to take a look at that.
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For the people that are not on G+ or follow a few of the cyanogenmod team members that are on it I wanted to repost what Koush said about an hour ago. I know people are waiting for CM7 on the E4GT but at the same time pestering the dev's is not going to get us anywhere and in turn could get them upset.
Epic 4G Touch Users: The devices were donated to us by RootzWiki, with absolutely no strings or expectations attached. Please stop asking for ETAs, it's extremely irritating and pretty disheartening.
Regardless, for those asking about Epic 4G Touch, here's what has been done with it so far:
The first official template/guide for building Samsung recoveries, specifically tested on Epic 4G Touch:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/8296-gui...rkmod-recovery-into-samsunginitramfs-devices/
It also helped add external/internal sd card support in CWR and RM:
https://twitter.com/clockworkmod/status/130005657024856064
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/89ed0b7355e93c145bb40483db5f79766a00e7df
You may not appreciate it, since it doesn't get you CM7 immediately. But this is the kind of work that streamlines the process for future Samsung devices getting properly supported and mainlined.
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Just a reminder guys give them time and chill. It takes time to get something great for these phones.
-cid
Thanks for the update! just knowing that they are working on it has my mouth watering!
I agree with the op. Bothering developers about it will not get it done any faster. It might them quit working on it. So everyone please just enjoy your phone now and good things are coming to us.
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
musclehead84 said:
I agree with the op. Bothering developers about it will not get it done any faster. It might them quit working on it. So everyone please just enjoy your phone now and good things are coming to us.
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
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True, but it's still nice to hear about their progress every now and then. We hadn't heard about anything other then rootzwiki giving koush an e4gt. Can't wait to have some aosp goodness
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paranoid android85 said:
True, but it's still nice to hear about their progress every now and then. We hadn't heard about anything other then rootzwiki giving koush an e4gt. Can't wait to have some aosp goodness
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The fact that Samsung can't even get off their ass to fix such a serious problem like LOS much less update their phones definitely makes people antsy about getting AOSP (which also helps bring other development)
Thanks for the update! I really need to follow them on Google+
Koush is the man! Noobs....let him be.
For what its worth I don't think the hangup is Samsung and lies more in the hands of Sprint who apparently have had a Samsung update submission and haven't done anything with it...for various reasons given I don't understand.
In addition to Samsung stepping up their game since the Samsung S's releases (namely beginning with SGS2 they also tried to counter their poor update record.
During the time I had the SGS2 from April through July we had THREE Samsung updates...coming fairly quickly after known issues.
The carrier here is the roadblock.
Lesson? Get the Nexus Prime.
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The fact that Samsung can't even get off their ass to fix such a serious problem like LOS much less update their phones definitely makes people antsy about getting AOSP (whichwho also helps bring other development)
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For what its worth I don't think the hangup is Samsung and lies more in the hands of Sprint who apparently have had a Samsung update submission and haven't done anything with it...for various reasons given I don't understand.
In addition to Samsung stepping up their game since the Samsung S's releases (namely beginning with SGS2 they also tried to counter their poor update record.
During the time I had the SGS2 from April through July we had THREE Samsung updates...coming fairly quickly after known issues.
The carrier here is the roadblock.
Lesson? Get the Nexus Prime.
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The problem with the idea that Sprint is holding up the updates is three fold:
1) Why would Sprint hold up the LOS fix? They're losing money on constant credits and device exchanges.
2) Samsung has a history, no matter what carrier, of not being anywhere near prompt with updates.
3) Also, why would Sprint hold up updates for only Samsung devices? Other device makers don't seem to have issues.
I think the fact is, Samsung sees the international market as more important than the U.S., and is even less concerned with the CDMA market.
I am so exited! Got my phone and stock drove me CRAZY within a few hours. The folks at CM seriously spoil us. We are so lucky to have them. I don't know why the small group of geniuses at CM can develop a ROM that is AWESOME and the stock ROMs suck so bad. I mean, she wouldn't anyone want to know what their battery percentage is, or have options for their dock and lock screen style, or not throw their battery and performance in the dumpster!
Not only does CM put out awesome ROMs in a timely manner, they do it across like twenty devices and eight manufacturers for free! ! ! Friggin miraculous. Anyway, thank you! Let's not be impatient because the miracle takes a couple weeks longer than convenient.
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Replying for in this thread for a bump. Please stop pestering the devs. CM7 will be ready for our devices when it's ready.
chunology said:
Please stop pestering the devs. CM7 will be ready for our devices when it's ready.
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Really?
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Why do people bug the crap outta the poor devs. Best thing to do is don't get the device right when it comes out if you can't wait. KOUSH and the other devs have life's. He will bring it in time believe it.
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How do I follow Koush on G+?
Sent from SGSII.
gqstatus0685 said:
How do I follow Koush on G+?
Sent from SGSII.
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http://tinyurl.com/6l2gqny
and
http://tinyurl.com/6xkhxaa
Post of the week
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http://tinyurl.com/6l2gqny
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Hey Nifnard,
How would I know his actual handle?
I know how to search in G+ and when I searched for Koush a log of profiles came up. I bet you were giggling like a little school girl when you were posting.
People on this website are full of themselves. I miss the old XDA.
Sent from SGSII.
gqstatus0685 said:
Hey Nifnard,
How would I know his actual handle?
I know how to search in G+ and when I searched for Koush a log of profiles came up. I bet you were giggling like a little school girl when you were posting.
People on this website are full of themselves. I miss the old XDA.
Sent from SGSII.
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Dude, it was in light fun.. you really need to lighten up a little bit there. and if you click the second link it googles his name and "google plus" which the first link that comes up, is his profile.. http://tinyurl.com/6xkhxaa
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holy **** that was hilarious. i never did get how people using android phones dont get how easy it is to google something. its a verb for god sake, just do it lol
MaliceOmega said:
holy **** that was hilarious. i never did get how people using android phones dont get how easy it is to google something. its a verb for god sake, just do it lol
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Google is a verb. So true. All my friends and family members probably think I'm an asshole because I google everything on my "google phone" to prove everyone is wrong. Sadly I prove myself wrong too at rare occasions.
Hi,
I'm currently running the Paradox ROM on the SGH-T989. Now, with ICS around the corner , I'd like to know how I can revert to the official ROM.
I've already taken a backup of the original stock ROM using the Clockwork Recovery mod. I'd appreciate it if someone could post an idiot's guide on upgrading to ICS from a custom ROM.
Thanks!
Who told you ICS is around the corner. It's at least a few good months away.
Tachyon1986 said:
Hi,
I'm currently running the Paradox ROM on the SGH-T989. Now, with ICS around the corner , I'd like to know how I can revert to the official ROM.
I've already taken a NANDROID backup of the original stock ROM using the Clockwork Recovery mod. I'd appreciate it if someone could post an idiot's guide on upgrading to ICS from a custom ROM.
Thanks!
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Flash it like any other rom (and specified kernal if there is one) would be my guess.
Although you should always follow the directions in the developers rom thread
Who told you ICS is around the corner. It's at least a few good months away.
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Most likly mistaking with the true GS2 International model
An engadget article. It's being rolled out for the normal SGS-II in Europe. I can't post the links until I'm 8 posts old , so here's the quoted text from the article.
After that March 10th mishap, Samsung reaffirmed to us that it'd deliver Android 4.0 for its GT-I9100 Galaxy S II when it was darn good and ready -- well folks, the company appears ready. It's just announced both via Facebook and Twitter that the Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade that so many have lusted after is now available and will begin its rollout to users in Poland, Hungary, Sweden and Korea today, and will move onto other markets from there -- subject to carrier requirements, of course. Better yet, Samsung has affirmed that its Android 4.0 update for the Galaxy Note, Galaxy S II LTE, Galaxy Tab 8.9 and 10.1 will follow shortly. So, if you're one of the lucky ones to receive the upgrade, let us know how it fares for you in the comments below. Otherwise, feel free to keep clicking that update button.
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I'm not familiar with how long the update would take to reach Carriers though. Anyway , I'm looking for a solution on how to upgrade when the update would come.
EDIT : Oops , someone beat me to it. I was referring to the international SGS-II. I'm not sure how long it would take to reach T-mobile.
I'm sick of the same thing being covered 20 times every day.
The international Galaxy S2 has NOTHING to do with our phone. Yes the name is the same but the insides of the phone are all different. They might as well have called our phone something completely different as to not confuse people.
Nothing from the I9100 will be usable for us. Nothing. Hence, I reiterate my previous statement: We are not seeing ICS for some months to come. Sad I know.
Here's your idiot proof guide.
Sell your t989 and buy the i9100.
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The real frustration with this site is that people come here looking for more information and get greeted with condescending dickishness. Those guys posting about how awful it is to have to read threads asking about the update knew fully well what this thread was when they chose to come here.
I don't see how people can be so unaware of common sense that they would be surprised that a phone called the Samsung Galaxy S II getting the ICS update might confuse people who own a phone called the Samsung Galaxy S II into thinking they are getting an update to ICS.
80centjack said:
The real frustration with this site is that people come here looking for more information and get greeted with condescending dickishness. Those guys posting about how awful it is to have to read threads asking about the update knew fully well what this thread was when they chose to come here.
I don't see how people can be so unaware of common sense that they would be surprised that a phone called the Samsung Galaxy S II getting the ICS update might confuse people who own a phone called the Samsung Galaxy S II into thinking they are getting an update to ICS.
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Amen!!!
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Teo032 said:
Here's your idiot proof guide.
Sell your t989 and buy the i9100.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
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Jesus ****ing Christ. Get off your high horse.
Tachyon1986 said:
An engadget article. It's being rolled out for the normal SGS-II in Europe. I can't post the links until I'm 8 posts old , so here's the quoted text from the article.
I'm not familiar with how long the update would take to reach Carriers though. Anyway , I'm looking for a solution on how to upgrade when the update would come.
EDIT : Oops , someone beat me to it. I was referring to the international SGS-II. I'm not sure how long it would take to reach T-mobile.
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By looking at the history, you can tell how long it usually takes for Samsung to deliver an update for carrier phones. As far as I can remember, for the T-Mo Galaxy S, it took them about 5 months to update to 2.2 AFTER the International Galaxy S received 2.2. This was about a month after google rolled out 2.3 via Nexus S.
The reason for the delay is because every carrier wants Samsung (and other manufacturers) to ensure that their bloatware works fine on their updated versions. And no matter how good Samsung's Hardware is, their software division is freaking slow!
So good luck waiting for 4.0. My guess is that it will be out by May/June/July/August.
Sept/Oct/Nov/Dec
Ok , thanks. But the real point of this thread was on HOW to UPDATE to ICS when it would finally come. It seems like everyone missed the point here. I don't really care when the update would come, that was never stated in the thread title nor did I ask for a date in my opening post.
I was fully aware that the "When is ICS going to arrive for T-mobile??!!" has been asked a hundred times, which is why I only asked HOW to update.
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Flash it like any other rom (and specified kernal if there is one) would be my guess.
Although you should always follow the directions in the developers rom thread
Most likly mistaking with the true GS2 International model
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Thanks for the tip. I guess it should work like the way we flash other ROMS.
Teo032 said:
Here's your idiot proof guide.
Sell your t989 and buy the i9100.
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Thanks , I'm sure that advice will be made a sticky.
Tachyon1986 said:
Hi,
I'm currently running the Paradox ROM on the SGH-T989. Now, with ICS around the corner , I'd like to know how I can revert to the official ROM.
I've already taken a backup of the original stock ROM using the Clockwork Recovery mod. I'd appreciate it if someone could post an idiot's guide on upgrading to ICS from a custom ROM.
Thanks!
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2hvy4grvty said:
Jesus ****ing Christ. Get off your high horse.
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^^ no sense of humor, he asked for an idiots guide on how to upgrade
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Thanks , I'm sure that advice will be made a sticky.
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^^ at least he can take it lightly lol
is it me or are more and more XDA n00bs taking things to seriously (not referring to the OP)
Well if ICS does come for our device in about 6 months.. you can always ODIN back to stock (check allgamers stickies) and wait for an OTA update, but you might have to wait for someone to exploit root access for 4.0... sooo i would wait until a dev creates a rooted stock ROM of 4.0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513359
i agree i have had the samsung moment i had a evo then evo3d photon now i went to tmobile t989 now ill be honest it seems alot of these rude people when i come for information are windows people ie xda information site not a im gonna sit here and insult someone for asking a question my question i pose is why did you even come to thread if your tired of the question seems if you were really tired of it you would not of clicked on the link sounds like to me you just wanting attention
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i agree i have had the samsung moment i had a evo then evo3d photon now i went to tmobile t989 now ill be honest it seems alot of these rude people when i come for information are windows people ie xda information site not a im gonna sit here and insult someone for asking a question my question i pose is why did you even come to thread if your tired of the question seems if you were really tired of it you would not of clicked on the link sounds like to me you just wanting attention
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jdillard343434 said:
i agree i have had the samsung moment i had a evo then evo3d photon now i went to tmobile t989 now ill be honest it seems alot of these rude people when i come for information are windows people ie xda information site not a im gonna sit here and insult someone for asking a question my question i pose is why did you even come to thread if your tired of the question seems if you were really tired of it you would not of clicked on the link sounds like to me you just wanting attention
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Eh , the saddest part about it is how most failed to READ the thread. It was clearly stated that help was needed on HOW to update. The question "When will the update arrive?" was never stated in the opening post.
To answer the op, there's 2 ways to do it. first is to flash back to unrooted stock and wait for the push from tmo. Instructions are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22881355
Second way is to wait for a deodexed or rooted version from a dev and just flash like a normal ROM.
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even as a HOW question not the best question since nobody even knows the WHEN part
This is the ONLY thread that will be allowed for ICS discussion, all others will be locked/deleted, and persistent abusers will earn an infraction or a ban - I'd rather not do that!
reinbeau said:
This is the ONLY thread that will be allowed for ICS discussion, all others will be locked/deleted, and persistent abusers will earn an infraction or a ban - I'd rather not do that!
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Thank God! I love you man ( As a MOD I mean )
We'll get ICS when we get it, simple as that!
~Eugene
I think we should storm T-Mobile's headquarters Matrix-style to get the source code, then hand it to the very capable developers here to finish it in a day or two. What say you?
Good idea... but I think the topic "ICS" is too general. How would we be able keep track of what the issue at hand is? Different groups of people could be talking about different things here at the same time.. if we keep it to "ONE" official forum for ICS. And it would just end up for a lot of us to do page searching.
There is only one issue at hand:
The T989 doesn't have ICS/Samsung source code.
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Good idea... but I think the topic "ICS" is too general. How would we be able keep track of what the issue at hand is? Different groups of people could be talking about different things here at the same time.. if we keep it to "ONE" official forum for ICS. And it would just end up for a lot of us to do page searching.
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They post it in the proper Q&A section.
eugene373 said:
Thank God! I love you man ( As a MOD I mean )
We'll get ICS when we get it, simple as that!
~Eugene
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What he said!
Come on Tmobile things have seem to been heating up with ICS ?!
Lollin! Typical T-Mobile fashion. Enjoy
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755
jmercil said:
Lollin! Typical T-Mobile fashion. Enjoy
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755
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LMFAO
Samsung + Tmobile + updates = Buy a new phone. Sorry, but this has always been an issue everyone always talked about with Sammy and T-Mobile. Things never change. They even posted it on FB like we are awesome, your carrier Blows! Have a nice day.
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Lollin! Typical T-Mobile fashion. Enjoy
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755
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Came here to post this (Samsung just tweeted and FB'd it). Y'all are fast!
Well, this is very depressing. I guess I'll be hopping on the SIII bandwagon soon.
As happy as I am with the T989 on Gingerbread, I want the latest and greatest. T-mobile has failed me once again. All of this Galaxy S II ICS news from other carriers, the ICS update for the S II for Tmo UK users, and now we get a message "in the coming months". That's sort of... heartbreaking to say the least.
Would source from skyrocket ics be enough for us to get decent battery life from a port ?
gawd ........ some how I thought them releasing source as fast as they did would change how they do things. I think its time we start jumping their a*ses again
If we dont show support for the galaxy s3 maybe they will pull their heads out of their butts.
I freakin love the phone but I'm tired of all they stupid excuses. You can still release source or some crap.
And I would love to have someone with a lot more followers tweet this !
A response from Tmobile
Time to spam Telus website.
- taz b.
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A response from Tmobile
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Exactly what I thought. They arent going to tell use until they push out the update. Apple does a somewhat similar few days notice.
It is annoying on both ends. Tmobile should realize they arent Apple and a software update isnt the press equivalent of realizing a new phone.
I've already gave up on this phone getting an official update , already accepted that ill have to get another phone so i will choose wisely next time, honestly the only thing that keeps me with T-Mobile is wi-fi calling if they ever stop that then I see no reason to stay with them
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I've already gave up on this phone getting an official update , already accepted that ill have to get another phone so i will choose wisely next time, honestly the only thing that keeps me with T-Mobile is wi-fi calling if they ever stop that then I see no reason to stay with them
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You sir have a point.
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gawd ........ some how I thought them releasing source as fast as they did would change how they do things. I think its time we start jumping their a*ses again
If we dont show support for the galaxy s3 maybe they will pull their heads out of their butts.
I freakin love the phone but I'm tired of all they stupid excuses. You can still release source or some crap.
And I would love to have someone with a lot more followers tweet this !
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Probably would be useless, the small number of users that actually know of or care about an update is nothing compared to the amount of people that just buy a phone because it looks nice or has a big screen. Most customers are oblivious. Most it would do is start a small trending topic and then it would fizzle like KONY 2012. Next thing you know your running around in public naked doing the "5 knuck backhand no drop ins". Updates are worthless to carriers usually unless its more of a Dev phone like the nexus. Which the SGS2 is not. Well atleast T-Mobile version. Money is in the contract! Hook line and sinker.
But what do I know? Nothing but what I have seen with my last three devices on T-Mobile. I don't think the SGS3 is going to be any different, ship the phone. Get the money. Rinse and repeat.
Thankfully there is a sweet dev community that can work wonders Modding and porting ROMs but I can even see now certain communities are fading out because of Vultures and demanding users plying updates updates updates. We should all chill and just enjoy what we have and work with it. Last thing you want is more talented Devs and Themers leaving a device you own because patience is not in our vocabulary. ICS will or will not come...device has only been out for several months. Look at the SGH-T959 community, strong and mad ROMs. Stuff takes time. This is a hobby for people, hobby! Something people like. Whoaaaa...way off topic. I'll shut up now. Sorry for the Opinionated rant.
Carry on.
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Ok .. we all know that XDA members and especially the Dev's are anxious to get there hands on an OFFICIAL AT&T release of JellyBean 4.1.x for our SGSIII's .. well, I can tell you this .. so far, AT&T (that I'm aware of) have already gone through 3 releases .. and NOT one of them have found there way up here on XDA.
The 4 builds so far are:
samsung/d2uc/d2att:4.1.1/JRO03L/I747UCDLI7:user/release-keys
samsung/d2uc/d2att:4.1.1/JRO03L/I747UCDLJ2:user/release-keys
samsung/d2uc/d2att:4.1.1/JRO03L/I747UCDLJ3:user/release-keys
samsung/d2uc/d2att:4.1.1/JRO03L/I747UCDLJ3c:user/release-keys
So .. if ANYONE knows, has access, secrets .. etc etc etc .. please release or leak so that our Dev's can have some real fun
I have searched high and low all over the internet .. I have been unable to find absolutely ZIP on all 3 releases.
And just how did you come across this information?
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And just how did you come across this information?
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http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro25&D=Samsung+SGH-I747+(Samsung+Galaxy+S+III+AT+and+T)&testgroup=system
Ya seriously, we need someone on the inside to release these leaks.
I have been toying with installing a JB custom ROM from here, but all of them have things that just aren't working.
Sometimes I am tempted to just go back to the iPhone and get a 5.
I would love to install an official leak. Would make me feel better.
I am sure we will see something very soon in the form of a leak or info on official release. A Sprint document was just leaked stating the their official JB update pushes tomorrow. Unfortunately its always the case that AT&T takes longer on updates than others.
Ooo, watching this thread eagerly. Phandroid released an article today that Sprint is going to start JB updates for their GS3s starting tomorrow:
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Would love to get my hands on one of these leaks until the official makes its way out.
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Ooo, watching this thread eagerly. Phandroid released an article today that Sprint is going to start JB updates for their GS3s starting tomorrow:
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Would love to get my hands on one of these leaks until the official makes its way out.
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Here's the article that specifically references the Sprint exclusion that I referenced on the other thread. As evidenced by today's development, the Examiner was correct.
http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-may-not-get-jelly-bean-u-s-until-2013
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Here's the article that specifically references the Sprint exclusion that I referenced on the other thread. As evidenced by today's development, the Examiner was correct.
http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-may-not-get-jelly-bean-u-s-until-2013
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Well nuts. I wonder why only Sprint is getting the love? Supposedly there are AT&T JB betas out there in the wild being tested, but none of them have leaked.
Can't come soon enough, if only because it'll eventually help our AOSP jelly roms wrt the proprietary bits.
There's no going back to a stock touchwiz rom, even if it is jellybean. )
(EDIT: Somebody gave this thread a 1-star rating, so I gave it a 5 to raise the current avg to 3)
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Can't come soon enough, if only because it'll eventually help our AOSP jelly roms wrt the proprietary bits.
There's no going back to a stock touchwiz rom, even if it is jellybean. )
(EDIT: Somebody gave this thread a 1-star rating, so I gave it a 5 to raise the current avg to 3)
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yeah, even if I won't use the stock JB rom, devs will to make our CM/AOKP much much better.
awaiting development.
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And they are waiting for leakage.
By the looks of it .. there is now another release out there somewhere for AT&T :
samsung/d2uc/d2att:4.1.1/JRO03L/I747UCDLJ3c:user/release-keys
It doesn't matter if there are a million leaks, without the ability to dl, it doesn't do a lot of good.
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It doesn't matter if there are a million leaks, without the ability to dl, it doesn't do a lot of good.
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I know .. it just sucks that all these are out there somewhere, and we can't get our hands on any of them !!!
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yeah, even if I won't use the stock JB rom, devs will to make our CM/AOKP much much better.
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Except that CM/AOKP are built almost entirely from source. Considering there isn't really a whole lot that's different between the Sprint, Bell, or whatever other carriers leaked/released their official JB builds for the GS3, i can't imagine having an AT&T specific ROM providing more aide than any of the others have already done.
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Except that CM/AOKP are built almost entirely from source. Considering there isn't really a whole lot that's different between the Sprint, Bell, or whatever other carriers leaked/released their official JB builds for the GS3, i can't imagine having an AT&T specific ROM providing more aide than any of the others have already done.
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Regarding what leaks are already out there .. Sprint, Bell, Rogers, T-Mobile etc etc etc // There are still bugs with each one of them on our AT&T SGS3's .. and again, these are of cause leaks .. except the Sprint release which is now Official, and there are even still bugs with that when ported over to ours.
At least, if we can get our hands on a original AT&T leak .. we can see if these same bugs exist between the builds, or if AT&T has everything working as it should .. who knows !!!
That's why I've been posting that there are test builds out there for AT&T .. just cannot find them, or get our hands on them .. I know there is someone out there that has access to these builds .. problem is, that person is telling me that he does "not have permission to release" !!!
I couldn't even get the fella to verify the build numbers for me.
Some devs have serious connections when it's available out well be here
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Some devs have serious connections when it's available out well be here
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Ohh I'm fully aware of that .. alot of Devs do .. worse part of all this, I know someone on here that already has access to and has been using it .. I cannot persuade him to release/leak what he has, keeps telling me "I don't have permission" !!! SUCKS
His last response to me on Twitter was "I'm good, many people send drama my way for giving them free stuff. some people in the android community just ruin it for everyone." and I haven't heard from him since.
heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
spaceosc said:
heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
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Most progress updates happen in IRC chat. irc.freenode.net #lg-optimus-g
Each & Every Day were are Growing!
spaceosc said:
heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
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Heya, believe it or not we are both coming from the same place. I loved my EVO 3D and hacked it to the max. However, has the months went by the phone's specs were no longer "flagship" quality. As a result, I went with LG OG after much and I mean much research. To your answer it is not empty but it just in hibernation until Jelly Bean is released, which is going to happen at any time very soon for Korean already has it (End of Jan I hope). So the devs are holding back releases for roms until JB but CM and ASOP are all in development as we speak.
Great Link for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2064215
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080610
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009531
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083320
P.S - It is SOOO much easier to root and unlock this phone compared to our EVO 3D. Even a one click tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039421
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^^^ I agree with what you said. In fact ive seen this.on many phones. Most of the blame is on lg for releasing the phone half ass. And also there wasent enough marketing put into the phone quite honest. By no means this isnt a flagship phone. Just because its labled as one. True the specs are nice but the fact that released with bugs and with ICS is complete bullcrap and a let down for sure. Further its just the nature of this forum to have to many chiefs not enough indians type of deal. Best way to learn anything is just to read up learn a little bit and have a clear mind and confidence u wont mess up your phone hahaha?
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Space, I don't have a wide berth of knowledge to give you, as this is only my 2nd Android smartphone. That said, the development here is severely lacking. There were a lot of hotshots promising things they couldn't deliver early on (like this phone is exactly the same as the Nexus 4, lol). They say all the action happens in IRC but log in there. Try it. Back yet? Didn't learn **** did you? No one talks about development there. It's like a business meeting about more meetings. They talk about what they need to be developing.
In the end, I'm not helping, so I can't really complain, but it's slightly frustrating to have a beast of a phone that no one is improving. Least of all LG. When I've attempted to get information I've been ignored or given the "we don't really know" SLASH "stfu kid" response. If you find good development news I'd love to see it.
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Many of us work, I work full time and have kids. Plus I have several other projects. If you honestly think nothing is getting done, maybe you should check github. Look at the amount of work being done towards cm10.1 for the lgog.
Not all development is ROMs and themes. Most of it happens before you see those ROMs and mods. Sure I could copy paste a rom together on my phone and call it something. Then everyone would think it was so cool, but the fact is it wouldn't be much different then what we already have. Will I build a stock based rom? Yes. Kernels? Yes. Aosp ROMs, yes. Some fancy aroma kitchen sink mod. Yup. Will I be doing this all within a week of getting the device and doing my research on it? Nope. There are like 20 sensors on this phone. Not to mention a ton of testing on kernels, what's bloat, what's a proprietary driver/lib vs source built. You need to remember that all of the development is done in peoples spare time. The phone is fast so no rush making it
Faster. The software is decent and has some decent feature without a lot of annoying issues so no rush there. Battery could be improved but thats mostly usage based. Nothing is crippled on this phone so there isn't exactly a huge rush to fix something on it. That is a good thing. We can pace ourselves and get more creative instead of fixing crap that should work already.
The biggest issue is not being jb+. That is being worked on daily by many people. I plan on helping as well but I agree with most of the devs on waiting for the korean source drop.
Give this phone time and it'll be crawling with flashy things.
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To add on to what Jokersax said, there is alot of development going on, but not as roms. CM10.1 technically works, but there is a bug that wont allow your to see anything on it. Would you like somebody to post it for you to test? We have to get a device tree going, and see what mods from other phones work here, and what we need to chance to get the different roms we build up and going. I am fairly new on the dev scene, but I am working on a rom ATM, just about to get out of the testing phase for my first public build (in the dev section). b-reezy is also working on porting MIUI, removing LG software to make it almost completely AOSP, and getting a few themes on our device, and helping me learn more as I go. We have alot of devs, but between real life events, and the time to make everything work it takes time. How long does a take big companies to get updates out that have dedicated developers? For LG it has been over a year to update one generation of android. Just be happy we can update it before that. Also if you sit enough on IRC you can find stuff (I found a flashable korean rom for our phone that boots, is english, but doesnt have 3g/4g/wifi working and such, so it is not posted here yet), but alot of it is people working in their free time, and all my talk about my work is either in my what do you want in my roms thread under Q&A, where there is already 3 test builds of my rom, and some of us are talking individually, like joker right above me, and b-reezy both talk to me daily on Gtalk the last several days to about 2 weeks for each one of them. And I cant remotely do anything as good as they can. Just wait a month or two then you will be spammed with roms and kernels to use. Try hitting up the Nook Tablet thread and see how development is going on there- I have had it over a year and there isnt even 2 dozen roms for it. It is all a matter on how locked the device is, and the drivers and such for the phone. Also we may be able to port stuff from the Nexus 4 BUT THIS IS NO WHERE NEAR THE SAME THING! We have a locked boatloader, the nexus doesnt (really big difference for dev work), plus GSM vs. CDMA radios is alot harder to dev for it seems like in the beginning. It is annoying how people complain about dev work not being fast enough yet they dont even remotely understand how any of it works. FYI we will probably have Jellybean on our device before LG releases it. 4.2 is the primary concern for the bigger devs right now. IF ANYBODY CANT FIND OUT THE LATEST DEVELOPMENT ON IRC JUST ASK, OR EMAIL OR GTALK ME AT [email protected] FOR MINE AND OTHER DEVS LATEST WORK. LET THEM WORK ON IT IN THEIR FREE TIME FOR FREE, AND I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS WHILE I AM AT SCHOOL OR WAITING FOR PRACTICE TO START. If you payed these devs then you complain, other than that STFU. There is alot of stuff that goes on that we cant account for ahead of time.
Jeeze people, devs do this stuff as a hobby. Who are we to ***** that they don't do it fast enough, as one who has no programming skills I'm just grateful to the guys who do the work to make a killer device even better. Am I itching for some CM goodness? Sure, but I can wait, this phone is awesome as is.
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Jeeze people, devs do this stuff as a hobby. Who are we to ***** that they don't do it fast enough, as one who has no programming skills I'm just grateful to the guys who do the work to make a killer device even better. Am I itching for some CM goodness? Sure, but I can wait, this phone is awesome as is.
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Ex f'n xactly. I just appreciate anything I can get. Stop looking a gift horse in the mouth. Oh God I hope I said that right!!!
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It's picking up really well. I truly love the beginning of development life for great phones. I also had the evo 3d and enjoyed it grow from cleanrom to jellybean 4.1.
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
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kc_exactly said:
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
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pretty things are soon to come. Just need to gets bugs and such out. My work somewhat, but mostly others devs I have been talking to.
kc_exactly said:
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
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Agreed. Pressure should be put on LG to update and release source. This is what we need to get more things rolling.
That being said, even though this software is only ICS, this is my first Android that I don't mind stock. I've run all the versions of ZV9 so far and stock deodex with some tweaks runs wonderfully. I'm coming from Touch wiz and Sense systems where they skin and change everything. I'll always be a Vanilla head, but I'm just as stoked to see what LG does with jellybean. This stock software isn't that far from AOSP really.
Also I don't see what the hoopla is about trying to port Nexus 4. This phone has way more potential than that.
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I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
I completely agree. However, is this all that surprising? This is my first LG but it's my understanding they're notoriously bad with updates.
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nickespi said:
^^^ I agree with what you said. In fact ive seen this.on many phones. Most of the blame is on lg for releasing the phone half ass. And also there wasent enough marketing put into the phone quite honest. By no means this isnt a flagship phone. Just because its labled as one. True the specs are nice but the fact that released with bugs and with ICS is complete bullcrap and a let down for sure. Further its just the nature of this forum to have to many chiefs not enough indians type of deal. Best way to learn anything is just to read up learn a little bit and have a clear mind and confidence u wont mess up your phone hahaha?
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If you didn't want ICS why'd you buy it? ICS runs perfect on this phone so far I'm glad there isn't much to fix. Remember the epic or the photon or the evo/evo3d those phones had issues this one has one wake lock and gets a little warm and the keyboard bug was fixed, by lg. I am grateful that this phone has little to no bugs and also that we have these skilled devs that are not only willing to tackle some of the issues to make this phone as perfect as possible but also that they're working at all to get cm or aosp on the device. Were not entitled to anything and like I said the phone already runs and looks great so we can be patient
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If you didn't want ICS why'd you buy it? ICS runs perfect on this phone so far I'm glad there isn't much to fix. Remember the epic or the photon or the evo/evo3d those phones had issues this one has one wake lock and gets a little warm and the keyboard bug was fixed, by lg. I am grateful that this phone has little to no bugs and also that we have these skilled devs that are not only willing to tackle some of the issues to make this phone as perfect as possible but also that they're working at all to get cm or aosp on the device. Were not entitled to anything and like I said the phone already runs and looks great so we can be patient
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are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldn't you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
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One last thing actually as a consumer we are entitled to timely updates by LG as Big as a company as they are to put the correct resources in the right places to ensure its consumers who pay for there premium product to have the most up to date software!! It would also make dev a hell of a lot easier too.
It has not been long yet so i have a little patience left..
nickespi said:
are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldent you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
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no love for the photon, you know it has 4.2 right?
nickespi said:
are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldn't you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
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One last thing actually as a consumer we are entitled to timely updates by LG as Big as a company as they are to put the correct resources in the right places to ensure its consumers who pay for there premium product to have the most up to date software!! It would also make dev a hell of a lot easier too.
It has not been long yet so i have a little patience left..
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Fine OK you have a longer rant you win.
As a consumer were entitled to a working phone that works out of the box. If lg figured they could make stable software with ice cream sandwich so be it. The phone runs great on it.
And if youre gonna speak of being a consumer then you should save your rants for lg not xda. The devs are just doing what they can no need to get pushy
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no love for the photon, you know it has 4.2 right?
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Yeah I know Joker, but the phone didnt hold my interest long enough!! I waited and waited, had to kick it to the curb!! Does Wimax work on the 4.2? Because the unlock bootloader and no wimax isnt an option
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Fine OK you have a longer rant you win.
As a consumer were entitled to a working phone that works out of the box. If lg figured they could make stable software with ice cream sandwich so be it. The phone runs great on it.
And if youre gonna speak of being a consumer then you should save your rants for lg not xda. The devs are just doing what they can no need to get pushy
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Pushy?
I cant even take you serious!! Bring facts*
As Stated its simply not good for business* Fact*. This is the Gen section so all rants apply here, regardless of your personal opinions/feelings - Maybe you can state your opinion and try not to tell people what to THINK. LOL I guess you would also fall into my statement about "Chiefs & Indians"??
IT GOES UNSAID THAT THE DEVS DESERVE CREDIT (They work with what they're given) - no need to constantly push that on people, obviously the devs are in control. To many of them there is some Incentive that also goes unsaid or unheard too. But to each their own!!
Hopefully the JB update for the Korean version means good news for us too!! Cant Wait*** I know there will be some good dev!
nickespi said:
Yeah I know Joker, but the phone didnt hold my interest long enough!! I waited and waited, had to kick it to the curb!! Does Wimax work on the 4.2? Because the unlock bootloader and no wimax isnt an option
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Pushy?
I cant even take you serious!! Bring facts*
As Stated its simply not good for business* Fact*. This is the Gen section so all rants apply here, regardless of your personal opinions/feelings - Maybe you can state your opinion and try not to tell people what to THINK. LOL I guess you would also fall into my statement about "Chiefs & Indians"??
IT GOES UNSAID THAT THE DEVS DESERVE CREDIT (They work with what they're given) - no need to constantly push that on people, obviously the devs are in control. To many of them there is some Incentive that also goes unsaid or unheard too. But to each their own!!
Hopefully the JB update for the Korean version means good news for us too!! Cant Wait*** I know there will be some good dev!
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I agree with everything you said I just think its easier to be patient when things are kept in perspective. I too am disappointed lg didn't reach they're original promise of jb by December but I'm happy the phone works great and that lg didn't hurt the software TOO MUCH so there isn't problems.
And I'm glad you said you appreciate the devs work I just didn't wanna see the opposite and assumed you were being pushy because you said you agree with that guys post that sounded very demanding just cuz he couldn't see work done on irc.
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