I just realized that I most likely will NEVER get LTE where I live, I don't even have 4G. So, what is the point of waiting to buy an LTE capable phone if it's never coming to me anyway? They can still use 3G right? It's kind of frustrating knowing that I won't be getting it in my area, and if I do, it will be years from now, I think that's kind of bull****!!!
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I just realized that I most likely will NEVER get LTE where I live, I don't even have 4G. So, what is the point of waiting to buy an LTE capable phone if it's never coming to me anyway? They can still use 3G right? It's kind of frustrating knowing that I won't be getting it in my area, and if I do, it will be years from now, I think that's kind of bull****!!!
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I would consider another carrier if service is that unbearable with no foreseeable 4G services ever coming to your area, assuming 3G service is horrible.
First of all, where do you live?
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First of all, where do you live?
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Lebanon, Pennsylvania; according to his location on profile. Sprint activity is really slow anywhere near him.
Verizon.
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Yes Lebanon, Pennsylvania. The sprint store at my local mall has to go outside to do activations..... That's just sad! I don't want to switch though. I like the phones, and the price. Plus I'm only paying $20 a month being a 3rd line on my parents plan.
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You would think a Sprint store would have an Airave...
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You would think a Sprint store would have an Airave...
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Yes you would... But apparently not...
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Switch carriers bro. No sense paying good money for high-end service that isn't available.
For market penetration, as previously mentioned VZW or possibly AT&T would be your best bet.
There plans, and phones suck though! I'm used to unlimited data I don't think I could handle that. Do you think if I said something to sprint there might be some small chance they do something?
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Hmm.. I just checked some maps and it seems Lebanon doesn't have any actual Sprint towers. Your city is right next to some towers that are getting NV upgrades though but none in the actual city.
It might be a Shentel area, but I'm not certain. Shentel is a subsidiary / partner of sprint and is also doing "NV" roll-out in coordination with sprint.
Actually I do think you're in a shentel market as Lebanon is not far from Harrisburg which IS a shentel market. In that case, considering there's no Sprint towers in that entire region of Harrisburg and extending to Lebanon... you will probably get LTE and NV upgrades from Shentel.
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Hmm.. I just checked some maps and it seems Lebanon doesn't have any actual Sprint towers. Your city is right next to some towers that are getting NV upgrades though but none in the actual city.
It might be a Shentel area, but I'm not certain. Shentel is a subsidiary / partner of sprint and is also doing "NV" roll-out in coordination with sprint.
Actually I do think you're in a shentel market as Lebanon is not far from Harrisburg which IS a shentel market. In that case, considering there's no Sprint towers in that entire region of Harrisburg and extending to Lebanon... I'll you will get LTE and NV upgrades from Shentel.
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How did you figure all that out?
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Google
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E4GTUser94 said:
How did you figure all that out?
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Knowing where to go for information on network vision roll out...
cough www.s4gru.com cough
Move to a different town?
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Move to a different town?
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I'd rather not move from where I lived all my life just for better cell service. I just think they should put at least something here instead of nothing
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Join the club dude lol. Switch or quit cryin. Sprint doesn't care about smaller markets
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I'd rather not move from where I lived all my life just for better cell service. I just think they should put at least something here instead of nothing
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You do have something there. Your area is part of Shentel as I've stated. Shentel is a subsidiary/partner of sprint and is also part of the network vision roll out. Your area is serviced by Alcatel-Lucent and is making steady progress in Harrisburg which also is literally next door to Lebanon, PA. You WILL get LTE 800mhz/1900mhz and likely CW 2.5ghz and NV upgraded 3g. All sprint and affiliates will be upgraded to that standard. It takes time but last check, Shentel is making good progress.
Here is more info on your area..
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/8...market-shenandoah-valleyhagerstownharrisburg/
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So they are doing network vision updates in my area.
The area's that are done are pretty nice. No boost in signal which is fine, but the data speeds are fantastic! Unfortunately that's downtown only. The rest of the city on the other hand though had it's tower's taken offline for the upgrade and the towers serving us is now just the ones downtown. At home i went from 4ish bars to roaming missing calls, texts and such. Wouldn't care but I missed a few phone interviews today and pretty livid about that.
Hopefully I'll be reaping those benefits soon, and hopefully they are deploying lte not just upgrading the cdma.
/end rant
There are some of us who experience no signal all the time and it's not from towers being taken down to be upgraded as well so cheer up
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There are some of us who experience no signal all the time and it's not from towers being taken down to be upgraded as well so cheer up
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Word. I second that.
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My "4g" experience with sprint, is 600ish Kbps at best down, yet somehow 1.2-1.4 Mbps up. Eh, at least I get descent call quality.
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Calls here at school in Fresno, CA have taken a dump but I didn't know Nv was coming so soon
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My "4g" experience with sprint, is 600ish Kbps at best down, yet somehow 1.2-1.4 Mbps up. Eh, at least I get descent call quality.
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99% sure upload is throttled to 1.5 Mbps. Being the total capacity of each tower is not being hammered for upload you usually see the 1.4* Mbps like I do. Download on the other hand is getting hammered.
Before anyone compains omg throttled. That is how it is supposed to be done, when you have a limited resource you qos throttle it.
4g in my area LA works well. In doors its pretty **** but 3g is terrible
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So they are doing network vision updates in my area.
The area's that are done are pretty nice. No boost in signal which is fine, but the data speeds are fantastic! Unfortunately that's downtown only. The rest of the city on the other hand though had it's tower's taken offline for the upgrade and the towers serving us is now just the ones downtown. At home i went from 4ish bars to roaming missing calls, texts and such. Wouldn't care but I missed a few phone interviews today and pretty livid about that.
Hopefully I'll be reaping those benefits soon, and hopefully they are deploying lte not just upgrading the cdma.
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Ask sprint for an airave
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There are some of us who experience no signal all the time and it's not from towers being taken down to be upgraded as well so cheer up
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Because there are some of us that check coverage maps, before we sign a carrier's contract.
That is obviously Sprint's fault.
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Because there are some of us that check coverage maps, before we sign a carrier's contract.
That is obviously Sprint's fault.
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The coverage map for my area still shows Wimax as being available. 2 years later still nothing. So.... Some of us do check, and get done in by false or misleading info. Which ironically is sprints fault
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The coverage map for my area still shows Wimax as being available. 2 years later still nothing. So.... Some of us do check, and get done in by false or misleading info. Which ironically is sprints fault
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Too many people making excuses for corporations these days.
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Because there are some of us that check coverage maps, before we sign a carrier's contract.
That is obviously Sprint's fault.
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Because their coverage maps are soooo accurate.
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Just want a quick spot to check lte service around the country. I travel alot and wanna be able to share locations as well.
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Seriously google is your friend.
http://s4gru.com/
Browsing suck on this network this app runs faster. i can't do nothing on 3g Browsing . But using this apps knowing the locations from this app i use everyday helps. It's really bad in illinois 3g is horrible. I just came from T-Mobile a month ago.
I keep my phone on cdma all the time to save battery.
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Not gonna be LTE in my area for awhile but 3G in my are has much improved.
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i have it on my gs3 im in houston northwest area
im on sprint
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Just want a quick spot to check lte service around the country. I travel alot and wanna be able to share locations as well.
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Recently where I work, we had a meeting with Sprint network engineers and corporate Sprint sales people and I asked them when we should expect LTE to be in our area (West Texas more specifically Abilene, TX)
The engineer said that we should get LTE here in late 2013, third or fourth quarter
In translation to me, that means early to mid 2014! HAHA
I can't wait, I gave up a 4G phone to hop to the S III with LTE radio to be ready for it
I just thought I'd post this - I know it's off topic, but this is definitely worth a thread.
http://bgr.com/2012/11/16/google-wireless-carrier-launch-2013/
Once I find it, I'll update this thread with the spectrum that Dish owns.
EDIT: Dish Network owns AWS-4 Spectrum running at 2000Mhz and 2200Mhz.
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I just thought I'd post this - I know it's off topic, but this is definitely worth a thread.
http://bgr.com/2012/11/16/google-wireless-carrier-launch-2013/
Once I find it, I'll update this thread with the spectrum that Dish owns.
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bery nice how much?
Bummer...I guess this means they won't be buying Sprint after all. Although I guess the whole SoftBank thing kind of put that to bed, didn't it? I so badly wanted that to happen!
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Bummer...I guess this means they won't be buying Sprint after all. Although I guess the whole SoftBank thing kind of put that to bed, didn't it? I so badly wanted that to happen!
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I honestly think Sprint will be involved. They're building out their network but there's no way they can get a nation covered by 2013. They will likely partner with Sprint with their lte network for its coverage until they get a hold of things. Reason being, they want to compete against Verizon and At&t, and T-Mobile has the speeds they need, but not exactly the coverage. When sprint finishes their network vision, it'll be on par with Verizon in terms of speeds and coverage.
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im predicting $30-50/month for unlimited everything with no throttling.
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I honestly think Sprint will be involved. They're building out their network but there's no way they can get a nation covered by 2013. They will likely partner with Sprint with their lte network for its coverage until they get a hold of things. Reason being, they want to compete against Verizon and At&t, and T-Mobile has the speeds they need, but not exactly the coverage. When sprint finishes their network vision, it'll be on par with Verizon in terms of speeds and coverage.
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Agree with you on that one. I actually think it might be better as Sprint is upgrading every tower in their network with a few exceptions. I'm also excited Sprint just bought some people and spectrum from US Cellular in the Chicago market. In two years, Sprint will have THE best network in Chicago, and I'm happy about that.
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im predicting $30-50/month for unlimited everything with no throttling.
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Lol very funny.
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im predicting $30-50/month for unlimited everything with no throttling.
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They will probably be very tempting when it comes to their entry level pricing. Google likes to recruit a lot of customers by promotions that they lose money on, then make the money from elsewhere. (Ie: Google Play Market. If they sell only Android phones, more android apps will be bought from the market.)
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im predicting $30-50/month for unlimited everything with no throttling.
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The article says the Google network will be data-only, no call minutes or SMS/MMS. That stuff would be handled as VoIP, most likely through Google Voice.
So, I'm guessing it would be $20-40/month for unlimited data. Any sort of cap obviously wouldn't work for a data-only network.
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The article says the Google network will be data-only, no call minutes or SMS/MMS. That stuff would be handled as VoIP, most likely through Google Voice.
So, I'm guessing it would be $20-40/month for unlimited data. Any sort of cap obviously wouldn't work for a data-only network.
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That would be the bees knees and a logical evolution I hop right on that band wagon
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That means if they go on the Sprint network on solely data it could bog down them down. I'm really curious what their infrastructure plans are.
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pyrosin said:
That means if they go on the Sprint network on solely data it could bog down them down. I'm really curious what their infrastructure plans are.
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Dish Network owns AWS-4 spectrum at 2000Mhz/2200Mhz spectrum. This frequency covers slightly less customers with slightly less building penetration. The best way to think of it is between Sprint's 3G and Wimax coverage.
If they decide to go with Sprint in the meantime, they'll probably be forced to have a cap on data until they get their own network on the ground. Google will definitely have a strong presence in the U.S. cellular market.
dish is horrible at making deals, look at what is going on with amc, they are having problems trying to get em back in there line up. I could see this deal collapsing if google mentions money.
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Bc of AMC they are horrible w deals? Lol this stuff happens w all service providers
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bootny said:
Bc of AMC they are horrible w deals? Lol this stuff happens w all service providers
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Yea it does happen all the time, but amc is one of 5 or 6 channels that was dropped. Just bc they didnt want to give em more money, its been over a year and they still have yet to come to a resolution. Lets look at direct tv, when they had that 17 channel problem, they got that done within a week. So yes i do think they are bad at making deals or getting deals, resolved.
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Yea it does happen all the time, but amc is one of 5 or 6 channels that was dropped. Just bc they didnt want to give em more money, its been over a year and they still have yet to come to a resolution. Lets look at direct tv, when they had that 17 channel problem, they got that done within a week. So yes i do think they are bad at making deals or getting deals, resolved.
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I know this discussion has taken a strange turn, but AMC is back on Dish
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I know this discussion has taken a strange turn, but AMC is back on Dish
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I was about to say the same and judging a company on channel deals is a bit ridiculous. It has nothing to do with wireless phone technology.
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If google goes through with this I seriously doubt they'd use any CDMA carrier for any kind of backbone.
Every nexus device they've released has always been on GSM networks first and I don't even think the Nexus 4 will hit Sprint or Verizon.
Google loves the sim cards.
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If google goes through with this I seriously doubt they'd use any CDMA carrier for any kind of backbone.
Every nexus device they've released has always been on GSM networks first and I don't even think the Nexus 4 will hit Sprint or Verizon.
Google loves the sim cards.
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Google's looking at data only network, which means it'll need fast speeds to support voice over IP. LTE is a gsm based technology and Sprint is Google's best carrier friend (Google Voice, Google Play bill to account features, etc.)
~OS
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Out Of The Ground I Rise To Grace
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Posted this on E4GT thread but this is great news.
Puts them in a position to have an LTE compatible device that could work in Japan, China and US.
For Softbank (and Sprint) that's big.
i though sprint had already bought them out? and it wasnt clear anymore it was just sprints network and their control?
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i though sprint had already bought them out? and it wasnt clear anymore it was just sprints network and their control?
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they took control with 70%...this would be full purchase...combined with new articles on a dish network/google deal yesterday
all good news
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This deal gives sprint about 5 times more lte bandwidth. ... Just kind of a formality since sprint owns a majority of it already but it would make it easier to roll out lte and they would answer to no one else ... cox and a couple other companies are owners of clear also
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This deal won't fall through. Sprint is trying to low ball Clearwire. Sprint offered to buy Clearwire out for $2.90 a share but the stock is already over that amount @ $3.25
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Hopefully this move will speed up LTE rollout plans.
::selfish rant starting::
It was supposed to be in Nashville already and I'm still stuck on 3G.
::ends selfish rant::
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emeraldayotte said:
Hopefully this move will speed up LTE rollout plans.
::selfish rant starting::
It was supposed to be in Nashville already and I'm still stuck on 3G.
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Phoenix is the 6th most populated city in this country and has no 4g at all...
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Phoenix is the 6th most populated city in this country and has no 4g at all...
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It's coming. They complete more and more here in Dallas every week. I now maintain LTE for my entire commute. I streamed football via slingbox the entire ride home today without interruption. ..something I have never accomplished on 3g...and rarely accomplish on my ATT Note 1
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shook187 said:
This deal won't fall through. Sprint is trying to low ball Clearwire. Sprint offered to buy Clearwire out for $2.90 a share but the stock is already over that amount @ $3.25
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looks like the deal is going to go through
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/17/sprint-buys-clearwire/
jyan_osu said:
looks like the deal is going to fall through
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/17/sprint-buys-clearwire/
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Guess not - it went through:
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/12/17/sprint-reaches-deal-to-buy-out-clearwire/
garwynn said:
Guess not - it went through:
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/12/17/sprint-reaches-deal-to-buy-out-clearwire/
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I meant to say go through.. not fall through
00mred00 said:
It's coming. They complete more and more here in Dallas every week. I now maintain LTE for my entire commute. I streamed football via slingbox the entire ride home today without interruption. ..something I have never accomplished on 3g...and rarely accomplish on my ATT Note 1
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I have been noticing it getting progressively better around DFW in the two months I've had my note2 as well
bankheist said:
I have been noticing it getting progressively better around DFW in the two months I've had my note2 as well
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whats up guy. headed over to the shop tomorrow am btw.. dropping off your 3d
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Any body interested, we have a new prl - 25016
Posting this so we can hopefully track our prl's
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Any body interested, we have a new prl - 25016
Posting this so we can hopefully track our prl's
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i wish there was a way to flash it for us non stock users so we dont have to keep switching roms
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Any body interested, we have a new prl - 25016
Posting this so we can hopefully track our prl's
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I would totally care but sprint doesn't seem to care about the Denver area. Theres wimax in like a 10 block radius and promises for years we'd get more.... Now they're switching to lte and more promises but for the last 3 years its always been their sucky 3g
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Same here in Salt Lake. Sucky/spotty 4g. No LTE in sight.
But at least I'm paying for someone to have lte. Cuz it sure ain't me.
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Phoenix is the same way. Promises after promises. Now it doesn't look like we get even basic 4g for years yet. Stuck with 3g on the maybe eventually network.
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I'm in nj and have spotty 4g so don't feel to bad
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ruthlessbeatle said:
I'm in nj and have spotty 4g so don't feel to bad
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VA area near TN, Pretty good 4g with a chance of LTE every now and again.
Hate to say it but I do miss Verizon service.
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i wish there was a way to flash it for us non stock users so we dont have to keep switching roms
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You can manually write whatever PRL you want with DFS CDMA Tool & a PC, regardless of which ROM you're on.
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Im in Atl and get 4G at home and work.
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You can manually write whatever PRL you want with DFS CDMA Tool & a PC, regardless of which ROM you're on.
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you have a link for that program? Would be pretty cool I'd we had someone fix the CDMA tools app or make us an easy "one click" sprint prl/profile updater.. If there is one already phase forgive the noobness....
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No you can't
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You can manually write whatever PRL you want with DFS CDMA Tool & a PC, regardless of which ROM you're on.
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To be able to connect to DFS you need to have DIAG mode enabled, and its only available in Stock roms and ASOP
engine95 said:
Same here in Salt Lake. Sucky/spotty 4g. No LTE in sight.
But at least I'm paying for someone to have lte. Cuz it sure ain't me.
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I was in SLC last month and had solid 4g in the neighborhood above the capitol. Didn't go too far from there so I can't speak to other areas.
I've literally traveled all over America due to being in a touring metal band, and I can honestly say that 1. Sprint's service ****ing SUCKS ****. And 2. 4G LTE is extremely spotty. Luckily at home here in Baltimore I have 4G all over, but anywhere other than the east coast, you're lucky to get LTE. I had great service when I was in Denver earlier this summer, but no 4G whatsoever if I recall correctly (And I don't, because Colorado is a... "Medical" state. )
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I've literally traveled all over America due to being in a touring metal band, and I can honestly say that 1. Sprint's service ****ing SUCKS ****. And 2. 4G LTE is extremely spotty. Luckily at home here in Baltimore I have 4G all over, but anywhere other than the east coast, you're lucky to get LTE. I had great service when I was in Denver earlier this summer, but no 4G whatsoever if I recall correctly (And I don't, because Colorado is a... "Medical" state. )
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That's why I love my state haha. But yeah sprint sucks out here
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I was in SLC last month and had solid 4g in the neighborhood above the capitol. Didn't go too far from there so I can't speak to other areas.
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iamterence said:
I've literally traveled all over America due to being in a touring metal band, and I can honestly say that 1. Sprint's service ****ing SUCKS ****. And 2. 4G LTE is extremely spotty. Luckily at home here in Baltimore I have 4G all over, but anywhere other than the east coast, you're lucky to get LTE. I had great service when I was in Denver earlier this summer, but no 4G whatsoever if I recall correctly (And I don't, because Colorado is a... "Medical" state. )
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I lol'ed at the your description of how Sprint's service sucks...especially since I generally agree. But down here in Dallas, I get pretty great LTE coverage. I think because we were one of the first markets to launch LTE. In some places in town I get 30MB+ download speed so I cant complain. But in the outskirts of town and suburbs...it isnt nearly that good but I'll still usually be able to connect to LTE.
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you have a link for that program? Would be pretty cool I'd we had someone fix the CDMA tools app or make us an easy "one click" sprint prl/profile updater.. If there is one already phase forgive the noobness....
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I've got to take care of a couple things this morning, but when I'm done (probably about 2 hours) I'll post a full write-up.
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I flashed a stock rom to get the updated PRL. Looks good. What's different about it?
Also, I get pretty decent 4G coverage in Houston, Texas with Sprint, even out to the suburbs on the north side. It's not nearly as fast as the service I had with verizon, though, but it is at least consistent.
Once you get past the city limits on the east or south, though, both 3G and 4G get iffy.
I have awsome Sprint Airave coverage at home.
I hope someone makes a app like RoamControl that works with our Optimus G so my phone will work outside of my house.
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Another new PRL 25017
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