Short rant about network vision - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

So they are doing network vision updates in my area.
The area's that are done are pretty nice. No boost in signal which is fine, but the data speeds are fantastic! Unfortunately that's downtown only. The rest of the city on the other hand though had it's tower's taken offline for the upgrade and the towers serving us is now just the ones downtown. At home i went from 4ish bars to roaming missing calls, texts and such. Wouldn't care but I missed a few phone interviews today and pretty livid about that.
Hopefully I'll be reaping those benefits soon, and hopefully they are deploying lte not just upgrading the cdma.
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There are some of us who experience no signal all the time and it's not from towers being taken down to be upgraded as well so cheer up

im0rtalz said:
There are some of us who experience no signal all the time and it's not from towers being taken down to be upgraded as well so cheer up
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Word. I second that.
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My "4g" experience with sprint, is 600ish Kbps at best down, yet somehow 1.2-1.4 Mbps up. Eh, at least I get descent call quality.
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Lock into roaming! You won't miss a thing!
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Calls here at school in Fresno, CA have taken a dump but I didn't know Nv was coming so soon
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abegoods said:
My "4g" experience with sprint, is 600ish Kbps at best down, yet somehow 1.2-1.4 Mbps up. Eh, at least I get descent call quality.
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99% sure upload is throttled to 1.5 Mbps. Being the total capacity of each tower is not being hammered for upload you usually see the 1.4* Mbps like I do. Download on the other hand is getting hammered.
Before anyone compains omg throttled. That is how it is supposed to be done, when you have a limited resource you qos throttle it.

4g in my area LA works well. In doors its pretty **** but 3g is terrible
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morphis568 said:
So they are doing network vision updates in my area.
The area's that are done are pretty nice. No boost in signal which is fine, but the data speeds are fantastic! Unfortunately that's downtown only. The rest of the city on the other hand though had it's tower's taken offline for the upgrade and the towers serving us is now just the ones downtown. At home i went from 4ish bars to roaming missing calls, texts and such. Wouldn't care but I missed a few phone interviews today and pretty livid about that.
Hopefully I'll be reaping those benefits soon, and hopefully they are deploying lte not just upgrading the cdma.
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Ask sprint for an airave
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im0rtalz said:
There are some of us who experience no signal all the time and it's not from towers being taken down to be upgraded as well so cheer up
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Because there are some of us that check coverage maps, before we sign a carrier's contract.
That is obviously Sprint's fault.
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azyouthinkeyeiz said:
Because there are some of us that check coverage maps, before we sign a carrier's contract.
That is obviously Sprint's fault.
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The coverage map for my area still shows Wimax as being available. 2 years later still nothing. So.... Some of us do check, and get done in by false or misleading info. Which ironically is sprints fault
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captblaze said:
The coverage map for my area still shows Wimax as being available. 2 years later still nothing. So.... Some of us do check, and get done in by false or misleading info. Which ironically is sprints fault
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Too many people making excuses for corporations these days.
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azyouthinkeyeiz said:
Because there are some of us that check coverage maps, before we sign a carrier's contract.
That is obviously Sprint's fault.
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Because their coverage maps are soooo accurate.
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Sprint LTE Coverage map

Saw this on Engadget and I am happy to at least see my area will be covered eventually. Check it out or not.....Enjoy
http://tinyurl.com/888mbhx
Network Vision/LTE Deployment Running List
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Holy batwings, it looks like my area will actually be covered; although I'll believe it when I see it. lol
Haha, LTE in my little rural western PA, that gets me pretty psyched.
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Makes me think twice about the Nexus....just becuz.. I know my Epic is better but I got multiple lines and would love to compare speeds
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Saw this and cussed a little. Central VA ignored again. Knew WiMax wan'tt happening but figured with several Universities and Government installations around maybe LTE would make it here.
Thanks Sprint.
but you'll get roaming lte. better than nothing i suppose.
Niiiice. All of Maryland is covered.
Now I just need that blasted Galaxy Nexus...
why the gnex... give sprint like 2 months and get the one x seriously the gnex is so far behind even compaired to our phones.
sweet my area is in there....looks like my contract will be up next year so plenty of time to get an lte phone
I thougth when they dropped clearwire things would slow down?
my part of Arizona is covered
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zinc99 said:
I thougth when they dropped clearwire things would slow down?
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Clearwire was never dropped. You might be mistaken with Lightsquare.. Sprint always planed on building its own LTE network. Clearwire and Lightsquare are just extra support.
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There is no roam agreement for lte and won't be unless the FCC mandates it .... Just like VZW doesn't let you roam 3g but certain circumstances....
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Epix4G said:
There is no roam agreement for lte and won't be unless the FCC mandates it .... Just like VZW doesn't let you roam 3g but certain circumstances....
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They should.
I'm really surprised that it isn't a much larger area considering that Network Vision was supposed to bring LTE to every tower on Sprint's network and their network coverage was supposed to expand pretty significantly with the Network Vision project.
We'll see.
Am I missing something? Do they consolidate areas in some weird arrangement? The state lines are really f'd up can somebody explain this to me?
Based on this though I'm good since I live in Kansas, specifically Overland Park
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Am I missing something? Do they consolidate areas in some weird arrangement? The state lines are really f'd up can somebody explain this to me?
Based on this though I'm good since I live in Kansas, specifically Overland Park
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Your in sprint HQ do you think you don't already have lte...., that would be like Microsoft not having the internet
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Epix4G said:
There is no roam agreement for lte and won't be unless the FCC mandates it .... Just like VZW doesn't let you roam 3g but certain circumstances....
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but sprint lets you roam 3g. i do it all the time. though true i dont know anything if there is a roaming lte. just going off the map.
How is roaming gonna work?
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ayman86 said:
but sprint lets you roam 3g. i do it all the time. though true i dont know anything if there is a roaming lte. just going off the map.
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Sprint has roaming agreements with the major carriers VZW etc but they don't allow roaming 3g but on certain prl ....so that is why people hack PRls to allow 3g like the 11115 corporate prl allows 3g in certain areas .... But most roaming on VZW is 1x
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wtf happend to michigan lol

[GAME] How many phones?

How many phones do you think I will go through equipped with 4LTE until I can actually use the 4LTE?
I am on my 4th 4G phone right now, still with no 4G.
Lol, until you're in an area that has 4G coverage?
Depends, check s4gru for your rollout schedule then check sprints network upgrade site and see if your schedule is up yet. S4gru has my area scheduled for phase 2 this year and sprint has my zip in the next 6month upgrade list. I've already had connection issues occasionally and when I've called sprint about it they've said they are upgrading the towers for network vision in my area and I should expect intermittent connection loss as they work on the towers, I've already seen a pretty decent jump in 3g speeds. I used to get 800kbps -1.2mbps regularly now peak I'm getting 1.2-2mbps and off peak 1.5-2.8mbps, and I never had 4g wimax here just decent 3g mostly because my house is in a sparsely populated area so my tower is well below load
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Well I am on 2 now almost for sure going to be 3-4 before Reno sees any 4G. and now with the switch to LTE it is going to be even longer.
I would expect Sprint to roll out LTE much quicker than Wimax. The problem with Wimax is it was beta and LTE is VHS. Sprint stopped rolling it out when they realized they would have to transition to LTE in order to be competitive.
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Depends, check s4gru for your rollout schedule then check sprints network upgrade site and see if your schedule is up yet. S4gru has my area scheduled for phase 2 this year and sprint has my zip in the next 6month upgrade list. I've already had connection issues occasionally and when I've called sprint about it they've said they are upgrading the towers for network vision in my area and I should expect intermittent connection loss as they work on the towers, I've already seen a pretty decent jump in 3g speeds. I used to get 800kbps -1.2mbps regularly now peak I'm getting 1.2-2mbps and off peak 1.5-2.8mbps, and I never had 4g wimax here just decent 3g mostly because my house is in a sparsely populated area so my tower is well below load
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Where did you find your zip in an upgrade list.
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rujelus22 said:
Well I am on 2 now almost for sure going to be 3-4 before Reno sees any 4G. and now with the switch to LTE it is going to be even longer.
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y do u need lte when the casino's have wifi
riggs170 said:
Where did you find your zip in an upgrade list.
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I forget the sprint site off top of my head but sprint.com has a tower upgrade site that lets you put in your address or zip and tells you all upgrades done in the prior 6 months or scheduled in the upcoming 6 months, there's a link to it around here somewhere I usually get to it from my account page on sprint.com
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Sprint.com/network
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Sprint.com/network
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There ya go, I thought it was something like that but wasn't sure. I wanted to say it was network.sprint.com lol
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2-1/2
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Signs of 4g lte???

I'm hoping that sprint is actually adding 4g lte in my area. My phone has had 1x for 12 hours now but with decent data speeds? Anyone else go through this before you received lte
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Hmmmmmmmm.....
"ALL LTE discussions here, where, when, how fast!"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824897
Yeah....
Also, S4GRU.com for all your LTE info. But yes, Most have weird things go on while upgrading.
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ive been seeing a LOT of 1x lately in the long island, NY area
kegacide said:
ive been seeing a LOT of 1x lately in the long island, NY area
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4g in LI is a secondary market, but I bet they are already starting to change to Network Vision. The whole Island will have 4G LTE by mid to late 2013. As soon as the NYC market is finished your area will get a LTE bath.
I saw on the S4GRU map that Queens and parts of Hempstead was already being worked on for Network Vision.
yeah ive been hoping those predictions are true... i work in queens and am in NYC often, but haven't had to much 1x experiences there yet...
hear NYC should be by the end of this year, so hopefully wont have too long of a wait...
Dying for some LTE in the city and Bx, my phone is pretty much like a dummy model when I'm at work.
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I would love lte in the RGV.
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LTE was worth the wait
wellsey1126 said:
I'm hoping that sprint is actually adding 4g lte in my area. My phone has had 1x for 12 hours now but with decent data speeds? Anyone else go through this before you received lte
If that is CM I see it might just be a bug where it isn't displaying 1X/3G properly.....
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formuk said:
LTE was worth the wait
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Hope you still get those speeds a year from now when everyone has LTE phones and is on the network...
just usable internet would keep me happy.
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Thanks
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What to do...

I just realized that I most likely will NEVER get LTE where I live, I don't even have 4G. So, what is the point of waiting to buy an LTE capable phone if it's never coming to me anyway? They can still use 3G right? It's kind of frustrating knowing that I won't be getting it in my area, and if I do, it will be years from now, I think that's kind of bull****!!!
E4GTUser94 said:
I just realized that I most likely will NEVER get LTE where I live, I don't even have 4G. So, what is the point of waiting to buy an LTE capable phone if it's never coming to me anyway? They can still use 3G right? It's kind of frustrating knowing that I won't be getting it in my area, and if I do, it will be years from now, I think that's kind of bull****!!!
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I would consider another carrier if service is that unbearable with no foreseeable 4G services ever coming to your area, assuming 3G service is horrible.
First of all, where do you live?
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lilotimz said:
First of all, where do you live?
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Lebanon, Pennsylvania; according to his location on profile. Sprint activity is really slow anywhere near him.
Verizon.
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Yes Lebanon, Pennsylvania. The sprint store at my local mall has to go outside to do activations..... That's just sad! I don't want to switch though. I like the phones, and the price. Plus I'm only paying $20 a month being a 3rd line on my parents plan.
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You would think a Sprint store would have an Airave...
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Mattix724 said:
You would think a Sprint store would have an Airave...
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Yes you would... But apparently not...
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Switch carriers bro. No sense paying good money for high-end service that isn't available.
For market penetration, as previously mentioned VZW or possibly AT&T would be your best bet.
There plans, and phones suck though! I'm used to unlimited data I don't think I could handle that. Do you think if I said something to sprint there might be some small chance they do something?
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Hmm.. I just checked some maps and it seems Lebanon doesn't have any actual Sprint towers. Your city is right next to some towers that are getting NV upgrades though but none in the actual city.
It might be a Shentel area, but I'm not certain. Shentel is a subsidiary / partner of sprint and is also doing "NV" roll-out in coordination with sprint.
Actually I do think you're in a shentel market as Lebanon is not far from Harrisburg which IS a shentel market. In that case, considering there's no Sprint towers in that entire region of Harrisburg and extending to Lebanon... you will probably get LTE and NV upgrades from Shentel.
lilotimz said:
Hmm.. I just checked some maps and it seems Lebanon doesn't have any actual Sprint towers. Your city is right next to some towers that are getting NV upgrades though but none in the actual city.
It might be a Shentel area, but I'm not certain. Shentel is a subsidiary / partner of sprint and is also doing "NV" roll-out in coordination with sprint.
Actually I do think you're in a shentel market as Lebanon is not far from Harrisburg which IS a shentel market. In that case, considering there's no Sprint towers in that entire region of Harrisburg and extending to Lebanon... I'll you will get LTE and NV upgrades from Shentel.
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How did you figure all that out?
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Google
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E4GTUser94 said:
How did you figure all that out?
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Knowing where to go for information on network vision roll out...
cough www.s4gru.com cough
Move to a different town?
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slick_rick said:
Move to a different town?
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I'd rather not move from where I lived all my life just for better cell service. I just think they should put at least something here instead of nothing
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Join the club dude lol. Switch or quit cryin. Sprint doesn't care about smaller markets
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E4GTUser94 said:
I'd rather not move from where I lived all my life just for better cell service. I just think they should put at least something here instead of nothing
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You do have something there. Your area is part of Shentel as I've stated. Shentel is a subsidiary/partner of sprint and is also part of the network vision roll out. Your area is serviced by Alcatel-Lucent and is making steady progress in Harrisburg which also is literally next door to Lebanon, PA. You WILL get LTE 800mhz/1900mhz and likely CW 2.5ghz and NV upgraded 3g. All sprint and affiliates will be upgraded to that standard. It takes time but last check, Shentel is making good progress.
Here is more info on your area..
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/8...market-shenandoah-valleyhagerstownharrisburg/

Lte speed test Atlanta

Was in Atlanta for a short time today. Wish this was Jacksonville Florida lol.
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humdrum2009 said:
Was in Atlanta for a short time today. Wish this was Jacksonville Florida lol.
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Did you test the LTE in Jacksonville yet?
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digiblur said:
Did you test the LTE in Jacksonville yet?
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I tested twice and live in the heart of jax getting less than 7 the whole time.. is that normal
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digiblur said:
Did you test the LTE in Jacksonville yet?
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New test taken just now literally across the street from a sprint store haha in jax haha
32256 area
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Do you mean normal for Jacksonville or normal for LTE? As far as LTE, I guess it varies...Like I live in a spotty LTE area right now and pull anywhere between 5-9mbps but when I go down near Jerome Ave in the Bronx, I'm always pulling 20's. Today I got 33.29mbps in that same neighborhood. We'll all get there...hopefully sooner than later.
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Do you mean normal for Jacksonville or normal for LTE? As far as LTE, I guess it varies...Like I live in a spotty LTE area right now and pull anywhere between 5-9mbps but when I go down near Jerome Ave in the Bronx, I'm always pulling 20's. Today I got 33.29mbps in that same neighborhood. We'll all get there...hopefully sooner than later.
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Well I just noticed 4g come on today so I'm sure jax well only get better as towers turn on
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Lord Syrics Jr. said:
Well I just noticed 4g come on today so I'm sure jax well only get better as towers turn on
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Yep. Not a whole lot on just yet but enjoy the fact they are letting you guys test it way early.
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Lord Syrics Jr. said:
New test taken just now literally across the street from a sprint store haha in jax haha
32256 area
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Where was this? Can you map it next time via Sensorly?
I have been actively discovering lte sites in Jacksonville for a few weeks now. Is this off the i95/ BayMeadows exit?
This is the BayMeadows tower for me.
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I haven't seen Lte in jax
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humdrum2009 said:
I haven't seen Lte in jax
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Where in Jax are you? There's a lot of lte active now. Check out the Sensorly maps. (Sensorly.com or download the app from Google play.)
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I haven't seen Lte in jax
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Looks like 3 or 4 sites so far that people have found.
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Damn some of these lte speed tests are slower compared to Verizon/AT&T. Hopefully when the Sprint upgrades roll out a bit more, speeds will be faster.
That's from Arlington, VA.
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Ascertion said:
Where was this? Can you map it next time via Sensorly?
I have been actively discovering lte sites in Jacksonville for a few weeks now. Is this off the i95/ BayMeadows exit?
This is the BayMeadows tower for me.
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This is South side and bay meadows.. the publix there.. now I'm not getting above 6.5.. How did you get so high
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Lord Syrics Jr. said:
This is South side and bay meadows.. the publix there.. now I'm not getting above 6.5.. How did you get so high
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LTE is very signal strength dependent. EvDo RevA's (Sprint's 3G) speeds don't deteriorate unless it reaches a very low signal threshold. Next time you connect to the LTE site at Publix, open up your debugging menu and screenshot the LTE engineering screen and post it here.
With 6mbps, you have a rather low (-110dBm to -115 dBm signal strength). If your signal strength is high, then you should experience better speeds.
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Damn some of these lte speed tests are slower compared to Verizon/AT&T. Hopefully when the Sprint upgrades roll out a bit more, speeds will be faster.
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Sprint's in a position where they simply don't have the spectrum to deploy anything greater than a 5x5mhz carrier per market. This means LTE speeds will max out at about 38mbps, and even this is under extremely favorable conditions.
But worry not for Clearwire alone has more spectrum than Verizon does, and Clearwire, starting mid-2013 will be deploying LTE advanced on a 20x20mhz carrier! This means speeds will be up to 90mbps. Hang in there because even with Sprint's LTE maxing out at 38mbps, it's still very fast and the best part...unlimited.
Ascertion said:
LTE is very signal strength dependent. EvDo RevA's (Sprint's 3G) speeds don't deteriorate unless it reaches a very low signal threshold. Next time you connect to the LTE site at Publix, open up your debugging menu and screenshot the LTE engineering screen and post it here.
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How do I show this?
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Haha yes!! Just now at work (publix location)
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Lord Syrics Jr. said:
Haha yes!! Just now at work (publix location)
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##debug# dialer code, sprint is the password. Lte engineering screen will have everything listed there.
Nice speeds.
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But since LTE will be on every tower unlike the other carriers, there will be less people on each LTE carrier than the other guys.
And do you really need higher than 35 megabits on your phone... hell no. I'd be happy with 3 or 4!
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But since LTE will be on every tower unlike the other carriers, there will be less people on each LTE carrier than the other guys.
And do you really need higher than 35 megabits on your phone... hell no. I'd be happy with 3 or 4!
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Haha yeah I don't really see the point in it either except for downloading large files.
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