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Thinking about abandoning my SGS2 on ATT for Sprint

I'm on ATT with an SGSII right now and get ****ty data performance. Voice isn't that much better. I get like 1 - 2 Mbit download speeds, and the phone is capable of something like 18Mbit. I'm thinking about making the move to Sprint. Anything I should know? Anyone using an Epic 4G Touch in the SF Bay Area?

As far as data goes, you'll most likely not get those speeds on Sprint (as far as 1-2 Mbit) but just like anything YMMV (a lot here complain about their data speeds and they don't even get close to those speeds).
But to my knowledge, the AT&T version gets way more support in development due to it being GSM like the international SGS2, so ports are easier and what not. So if you like rooting you'll probably miss that.

If data speeds are your primary reason, then do not switch. There's a very good chance that your speeds would be even worse with Sprint. They're working on it, but their data network sucks right now.

Dchibro said:
If data speeds are your primary reason, then do not switch. There's a very good chance that your speeds would be even worse with Sprint. They're working on it, but their data network sucks right now.
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relative to where you are, i great great 3g and 4g speeds.
just like any other cell phone provider.
To the OP. I would say go buy one and test it out first in the places you go daily. I have no issues at all where I am with call quality or data speeds. Also the simply everything plan cant be beat.
However, as stated, the ATT version gets, MUCH more dev support because its GSM, and it will likely get updates first.
BUT, it is great to have the extra .2 of in inch on the screen and also to have an LED for notifications

On sprint, you will get 1-2 Mbit MAX download speeds. In almost every case, less than that.
If you have wimax in your area, then you could get anywhere from 5-15 Mbit (it varies greatly, and depends on signal strength). Most of the time when you're indoors you won't get great 4g signal strength.
If you consistently use more than 2gb of data per month, then sprint is a decent option, or verizon if they are still doing double data deals.
Last I heard sprint recently improved in SF bay area, so you may have good results.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sp...coverage-in-san-francisco-bay-area-2011-12-08
Sprint is also cheaper than AT&T, and many employers offer discounts for sprint.

If speed is your concern in good 4g areas all my tmobile friends get 15mb /2mb on thier sgs2
I have the sprint one i usually get 300kb-800kb/500kb in the day time
at night(2am-6am) 1000-13000/ 800-1000kb

I'm about to switch because of the throttling that att is about to start doing. Grandfathered into unlimited, but they don't like us using more than 5gb.
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If speed is something you desire, two words:
Don't
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As a 13 year Sprint customer, I have to say that I've never been more disappointed with their service. My 3G speeds have been terrible, and inconsistent on top of it (from bad to worse). I cannot in good conscience recommend that anyone switch to Sprint at the moment.
Hopefully they'll fix whatever's been broken for the last 60 days or so (and it could just be the iPhone effect), and I'll be able to once again recommend Sprint. At the moment, not so much...

I miss att i got the epic 4g touch and wish i was still on att. I would trade you if you switch i had good att speeds in union city ca 94587.
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I would not switch for data speeds. This is what I get right next to a tower at work. Granted I get maybe 250kbs at home, but I never get more than 40kbs while at work, sometimes like 10-15kbs. And its a heavily populated area. they are doing upgrades, or so they say.
Here's an overview of my last speed runs, not impressive...
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Yeah, for your own sake, do not switch just for the data speeds, not worth it, anything else Sprint is good.

Depends on where you are. I'm in Charlotte NC and Sprints data sucks ass. In the Northeast from Baltimore to New York is crazy fast especially in D.C. I been up there and sad to come back to slow molasses ass data. Thank god for wifi. Try the Epic Touch for two weeks and then decide.

4g from my house.
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I advise going to the Sprint store where you live and testing data speeds on the floor phones.
Then, if it's satisfactory, you always have 14 days if things change depending on other areas to travel frequently.
It really isn't helpful to you if someone that's on the other side of the country is telling you about their data speeds.
All carriers, even Verizon, vary based upon area.
As far as with the Epic Touch, make sure it's up to date so you don't have any LOS issue and you'll love the phone.

You really have to get one and try from home,work,etc and remember you only have 14 days to return. Here are some average marks for me...middle of the pack tests. 4g on different server about 150 miles away. That's why I have high ping...
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Lmao. Visit the sprint section before you think of it. May as well go to Verizon because you won't be happy with sprint data speeds at all. Ps winmax kills your battery something fierce

Around here Sprint has been sucking, but, I've tried Verizon recently...Sprint is actually extremely competitive with Verizon (3g) data speeds around here these days. I thought Sprint sucked around here, it ends up the grass is, in fact ,always green on the other side....in fact, it is actually as green and often greener on the Sprint side.
Is my point to OP that Sprint is good for his purposes? Lol. No, far from it. In fact quite the opposite. I could switch to AT*T for cheaper than my Sprint line (for tiered data, guh) but much much better data rates, or Verizon for better coverage and only slightly more expensive...but...I haven't. Why? When the meat hits the metal I've got something that is already great for me (acceptable speeds, relatively speaking) and have something I would hate to lose (unlimited data).
I think from the sound of OP that he has something that is great for him (can live with his tiered or throttled data) and has something he would hate to lose (2-4+mbps data rates).

mattykinsx said:
I advise going to the Sprint store where you live and testing data speeds on the floor phones.
Then, if it's satisfactory, you always have 14 days if things change depending on other areas to travel frequently.
It really isn't helpful to you if someone that's on the other side of the country is telling you about their data speeds.
All carriers, even Verizon, vary based upon area.
As far as with the Epic Touch, make sure it's up to date so you don't have any LOS issue and you'll love the phone.
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There's Matty giving the best answer again.. Nothings changed.
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Bigjim1488 said:
Lmao. Visit the sprint section before you think of it. May as well go to Verizon because you won't be happy with sprint data speeds at all. Ps winmax kills your battery something fierce
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wimax isn't too bad like it was on last years wimax devices. It sleeps frequently and battery lasts pretty long under moderate usage. Its probably better on battery than Verizon's LTE phones
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Sprint data... worse lately?

Has anyone else noticed just how much slower sprint is lately? I mean, we all knew that they've began having major issues last year, but now, seems worse. I literally can't get above .15mbps on any of my three phones. That's in most of the Denver/Aurora area. Before it was slow, now it is just not usable.
The only excuse Sprint ever has is the network vision, but really? I'm pretty fed up with this dial up.
I'll atop ranting now, am still under contract with them .
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Same thing with me in metro Detroit
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Damn, I know in Atlanta it is rather bad as well.
Just hard to remain optimistic, specially knowing that the unlimited model, while nice, isn't going to help with speed. Just too many people can abuse the already suffering network. While limits suck, they really force people to watch their data use, or pay for higher usage.
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I live near la and they've been doing their network update here. I've been getting speeds around 1500 kbps but for the last couple weeks I'm only averaging at 300 kbps now
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I live near la and they've been doing their network update here. I've been getting speeds around 1500 kbps but for the last couple weeks I'm only averaging at 300 kbps now
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Even at 1500, still pretty crappy when compared to ATT and TMO network speeds over hspa.
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It's like that in Jacksonville, FL too. Speeds have went down by nearly half.

To be honest I feel like there more consirend about virgin mobile and boost mobile than us ...since the fact people now a days don't want a contract and sprint keeps giving them phones that are similar to ours hence LG marquee and soon to be HTC evo design ...not to mention there both gonna have wimax ...aint that a slap in the face
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marksedge said:
To be honest I feel like there more consirend about virgin mobile and boost mobile than us ...since the fact people now a days don't want a contract and sprint keeps giving them phones that are similar to ours hence LG marquee and soon to be HTC evo design ...not to mention there both gonna have wimax ...aint that a slap in the face
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I checked out tmobile prepaid, and prepaid just makes more sense seems like. Yea, you pay full retail price if you want a nice phone, but you don't need to pay any hidden upgrade fees, or weird surcharges sprint has, nor is it as expensive. And I can't speak for everyone, but I honestly don't see network vision doing anything but allowing sprint catch up to the point where most others are already at, except for years later. And if they keep this unlimited model going, I only see the network continuing on suffering. Sure, Lte would be nice and the fact that all new high end sprint phones are lte capable. Unless you're in major 6 markets though, yore stuck on crawling 3g till at least 2014, that's when they plan to roll out lte here in Colorado, not to mention it will only be the initial roll out, only among major highways, even spottier than wimax.
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The thing I've noticed about CD a devices is that they don't drop calls nearly as often as GSM models do. I've noticed this with several devices amongst my family. I'm not saying cdma is immune to it, just that they tend to transfer from tower to tower better.
With that in mind, I'd probably go to Verizon if I switched... but I can't stand the amount of things they will charge you for. They charge to block numbers, GPS, etc. T-Mobile sounds ideal as far as pricing goes but if GSM drops calls often then I'm not too sure.

A few months ago i was on cricket with the og epic, i was tired of they crappy service so i was looking to switch. Sprint grabbed me with their truly unlimited data. Guess i should of researched speeds as well =/ but i have hopes for sprint, im stuck with them for 2 years and network vision should (hopefully) hit buffalo ny by then. if i dont get a significant increase in data quality i will most defiantly go with verizon. They may be a bit more expensive but hey, the phrase "you get what you pay for" may apply here

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The thing I've noticed about CD a devices is that they don't drop calls nearly as often as GSM models do. I've noticed this with several devices amongst my family. I'm not saying cdma is immune to it, just that they tend to transfer from tower to tower better.
With that in mind, I'd probably go to Verizon if I switched... but I can't stand the amount of things they will charge you for. They charge to block numbers, GPS, etc. T-Mobile sounds ideal as far as pricing goes but if GSM drops calls often then I'm not too sure.
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Really?! I prefer GSM over CDMA any day. Unless, we are talking about CDMA-Advanced. My reasoning is the whole data speed aspect. With GSM, your 3G speeds are much better due to HSPA and HSPA+ technology. On Sprint, have you ever seen speeds over 2.5mbps in an excellent coverage area with no network load? The max CDMA network that Sprint has can go is 3.2, which is theoretical. TMobile HSPA+21 network can reach 10-12mbps without many issues. HSPA+42, 19-25 in my area during off hours. Verizon CDMA, while much more consistent, isn't much faster than Sprint.
I understand your argument with dropped calls, but I actually have found the opposite to be true. I have less dropped calls while on the go on my T-Mo company phone (GNexus), vs any of the Sprint devices I have. And that is among same area. I am guessing our experiences differ due to coverage in respectable states.

Sprint was good here for a week or less when NV was apparently being worked on in my area.. now it is even worse than before! I'm not sure what they did to the nearest towers but everyone I know around complains lately that their signal inside their house is worse and not as reliable. I've been considering jumping ships to a different carrier, perhaps the T-Mobile prepaid plan... considering I only use like 40 mins a month and only need dependable fast data on the good. Sprint better hope LTE and NV starts working here in the L.A area

viper786 said:
Same thing with me in metro Detroit
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I'm in metro Detroit as well, and data was at least useable in the middle of the night. Now it is horrible all the time. It took me 5 hours to download most of a ROM yesterday, only to drop the download. Grrr

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I used to hit around 1 Meg in the morning. From this speed it drops into nearly single digits throughout the day.

My 3g speeds have gotten cut in half in San Diego this month. I don't even know what its like using the 4G option on this phone which leaves me a little bitter at this point. In fact, listening to others talk about 4G in their areas feels like a series of short stories, wise tales, and mere fables. I'm probably gonna switch to T-mobile once the GS3 drops next month since they are finally getting a decent phone line up. I'm getting tired of the emasculating feeling of begging my girlfriend for data as she hits the WIFI tether Icon of her Verizon unlimited droid all the while knowing that the 4G option in my notification bar is simply a useless battery draining light.

Ans I thought I had it bad lol. The funny thing is that I can take my tmobile phone ans my sprint phone to the sprint store ans tmo would test at least 2x faster vs sprint on wimax, that's with full bars since they have signal boosters at their stores.
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These are the fastest speeds in my area that I've gotten in a couple months. My upload is normally less than .10 Mbps.
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Sprint is becoming a victim of the iPhone own success the way AT&T did when the iPhone first came out. Sprint went from being 4th place in the networks to 1st almost overnight due to having unlimited data and high quality phones. Unfortunately they weren't prepared for it network wise.
I keep getting emails about them building/buying/renting new towers here in Los Angeles, but thus far I haven't seen any quality updates.
My recommendation is to call and complain. Most of the time they'll give you an Airrave for free to keep you as a customer.

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Sprint is becoming a victim of the iPhone own success the way AT&T did when the iPhone first came out. Sprint went from being 4th place in the networks to 1st almost overnight due to having unlimited data and high quality phones. Unfortunately they weren't prepared for it network wise.
I keep getting emails about them building/buying/renting new towers here in Los Angeles, but thus far I haven't seen any quality updates.
My recommendation is to call and complain. Most of the time they'll give you an Airrave for free to keep you as a customer.
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I think that sprint lineup is far from being the first.
A lot of people buy in the whole unlimited data thing, that's just how Americans are. Why have limits when you can have unlimited? Those people don't think about speeds, they think that all data is same lol. Sadly, they also usually don't even get close to 2gb, which is the lowest tier cap by competitors.
Yay, I have unlimited. What is it good for when everything takes ages to do? Videos aren't even worth the effort over sprint mobile data. Having a tmo ans a sprint phone side by side, I can buffer a YouTube in 720p on tmo and watch 2 minutes of video before sprint would load same video in sq.
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Sprint speeds have been terrible in Houston TX for some time now. my contract is up in September, if LTE doesn't fix things I will be leaving. Been a sprint customer for 13 years!
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Question about 4G

I live in Denver and this is my first 4G phone but I don't get 4G anywhere when my dad who has a Nexus gets it. Is it because this is an LTE phone? Do I have to wait for LTE towers? I can't use regular 4G in the mean time?

You have to wait for LTE. Denver will be a while. A year +.
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TrollMctrollington said:
I live in Denver and this is my first 4G phone but I don't get 4G anywhere when my dad who has a Nexus gets it. Is it because this is an LTE phone? Do I have to wait for LTE towers? I can't use regular 4G in the mean time?
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I believe the nexus is wimax 4g. Which is ok, but once lte gets some steam and all the switches get turned on it should blow wimax or if the water I'm terms of speed.
And once Sprint turns their old Nextel network to the “new“ Sprint network we should get better service and building penetration.
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I believe the nexus is wimax 4g. Which is ok, but once lte gets some steam and all the switches get turned on it should blow wimax or if the water I'm terms of speed.
And once Sprint turns their old Nextel network to the “new“ Sprint network we should get better service and building penetration.
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The Galaxy Nexus is an LTE device. If that phone is getting a 4G signal then your S3 should as well.

TrollMctrollington said:
I live in Denver and this is my first 4G phone but I don't get 4G anywhere when my dad who has a Nexus gets it. Is it because this is an LTE phone? Do I have to wait for LTE towers? I can't use regular 4G in the mean time?
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the galaxy nexus is 4g lte the nexus s is 4g WiMax. Which device does he have?
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They're the same carrier?
You have Sprint, your dad has sprint? ....Right?

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They're the same carrier?
You have Sprint, your dad has sprint? ....Right?
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Yeah. Both Sprint. His phone is maybe two years old now. The Nexus with the curvy screen. But that might not help because I can't remember if they all have that.

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Yeah. Both Sprint. His phone is maybe two years old now. The Nexus with the curvy screen. But that might not help because I can't remember if they all have that.
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That means he has the old Nexus S 4G, which uses Sprint's now-legacy Wimax standard and calls that 4G. Your GS3 does not handle Wimax, which will be phased out, but rather the new LTE 4G.
But Sprint's LTE network is very new, and has only been launched in a few cities so far. And according to the running schedule at S4GRU.com, Denver is not in line for LTE service for many months.

Mctrollington, im in denver/aurora and might get the sg3 but not sure how sprint service is without wimax as i have nan epic 4g? Are u getting decent speeds on 3g?
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nom303 said:
Mctrollington, im in denver/aurora and might get the sg3 but not sure how sprint service is without wimax as i have nan epic 4g? Are u getting decent speeds on 3g?
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I'm in the Denver area also, and just replaced a wimax Epic 4G with the SGS3. Personally I found wimax spotty at best. When it worked I got something like 2 or 3 mb downloads (not that great) but you had to be in just the right spot to get a decent wimax signal.
With the SGS3 using 3G I'm getting between 0.5 and 1.5 mb downloads (much better than I used to with the Epic), which is certainly tolerable unless you plan on downloading movies or doing heavy tethering. Again, it depends on the what cell site you are connected to and how many bars you have. Sprint's Network Vision upgrades are improving the data capacity of their 3G sites, and that is going on right now even before the LTE install.
I would say if 4G data speeds are important to you, try to hang on as long as you can before you upgrade. In my case my old Epic was getting pretty beat up and the SGS3 kept calling my name. I don't miss wimax one bit.
Oh, and the stock ICS experience with the SGS3 is WAY smoother and more polished than any ICS rom on the Epic ever was. Nothing like having gobs of ram and 16 megs of app storage built in to make things hum right along.

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I would say if 4G data speeds are important to you, try to hang on as long as you can before you upgrade. In my case my old Epic was getting pretty beat up and the SGS3 kept calling my name. I don't miss wimax one bit.
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That's good advice in general. I'm in Austin, and I happen to get decent Wimax coverage in my office. So I held on with my Epic for a bit before biting on the GS3 recently.
But LTE service is supposed to come here pretty soon, and it seemed like fun to search for service and test it even before launch. For an ordinary user with good Wimax service today and no early prospect of LTE, I would not recommend the GS3 today unless you also choose to jump carriers. (Which raises other issues of price, data caps, etc.)

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That's good advice in general. I'm in Austin, and I happen to get decent Wimax coverage in my office. So I held on with my Epic for a bit before biting on the GS3 recently.
But LTE service is supposed to come here pretty soon, and it seemed like fun to search for service and test it even before launch. For an ordinary user with good Wimax service today and no early prospect of LTE, I would not recommend the GS3 today unless you also choose to jump carriers. (Which raises other issues of price, data caps, etc.)
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After I switched off my Epic for the S3, my Epic still gets Wimax...
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After I switched off my Epic for the S3, my Epic still gets Wimax...
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Hmm. Without activation? I have to try that.

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That's basically what's up in the Denver Area. Downtown gets a little faster. I am not often in Aurora but I think it's similar.
When I'm in Littleton I get absolutely no Sprint Network. It's all roaming.
I typically use WiFi. My 3G use is for tweeting, RTD navigation and a little Facebook. I have no problems or complaints with those.

TrollMctrollington said:
That's basically what's up in the Denver Area. Downtown gets a little faster. I am not often in Aurora but I think it's similar.
When I'm in Littleton I get absolutely no Sprint Network. It's all roaming.
I typically use WiFi. My 3G use is for tweeting, RTD navigation and a little Facebook. I have no problems or complaints with those.
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Sad but that how it is... I never have issues wIth coverage in Littleton tho. 3pm is peak too. expect Is to be slow. I avg 500kbps to 1.6 max in the Denver area (mostly Aurora).
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a454nova said:
Sad but that how it is... I never have issues wIth coverage in Littleton tho. 3pm is peak too. expect Is to be slow. I avg 500kbps to 1.6 max in the Denver area (mostly Aurora).
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Do you have roaming set auto? Or Sprint only?

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Do you have roaming set auto? Or Sprint only?
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It's on auto but I never roam. You might have an issue going on. Where are you having issues at? You on CM10?
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After 20 years on ATT, first time switch to Sprint, very bad

So after almost 20 years on ATT, have never changed providers, multiple models and makes of phones on ATT and never had a signal issue, outages yes, due to storms but once service back, no complaints
Made the switch for the 1st time over to Sprint, Samsung Galaxy S3 16GB (for some reason the automated system recognizes phones as 32GB).
After 48 hours on Sprint, horrible horrible horrible voice quality issues (ATT has quad band coverage in area, both 3G and 4G) and despite phone being a 4G, can only see 3G icon lit, anywhere within 50 miles of home. I am paying a surcharge of 10.00 extra for 4G for multiple phones, have yet to see the service. Yes, Sprint promised it would work.
Purchased legitimate (yes I know I can root using qbking videos and Team Epic files) wifi hotspot to tether, keeps dropping connection every few minutes where ATT tether was flawless.
Sprint says "we are working on new towers, service will improve, you have 14 days to return phones are we will refund or replace..."
Sigh.

It isn't a $10 4g fee
Its a premium data fee A.K.A. unlimited 3g/4g/roaming where available
Use s4gru.com to see when you will get lte
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Yes, the $10 fee was originally for wimax 4G, but after people complained Sprint reworded it as "premium data". Now Even smart phones that only have 3G get this charge.
Add far as voice service, yes Sprint is in the middle of their network vision improvements so ymmv, I have great voice service.
Seems you didn't do enough research before you switched to Sprint and went off the sales pitch the person gave you. Sales people in general will say just about anything to make the sale and get the commission.
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The good news is your an educated consumer and you already know you have 14 days to return everything and cancel service and go back to ATT.

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The good news is your an educated consumer and you already know you have 14 days to return everything and cancel service and go back to ATT.
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that's what i would do also. in fact, if sprint's 4g lte service isn't competitive (when it's finally finished) i'm done with sprint and going to at&t.

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So after almost 20 years on ATT, have never changed providers, multiple models and makes of phones on ATT and never had a signal issue, outages yes, due to storms but once service back, no complaints
Made the switch for the 1st time over to Sprint, Samsung Galaxy S3 16GB (for some reason the automated system recognizes phones as 32GB).
After 48 hours on Sprint, horrible horrible horrible voice quality issues (ATT has quad band coverage in area, both 3G and 4G) and despite phone being a 4G, can only see 3G icon lit, anywhere within 50 miles of home. I am paying a surcharge of 10.00 extra for 4G for multiple phones, have yet to see the service. Yes, Sprint promised it would work.
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1. The GS3 is an LTE phone, not a 4G phone. So if they havent turned on LTE in your area, then yeah no duh you wont get it.
2. You are paying $10 a month for data, not specifically 4G. Yes its BS but deal with it, every company has the charge but in different words.
3. If its not working, complain that you get no service and return it for a refund. You have 14 days.
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Purchased legitimate (yes I know I can root using qbking videos and Team Epic files) wifi hotspot to tether, keeps dropping connection every few minutes where ATT tether was flawless.
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4. WHY!? Why would you pay? Rooting has 100 different benefits.
My question is, do you even know what you are doing? Did you read ANYTHING about the phone or how it works, did you research the service quality in your area before switching?

Where are you located? I can understand your frustration, it's hard for me to believe that you are saying that ATT voice is clearer than Sprints
I mean I guess if you're roaming and on another tower not owned by Sprint
I'm going to guess your location is your major problem, do you live in a rural area? Sprint works really well in Metro areas, not so much in the rural areas although they are broadening their coverage to these type of areas.
In my opinion, CDMA technology has sharper voice than GSM
Too bad you are experiencing this type of issue.

so you are at the age of 38-40 years old?

Kinda came at a wrong time
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Wow Sprint has bad voice? That's the first I ever heard of that.
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Its easy...return the equipment and cancel the contract
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pacifik.fuzion said:
in fact, if sprint's 4g lte service isn't competitive (when it's finally finished) i'm done with sprint and going to at&t.
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If it saves you a year of misery, Sprint's stated *GOAL* for network vision is a pathetic 6 mbps. Compare that *goal* to what people you know are getting with AT&T, Verizon, and even T-mobile *today*, and decide for yourself whether Sprint is even worth bothering with.
Frankly, I'm through with Sprint. If it weren't for the Galaxy Note 2 tantalizing me on or before 10/15, I'd have probably gone to the AT&T store today and bought a GS3 instead. In fact, if they announce a release date after that, I'll just get the S3, becase I hate my unflashable Photon with a passion, and can't replace it with a Sprint S3 because *then* I'd have no usable data service (wimax works ok here, but no LTE yet, and EVDO here has been 6 to ~80kbps down lately. I had faster 1xRTT 5 years ago).
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i been telling people to stay clear from sprint for months. I will admit it's bad if your coming from a carrier with usable internet pretty much everyone except Sprint, it will be hard adjusting. I used 8 gigs a month at T-Mobile and with sprint I'm lucky to crack 500 mb. I will be heading back to T-Mobile after dec lesson well learned if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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Location, Location, Location.........
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Location, Location, Location.........
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Exactly. It's just about stable enough in Dallas that I have ditched my AT&T Note and strictly carry my Sprint phone. Att and Verizon speeds are comparable. Voice quality in this market is unmatched. Sprint wins hands down. whoopdy doo...Tmobile now has unlimited...and is garbage here in big D.
The only one here in the market that may have a competitive edge is Metro with voice over LTE...though their unlImIted data, speeds are capped at 5mbps
I'm not even going to get into the whole grandfathered data on Att being throttled and the new share plans pricing structure being absurd.
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I seriously dont understand how people complain about sprint. Its probably 25-35% cheaper compared to every other contract carrier...and was one of the first contract carriers to offer unlimited data, not sure if it still is. I get many discounts off my bill simply because I have state farm insurance and other various memberships. I had verizon for YEARS, switched to sprint, could hardly tell the difference. 90% of the time its all in your head.

siirus09 said:
1. The GS3 is an LTE phone, not a 4G phone. So if they havent turned on LTE in your area, then yeah no duh you wont get it.
4. WHY!? Why would you pay? Rooting has 100 different benefits.
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LTE is 4g....
And because sometimes people are honest? If everyone just stole it, Sprint would be much more likely to figure out a way to block it. If you're going to actually use it regularly I think people should pay for it.

pacifik.fuzion said:
that's what i would do also. in fact, if sprint's 4g lte service isn't competitive (when it's finally finished) i'm done with sprint and going to at&t.
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Excelent move

bitbang3r said:
If it saves you a year of misery, Sprint's stated *GOAL* for network vision is a pathetic 6 mbps. Compare that *goal* to what people you know are getting with AT&T, Verizon, and even T-mobile *today*, and decide for yourself whether Sprint is even worth bothering with.
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I was under the impression that 6mbps was their goal for their average speeds. People with Sprint LTE right now are posting 30 mbps speeds. When I had Verizon I would get 5 mbps on LTE at home, where I had low signal, and 25 to 30 at work, where I had excellent signal. There's a huge difference when talking between peak and average speeds.

[Q] Note II - 4G LTE Connectivity in DFW (10%) or Bad/Defective Phone

So I'm wondering if other Note II owners in the DFW area can chime in.
In the 4 days I've owned the phone, I have only been able to get 4G LTE coverage once. The Speedtest logged 14513 kbps down and 3992 kbps up. I was not far from home - and within a quarter mile of a reported Sprint cell tower. I have noticed though, that I do not get a 4G LTE signal at all at my home in east Richardson, nor at my work place in north Plano. For the most part, I have only been able to connect to 3G - and have gotten download speeds ranging from 16 kbps to 369 kbps.
I contacted Sprint Customer Service and told them I had updated the PRL and Profile - and that it had not made a difference. They suggested that I take it to the Sprint store to have it checked out - and that they would likely have to replace my phone.
My question to you other Sprint users in Dallas-Fort Worth - how consistent is your 4G LTE connection? Does this sound like my phone is bad, or are you experiencing bad connectivity as well? I found this interesting article about Sprint claims for connectivity in the Dallas area - it basically stated that coverage was actually 10% - which matches my experience so far:
http://www.fiercebroadbandwireless.com/story/report-sprints-lte-coverage-far-less-advertised/2012-10-04#top_select
Any other anecdotes on Sprint 4G LTE connectivity on your Galaxy Note IIs?

I live in Valley Ranch and work near 635 and the North Tollway, so I'll be watching for replies to this too. I really want to jump on the Note 2, but not without consistent LTE.
I bought a used Sprint Nexus a few months ago, but resold it because of little to no 4G LTE. I get great 4G Wimax with my E4GT, so having the Nexus stuck on 3G was a bummer.

I don't have an lte device yet but I will soon. Although I live and work in north fort worth and can say that lte here it's not only good but fast. I have friends that have ltevo and notes and connection is good. The tests were pretty consistent 5-10d and around 16up.
Just for reference I live near 820 and 35w
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I'm in the hurst area and I get lte all over the place around my house. I'm 3 minutes from NE Mall.
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No issues here in North D
I work at sprint...I am glad to check addresses.
Its not comunicated well at cust care that though LTE is launched it isnt complete. I can't comment on actual completion due to non disclosure but I know and see it isn't complete.
If you want me to check specific coverage pm me addresses
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So I'm sure now that it isn't my device - unless the antenna is messed up and can't pick up weak signals. I'm fairly certain that Sprint's map of coverage is overestimating the actual LTE coverage area. Hopefully other people's experience here will verify that.
On the way back from work which is the NW corner of Plano near Frisco - I checked LTE coverage all the way across the middle of Plano from Preston - Springcreek Parkway across to 75 (middle of Plano). I found that the area near Preston and 121 (almost Frisco) is devoid of 4G LTE. As I neared the middle of Plano and on towards 75 - LTE sprang to life - I was getting readings of around 5-6000 kbps down. Going down 75 to George Bush the signal gets very strong around Renner and George Bush, then dies off about a mile in - and ironically is completely dead in my neighborhood.
Yesterday I was down by Parker and the Tollway - and there's no 4G LTE there either.
Apparently despite switching from 4G WI-MAX to 4G LTE - I am no better off then I was before - my work and home are in dead zones! I'm going to have strong words with Sprint - hopefully they'll give me some more credits.
Does anyone know of any third party sites that aggregate people's Speedtest readings and 4G LTE coverage - for a more accurate coverage map?

I live in Plano and get consistent 4G around most parts of the east side of town (Spring Creek/75, Park/Jupiter, and a few other places). At work, my EVO 3D would catch a weak WiMax signal, where my Note 2 gets a decent, very fast LTE signal that's much more consistent and usable than my WiMax connection was. I can't comment on coverage in Richardson, but I know the coverage in most parts of Plano is pretty decent.

I live in McKinney and work in Richardson. I have the original evo now and just ordered the note from wirefly. While I obviously can't speak of lte,I can say that my 3g and Wimax have recently gotten better, so hopefully I'll get lte as well. I'll report back in a few days when I get my note
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I live in Roanoke. Near the Speedway. I've had all the phones and by far, the Note 2 is the best one when it comes to LTE. Ive posted my results in several places too. Lots of info on S4GRU.com
But, the DFW area it sitting at about 22% complete. They are upgrading them all tho, soon. The site stated above has maps of the towers and what ones are done too. The best way to know is with an app called Sensorly. Its in the store. It will show you where real ppl have had 4G and you can compare your findings to see if its your phone. As for the phone compared to others. It connects, holds and finds the 4G lte better than any device that Sprints put out. Nexus and Evo LTE being the worst.
Heres an example... My dad works for American at Alliance Airport. He got the Note and has LTE in his shop now. The S3 would cut in and out. Note never drops. Laughs at all the Evo guys that can't. Now a lot of them have bought the note. Lol Its sad when other new smart phones tether to your internet. The shop is a steal box. EMP could go off, and they wouldn't know it.
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The map online is planned coverage. As I mentioned above, DFW is not complete bit is higher than 22% completed
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00mred00 said:
The map online is planned coverage. As I mentioned above, DFW is not complete
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Sprints Coverage map?
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a454nova said:
Sprints Coverage map?
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is planned coverage.
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00mred00 said:
is planned coverage.
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From what I have found so far is that the Map is correct. Its just that our phone will not hold it. If you force your phone into LTE. So it will hold on to the lower signals, it will show up just as their map. I think they use an antenna on a truck, giving it more credit than we can see. Maybe a PC card would do better. But I've been all over the west DFW area and the same story hold true. If your in a area that Sprint says is covered, and your not picking it up. You will if you force it Lte. In a sense, the map is right. S3 or Note.
I also live right on the line of Lte. Very outside edge. Sprint Says I'm covered.... only if I force it tho. Now with the note, I'll actually pick it up after sunset.

a454nova said:
From what I have found so far is that the Map is correct. Its just that our phone will not hold it. If you force your phone into LTE. So it will hold on to the lower signals, it will show up just as their map. I think they use an antenna on a truck, giving it more credit than we can see. Maybe a PC card would do better. But I've been all over the west DFW area and the same story hold true. If your in a area that Sprint says is covered, and your not picking it up. You will if you force it Lte. In a sense, the map is right. S3 or Note.
I also live right on the line of Lte. Very outside edge. Sprint Says I'm covered.... only if I force it tho. Now with the note, I'll actually pick it up after sunset.
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I can assure you...the map is planned coverage.
read back where I mention my employer
the map may accurately show your location...there may be live towers near you...but not all of dfw. this is fact...it is planned coverage.
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I live in Las Colinas/MacArthur area, this past Saturday 11/17 I was over my buddy's place on Luna RD/635 from 9:00-11:00 AM, looked at my phone and saw 4G icon and did a speed test to see what kinda of speed is around this area. I was surprise what I saw.
this one was around 09:00AM
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C63BS said:
I live in Las Colinas/MacArthur area, this past Saturday 11/17 I was over my buddy's place on Luna RD/635 from 9:00-11:00 AM, looked at my phone and saw 4G icon and did a speed test to see what kinda of speed is around this area. I was surprise what I saw.
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You're very close to where I live. What kind of speed test results do you get at your place?

JimSmith94 said:
You're very close to where I live. What kind of speed test results do you get at your place?
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I'll add to this post for those still interested. I live in North Arlington and have an AT&T Note 2. Getting 4G LTE pretty solid with 12.5mbps/2.5mbps u/d. My wife has a Sprint Note 2, and even though Sprint claims they have solid LTE in Arlington, she barely gets 4G if LTE. Even the 4G is very weak. Only had it a week and haven't really got to work with hers much. May be the phone. Have to do a little more testing.

fuel451 said:
I'll add to this post for those still interested. I live in North Arlington and have an AT&T Note 2. Getting 4G LTE pretty solid with 12.5mbps/2.5mbps u/d. My wife has a Sprint Note 2, and even though Sprint claims they have solid LTE in Arlington, she barely gets 4G if LTE. Even the 4G is very weak. Only had it a week and haven't really got to work with hers much. May be the phone. Have to do a little more testing.
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DFW is nowhere near completion. where it works it works great...
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Your agument is invalid. Lte is 4G (for the note 2) and right now it's not full deployed yet. If you read the site correctly, it says street coverage. They don't have all the towers upgraded yet. You can also use an app called Sensorly to find to true coverage.
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