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4G 1.5Mbps uplink, sign of Network Vision rollout starting?

Sprint used to cap WiMAX uplink to 1Mbps but I'm consistently getting up to 1.5Mbps using various test methods lately. On downlink, my old EVO would get a peak of 10Mbps on 4G. Lately on ET I tend to get 7-10Mbps downlink but it peaks up to 15Mbps, which I've never seen on EVO.
Sprint is announcing the Network Vision rollout this Friday but reports say they've already started rolling it out in some areas. I wonder if I already have it - live in midtown, work in downtown KC.

Sprint increased the speed a few months ago. I've been getting 1.5 up for some time now.
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10mb/s down? I've never gotten much above 5 and I'm in a big city with almost 100% 4g coverage. I'd kill to see 6-8mb/so downloads. 5 is the max for me.
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jirafabo said:
10mb/s down? I've never gotten much above 5 and I'm in a big city with almost 100% 4g coverage. I'd kill to see 6-8mb/so downloads. 5 is the max for me.
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Is this inside or outside speeds? Which city are you talking about? Just curious because I get spotty 4g but when I'm in the right part of the city 10 mb/s is easily achievable. I get 6-7 mb/s in my backyard with 2 bars of 4g. Too bad i have wifi access back there.

Ive seen 10mbps-15mbps on 4G, as high as 18 once. This was before the tower was 'officially on'. Since it went 'officially on' it pretty much stuck at 10-12mbps...Keep in mind this was in direct line of sight of the tower when I got that, speeds dropped as I got farther away obviously.
I sure hope this big announcement and plan have been well thought out and implemented cuz this iPhone thing (which not being IP5 and not being exclusive to Sprint at all make the billions commited to iPhone purchases seem like as bad of an idea as it was) is going to rape Sprint's spectrum like never before. Tower capacity and backhaul capacity is going to be put to the test.
Who knows how many subscribers they planned for, who knows how many they'll get...but I do know one thing for sure, if they underestimated it at all we're all fncked. I sure hope all of these random reports of sudden increases in speed are an indicator.

jirafabo said:
10mb/s down? I've never gotten much above 5 and I'm in a big city with almost 100% 4g coverage. I'd kill to see 6-8mb/so downloads. 5 is the max for me.
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In NYC I get about 6-8mbps when I'm inside and 8-11mbps when I'm outside
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graffixnyc said:
In NYC I get about 6-8mbps when I'm inside and 8-11mbps when I'm outside
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Wow, tell me which part of NYC it is and I will move there Probably downtown or midtown. Get 1.5-4 indoors UES, 0 connectivity indoors UWS

dohturdima said:
Wow, tell me which part of NYC it is and I will move there Probably downtown or midtown. Get 1.5-4 indoors UES, 0 connectivity indoors UWS
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Work and go to school in midtown. At home in queens I get the same speeds. Not all over queens but by my house. I think there is a tower close by
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now if only i got 4g where i live

bsims85 said:
Sprint increased the speed a few months ago. I've been getting 1.5 up for some time now.
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Yeah, This thread is old news. Sprint changed the Up Speed months ago LOL.

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Fortunately I get great 4g in this small town
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Mine just hit 15 in a spotty area inside just now.
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I have been getting 1.4mbps consistently from the day I got epic touch. I remember the limit was in place last year when epic 4g launched, but it must have been removed months ago.

I get from 9mbps to 12mbps indoors where I live on 4g. My 3g speeds are horrible as of recent though, like .3 to .5 mbps
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I want to say that the upload speed bumped up to 1.5 a couple of months ago but the 4G download speeds seem to be improved.
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cdszoke said:
Is this inside or outside speeds? Which city are you talking about? Just curious because I get spotty 4g but when I'm in the right part of the city 10 mb/s is easily achievable. I get 6-7 mb/s in my backyard with 2 bars of 4g. Too bad i have wifi access back there.
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I'm in Orlando. I travel all over the city (and surrounding cities) for work and I have never seen anything above 5mb/s. I use speedtest.net site, bc the app doesn't work on our touches. Am I doing something wrong?
As for inside or outside, I can barely hold a 4g signal inside my car, inside I don't even usually try. BTW this has been on the OG Epic and the Epic Touch. I usually don't even waste my time turning 4G on.

jirafabo said:
I'm in Orlando. I travel all over the city (and surrounding cities) for work and I have never seen anything above 5mb/s. I use speedtest.net site, bc the app doesn't work on our touches. Am I doing something wrong?
As for inside or outside, I can barely hold a 4g signal inside my car, inside I don't even usually try. BTW this has been on the OG Epic and the Epic Touch. I usually don't even waste my time turning 4G on.
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What do you mean it's not working on our phone?
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craigbailey1986 said:
What do you mean it's not working on our phone?
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Speedtest.net app always just says connection unavailable or something of that sort.
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jirafabo said:
I'm in Orlando. I travel all over the city (and surrounding cities) for work and I have never seen anything above 5mb/s. I use speedtest.net site, bc the app doesn't work on our touches. Am I doing something wrong?
As for inside or outside, I can barely hold a 4g signal inside my car, inside I don't even usually try. BTW this has been on the OG Epic and the Epic Touch. I usually don't even waste my time turning 4G on.
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I'm flying out to Orlando @ the end of month. I'll see if my Epic Touch experience the same issue.

Sprint is rolling out LTE Advanced in 2013!!

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Sprint just started building out*its LTE network, but being the eager beavers that they are, the folks in Overland Park are already talking about taking the Now Network to the next level. Iyad Tarazi, Sprint's VP of network development and engineering, said that Sprint will be rolling out an LTE-Advanced network in the first half of 2013. (As a brief refresher, LTE-Advanced is a*true 4G technology*that can make regular LTE speeds lookpositively pedestrian*in comparison.) Tarazi added that we would see 12 LTE devices in 2012 and that over 250 million people will have access to Sprint-flavored LTE by the end of 2013 -- with*voice over LTE*service coming in the first quarter of that year. For those (hundreds?) of you worried about the fate of of WiMAX, well, don't. Apparently, the out-of-favor 4G network will continue to be supported for several more years due to Sprint's agreement with Clearwire. So, it appears Sprint's really making a run atVerizon's*LTE hegemony. Good luck Mr. Hesse, you're probably going to need it.
Source: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...nferiority-compl/&category=classic&postPage=1
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well to me that just means we got the galaxy just in time. hopefully we'll get lte about the time we get our phone upgrades renewed may just be about perfect timing.

I'd rather hear about they are going to put up more towers, increase 3g speed than these news

Tell Me about it I have crap speeds
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justwonder said:
I'd rather hear about they are going to put up more towers, increase 3g speed than these news
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They aren't going to put up new towers.
Sprint actually has the most towers of all the major carriers.
Network Vision is actually going to allow for less towers while giving more coverage and better speeds.
More towers does not necessarily mean more coverage.
Just higher costs to run the network / maintenance.

mattykinsx said:
They aren't going to put up new towers.
Sprint actually has the most towers of all the major carriers.
Network Vision is actually going to allow for less towers while giving more coverage and better speeds.
More towers does not necessarily mean more coverage.
Just higher costs to run the network / maintenance.
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This. Can't wait for LTE on Sprint.
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justwonder said:
I'd rather hear about they are going to put up more towers, increase 3g speed than these news
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Exactly. Sprint doesn't support Wimax in my area now - I can rarely connect and when I do I get crappy speeds. So their continued support of them doesn't exactly inspire me. As long as they are rolling out LTE why not roll out EVDO rev B at the same time at virtually no additional cost? And for goodness sakes, increase your backbone that the towers connect to and fix your proxy servers!

mattykinsx said:
They aren't going to put up new towers.
Sprint actually has the most towers of all the major carriers.
Network Vision is actually going to allow for less towers while giving more coverage and better speeds.
More towers does not necessarily mean more coverage.
Just higher costs to run the network / maintenance.
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Im confused y do people keep saying they want sprint to focus on 3g speeds and coverage from my understanding of network vision isnt that what they are doing in addition to switching to lte? I dunno maybe i missed read

mattykinsx said:
Sprint actually has the most towers of all the major carriers.
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On two separate networks, CDMA and iDEN?

asqwrd said:
Im confused y do people keep saying they want sprint to focus on 3g speeds and coverage from my understanding of network vision isnt that what they are doing in addition to switching to lte? I dunno maybe i missed read
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I don't know about others but I'm saying their network speeds where I need them - Arizon, CA, NY, FL and CT are wretched for 3G and 4G rarely even works well/frequently disconnects and isn't very fast where I've managed to maintain a connection. So to put it succinctly - Sprint data speeds suck both on 3G and 4G everyplace I need them.

boe said:
I don't know about others but I'm saying their network speeds where I need them - Arizon, CA, NY, FL and CT are wretched for 3G and 4G rarely even works well/frequently disconnects and isn't very fast where I've managed to maintain a connection. So to put it succinctly - Sprint data speeds suck both on 3G and 4G everyplace I need them.
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I live in the Bay area and although slow the speeds have been enough for me to surf and check stuff. I just recently finished school in NY and just moved out here a few months ago and my speeds in new york seemed fine as well as in CT. I had the EVO then and all summer until the epic came out. 4g has sucked as far as coverage everywhere i went but when i do get a connection the speeds were about 4-6mbps. To be honest i didnt notice that my 3g speeds were really slow until i started seeing people complain in threads lol i guess ignorance is bliss.

boe said:
Exactly. Sprint doesn't support Wimax in my area now - I can rarely connect and when I do I get crappy speeds. So their continued support of them doesn't exactly inspire me. As long as they are rolling out LTE why not roll out EVDO rev B at the same time at virtually no additional cost? And for goodness sakes, increase your backbone that the towers connect to and fix your proxy servers!
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Because they're quickly moving to LTE Advanced.
When they do that they will actually be a "true 4g" network with voip etc.
Everything will be data.
As far as your backbone comment, that's exactly what Network Vision is doing.
asqwrd said:
Im confused y do people keep saying they want sprint to focus on 3g speeds and coverage from my understanding of network vision isnt that what they are doing in addition to switching to lte? I dunno maybe i missed read
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That's exactly what Sprint is doing unfortunately people really haven't read into it.

"Within the range of system development, LTE-Advanced and WiMAX 2, can use up to 8x8 MIMO and 128 QAM. Example performance: 100MHz aggregated bandwidth, LTE-Advanced provides almost 3.3Gbit peak download rates per sector of the base station under ideal conditions. Advanced network architectures combined with distributed and collaborative smart antenna technologies provide several years road map of commercial enhancements."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_Advanced
Could you imagine 3.3Gbps? LOL

Overstew said:
Could you imagine 3.3Gbps? LOL
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I would be thrilled if Sprint even delivered 3mbps where I need it, frankly .3mbps is very discouraging.

Overstew said:
Could you imagine 3.3Gbps? LOL
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With the current limitations on data (except on Sprint) you could literally use your entire months 2GB allotment in 4.8 seconds.

Well..about 2 years to go..lol

i hope that i still like my phone for two years

http://m.intomobile.com/2011/10/27/...com/&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
This article says that sprints lye advanced will be around 15 mbps.
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musclehead84 said:
http://m.intomobile.com/2011/10/27/...com/&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
This article says that sprints lye advanced will be around 15 mbps.
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Welcome to Sprint.
Cast aside your ideas on 3G and 4G speeds. We (at Sprint) don't throttle your speeds once you exceed 2GB or 5GB - we throttle from your very first kilobyte. Your speeds will be so slow you won't ever exceeed 2GB or 5GB. This is how we can offer unlimited data. But rest assured if our speeds improve for any unforseen reason, we'll include a $25 fee for your "outstanding" data experience on top of the $10 fee you pay for the "rich" data experience.
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Ajamucamphor said:
i hope that i still like my phone for two years
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I hope I make enough money to be on a better carrier in 2 years.

musclehead84 said:
http://m.intomobile.com/2011/10/27/...com/&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
This article says that sprints lye advanced will be around 15 mbps.
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I have a hard time buying that LTE-Advanced would only achieve 12-15 mbps real world. LTE on Verizon currently gets that and that isn't even LTE-Advanced....
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http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/242661/sprint_aims_to_use_clearwires_lte_network.html
The more the merrier I always say.

[Q] Sprint 3G always really slow?

I'm coming from HSPA+ speeds on T-Mobile, so I was wondering if EVDO speeds on Sprint are supposed to be this slow? EVDO should be capable of at least 1 Mbps.
I'm consistently getting less than 300 kbps download, so are Sprint's EVDO speeds really closer to EDGE than 3G?
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etirkca said:
I'm coming from HSPA+ speeds on T-Mobile, so I was wondering if EVDO speeds on Sprint are supposed to be this slow? EVDO should be capable of at least 1 Mbps.
I'm consistently getting <300 kbps download, so are Sprint's EVDO speeds really closer to EDGE than 3G?
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I would say it depends on the time + place your using 3G at. I sometimes get as low as your saying but sometimes can get over 1MB but only at certain times and certain places.
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They are usually pretty good. Id suggest trying the 3g turbocharger. Its never disappointed me. I usually can only get around .60mbps.
This is with it :
This is with out it :
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Honestly, sprint is just awful in some areas. I'm okay with it because I pay a lot less and usually have wifi anyway, but yea, the service is just pathetic.
In LA, I regularly get 5-50 kb/s download and upload with 3g. If I'm lucky, I'll get around 300--this happens maybe 1/10 days. This is in a flat, well populated area of Los Angeles, not a boonie by any means. It's really disappointing.
4g, when it (rarely) works, is also way slower than I had hoped for... maybe 1.8 down, 200 up.
Funny thing about unlimited data is that with crap speeds like this, I could probably download all month long and not reach the limit of other providers...

I am occasionally able to hit 1000 kbps up and down but at my house it's normally about 300 kbps each. I had 4G today and it was a pitiful 500 kbps down and 50 kbps up with a ping of 500. Be glad you have data at all...
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Xinlitik said:
Honestly, sprint is just awful in some areas. I'm okay with it because I pay a lot less and usually have wifi anyway, but yea, the service is just pathetic.
In LA, I regularly get 5-50 kb/s download and upload with 3g. If I'm lucky, I'll get around 300--this happens maybe 1/10 days. This is in a flat, well populated area of Los Angeles, not a boonie by any means. It's really disappointing.
4g, when it (rarely) works, is also way slower than I had hoped for... maybe 1.8 down, 200 up.
Funny thing about unlimited data is that with crap speeds like this, I could probably download all month long and not reach the limit of other providers...
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You would think that in LA we'd get better service?! I usually get 0.5 mbs up and down on 3g and 4-5mbs down and 1-2 mbs up in my area though...

Sprint putting up lte... that's been the cause of all the crappy data... I'm almost certain somebody had a picture of them putting stuff up in los Angeles and their 3g was down and 4g was pitiful.
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IronReaver17 said:
You would think that in LA we'd get better service?! I usually get 0.5 mbs up and down on 3g and 4-5mbs down and 1-2 mbs up in my area though...
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No kidding. The population density here seems like it would be a good cost-value job to throw in more towers...

Network vision is underway in LA, which will affect certain areas and connectivity
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It's official. Sprint has the worst 3G and 4G speeds among major carriers. :thumbdown: I'm not surprised at all.
http://m.gizmodo.com/5902947/which-carriers-have-the-fastest-3g-and-4g-connections/gallery/
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Not compared to ****ty ATT Hspa! Absolute crap in Daytona area. Barely get Sprint 3G speeds out of it. ATT has barely started their LTE rollout.
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etirkca said:
I'm coming from HSPA+ speeds on T-Mobile, so I was wondering if EVDO speeds on Sprint are supposed to be this slow? EVDO should be capable of at least 1 Mbps.
I'm consistently getting <300 kbps download, so are Sprint's EVDO speeds really closer to EDGE than 3G?
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It's true. Sprint really is just that awful. Sprint's "3G" is slower than AT&T's 2G. I'm still happier than I was with AT&T, though, since I always have some kind of data signal on Sprint. I might be roaming, and I might get only 5kbps down, but at least I have something. On AT&T I would frequently have ZERO signal and my phone was a worthless oversized paperweight.
Sitting in my own living room, where I have 5 full bars of Sprint 3G signal, I have similar speed to what you posted. Yours might be a bit faster, actually. This is completely normal average speed -- I am fairly certain that Sprint is NOT doing these "network vision" upgrades in east Texas anytime soon, if ever. Contrast that with Verizon -- my buddy was sitting right next to me with maxed out LTE signal, pulling 30mbps on the same speed test. That's faster than my Roadrunner Elite. He then dropped to Verizon 3G and got about 5mbps down. On both tests, his ping was <100ms and mine was >500ms.
I firmly believe that the only reason Sprint still offers "unlimited" data is that there is no need for a cap -- you are limited directly by the speed of your connection and you cannot reasonably even come close to 5GB of data usage in a month. Unless you have consistent Wimax signal, which I estimate maybe 1% of their subscribers have.

etirkca said:
It's official. Sprint has the worst 3G and 4G speeds among major carriers. :thumbdown: I'm not surprised at all.
http://m.gizmodo.com/5902947/which-carriers-have-the-fastest-3g-and-4g-connections/gallery/
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tmobile seems to want to have it both ways. they call their hspa+ 4g, but then throw it in to comparisons against other carriers 3g.
le boo.
from the article... T-Mobile's HSPA+ 21 service won in the 3G bracket of our study, and the company's high-end HSPA+ 42 service competed reasonably well with other providers' 4G service.

3g speeds are poor in some areas but recently have seen a slight improvement in my area. I'm hoping the network vision upgrades will help like they say it will.
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Obviously there is no credibility to that article. There are several places around Daytona that I get over 1Mbs on 3G. I can just as easily measure ATT's 4G in my area to show it slower than Sprint's 3G. Most of the time I have to toggle airplane mode on the stupid ATT phone from work just to get it to load my work screen.

Different areas have different speeds... I get 1.5-2 mbps on 3g.... of course about 2 months ago I was only getting .30 mbps on 3g... 4g is super fast though. Lol
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I had been using the EL30 modem for quite some time and 3G speeds were horrid around the Chicago suburbs. Like bad bad. If I wasn't on 4G, I didn't even want to use my phone for anything data related.
I know NV is being deployed around this area right now, but I recently switched to the FC09 modem, and it's a night and day difference. I used to get around 0.1Mbps if I was luckly. Lately, since the switch, I've been getting more closer to 0.8-1.0Mbps which I'm quite happy with considering it's 3G.
4G I usually pull around 5-7Mbps down (but have hit 10 a few times; that's a full 1MBps down) and I usually cap it at the 1.5MBps up. That's faster than my wifi at home through AT&T UVerse.

Average Sprint 3G data speeds decreased from 2011 to 2012. Maybe because of the influx of iPhone customers?
Welcome to Sprint. Where the 3G is 2G, and the 4G is 3G.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2538...peed_showdown_which_networks_are_fastest.html

So my question to you is; why'd you leave T-mobile? If they were so great for you, you should have stayed with Big Magenta.
I'm not being flippant here. Carriers are like organized religion. What works for one person offends someone else. In the end, all of us get through to The Supreme Being.
I, personally, always find myself on Wi-Fi so I don't give a crap.
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orlzzt said:
So my question to you is; why'd you leave T-mobile? If they were so great for you, you should have stayed with Big Magenta.
I'm not being flippant here. Carriers are like organized religion. What works for one person offends someone else. In the end, all of us get through to The Supreme Being.
I, personally, always find myself on Wi-Fi so I don't give a crap.
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You're right. I should have stayed.
With my corporate discount, my equivalent plan on Sprint is cheaper, so I switched. It's too bad that article showing crappy Sprint data speeds didn't come out earlier, I probably would have stuck with T.
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Wimax McLovin

I live in Orange Country, California. There's Wimax blanketing the whole county. I love it.
Unfortunately, no LTE yet. ETA mid-next-year.
I, recently, upgraded to the S3. I tried it out for more than a week. I love the phone with all its bells and whistles. However, because there's no LTE in my area, I was connecting to the 3G. And, it's horridly SLOW.
So, I decided to switch back to my S2 Epic Touch and take advantage of the Wimax speed until LTE comes to my area.
Am I crazy? I'm wondering if anybody else have had the same experience.

You're not crazy at all. I'm currently in Orange County too, specifically Orange/Garden Grove. I love the 4G at my work office. My 4G pulls 8mbps down, inside the building. But LTE rollouts in OC shouldn't take much longer, I'll be ready to buy a Galaxy Nexus or S3 when it does.

knite75 said:
I live in Orange Country, California. There's Wimax blanketing the whole county. I love it.
Unfortunately, no LTE yet. ETA mid-next-year.
I, recently, upgraded to the S3. I tried it out for more than a week. I love the phone with all its bells and whistles. However, because there's no LTE in my area, I was connecting to the 3G. And, it's horridly SLOW.
So, I decided to switch back to my S2 Epic Touch and take advantage of the Wimax speed until LTE comes to my area.
Am I crazy? I'm wondering if anybody else have had the same experience.
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Nope not crazy at all.. I was actually thinking about getting the note 2 but it's no lte here in DC yet; great 4G tho.. And I use my 4G a lot to tether and watch videos.. So I been thinking about that before I go get it next week
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Yeah, me no loco!
I really like the current generation of phones. For instance, the EVO 4G LTE has one of the best camera. The aperture is F2.0. Wow! It's awesome for me, because I frequently take pictures of my little daughter. But, that too, I quickly returned, because I couldn't stand the horrid 3G speed.

Yupz, I'm also in Orange County enjoying great 4G WiMax speeds. Not gonna upgrade to an LTE phone until LTE actually gets here.

I Live in craptastic Oklahoma with no 4G I however visited Orange County a while back and was shocked at how amazing the 4G was. At most places it proved faster than the wifi I could use. Can't say the same for a recent trip to St Louis.

Funny such big cities have to wait on LTE, mine will be live by Xmas time and I'm in the sticks. But mines included in like a 1/4 state upgrade covering about 4 major cities and 20 smaller cities. I'm just trying to decide what to blow my upgrade on
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LOL so true. When I'm at Starbucks, I don't connect to their hotspots anymore. Much slower than my Wimax
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I Live in craptastic Oklahoma with no 4G I however visited Orange County a while back and was shocked at how amazing the 4G was. At most places it proved faster than the wifi I could use. Can't say the same for a recent trip to St Louis.
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If you live in a Wimax area with no lte, there is no reason to upgrade. Its the reason sprint is still supporting this phone I think.
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Frankly, if Wimax and LTE is not available in your area and their 3G is your only avenue, i wouldn't recommend Sprint at all. "Unlimited" data is irrelevant if you're speeding along at a horrid rate. Smartphones need a decent network connection to function at all.
Don't get me wrong, I love Sprint. Their customer service is great. You can get a live person (from USA) customer service within 30 second when calling in. And, their online customer service chat is fantastic too.
**BOFA** said:
Welllll, must be nice. I have no 4g wimax nor lte here with an eta of 2015. No matter which phone i get, unless i switch carriers, is gonna suck nuts! Thanks for making me feel terrible.....lol.
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Sprint has definitely come a long way, ESP in customer service considering 5 years ago they were possibly the worst. No wimax or lte in my area, but I visit friends who have wimax and love it. I will be holding out until the s4 most likely
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Hate you all in the OC lol. In SGV wimax is spotty as hell. You would think it would be better being a valley that has 2 million people lol..
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If you live in a Wimax area with no lte, there is no reason to upgrade. Its the reason sprint is still supporting this phone I think.
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It's still a great phone. They might just keep selling it until NV is fully rolled out.
Samsung will keep supporting this phone with software updates until it reaches it's end of life age of 18 months. I would hope they keep software updates coming until the 24 month mark.
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I can probably see us getting key lime prime or whatever android upgrade is coming out next. There's literally no reason we can't update if it's not a major update... If it is a major update then we'll probably get a value pack update like the OG SGS if they decide to not give us the full update.
Anyways... I've been saying this since forever but really.
If you're in a non-lte area with wimax and LTE deployment is not coming within 6 months then stick with your current wimax phones.
If you're in a wimax area or non wimax area with LTE coming within 6 months then update when you start seeing NV upgrades or increased 3g speeds (3g speeds will increase before LTE goes live) as LTE should come relatively soon as 3g speeds indicate fiber or microwave backhaul.
If you're on the fringe of Sprint service and get ****e coverage/service then switch to another carrier and come back in a year or two where sprint deploys LTE 800mhz and fills up all those holes.

Where are you guys getting your LTE timeframe estimates?

darklavalizard said:
Where are you guys getting your LTE timeframe estimates?
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Being a sponsor at www.s4gru.com gives you privy to a lot of information including estimated launch dates, current progress of upgrades, location of said upgrades, and knowledge on what network vision actually is.
All markets are being shuffled thanks to the SoftBank investment in sprint. There is really no more set dates nor time frames anymore. In fact, Samsung, Alcatel-Lucent, Ericsson, and all the other vendors and subcontractors are moving all over areas regardless of market boundaries. Most work is being done in out NE, East, South, Gulf, texas & surrounding areas along with steady progress in Los Angeles (and surrounding counties) and the San Francisco Bay area.

knite75 said:
I live in Orange Country, California. There's Wimax blanketing the whole county. I love it.
Unfortunately, no LTE yet. ETA mid-next-year.
I, recently, upgraded to the S3. I tried it out for more than a week. I love the phone with all its bells and whistles. However, because there's no LTE in my area, I was connecting to the 3G. And, it's horridly SLOW.
So, I decided to switch back to my S2 Epic Touch and take advantage of the Wimax speed until LTE comes to my area.
Am I crazy? I'm wondering if anybody else have had the same experience.
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I'm in the same boat . Love the s3 but no lte(yorba linda) got me back to my s2 and used 26GB of 4g in my bill cycle
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[Q] Note II - 4G LTE Connectivity in DFW (10%) or Bad/Defective Phone

So I'm wondering if other Note II owners in the DFW area can chime in.
In the 4 days I've owned the phone, I have only been able to get 4G LTE coverage once. The Speedtest logged 14513 kbps down and 3992 kbps up. I was not far from home - and within a quarter mile of a reported Sprint cell tower. I have noticed though, that I do not get a 4G LTE signal at all at my home in east Richardson, nor at my work place in north Plano. For the most part, I have only been able to connect to 3G - and have gotten download speeds ranging from 16 kbps to 369 kbps.
I contacted Sprint Customer Service and told them I had updated the PRL and Profile - and that it had not made a difference. They suggested that I take it to the Sprint store to have it checked out - and that they would likely have to replace my phone.
My question to you other Sprint users in Dallas-Fort Worth - how consistent is your 4G LTE connection? Does this sound like my phone is bad, or are you experiencing bad connectivity as well? I found this interesting article about Sprint claims for connectivity in the Dallas area - it basically stated that coverage was actually 10% - which matches my experience so far:
http://www.fiercebroadbandwireless.com/story/report-sprints-lte-coverage-far-less-advertised/2012-10-04#top_select
Any other anecdotes on Sprint 4G LTE connectivity on your Galaxy Note IIs?

I live in Valley Ranch and work near 635 and the North Tollway, so I'll be watching for replies to this too. I really want to jump on the Note 2, but not without consistent LTE.
I bought a used Sprint Nexus a few months ago, but resold it because of little to no 4G LTE. I get great 4G Wimax with my E4GT, so having the Nexus stuck on 3G was a bummer.

I don't have an lte device yet but I will soon. Although I live and work in north fort worth and can say that lte here it's not only good but fast. I have friends that have ltevo and notes and connection is good. The tests were pretty consistent 5-10d and around 16up.
Just for reference I live near 820 and 35w
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I'm in the hurst area and I get lte all over the place around my house. I'm 3 minutes from NE Mall.
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No issues here in North D
I work at sprint...I am glad to check addresses.
Its not comunicated well at cust care that though LTE is launched it isnt complete. I can't comment on actual completion due to non disclosure but I know and see it isn't complete.
If you want me to check specific coverage pm me addresses
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So I'm sure now that it isn't my device - unless the antenna is messed up and can't pick up weak signals. I'm fairly certain that Sprint's map of coverage is overestimating the actual LTE coverage area. Hopefully other people's experience here will verify that.
On the way back from work which is the NW corner of Plano near Frisco - I checked LTE coverage all the way across the middle of Plano from Preston - Springcreek Parkway across to 75 (middle of Plano). I found that the area near Preston and 121 (almost Frisco) is devoid of 4G LTE. As I neared the middle of Plano and on towards 75 - LTE sprang to life - I was getting readings of around 5-6000 kbps down. Going down 75 to George Bush the signal gets very strong around Renner and George Bush, then dies off about a mile in - and ironically is completely dead in my neighborhood.
Yesterday I was down by Parker and the Tollway - and there's no 4G LTE there either.
Apparently despite switching from 4G WI-MAX to 4G LTE - I am no better off then I was before - my work and home are in dead zones! I'm going to have strong words with Sprint - hopefully they'll give me some more credits.
Does anyone know of any third party sites that aggregate people's Speedtest readings and 4G LTE coverage - for a more accurate coverage map?

I live in Plano and get consistent 4G around most parts of the east side of town (Spring Creek/75, Park/Jupiter, and a few other places). At work, my EVO 3D would catch a weak WiMax signal, where my Note 2 gets a decent, very fast LTE signal that's much more consistent and usable than my WiMax connection was. I can't comment on coverage in Richardson, but I know the coverage in most parts of Plano is pretty decent.

I live in McKinney and work in Richardson. I have the original evo now and just ordered the note from wirefly. While I obviously can't speak of lte,I can say that my 3g and Wimax have recently gotten better, so hopefully I'll get lte as well. I'll report back in a few days when I get my note
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I live in Roanoke. Near the Speedway. I've had all the phones and by far, the Note 2 is the best one when it comes to LTE. Ive posted my results in several places too. Lots of info on S4GRU.com
But, the DFW area it sitting at about 22% complete. They are upgrading them all tho, soon. The site stated above has maps of the towers and what ones are done too. The best way to know is with an app called Sensorly. Its in the store. It will show you where real ppl have had 4G and you can compare your findings to see if its your phone. As for the phone compared to others. It connects, holds and finds the 4G lte better than any device that Sprints put out. Nexus and Evo LTE being the worst.
Heres an example... My dad works for American at Alliance Airport. He got the Note and has LTE in his shop now. The S3 would cut in and out. Note never drops. Laughs at all the Evo guys that can't. Now a lot of them have bought the note. Lol Its sad when other new smart phones tether to your internet. The shop is a steal box. EMP could go off, and they wouldn't know it.
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The map online is planned coverage. As I mentioned above, DFW is not complete bit is higher than 22% completed
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00mred00 said:
The map online is planned coverage. As I mentioned above, DFW is not complete
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Sprints Coverage map?
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Sprints Coverage map?
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is planned coverage.
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is planned coverage.
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From what I have found so far is that the Map is correct. Its just that our phone will not hold it. If you force your phone into LTE. So it will hold on to the lower signals, it will show up just as their map. I think they use an antenna on a truck, giving it more credit than we can see. Maybe a PC card would do better. But I've been all over the west DFW area and the same story hold true. If your in a area that Sprint says is covered, and your not picking it up. You will if you force it Lte. In a sense, the map is right. S3 or Note.
I also live right on the line of Lte. Very outside edge. Sprint Says I'm covered.... only if I force it tho. Now with the note, I'll actually pick it up after sunset.

a454nova said:
From what I have found so far is that the Map is correct. Its just that our phone will not hold it. If you force your phone into LTE. So it will hold on to the lower signals, it will show up just as their map. I think they use an antenna on a truck, giving it more credit than we can see. Maybe a PC card would do better. But I've been all over the west DFW area and the same story hold true. If your in a area that Sprint says is covered, and your not picking it up. You will if you force it Lte. In a sense, the map is right. S3 or Note.
I also live right on the line of Lte. Very outside edge. Sprint Says I'm covered.... only if I force it tho. Now with the note, I'll actually pick it up after sunset.
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I can assure you...the map is planned coverage.
read back where I mention my employer
the map may accurately show your location...there may be live towers near you...but not all of dfw. this is fact...it is planned coverage.
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I live in Las Colinas/MacArthur area, this past Saturday 11/17 I was over my buddy's place on Luna RD/635 from 9:00-11:00 AM, looked at my phone and saw 4G icon and did a speed test to see what kinda of speed is around this area. I was surprise what I saw.
this one was around 09:00AM
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As I was leaving buddy's place I did another test

C63BS said:
I live in Las Colinas/MacArthur area, this past Saturday 11/17 I was over my buddy's place on Luna RD/635 from 9:00-11:00 AM, looked at my phone and saw 4G icon and did a speed test to see what kinda of speed is around this area. I was surprise what I saw.
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You're very close to where I live. What kind of speed test results do you get at your place?

JimSmith94 said:
You're very close to where I live. What kind of speed test results do you get at your place?
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I'll add to this post for those still interested. I live in North Arlington and have an AT&T Note 2. Getting 4G LTE pretty solid with 12.5mbps/2.5mbps u/d. My wife has a Sprint Note 2, and even though Sprint claims they have solid LTE in Arlington, she barely gets 4G if LTE. Even the 4G is very weak. Only had it a week and haven't really got to work with hers much. May be the phone. Have to do a little more testing.

fuel451 said:
I'll add to this post for those still interested. I live in North Arlington and have an AT&T Note 2. Getting 4G LTE pretty solid with 12.5mbps/2.5mbps u/d. My wife has a Sprint Note 2, and even though Sprint claims they have solid LTE in Arlington, she barely gets 4G if LTE. Even the 4G is very weak. Only had it a week and haven't really got to work with hers much. May be the phone. Have to do a little more testing.
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DFW is nowhere near completion. where it works it works great...
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Your agument is invalid. Lte is 4G (for the note 2) and right now it's not full deployed yet. If you read the site correctly, it says street coverage. They don't have all the towers upgraded yet. You can also use an app called Sensorly to find to true coverage.
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