I'm on ATT with an SGSII right now and get ****ty data performance. Voice isn't that much better. I get like 1 - 2 Mbit download speeds, and the phone is capable of something like 18Mbit. I'm thinking about making the move to Sprint. Anything I should know? Anyone using an Epic 4G Touch in the SF Bay Area?
As far as data goes, you'll most likely not get those speeds on Sprint (as far as 1-2 Mbit) but just like anything YMMV (a lot here complain about their data speeds and they don't even get close to those speeds).
But to my knowledge, the AT&T version gets way more support in development due to it being GSM like the international SGS2, so ports are easier and what not. So if you like rooting you'll probably miss that.
If data speeds are your primary reason, then do not switch. There's a very good chance that your speeds would be even worse with Sprint. They're working on it, but their data network sucks right now.
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If data speeds are your primary reason, then do not switch. There's a very good chance that your speeds would be even worse with Sprint. They're working on it, but their data network sucks right now.
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relative to where you are, i great great 3g and 4g speeds.
just like any other cell phone provider.
To the OP. I would say go buy one and test it out first in the places you go daily. I have no issues at all where I am with call quality or data speeds. Also the simply everything plan cant be beat.
However, as stated, the ATT version gets, MUCH more dev support because its GSM, and it will likely get updates first.
BUT, it is great to have the extra .2 of in inch on the screen and also to have an LED for notifications
On sprint, you will get 1-2 Mbit MAX download speeds. In almost every case, less than that.
If you have wimax in your area, then you could get anywhere from 5-15 Mbit (it varies greatly, and depends on signal strength). Most of the time when you're indoors you won't get great 4g signal strength.
If you consistently use more than 2gb of data per month, then sprint is a decent option, or verizon if they are still doing double data deals.
Last I heard sprint recently improved in SF bay area, so you may have good results.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sp...coverage-in-san-francisco-bay-area-2011-12-08
Sprint is also cheaper than AT&T, and many employers offer discounts for sprint.
If speed is your concern in good 4g areas all my tmobile friends get 15mb /2mb on thier sgs2
I have the sprint one i usually get 300kb-800kb/500kb in the day time
at night(2am-6am) 1000-13000/ 800-1000kb
I'm about to switch because of the throttling that att is about to start doing. Grandfathered into unlimited, but they don't like us using more than 5gb.
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If speed is something you desire, two words:
Don't
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As a 13 year Sprint customer, I have to say that I've never been more disappointed with their service. My 3G speeds have been terrible, and inconsistent on top of it (from bad to worse). I cannot in good conscience recommend that anyone switch to Sprint at the moment.
Hopefully they'll fix whatever's been broken for the last 60 days or so (and it could just be the iPhone effect), and I'll be able to once again recommend Sprint. At the moment, not so much...
I miss att i got the epic 4g touch and wish i was still on att. I would trade you if you switch i had good att speeds in union city ca 94587.
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I would not switch for data speeds. This is what I get right next to a tower at work. Granted I get maybe 250kbs at home, but I never get more than 40kbs while at work, sometimes like 10-15kbs. And its a heavily populated area. they are doing upgrades, or so they say.
Here's an overview of my last speed runs, not impressive...
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Yeah, for your own sake, do not switch just for the data speeds, not worth it, anything else Sprint is good.
Depends on where you are. I'm in Charlotte NC and Sprints data sucks ass. In the Northeast from Baltimore to New York is crazy fast especially in D.C. I been up there and sad to come back to slow molasses ass data. Thank god for wifi. Try the Epic Touch for two weeks and then decide.
4g from my house.
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I advise going to the Sprint store where you live and testing data speeds on the floor phones.
Then, if it's satisfactory, you always have 14 days if things change depending on other areas to travel frequently.
It really isn't helpful to you if someone that's on the other side of the country is telling you about their data speeds.
All carriers, even Verizon, vary based upon area.
As far as with the Epic Touch, make sure it's up to date so you don't have any LOS issue and you'll love the phone.
You really have to get one and try from home,work,etc and remember you only have 14 days to return. Here are some average marks for me...middle of the pack tests. 4g on different server about 150 miles away. That's why I have high ping...
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Lmao. Visit the sprint section before you think of it. May as well go to Verizon because you won't be happy with sprint data speeds at all. Ps winmax kills your battery something fierce
Around here Sprint has been sucking, but, I've tried Verizon recently...Sprint is actually extremely competitive with Verizon (3g) data speeds around here these days. I thought Sprint sucked around here, it ends up the grass is, in fact ,always green on the other side....in fact, it is actually as green and often greener on the Sprint side.
Is my point to OP that Sprint is good for his purposes? Lol. No, far from it. In fact quite the opposite. I could switch to AT*T for cheaper than my Sprint line (for tiered data, guh) but much much better data rates, or Verizon for better coverage and only slightly more expensive...but...I haven't. Why? When the meat hits the metal I've got something that is already great for me (acceptable speeds, relatively speaking) and have something I would hate to lose (unlimited data).
I think from the sound of OP that he has something that is great for him (can live with his tiered or throttled data) and has something he would hate to lose (2-4+mbps data rates).
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I advise going to the Sprint store where you live and testing data speeds on the floor phones.
Then, if it's satisfactory, you always have 14 days if things change depending on other areas to travel frequently.
It really isn't helpful to you if someone that's on the other side of the country is telling you about their data speeds.
All carriers, even Verizon, vary based upon area.
As far as with the Epic Touch, make sure it's up to date so you don't have any LOS issue and you'll love the phone.
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There's Matty giving the best answer again.. Nothings changed.
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Lmao. Visit the sprint section before you think of it. May as well go to Verizon because you won't be happy with sprint data speeds at all. Ps winmax kills your battery something fierce
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wimax isn't too bad like it was on last years wimax devices. It sleeps frequently and battery lasts pretty long under moderate usage. Its probably better on battery than Verizon's LTE phones
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As much as I love my Epic Touch 4G, I won't miss Sprint's crappy data speeds one bit. I've never gotten even to 1mbit download speeds in any state I've travelled to. I work in Los Angeles (Downtown, Culver City, Marina Del Rey, Pacific Palisades, Century City, Brentwood, Westwood, Malibu, Gardena...) and I've never got one full mbit of download speeds any place I've travelled to in California, Connecticut, Texas, Nevada... So I don't think it is just once city that I'm paying for bad service but every place I need service.
I'm looking forward to breaking my contract with Sprint by forcing a Verizon PRL on my phone. I won't feel in the least bit guilty as in my opinion Sprint is throttling my data speeds every place I go and they claim they are delivering 4G but my phone can't ever stay connected with 4G. When it does actually stay connected to 4G for a couple of minutes I've never gotten more than 600k. I've tested other ET4Gs - all get the same speed where I need them to get good speed.
This video got me stoked (not because I want to replace my phone, just my crappy provider).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySymqERaHEA&feature=player_embedded#t=21s
I've never even downloaded 1 GB in a month of data so a 2GB plan with unlimited minutes will give me more minutes and much faster download speeds for the same price as I've given Sprint for so many years.
The Galaxy Nexus is a nice phone from what I can tell but it isn't the phone that makes me want to switch carriers, it is just Sprint that is driving me away.
Your so cool.
You know about PRL and how to do fancy stuff to your phone....wow
I wish I was like you.
Actually I wouldn't know how to force the PRL but for the HELPFUL people on this forum who post tips on things like this.
So again, I'd like to thank the people on this forum who help me get the most out of my phone!
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I'm currently doing this exact same thing. I have forced roaming on the phone and have been roaming since Friday all day long, but I just found out today about prl 1115 and roaming on 3g Verizon. will definitely have to do that tonight and hopefully I will be able to leave this terrible company in no time.
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NICE!!! If I could even get 1/4th of that speed where I use my phone, I wouldn't bother to switch.
I've been trying to trade my Epic for the AT&T version for a while.
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I've wanted to try this too, as im sick of their horrible service, but how long does it take for them to notice and cancel your contract?
When they cancel your service with you have to pay the cancellation fee since THEY booted you?
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When they cancel your service with you have to pay the cancellation fee since THEY booted you?
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No that is why I'd switch my PRL so they cancel my contract. Otherwise I'd just cancel my contract outright if the ETF was the same.
Lets be honest though, data isn't really up to par with T-Mobile or Verizon maybe. But they offer unlimited data and thats the only reason I'm still on it. 5gb cap from T-Mobile was not enough for me. Also don't we get charged for roaming?
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Lets be honest though, data isn't really up to par with T-Mobile or Verizon maybe. But they offer unlimited data and thats the only reason I'm still on it. 5gb cap from T-Mobile was not enough for me. Also don't we get charged for roaming?
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I certainly understand people sticking with Sprint if they get good service.
In my area it is barely usable and I'd rather be offered a 50 gallon drum of water for a month than get all the water I can carry home as long as I only take it home one teaspoonful at a time. I average about .35mbit download speeds in all the areas I visit (some a little higher, some a little lower) and I've yet to lock onto strong 4G signal. One of the few times I locked was at LAX where I got about .8mbit download. I'll torrent on my cable where I get about 30mbit down so I don't exactly need that much data on my phone.
No charge for roaming on my contract. And I only average about 500-1000 megs per month so Verizon's 2Gbyte plan will leave me with PLENTY of headroom (I realize they have larger plans but 2 will be save me money and give me plenty of headroom).
Awsome another "Im leaving sprint" announcement thread. How many of these have I seen already? You forgot to say at the end how android sucks and your getting an iPhone.
T-mobile has the sgs2, I'd grab that one or the sensation XL.
Im debating doing the same thing, but I'll end up paying more for less incentives in the end.
if you were more of a data monger i would suggest you to wait it out for sprint to upgrade all its towers and switch to LTE because i believe we can be grandfathered into unlimited data. fortunately i recently got a tower upgrade in my area. i honestly used to get score btwn ~23kb to 200kb, but now im getting ~1mb down which is insane (lol) and all i ever need to perform the daily routine
check this out. you can search the cities you are in and see if they have any plans to upgrade towers near you
https://network.sprint.com/search/los+angelos,+Ca/
also, have you tried contacting Sprint about this? being a long-term customer they usually bend to your will if you call and complain to a manager, just threaten to cancel. they might let you off your contract hassle-free or at least give you some cash money towards ur bills until you drop them or something. i would give it a shot being that youre determined to leave anyway
hope this helps! and best of luck with whatever you decide to do
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if you were more of a data monger i would suggest you to wait it out for sprint to upgrade all its towers and switch to LTE because i believe we can be grandfathered into unlimited data. fortunately i recently got a tower upgrade in my area. i honestly used to get score btwn ~23kb to 200kb, but now im getting ~1mb down which is insane (lol) and all i ever need to perform the daily routine
check this out. you can search the cities you are in and see if they have any plans to upgrade towers near you
https://network.sprint.com/search/los+angelos,+Ca/
also, have you tried contacting Sprint about this? being a long-term customer they usually bend to your will if you call and complain to a manager, just threaten to cancel. they might let you off your contract hassle-free or at least give you some cash money towards ur bills until you drop them or something. i would give it a shot being that youre determined to leave anyway
hope this helps! and best of luck with whatever you decide to do
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Thanks. Sprint has been telling me for years that either they are upgrading towers in my area so that is why it is slow, they are having a problem with a tower in my area so that is why it is slow or just wait a month or so as they will be upgrading towers in my area. "I ain't fallin for no banana in my tailpipe again".
I agree, I will ask to leave nicely but I doubt Sprint will let me off just because they have crappy data service.
It is my fault for sticking with Sprint for so long, I have no one to blame but myself. I'll miss this phone as it is a great phone but in the 20 cities I've tried it in (switched it once so far) none of them gave me good speed. I had the 3D before this and while it got slightly better speed it still sucked compared to what other carriers are delivering.
there is absolutely no reason i got better service 3 yrs ago with my iphone 3g, 2 years ago with my nexus one, and this past year with my fascinate and nexus S on cricket, than this crap ass slow sprint 3g internet. I get over 8 mbs close to here on 4g, but not at home, nor anywhere in my hood. so i'm bout to roam the **** out of them and dip ... i cant stand slow 3g, this was the reason i got a nexus one in the first place, tired of slow edge speeds with iphone on tmobile... i might as well have a iphone on sprint since they get all the 3g bandwidth i hear... terrible terrible shame, because i absolutely love the device and a galaxy nexus with CRAP OMAP is not appealing, i'm basically just going to flash it to boost or cricket if they can't do any better with the 3g. its retarded slow ... like 69 kb on sprint tower, 300-500 on vzw
EDIT: and on cricket I was getting 800 down consistently 1mb some other places and this was including at home. So why does cricket have better towers in this area? who cares... they do.
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I did this recently with us cellular. I didn't change prls but I moved out of their service area. I got a threatening letter that I violated my contract and when I cancelled I was told I had to pay a prorated etf. I wasn't too impressed :X
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I sincerely hope that by the time you do that, Sprint changes their policies and charges you for every abusage KB you use.
If you can't handle adult agreements, don't enter into one.
If Sprint is not providing the service that is written in the contract then be an adult and have the ETF waived.
Either way, grow up.
Has anyone else noticed just how much slower sprint is lately? I mean, we all knew that they've began having major issues last year, but now, seems worse. I literally can't get above .15mbps on any of my three phones. That's in most of the Denver/Aurora area. Before it was slow, now it is just not usable.
The only excuse Sprint ever has is the network vision, but really? I'm pretty fed up with this dial up.
I'll atop ranting now, am still under contract with them .
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Same thing with me in metro Detroit
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Damn, I know in Atlanta it is rather bad as well.
Just hard to remain optimistic, specially knowing that the unlimited model, while nice, isn't going to help with speed. Just too many people can abuse the already suffering network. While limits suck, they really force people to watch their data use, or pay for higher usage.
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I live near la and they've been doing their network update here. I've been getting speeds around 1500 kbps but for the last couple weeks I'm only averaging at 300 kbps now
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I live near la and they've been doing their network update here. I've been getting speeds around 1500 kbps but for the last couple weeks I'm only averaging at 300 kbps now
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Even at 1500, still pretty crappy when compared to ATT and TMO network speeds over hspa.
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It's like that in Jacksonville, FL too. Speeds have went down by nearly half.
To be honest I feel like there more consirend about virgin mobile and boost mobile than us ...since the fact people now a days don't want a contract and sprint keeps giving them phones that are similar to ours hence LG marquee and soon to be HTC evo design ...not to mention there both gonna have wimax ...aint that a slap in the face
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To be honest I feel like there more consirend about virgin mobile and boost mobile than us ...since the fact people now a days don't want a contract and sprint keeps giving them phones that are similar to ours hence LG marquee and soon to be HTC evo design ...not to mention there both gonna have wimax ...aint that a slap in the face
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I checked out tmobile prepaid, and prepaid just makes more sense seems like. Yea, you pay full retail price if you want a nice phone, but you don't need to pay any hidden upgrade fees, or weird surcharges sprint has, nor is it as expensive. And I can't speak for everyone, but I honestly don't see network vision doing anything but allowing sprint catch up to the point where most others are already at, except for years later. And if they keep this unlimited model going, I only see the network continuing on suffering. Sure, Lte would be nice and the fact that all new high end sprint phones are lte capable. Unless you're in major 6 markets though, yore stuck on crawling 3g till at least 2014, that's when they plan to roll out lte here in Colorado, not to mention it will only be the initial roll out, only among major highways, even spottier than wimax.
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The thing I've noticed about CD a devices is that they don't drop calls nearly as often as GSM models do. I've noticed this with several devices amongst my family. I'm not saying cdma is immune to it, just that they tend to transfer from tower to tower better.
With that in mind, I'd probably go to Verizon if I switched... but I can't stand the amount of things they will charge you for. They charge to block numbers, GPS, etc. T-Mobile sounds ideal as far as pricing goes but if GSM drops calls often then I'm not too sure.
A few months ago i was on cricket with the og epic, i was tired of they crappy service so i was looking to switch. Sprint grabbed me with their truly unlimited data. Guess i should of researched speeds as well =/ but i have hopes for sprint, im stuck with them for 2 years and network vision should (hopefully) hit buffalo ny by then. if i dont get a significant increase in data quality i will most defiantly go with verizon. They may be a bit more expensive but hey, the phrase "you get what you pay for" may apply here
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The thing I've noticed about CD a devices is that they don't drop calls nearly as often as GSM models do. I've noticed this with several devices amongst my family. I'm not saying cdma is immune to it, just that they tend to transfer from tower to tower better.
With that in mind, I'd probably go to Verizon if I switched... but I can't stand the amount of things they will charge you for. They charge to block numbers, GPS, etc. T-Mobile sounds ideal as far as pricing goes but if GSM drops calls often then I'm not too sure.
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Really?! I prefer GSM over CDMA any day. Unless, we are talking about CDMA-Advanced. My reasoning is the whole data speed aspect. With GSM, your 3G speeds are much better due to HSPA and HSPA+ technology. On Sprint, have you ever seen speeds over 2.5mbps in an excellent coverage area with no network load? The max CDMA network that Sprint has can go is 3.2, which is theoretical. TMobile HSPA+21 network can reach 10-12mbps without many issues. HSPA+42, 19-25 in my area during off hours. Verizon CDMA, while much more consistent, isn't much faster than Sprint.
I understand your argument with dropped calls, but I actually have found the opposite to be true. I have less dropped calls while on the go on my T-Mo company phone (GNexus), vs any of the Sprint devices I have. And that is among same area. I am guessing our experiences differ due to coverage in respectable states.
Sprint was good here for a week or less when NV was apparently being worked on in my area.. now it is even worse than before! I'm not sure what they did to the nearest towers but everyone I know around complains lately that their signal inside their house is worse and not as reliable. I've been considering jumping ships to a different carrier, perhaps the T-Mobile prepaid plan... considering I only use like 40 mins a month and only need dependable fast data on the good. Sprint better hope LTE and NV starts working here in the L.A area
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I'm in metro Detroit as well, and data was at least useable in the middle of the night. Now it is horrible all the time. It took me 5 hours to download most of a ROM yesterday, only to drop the download. Grrr
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I used to hit around 1 Meg in the morning. From this speed it drops into nearly single digits throughout the day.
My 3g speeds have gotten cut in half in San Diego this month. I don't even know what its like using the 4G option on this phone which leaves me a little bitter at this point. In fact, listening to others talk about 4G in their areas feels like a series of short stories, wise tales, and mere fables. I'm probably gonna switch to T-mobile once the GS3 drops next month since they are finally getting a decent phone line up. I'm getting tired of the emasculating feeling of begging my girlfriend for data as she hits the WIFI tether Icon of her Verizon unlimited droid all the while knowing that the 4G option in my notification bar is simply a useless battery draining light.
Ans I thought I had it bad lol. The funny thing is that I can take my tmobile phone ans my sprint phone to the sprint store ans tmo would test at least 2x faster vs sprint on wimax, that's with full bars since they have signal boosters at their stores.
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These are the fastest speeds in my area that I've gotten in a couple months. My upload is normally less than .10 Mbps.
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Sprint is becoming a victim of the iPhone own success the way AT&T did when the iPhone first came out. Sprint went from being 4th place in the networks to 1st almost overnight due to having unlimited data and high quality phones. Unfortunately they weren't prepared for it network wise.
I keep getting emails about them building/buying/renting new towers here in Los Angeles, but thus far I haven't seen any quality updates.
My recommendation is to call and complain. Most of the time they'll give you an Airrave for free to keep you as a customer.
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Sprint is becoming a victim of the iPhone own success the way AT&T did when the iPhone first came out. Sprint went from being 4th place in the networks to 1st almost overnight due to having unlimited data and high quality phones. Unfortunately they weren't prepared for it network wise.
I keep getting emails about them building/buying/renting new towers here in Los Angeles, but thus far I haven't seen any quality updates.
My recommendation is to call and complain. Most of the time they'll give you an Airrave for free to keep you as a customer.
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I think that sprint lineup is far from being the first.
A lot of people buy in the whole unlimited data thing, that's just how Americans are. Why have limits when you can have unlimited? Those people don't think about speeds, they think that all data is same lol. Sadly, they also usually don't even get close to 2gb, which is the lowest tier cap by competitors.
Yay, I have unlimited. What is it good for when everything takes ages to do? Videos aren't even worth the effort over sprint mobile data. Having a tmo ans a sprint phone side by side, I can buffer a YouTube in 720p on tmo and watch 2 minutes of video before sprint would load same video in sq.
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Sprint speeds have been terrible in Houston TX for some time now. my contract is up in September, if LTE doesn't fix things I will be leaving. Been a sprint customer for 13 years!
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Is anyone having trouble on 3g. Seems much worse than my Evo. Having trouble connecting to Xda, Facebook etc. During in my car in the same place I eat lunch everyday and I barely have 1 to 2 bars.
I am just an old fashioned country doctor Jim.
Please put sprint tittle on the topic
Anyways try to update prl and profile, if that don't work call sprint to help, they probably will reset your data settings, and it might help, what speeds are you getting on it?
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I can say that the 3G 100% better on the S3 than my OG Epic. It is also now 10x faster and 33% lower latency since Sprint either upgraded or fixed the tower(s) covering downtown Denver, CO.
Which is really good since I don't expect to see LTE for another 18-24 months!
Well try that thanks.Will upload some speeds when I get a chance later.
I am just an old fashioned country doctor Jim.
3g has degraded for me. At work I use to get about 1.5mpbs. Now I'm lucky to get .7mbps. I avg about .4mbps. This may have something to do with iphones sharing the same 3g. I really miss wimax as I used to get it almost everywhere I go. I live in the bay area.
Great improvement in my speeds here in NY
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Great improvement in my speeds here in NY
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Funnily enough, slower for me here in Long Island. I'm lucky to pull over 512k down and up here in my office. I was often getting higher then 1mbit but it's sprint so there was always fluctuation.
I never really had any complaints with Sprint speeds on 3G but after playing with this phone on my office wifi for most of today - I wish LTE was around already, this hardware really deserves better speeds.
it depends on what tower I'm connected to. at home (South Philadelphia, pa), it's nice and zippy. at work (Port Richmond, Philadelphia, pa) it's awful, but that seems to be the trend near my job. Verizon was almost as bad, everyone on t-mo and metro have issues, and at&t is terrible, as well. i don't know what the problem is, Sprint even has a dedicated tower only a block from my job.
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3g has degraded for me. At work I use to get about 1.5mpbs. Now I'm lucky to get .7mbps. I avg about .4mbps. This may have something to do with iphones sharing the same 3g. I really miss wimax as I used to get it almost everywhere I go. I live in the bay area.
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I would love to even get .4 lol
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Funnily enough, slower for me here in Long Island. I'm lucky to pull over 512k down and up here in my office. I was often getting higher then 1mbit but it's sprint so there was always fluctuation.
I never really had any complaints with Sprint speeds on 3G but after playing with this phone on my office wifi for most of today - I wish LTE was around already, this hardware really deserves better speeds.
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Yea coming from T-mobile to Sprint, i'm dying for them to roll out the LTE, don't know what I would do without wifi
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I'm actually getting better speeds on my s3 than any other sprint phone EVER. I consistently get over 1mbps where on my iPhone and gs2(on 3g) I would never even get over 600kbps. It makes not having wimax or lte that bad
I am assuming it has to be Sprint because my wife just bought Evo 4G LTE and having the same problem .
I am just an old fashioned country doctor Jim.
As a reader of several forums, it is apparent to me that there is a pattern of such anomalies being reported by some end users of Sprint's LTE-capable phones in some areas. Remember that these new devices right now are connecting to the legacy EVDO and 3G network, which is in the process of being replaced completely on a localized basis in Sprint's Network Vision rollout.
Because these anecdotal reports are sporadic, and seem to affect more than one LTE device design, while most users report no such problems, I suspect that something is going on with the interaction of these devices with the under-construction network locally. Hopefully this is temporary. The phones are supposed to work fine with the legacy network, and with the under-construction changeover, but I suspect there are some issues.
Sprint has not owned up to any such problems. So we just don't know for sure. Personally, if I were one of those affected, I would not accept a two-year contract beyond the 14-day trial without concrete commitments from Sprint to fix this.
3G speeds are faster than ever in my area. (Jax, FL)
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3G speeds are faster than ever in my area. (Jax, FL)
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That's actually really good if my speed were like that when I was with sprint I would stay with them but I was getting below. 6mbps and the sucks for youtube
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Poor sprint 3g speeds
Ascertion said:
3G speeds are faster than ever in my area. (Jax, FL)
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I wish I could get 3g speeds like that from Sprint, and that is why I am switching to Verizon.
Below are the screenshots of 3g speedtest.
Sprint on the left, Verizon on the right.
It is highly variable on location.I was driving home in traffic through Staten Island and the speeds varied from 2 mb down to .4 mb down and 1 mb up to a low of .2 up. Tried it at four locations. The worst is by far my home in Jersey, .4 down, .2 up. Thank God for Wi-Fi.
I am just an old fashioned country doctor Jim.
I got an EVO 4G LTE and returned it after 4 days. My wife got one at the same time. The MAX download speed I ever got was like 300k. Averaged about 50k.
My S3 on ATT LTE gets 20mbps.
boomerbubba said:
As a reader of several forums, it is apparent to me that there is a pattern of such anomalies being reported by some end users of Sprint's LTE-capable phones in some areas. Remember that these new devices right now are connecting to the legacy EVDO and 3G network, which is in the process of being replaced completely on a localized basis in Sprint's Network Vision rollout.
Because these anecdotal reports are sporadic, and seem to affect more than one LTE device design, while most users report no such problems, I suspect that something is going on with the interaction of these devices with the under-construction network locally. Hopefully this is temporary. The phones are supposed to work fine with the legacy network, and with the under-construction changeover, but I suspect there are some issues.
Sprint has not owned up to any such problems. So we just don't know for sure. Personally, if I were one of those affected, I would not accept a two-year contract beyond the 14-day trial without concrete commitments from Sprint to fix this.
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Network vision upgrades are helping to disrupt service. Its all over the net, and in Sprint forums. I was able to attain 1.92 down and 1.1mb up on 3g in certain areas of the Bronx, NY, and Jamaica Queens in the last 30 days!
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I wish I could get 3g speeds like that from Sprint, and that is why I am switching to Verizon.
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I beat that speed on 3g with my Sprint GS III in the Bronx, and my Photon in Jamaica queens NYC. To all of the people that switched to Verizon at a time when Network Vision is rearing it's head is a shame. Their lack of investigating the issues will cause them to pay more for the next 2 years while people like me will save lots and have unlimited data.
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Is anyone having trouble on 3g. Seems much worse than my Evo. Having trouble connecting to Xda, Facebook etc. During in my car in the same place I eat lunch everyday and I barely have 1 to 2 bars.
I am just an old fashioned country doctor Jim.
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Yep,that's why i just switched to Verizon!!! Tired of sprints Bullsh*t. Now i will have one of the best phones on one of the best 4G networks, and its only $30.00 more per month about $1.15 cent extra per day, Easy decision for me!!! Unlimited talk, text, 4GB of data, and free Mobile Hot spot, $110.00 with insurance for $6.99 with $99.00 deductible $116.00... Sprint insurance is crazy high... Verizon just changed their plans again, Now all plans are called (shared plans) even if you have just one line like me.
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Share Everything Unlimited Talk, Text & 4GB $70.00
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Share Everything Unlimited Talk, Text & 4GB
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SDM REMOTE QUERY ENABLED
4G PROVISIONING $0
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USA ONLY NO ROAM - $0
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You read the title correctly, tmonews and android central. The question is would you switch to Tmobile for 4G HSPA+ data speeds with no caps or overages. I know im seriously thinking about it. The wait for LTE is killing me.
Hmm no caps or overages but..... What about throttling.....
Never mind looks like it will be un throttled.
http://m.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-ready-offer-completely-unlimited-data
No throttling either.
eh, this is how it starts..they offer unlimited then when you download xyz they cripple it to 10KB/s.
after people complain, they will stop throttling then implement a download cap again.
rinse and repeat.
This will be interesting. I'm now doubting how smart it was to sign a new contract with Sprint. With T-Mobile, you have your choice of Nexus and international phones (*cough*Mi2*cough*). Plus, T-Mobile is about to roll out LTE Advance next year. So basically, the plans and pricing should end up similar to Sprint with a very competitive network, but with a much better selection of phones (counting non-T-Mobile-endorsed Nexi and international phones).
I still have confidence in Sprint's NV/LTE upgrade, and I'm plenty satisfied with my S3 for now, so the next 2 years should be good for me, but this news definitely gives one something to ponder.
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My speed test this morning sitting on my porch in the open air with 3 signal bars on 3G.......yes I am STRONGLY considering T-Mobile now.
Sprint sucks and probably always will suck when it comes to data speed.
EDIT: According to the screenshot I had a full signal there smh.
gpgorbosjr said:
My speed test this morning sitting on my porch in the open air with 3 signal bars on 3G.......yes I am STRONGLY considering T-Mobile now.
Sprint sucks and probably always will suck when it comes to data speed.
EDIT: According to the screenshot I had a full signal there smh.
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I would make sure t-mobile is good in your area.
One thing that could keep me is that even T-Mo fanboys get mad about the incompetent, outsourced support line. I hate supporting companies that outsource jobs.
gpgorbosjr said:
My speed test this morning sitting on my porch in the open air with 3 signal bars on 3G.......yes I am STRONGLY considering T-Mobile now.
Sprint sucks and probably always will suck when it comes to data speed.
EDIT: According to the screenshot I had a full signal there smh.
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Where exactly in jersey are you? I know in new brunswick t-mobile was amazing
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DarkManX4lf said:
I would make sure t-mobile is good in your area.
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Where exactly in jersey are you? I know in new brunswick t-mobile was amazing
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I'm in Linden (right next to Elizabeth)....I don't get those speeds all the time I just screencapped it this AM and was using for an excuse to share it....
I don't have a problem with Sprint's speed like I used to WHEN I GET IT. The problem is there are a lot of areas where it either connects only to 1X (inside certain buildings, but other carriers don't have this issue so it isn't the building) or times like in this screenshot where it is displaying a good 3G signal but the data doesn't actually work, it seems stuck.
I wouldn't switch to T-Mo. There speeds have gotten faster but nothing has changed to ease my mind as to their coverage when making calls. I remember I tried them for a week and there were places I got NO signal. No data, no voice.
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This will be interesting. I'm now doubting how smart it was to sign a new contract with Sprint. With T-Mobile, you have your choice of Nexus and international phones (*cough*Mi2*cough*). Plus, T-Mobile is about to roll out LTE Advance next year. So basically, the plans and pricing should end up similar to Sprint with a very competitive network, but with a much better selection of phones (counting non-T-Mobile-endorsed Nexi and international phones).
I still have confidence in Sprint's NV/LTE upgrade, and I'm plenty satisfied with my S3 for now, so the next 2 years should be good for me, but this news definitely gives one something to ponder.
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I'm in the exact same boat. I've been with Sprint for over a decade and I was upset when they took away the Premire Program considering I had just qualified Gold status shortly after they came out with it. I let it slide because even though I don't use a ton of network data, I hate the idea of being kept to a limit and/or being throttled once I get there.
Like you, I'll give Sprint a fair chance here. I'm around the Chicago area, so we're in full blown Network Vision upgrade which has been hit and miss. Some places are great, others are atrocious. If their plans pan out, I'll stick with Sprint, but if not, I'll gladly jump to a GSM carrier for a variety of reasons, especially now that they're going to offer truly unlimited data as well.
if this holds true, im out of here with sprint. screw giving them a chance when were paying $10 for premium data. Dial up speeds are not premium data. hell even if we werent paying $10 a month, id still be considering it. I cant even access internet pages in good 3g areas half the time without having to refresh 4-5 times/ Let alone getting any of the apps to refresh. when I was with t-mobile. I always got 6-12mbps. Who cares that its hspa+. I would wait for LTE, but judging by what ive read, Sprint LTE has alot of connectivity issues as well.
If tmobile starts to offer unthrottled unlimited data and it cripples the network, then ill be in the same boat im already in with sprint. So i really cant lose. Paying these prices for this type of service is not acceptable to me.
Im at my wits end with sprint
I tried Tmobile for a week before canceling during the 15 day period. Speeds outdoors were good, but when I entered buildings I lost service completely. If you switch to Tmobile make sure you test indoors. I went from 5 bars at my desk to zero.
T-Mobile service is good in my area. I might consider it. GSM is better than CDMA anyways. I always liked tmobile. But i think im gonna have to wait until my contract is over.
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Where exactly in jersey are you? I know in new brunswick t-mobile was amazing
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He posted the longitude/latitude in his speedtest. Just plug those into google maps and you can see his porch.
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He posted the longitude/latitude in his speedtest. Just plug those into google maps and you can see his porch.
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Lol....I don't think the GPS is actually good enough to lead right to my porch....but either way I don't enable the gps satellites so the location is a bit off. Got very close, but still about 3 blocks off.
EDIT: I was more worried about IP haha, but I'm guessing that info there isn't important.
I'm interested in seeing how this pans out. I just wish it was easier to try out T-Mobile in my area without feeling like a douche if I say no and return everything. (lol)
Master_sk3 said:
You read the title correctly, tmonews and android central. The question is would you switch to Tmobile for 4G HSPA+ data speeds with no caps or overages. I know im seriously thinking about it. The wait for LTE is killing me.
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If that was confirmed I would be jumping ship asap. But what about the price?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
blackdragon79 said:
If that was confirmed I would be jumping ship asap. But what about the price?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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Supposedly, everything unlimited would be $89.99/Mo. Not sure if that's worth the huge ETF for Sprint, but it's tempting for me, especially since I would pare that down a bit by getting as few minutes as possible.
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Supposedly, everything unlimited would be $89.99/Mo. Not sure if that's worth the huge ETF for Sprint, but it's tempting for me, especially since I would pare that down a bit by getting as few minutes as possible.
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Let sprint kick you to the curb all you have to do is roam 24/7 sprint will eventually drop you with no etf. That's a option to try. If t mobile didn't want a fee to sign up I would do just that.
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
I live in Orange Country, California. There's Wimax blanketing the whole county. I love it.
Unfortunately, no LTE yet. ETA mid-next-year.
I, recently, upgraded to the S3. I tried it out for more than a week. I love the phone with all its bells and whistles. However, because there's no LTE in my area, I was connecting to the 3G. And, it's horridly SLOW.
So, I decided to switch back to my S2 Epic Touch and take advantage of the Wimax speed until LTE comes to my area.
Am I crazy? I'm wondering if anybody else have had the same experience.
You're not crazy at all. I'm currently in Orange County too, specifically Orange/Garden Grove. I love the 4G at my work office. My 4G pulls 8mbps down, inside the building. But LTE rollouts in OC shouldn't take much longer, I'll be ready to buy a Galaxy Nexus or S3 when it does.
knite75 said:
I live in Orange Country, California. There's Wimax blanketing the whole county. I love it.
Unfortunately, no LTE yet. ETA mid-next-year.
I, recently, upgraded to the S3. I tried it out for more than a week. I love the phone with all its bells and whistles. However, because there's no LTE in my area, I was connecting to the 3G. And, it's horridly SLOW.
So, I decided to switch back to my S2 Epic Touch and take advantage of the Wimax speed until LTE comes to my area.
Am I crazy? I'm wondering if anybody else have had the same experience.
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Nope not crazy at all.. I was actually thinking about getting the note 2 but it's no lte here in DC yet; great 4G tho.. And I use my 4G a lot to tether and watch videos.. So I been thinking about that before I go get it next week
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
Yeah, me no loco!
I really like the current generation of phones. For instance, the EVO 4G LTE has one of the best camera. The aperture is F2.0. Wow! It's awesome for me, because I frequently take pictures of my little daughter. But, that too, I quickly returned, because I couldn't stand the horrid 3G speed.
Yupz, I'm also in Orange County enjoying great 4G WiMax speeds. Not gonna upgrade to an LTE phone until LTE actually gets here.
I Live in craptastic Oklahoma with no 4G I however visited Orange County a while back and was shocked at how amazing the 4G was. At most places it proved faster than the wifi I could use. Can't say the same for a recent trip to St Louis.
Funny such big cities have to wait on LTE, mine will be live by Xmas time and I'm in the sticks. But mines included in like a 1/4 state upgrade covering about 4 major cities and 20 smaller cities. I'm just trying to decide what to blow my upgrade on
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LOL so true. When I'm at Starbucks, I don't connect to their hotspots anymore. Much slower than my Wimax
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I Live in craptastic Oklahoma with no 4G I however visited Orange County a while back and was shocked at how amazing the 4G was. At most places it proved faster than the wifi I could use. Can't say the same for a recent trip to St Louis.
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If you live in a Wimax area with no lte, there is no reason to upgrade. Its the reason sprint is still supporting this phone I think.
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Frankly, if Wimax and LTE is not available in your area and their 3G is your only avenue, i wouldn't recommend Sprint at all. "Unlimited" data is irrelevant if you're speeding along at a horrid rate. Smartphones need a decent network connection to function at all.
Don't get me wrong, I love Sprint. Their customer service is great. You can get a live person (from USA) customer service within 30 second when calling in. And, their online customer service chat is fantastic too.
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Welllll, must be nice. I have no 4g wimax nor lte here with an eta of 2015. No matter which phone i get, unless i switch carriers, is gonna suck nuts! Thanks for making me feel terrible.....lol.
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Sprint has definitely come a long way, ESP in customer service considering 5 years ago they were possibly the worst. No wimax or lte in my area, but I visit friends who have wimax and love it. I will be holding out until the s4 most likely
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Hate you all in the OC lol. In SGV wimax is spotty as hell. You would think it would be better being a valley that has 2 million people lol..
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If you live in a Wimax area with no lte, there is no reason to upgrade. Its the reason sprint is still supporting this phone I think.
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It's still a great phone. They might just keep selling it until NV is fully rolled out.
Samsung will keep supporting this phone with software updates until it reaches it's end of life age of 18 months. I would hope they keep software updates coming until the 24 month mark.
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I can probably see us getting key lime prime or whatever android upgrade is coming out next. There's literally no reason we can't update if it's not a major update... If it is a major update then we'll probably get a value pack update like the OG SGS if they decide to not give us the full update.
Anyways... I've been saying this since forever but really.
If you're in a non-lte area with wimax and LTE deployment is not coming within 6 months then stick with your current wimax phones.
If you're in a wimax area or non wimax area with LTE coming within 6 months then update when you start seeing NV upgrades or increased 3g speeds (3g speeds will increase before LTE goes live) as LTE should come relatively soon as 3g speeds indicate fiber or microwave backhaul.
If you're on the fringe of Sprint service and get ****e coverage/service then switch to another carrier and come back in a year or two where sprint deploys LTE 800mhz and fills up all those holes.
Where are you guys getting your LTE timeframe estimates?
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Where are you guys getting your LTE timeframe estimates?
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Being a sponsor at www.s4gru.com gives you privy to a lot of information including estimated launch dates, current progress of upgrades, location of said upgrades, and knowledge on what network vision actually is.
All markets are being shuffled thanks to the SoftBank investment in sprint. There is really no more set dates nor time frames anymore. In fact, Samsung, Alcatel-Lucent, Ericsson, and all the other vendors and subcontractors are moving all over areas regardless of market boundaries. Most work is being done in out NE, East, South, Gulf, texas & surrounding areas along with steady progress in Los Angeles (and surrounding counties) and the San Francisco Bay area.
knite75 said:
I live in Orange Country, California. There's Wimax blanketing the whole county. I love it.
Unfortunately, no LTE yet. ETA mid-next-year.
I, recently, upgraded to the S3. I tried it out for more than a week. I love the phone with all its bells and whistles. However, because there's no LTE in my area, I was connecting to the 3G. And, it's horridly SLOW.
So, I decided to switch back to my S2 Epic Touch and take advantage of the Wimax speed until LTE comes to my area.
Am I crazy? I'm wondering if anybody else have had the same experience.
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I'm in the same boat . Love the s3 but no lte(yorba linda) got me back to my s2 and used 26GB of 4g in my bill cycle
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