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Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
Cheers
cmac86 said:
Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
Cheers
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Unfortunately I don't believe its possible. I wish though...
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cmac86 said:
Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
Cheers
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Yeah! Is it possible?
I ordered all components yesterday to test this exact thing. I will report back with my findings. I ordered the mhl adapter, HDMI cable, and the otg cable. I already have a micro SD reader that's extremely small. Total cost was $30 on amazon.... I also ordered a wii sensor bar that was around 6 bis. I'm also going to attempt to integrate the otg cable in a case. Pics will follow
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I think that isn't possible. Both MHL and USB OTG uses the same microusb port, but behind that there are different circuits. Depending on wich connector you plug in the hardware will know if you are connecting an usb or a HDMI.
More, the microusb on MHL connector is only for ac supply.
cmac86 said:
Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
Cheers
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From what ive read, it is not possible. Youre disabling usb to get hdmi function through 4 wires. And that function needs power.
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Since I'll be using them either way. It doesn't hurt to try.
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MHL and OTG
@justin94, please report back if you get it working. Actually, if you can get OTG to work at all with or without MHL let us know. I've gotten the MHL to work. But I need to connect some USB devices up, and from what I've read, the current Nexus stock firmware doesn't support OTG/Host.
Also, what OTG cable did you order? I've heard there are ones that don't work?
waiting for an answer.
Just got confirmation of shipment the mhl adapter and HDMI cable. No estimated deliver date as of yet. Have patience people.
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justin94 said:
Just got confirmation of shipment the mhl adapter and HDMI cable. No estimated deliver date as of yet. Have patience people.
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NO NAO~! lol. j/k
MHL will only charge the phone via USB. You can't use USB data. Bluetooth is your only option for external hardware input (controllers, etc... but not thumb drives)
I don't want to rain on your parade, but I said it would charge your phone at the same time, but it's limited to 500ma. Nexus reports as USB charging, not AC charging. So if you intend to watch a long movie and game real hard via emulation and bluetooth, your phone will run out of battery.
Another poor design decision. They should have just put a HDMI port separately. MHL fail.
The only saving grace will be using the pogo pins to charge the phone via AC so you can get 1A charging while using MHL.
MHL fail.
Update!!!
Just received the mhl adapter and HDMI cable. Its plug and play, however, it does require power..... so my hopes of getting this to work are almost over..... except that I fairly good with electronics. So I'm going to do some splicing and dicing and see what works.
Don't worry, if it works I will post a full tutorial
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Update bump.
Just got the otg cable. Tested and works with stick mount. Later on tonight I will try to get them working simultaneously
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anxious to know how it works out. I've got the MHL and HDMI. It works but when I pulled the usb power the MHL went lights out so it may only be for power source. but you never know.
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anxious to know how it works out. I've got the MHL and HDMI. It works but when I pulled the usb power the MHL went lights out so it may only be for power source. but you never know.
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Unfortunately from what I understand that's all its for.
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Any news yet?
Sorry everyone. Due to some family issues I have really had time to sit down with array of electronics to try and make this work. Hopefully I can get to it before this weekend
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Justin94,
How do you plan to plug the MHL/HDMI adapter and USB OTG into the the GNex since it has one usb port. This has baffled my mind.
Some type of splitter configuration.
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Anyone know if a MICRO USB to FEMALE USB cables are available? I posted a link below of what Im talking about but it is a MINI USB to female (example)
I'm trying to hook up a keyboard and a mouse to my galaxy nexus so im looking for a splitter that has 2 FEMALE usb ends
http://www.staples.com/Staples-4-Po...:Cables_Hubs_Adapters_&_Switches:715440:36302
I was wondering the same thing. I was thinking of making my own dock and having this apart of it would be pretty sweet.
i know im trying to find something like that. I was able to use an OTG Host Cable and i plugged my logitech wireless transmitter to it for my mouse and it worked on my Nexus it was sweet so i started thinking what if I can find a cable with 2 female ends so I can hook up a transmitter for a keyboard and one for the mouse.
Very interesting!!!
Motorola makes a micro USB to female USB. They sell it as an accessory to the Zoom. Use that with a USB hub.
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You can find micro usb to mini usb adapters on ebay. ($0.99)
They are mini usb (female) to micro usb (male).
Connect them to your mini usb cables/devices and make them
micro usb cables/devices
Look for OTG (on the go) cables, like these:
http://shop.mobileweb.ebay.com/sear...bdacc?kw=USB+otg+galaxy+nexus&x=0&y=0&cmd=SKW
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I am typing this on my Logitech DiNovo Edge keyboard. It is a bluetooth keyboard and trackpad. I use it for my theater PC/seedbox/home server.
I paired it to my GNex and everything works great, mouse and keyboard!
It is a little expensive, but no wires, and its a gorgeous piece of hardware.
http://mobile.logitech.com/keyboards/keyboard/devices/192
Also it will leave the port open on the phone, so you can connect to your
TV. Really looking forward to Ubuntu's news today!
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Dakota0206 said:
I am typing this on my Logitech DiNovo Edge keyboard. It is a bluetooth keyboard and trackpad. I use it for my theater PC/seedbox/home server.
I paired it to my GNex and everything works great, mouse and keyboard!
It is a little expensive, but no wires, and its a gorgeous piece of hardware.
http://mobile.logitech.com/keyboards/keyboard/devices/192
Also it will leave the port open on the phone, so you can connect to your
TV. Really looking forward to Ubuntu's news today!
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Thanks for that it looks really good and you're right I would still have an open port so i'll probably use an MHL adaptor that can charge at the same time.
cbay said:
You can find micro usb to mini usb adapters on ebay. ($0.99)
They are mini usb (female) to micro usb (male).
Connect them to your mini usb cables/devices and make them
micro usb cables/devices
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Thats looks good. now I just gotta find a mini usb to full usb in a Y cable with two full usb ends so I can hook up usb devices to it.
or a Y cable that has two mini usb female ends and the other one would be male mini usb
I'd second the USB hub idea. I've got a small 4-port hub with a memory card reader built in that I connect via an OTG cable. The side benefit is that it's a powered hub so I can connect an external battery or AC adapter to it so USB devices will pull power from it instead of the phone. It's really not much bulkier than some weird multi-headed cable solution and when I only need one device (which is most of the time) the compact OTG cable works fine.
FYI, I don't think you can split the USB to support HDMI on one side and USB on the other, to my knowledge the chip in the phone only supports one at a time. Once HDMI is enabled you need to look at Bluetooth devices.
yea makes sense for the hub. I was just trying to avoid using bluetooth because Im sure the HDMI would draw power to push to screen but then again it would be plugged into the side for AC. I think that bluetooth keyboard mentioned earlier sounds like a good idea. It's got a mouse pad and keyboard all in one.
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yea makes sense for the hub. I was just trying to avoid using bluetooth because Im sure the HDMI would draw power to push to screen but then again it would be plugged into the side for AC. I think that bluetooth keyboard mentioned earlier sounds like a good idea. It's got a mouse pad and keyboard all in one.
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It actually works really well. I highly recommend it.
Also like someone said I don't think it would be possible to push HD video a keyboard and a mouse all through a hub.
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Oke so here is the question.
is it posible to do a setup with USB to vga/HDMI + keyboard&mous and maybe a USB stik/ExHDD?
all trough micro usb? or is there only 1 posibility that you use UDB to VGA/HDMI and the rest trough bluethoot/wifi?
i need to hook up my phone to my monitor vga port for a product presentation.
i really hope this is posible.
or maybe makeing it posible trough app wize.
sorry for my lack of english,but im in a hurry atm.
You need a mhl adapter...HDMI to MHL to TV.. need power to this cable also that connects to the side of the adapter.
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Like above said, MHL to HDMI adapter. You can't connect any USB stick / keyboard or mouse to the phone while connected with the MHL adapter though.
Herman76 said:
Like above said, MHL to HDMI adapter. You can't connect any USB stick / keyboard or mouse to the phone while connected with the MHL adapter though.
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ah bummer, thats what i wanted to know.
I bought a original Samsung USB OTG Cable for my Samsung Galaxy S3 from online store ( shopsection.com ) , can anyone post tips and tricks about it.
according to my testing, Most of all USB devices can access
1- Amazing cable, it works perfect in Galaxy S II, Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note
2- Connect pendrive 2GB, 4GB, 8Gb, 16GB and access files , documents, songs, movies instant from your S3
3- Like to draw anything without C-Pen stylus? connect USB mouse and draw anything u want as like in computer mouse cursor
4- feeling touch to type on touch screen? connect USB keyboard via OTG cable and start typing SMS and Emails.
5- Does your friends running out of battery ?, connect their mobile with their usb data cable to OTG cable and get charged
6- Also if your friend give access for "Mass storage" access his files from his mobile phone
7- want to take instant printout from your S 3, connect printer USB to OTG cable and give a shot
Article from other websites about OTG cable,
- Remote Access your mobile using Data modem
- support PS3 controller
also if anyone has more tips and tricks for this OTG cable, kindly post it. so thrilled to enjoy its benefits.
I heard also Xbox 360 wired remotes work as well
I have a chinese non-oem OTG cable and works fine with pretty much every USB devide I have (usb memories, keyboard, mouse). I havent tried game remotes or a printer.
Not as amazing as the adapter Samsung will be releasing whenever they can be bothered because it will use the full 11 pins and allow MHL and other accessories simultaneously, but like always they take so long releasing accessories people just get pissed off while they waiting.
Yes Micheal 100% acceptable. only advantage for OTG cable was they launched long back after few months from Galaxy SII. But same cable we are using it for Galaxy Note and Galaxy SIII. But we are really worried for Flip Cover launch for SIII. it took nearly 2 weeks time from SIII mobile launch.
There are plenty of local manufacturers releasing case and covers and even OTG cable. only this guy has the original samsung OTG cable in India shopsection.com/item/USB_Host_OTG_Cable_for_Samsung_Galaxy_S_3 for sale with offer price.
Michael_P said:
Not as amazing as the adapter Samsung will be releasing whenever they can be bothered because it will use the full 11 pins and allow MHL and other accessories simultaneously, but like always they take so long releasing accessories people just get pissed off while they waiting.
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Another friend from Singapore told me, OTG cable used to connect medical equipment. not sure what it is.
is it possible to connect usb device to OTG and can we use hdmi port to display mobile screen USB host to TV ??? did anyone tried this?
fbloise said:
I heard also Xbox 360 wired remotes work as well
I have a chinese non-oem OTG cable and works fine with pretty much every USB devide I have (usb memories, keyboard, mouse). I havent tried game remotes or a printer.
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ananmetro said:
Another friend from Singapore told me, OTG cable used to connect medical equipment. not sure what it is.
is it possible to connect usb device to OTG and can we use hdmi port to display mobile screen USB host to TV ??? did anyone tried this?
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You need MHL cable to connect HDMI to Tv and you can't connect over Mass Storage mode to Tv, Car etc because Samsung in their wisdom decided not to include it, and I know iPhone has things like blood pressure and heart rate monitors you can connect but never heard of it on Android, but it's possible to create a driver to connect pretty much anything with a USB port to Android.
Bought this otg cable for cheaper rate in local market, it worked for 2 months but i could not connect my Sony Pendrive 8GB. any application needed to upgrade on my Note to support 8gb? can your post me the link whr u purchased samsung otg cable, how long u hv been using it? is that original with warranty?
all those tips tested by you?
ananmetro said:
I bought a original Samsung USB OTG Cable for my Samsung Galaxy S3 from online store ( shopsection.com ) , can anyone post tips and tricks about it.
according to my testing, Most of all USB devices can access
1- Amazing cable, it works perfect in Galaxy S II, Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note
2- Connect pendrive 2GB, 4GB, 8Gb, 16GB and access files , documents, songs, movies instant from your S3
3- Like to draw anything without C-Pen stylus? connect USB mouse and draw anything u want as like in computer mouse cursor
4- feeling touch to type on touch screen? connect USB keyboard via OTG cable and start typing SMS and Emails.
5- Does your friends running out of battery ?, connect their mobile with their usb data cable to OTG cable and get charged
6- Also if your friend give access for "Mass storage" access his files from his mobile phone
7- want to take instant printout from your S 3, connect printer USB to OTG cable and give a shot
Article from other websites about OTG cable,
- Remote Access your mobile using Data modem
- support PS3 controller
also if anyone has more tips and tricks for this OTG cable, kindly post it. so thrilled to enjoy its benefits.
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I myself tested most of features and its working as i said. Not sure what is problem with your flashdrive, but mine everything works. format your memory card and test it again.
bought it from https://www.shopsection.com/item/USB_Host_OTG_Cable_for_Samsung_Galaxy_S_3
Its original samsung accessories and you get 6 months warranty. so you can claim if any issues after 2 months. I believe only these guys selling Samsung S3 original products like flip cover and stylus pen in India
https://www.shopsection.com/item/Flip_Cover_for_Samsung_Galaxy_S3_i9300_(Blue)
moyud said:
Bought this otg cable for cheaper rate in local market, it worked for 2 months but i could not connect my Sony Pendrive 8GB. any application needed to upgrade on my Note to support 8gb? can your post me the link whr u purchased samsung otg cable, how long u hv been using it? is that original with warranty?
all those tips tested by you?
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Um, how about these tips:
Super cool video JoyStick connectivity is really great....
NZtechfreak said:
Um, how about these tips:
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Can you buy any brand USB OTG cable and they will work?
alfy! said:
Can you buy any brand USB OTG cable and they will work?
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Wow 2nd post. Read much? :thumbdown:
fbloise said:
I heard also Xbox 360 wired remotes work as well
I have a chinese non-oem OTG cable and works fine with pretty much every USB devide I have (usb memories, keyboard, mouse). I havent tried game remotes or a printer.
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Does anybody know if arduino is doing anything with this? It would be awesome if you could edit and upload arduino sketches using an android phone and an otg cable.
moyud said:
Bought this otg cable for cheaper rate in local market, it worked for 2 months but i could not connect my Sony Pendrive 8GB. any application needed to upgrade on my Note to support 8gb? can your post me the link whr u purchased samsung otg cable, how long u hv been using it? is that original with warranty?
all those tips tested by you?
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The first thing that you need to check is how your thumb drive is formatted. I haven't tried a thumb drive on my SIII yet but on Atrixs I've evaluated they could only interface with FAT thumb drives. NTFS wouldn't work. You should also try a different model of thumb drive, I don't know about the power requirements but it might just be too high.
USB On The Go cable awareness not upto the level. Samsung must advertise about their accessories too as like Nokia. OTG cable is really useful to access files instant. but i wonder why its only suitable for very few models and since Galaxy Y is also has update android firmware.
anybody tried OTG cable other than S III?
Anyone know if a 32GB flash drive would work with otg cable?
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rvpals said:
Anyone know if a 32GB flash drive would work with otg cable?
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Yes.
Did anyone get external usb hard drive to work with otg cable on the same three. I have tried but it does not work for me, both 2.5&3.5
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rvpals said:
Did anyone get external usb hard drive to work with otg cable on the same three. I have tried but it does not work for me, both 2.5&3.5
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I think the external hard drives will only work if you use a usb port multiplier with a external power source. Dont quote me on that though!
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Miggless said:
I think the external hard drives will only work if you use a usb port multiplier with a external power source. Dont quote me on that though!
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I have actually try plugin my external hard drive with 2 headed USB cable, one connects to the USB OTG cable, one end connects to a USB port for power, and it still doesn't work.
It would be nice if it would work though.
Hi All,
Has anyone tested the new nexus 7 (2013) with a slim port and tried USB OTG at the same time?
I am very keen to find out if i can use a Nexus 7 as a portal Media machine to play back movies from a thumb drive on Hotel TVs when i travel without the need to move the file.
I understand I'd lose ability to charge the nexus 7 using USB OTG (OTG limitation) but I can live with that.
Thanks for any results
Tony.
Acuum2 said:
Hi All,
Has anyone tested the new nexus 7 (2013) with a slim port and tried USB OTG at the same time?
I am very keen to find out if i can use a Nexus 7 as a portal Media machine to play back movies from a thumb drive on Hotel TVs when i travel without the need to move the file.
I understand I'd lose ability to charge the nexus 7 using USB OTG (OTG limitation) but I can live with that.
Thanks for any results
Tony.
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AFAIK the Slimport cable needs to be directly plugged into the USB port so it can switch the Nexus 4 from standard microUSB to Slimport broadcast mode on negotiating with the hardware. If you attempted to run the Slimport adaptor through a hub or Y-cable it wouldn't work.
Thanks,
I was wondering if I could plug an OTG cable into the female on something like:
(sorry if direct product links aren't allowed)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Slimport-HD...=UTF8&qid=1378228626&sr=8-2&keywords=slimport
Acuum2 said:
Thanks,
I was wondering if I could plug an OTG cable into the female on something like:
(sorry if direct product links aren't allowed)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Slimport-HD...=UTF8&qid=1378228626&sr=8-2&keywords=slimport
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I have attempts to connect an OTG cable to the female port on my Slimport without any luck. The Slimport worked well otherwise.
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vcallas said:
I have attempts to connect an OTG cable to the female port on my Slimport without any luck. The Slimport worked well otherwise.
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Thank you for the test results.
shame... oh well!
T.
vcallas said:
I have attempts to connect an OTG cable to the female port on my Slimport without any luck. The Slimport worked well otherwise.
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Yeah, the microUSB port on the Slimport is for power only, the data pins aren't even wired up.
Suppose I connect Nexus 7 to a monitor through SlimPort. This monitor has USB ports built in. If I connect a keyboard or mouse to this USB port, will it work with the tablet?
unni_kmr said:
Suppose I connect Nexus 7 to a monitor through SlimPort. This monitor has USB ports built in. If I connect a keyboard or mouse to this USB port, will it work with the tablet?
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No - this wont work.
As stated above the data pins on the slimport are not connected so the USB can't be used for anything other than power.
ie. Tablet can't do anything else over usb when the slimport is in use.
Bluetooth keyboard + mouse could work for you though
Acuum2 said:
No - this wont work.
As stated above the data pins on the slimport are not connected so the USB can't be used for anything other than power.
ie. Tablet can't do anything else over usb when the slimport is in use.
Bluetooth keyboard + mouse could work for you though
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Thanks. My intention was to use the tablet as a PC alternative for my parents. I have dropped the idea. Now I am thinking about getting one of those Android mini PCs instead (thread here).
The issue is the limited number of pins on the Micro USB port are multi-purpose.
A Micro USB port has 5 pins, one is power and another is ground, that leaves 3 for data. These 3 "flip" (for want of a better word) between USB mode and Slimport mode, So it can only do one or the other at any time.
So the lack of data pins on the slimport pass-through port (as stated above) is not the issue. They didn't bother wiring them up because they share a couple of pins in common and so wouldn't work anyway.
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Just to clarify a slimport Micro USB connector has 5 pins. Samsung on the other hand are now using MHL 3.0 and they are pushing on with an 11 pin connectors that open up all sorts of options such as simultaneous data connections and even multiple displays! nice!
normskilight said:
A Micro USB port has 5 pins, one is power and another is ground, that leaves 3 for data. These 3 "flip" (for want of a better word) between USB mode and Slimport mode, So it can only do one or the other at any time.
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Exactly. SlimPort™ Technology White Paper has a nice explanation along with the good picture showing SlimPort architeture (see page 4)