Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
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Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
Cheers
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Unfortunately I don't believe its possible. I wish though...
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cmac86 said:
Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
Cheers
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Yeah! Is it possible?
I ordered all components yesterday to test this exact thing. I will report back with my findings. I ordered the mhl adapter, HDMI cable, and the otg cable. I already have a micro SD reader that's extremely small. Total cost was $30 on amazon.... I also ordered a wii sensor bar that was around 6 bis. I'm also going to attempt to integrate the otg cable in a case. Pics will follow
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I think that isn't possible. Both MHL and USB OTG uses the same microusb port, but behind that there are different circuits. Depending on wich connector you plug in the hardware will know if you are connecting an usb or a HDMI.
More, the microusb on MHL connector is only for ac supply.
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Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
Cheers
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From what ive read, it is not possible. Youre disabling usb to get hdmi function through 4 wires. And that function needs power.
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Since I'll be using them either way. It doesn't hurt to try.
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MHL and OTG
@justin94, please report back if you get it working. Actually, if you can get OTG to work at all with or without MHL let us know. I've gotten the MHL to work. But I need to connect some USB devices up, and from what I've read, the current Nexus stock firmware doesn't support OTG/Host.
Also, what OTG cable did you order? I've heard there are ones that don't work?
waiting for an answer.
Just got confirmation of shipment the mhl adapter and HDMI cable. No estimated deliver date as of yet. Have patience people.
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Just got confirmation of shipment the mhl adapter and HDMI cable. No estimated deliver date as of yet. Have patience people.
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NO NAO~! lol. j/k
MHL will only charge the phone via USB. You can't use USB data. Bluetooth is your only option for external hardware input (controllers, etc... but not thumb drives)
I don't want to rain on your parade, but I said it would charge your phone at the same time, but it's limited to 500ma. Nexus reports as USB charging, not AC charging. So if you intend to watch a long movie and game real hard via emulation and bluetooth, your phone will run out of battery.
Another poor design decision. They should have just put a HDMI port separately. MHL fail.
The only saving grace will be using the pogo pins to charge the phone via AC so you can get 1A charging while using MHL.
MHL fail.
Update!!!
Just received the mhl adapter and HDMI cable. Its plug and play, however, it does require power..... so my hopes of getting this to work are almost over..... except that I fairly good with electronics. So I'm going to do some splicing and dicing and see what works.
Don't worry, if it works I will post a full tutorial
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Update bump.
Just got the otg cable. Tested and works with stick mount. Later on tonight I will try to get them working simultaneously
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anxious to know how it works out. I've got the MHL and HDMI. It works but when I pulled the usb power the MHL went lights out so it may only be for power source. but you never know.
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anxious to know how it works out. I've got the MHL and HDMI. It works but when I pulled the usb power the MHL went lights out so it may only be for power source. but you never know.
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Unfortunately from what I understand that's all its for.
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Any news yet?
Sorry everyone. Due to some family issues I have really had time to sit down with array of electronics to try and make this work. Hopefully I can get to it before this weekend
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Justin94,
How do you plan to plug the MHL/HDMI adapter and USB OTG into the the GNex since it has one usb port. This has baffled my mind.
Some type of splitter configuration.
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Now for all you Nitro HD users who didn't know that it is possible to stream video through the Micro USB port, well yes you can That port is actually a MHL port (Mobile High-def Link), which combines both Micro USB and HDMI features together, and all you need is a MHL adapter to connect your phone to your HDTV and stream movies while having your phone charged.
Now my question goes to those who know about these things. Any idea which MHL adapter is compatible with this phone, or can we use any adapter from any maker? And also, has anybody tried using the MHL capability on this phone?
Well, one would think it wouldn't be proprietary based on the fact that all MHL enabled phones use this as a standard now. I have used a MHL cable from an HTC Raider on a Galaxy S II and it worked just fine.
Does anyone else hear a slight grinding/grainy noise when you plug in the Micro USB? It always makes me feel like I'm breaking it.
any mhl adapter should work.
i use the mhl adapter from samsung infuse and it works! but remember to plug in power for it to works.
netnerd said:
any mhl adapter should work.
i use the mhl adapter from samsung infuse and it works! but remember to plug in power for it to works.
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plug in power? what do you mean? I thought the whole idea behind mhl is that your phone will get charged via hdmi while streaming through it.
aquariuz23 said:
plug in power? what do you mean? I thought the whole idea behind mhl is that your phone will get charged via hdmi while streaming through it.
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I think if the tv supports mhl mode then you don't need to plug in power.
If tv just has hdmi port then you need to plug in power.
The mhl adapter has microusb port for power input.
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I think if the tv supports mhl mode then you don't need to plug in power.
If tv just has hdmi port then you need to plug in power.
The mhl adapter has microusb port for power input.
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hmmm...interesting. thnx for the heads up
Picked one up myself... streamed a 720p video beautifully.
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i just tested the mhl adapter (from samsung infuse) and stream porno on 42" hdtv, i cant believe i can see so much details clearly! haha
netnerd said:
i just tested the mhl adapter (from samsung infuse) and stream porno on 42" hdtv, i cant believe i can see so much details clearly! haha
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Wow really. LOL. That great.
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akfritz said:
Picked one up myself... streamed a 720p video beautifully.
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Which one and where?
Mine should be arriving on Thursday - just grabbed one of the many off amazon...
So my bro got me an Accell MHL adapter for Christmas and I'm finding it doesn't work with my phone. It doesn't even provide a charge. I'm thinking its physical dimensions are such that the connector into the phone doesn't go in far enough (kinda LG's fault for making the port recessed, kinda their fault for making the connector so damn fat). So, if you guys find one that works for cheap, do you think you could hit us with a link?
TL/DR, Accell's doesn't work, please post ones that do
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So my bro got me an Accell MHL adapter for Christmas and I'm finding it doesn't work with my phone. It doesn't even provide a charge. I'm thinking its physical dimensions are such that the connector into the phone doesn't go in far enough (kinda LG's fault for making the port recessed, kinda their fault for making the connector so damn fat). So, if you guys find one that works for cheap, do you think you could hit us with a link?
TL/DR, Accell's doesn't work, please post ones that do
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it needs power for mhl to works. did you try to reboot the phone after you plug in mhl and power input for mhl? i tried on samsung infuse mhl adapter and it works!
Yeah, I provided power and performed every possible sequence of hooking it all up that I could think of and also rebooted several times. I really think it's the form factor of the Accell connector combined with our slightly recessed port that causes it to not go in far enough. I just need someone to give me a suggestion of a brand to buy that they know firsthand works well with our P930.
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See item B0068UML3A at Amazon.com. I received mine today and it works like a charm--and it costs only $8.99.
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See item B0068UML3A at Amazon.com. I received mine today and it works like a charm--and it costs only $8.99.
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It looks like that item is no longer available. I'm ordering B005NTHXYY, it's $9.19 and Prime eligible.
I can confirm that the MHL adapter that came packaged with the Samsung Infuse works great with the Nitro.
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I wonder if my mhl for gs2 can work with nitro hd
What if tv doesnt support mhl but has hdmi...i can still use it right? But my phone will be discharging the whole time...
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I bought the Samsung MHL adapter through Amazon - Samsung MHL Adapter and I must say this has been of the best inexpensive purchases you buy for your Galaxy Nexus. I decided to make a quick video to show you how great it works, please enjoy!
CLICK HERE TO WATCH VIDEO
The MHL adapter is using full hdmi cable or mini hdmi ?
thanks for the heads up. I may have to get one of these.
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Thanks for the video, it is really cool.
When I had my G2x with micro HDMI out, I bought all kines of cables to plug it into the TV from the comfort of my bed, and I really only used once or twice.
Maybe in the future I'll buy it but I think it will end up in my cable's cabinet.
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The MHL adapter is using full hdmi cable or mini hdmi ?
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Full HDMI
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gogol said:
The MHL adapter is using full hdmi cable or mini hdmi ?
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It uses full HDMI
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Maybe in the future I'll buy it but I think it will end up in my cable's cabinet.
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I think people who travel or game more will use it. I hook my phone up to hotel rooms to watch Netflix and my dish network programming/dvr. Gamers may want a bigger screen.
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How does this play out with USB host mode in Android?
Do I need another adapter for host mode? Or can I use this one while I also have HDMI out?
http://www.amazon.com/Menotek-Adapt...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1325341220&sr=1-1
This one seems to be "certified" for the Galaxy Nexus and also has a charging port to use while doing HDMI output. Does the Samsung adapter come with this?
I'm most certainly interesred but I want more details before shelling out money, even if it's small money
Edit: Looked at the video and I see the USB port there. Still though, how does this play wtih USB host? Do I even need an adapter for that?
Using the HDMI adapter and playing games with a controller can only be done with a bluetooth controller? Is there any way I can use HDMI and a USB PS3/360 controller?
(using the PS3 wireless is not a option for me i cannot get the app and phone to work together)
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How does this play out with USB host mode in Android?
Do I need another adapter for host mode? Or can I use this one while I also have HDMI out?
http://www.amazon.com/Menotek-Adapt...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1325341220&sr=1-1
This one seems to be "certified" for the Galaxy Nexus and also has a charging port to use while doing HDMI output. Does the Samsung adapter come with this?
I'm most certainly interesred but I want more details before shelling out money, even if it's small money
Edit: Looked at the video and I see the USB port there. Still though, how does this play wtih USB host? Do I even need an adapter for that?
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to ppl with questions, i got the official samsung gs2 mhl adapter. its 11$.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230721222527?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
works wonders. i am 4.0.2 stock.
it uses full hdmi. 1$ on ebay.
it has a charging port, but it shows plugged in as usb charger even when plugged into the wall. it only draws enough power to power keep the charge constant, that is your battery does not go down, nor does it go up. and no, you cannot connect usb host when watching in mhl mode. would have been cool, but doesnt work.
One more thing, apparently THE PHONE HAS TO BE PLUGGED IN FOR THE MHL ADAPTER TO WORK. So, unless you plug in the charger, the mhl adater wont give output.
i hope i answered all questions.
OMG I need me on of these. It's not a Amazon prime item so that mean I have to pay for shipping lol.
nice!
Which program you using for the emulators and to sync to wi mote
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to ppl with questions, i got the official samsung gs2 mhl adapter. its 11$.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230721222527?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
works wonders. i am 4.0.2 stock.
it uses full hdmi. 1$ on ebay.
it has a charging port, but it shows plugged in as usb charger even when plugged into the wall. it only draws enough power to power keep the charge constant, that is your battery does not go down, nor does it go up. and no, you cannot connect usb host when watching in mhl mode. would have been cool, but doesnt work.
One more thing, apparently THE PHONE HAS TO BE PLUGGED IN FOR THE MHL ADAPTER TO WORK. So, unless you plug in the charger, the mhl adater wont give output.
i hope i answered all questions.
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Wow. So emulator+wifi+bluetooth+mhl= dead phone. 500ma is not enough to keep the GN floating.
Seems like a huge oversight on Google's part or perhaps it's just a MHL limitation. I know data does not work, which is why people have to use BT. But 500ma, what a joke.
Can anyone else confirm this?
Awesome video and post, thanks!!
Does the MHL to HDMI work with Android Movies? I know on my stock Transformer TF101 HDMI out is blocked in Movies. ...worked fine for Netflix and others though.
As far as battery is concerned. Would it be possible to program the screen to turn off when viewing in HDMI and still view it on the TV? seems like this would cut battery consumption dramatically. If not you could set the screen brightness to as low as possible.
Thanks man! Gonna buy this ASAP
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As far as battery is concerned. Would it be possible to program the screen to turn off when viewing in HDMI and still view it on the TV? seems like this would cut battery consumption dramatically. If not you could set the screen brightness to as low as possible.
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Battery drain seems to be corroborated here too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20128751&postcount=36
What a downer.
Great minds think alike though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20156851&postcount=46
So it looks like the only option is to use some sort of dual charging situation where one charges the MHL adapter and the other charges the phone via pogo.
Perhaps the native HDMI doc allows AC charging? I guess we will have to wait and see.
Sorry if this was already posted but I just got the Samsung EPL-FU10BEBSTD (whoever comes up with these names should be shot) MHL 5 to 11 pin adapter.
I tested it on three different generic MHL adapters and it works perfectly. In other words, if you have an existing adapter and don't need USB OTG along with it, save your money and get this thing instead. I bought mine from CCM accessories on Amazon and received it in 2 days for $9.99.
Link here: http://www.amazon.com/Original-Sams...303435&sr=8-2&keywords=samsung+galaxy+s3+hdtv
Does everything you'd expect from an MHL adapter, mirror display, Netflix etc...
I'm assuming this is the same thing despite the model number difference?
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EPL-FU10BEGSTA
Got a question, does this adapter has a hook up for charging cable? If yes does it work with the charger plugged either into this or the genetic mhl cable that you hook to the adapter?
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rakeshchn said:
Got a question, does this adapter has a hook up for charging cable? If yes does it work with the charger plugged either into this or the genetic mhl cable that you hook to the adapter?
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No it is just MicroUSB in and MicroUSB out - the power will come from your MHL adapter.
screwyluie said:
I'm assuming this is the same thing despite the model number difference?
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EPL-FU10BEGSTA
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Looks exactly the same, but I'm reading the model number off my Samsung package
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No it is just MicroUSB in and MicroUSB out - the power will come from your MHL adapter.
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Thanks, so does this setup charge the phone while playing video on tv?
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rakeshchn said:
Thanks, so does this setup charge the phone while playing video on tv?
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Yes - and MHL adapters don't even work when not powered. In my case, my S3 setup is:
HDMI Cable > MHL Adapter + MicroUSB charger > Samsung 5 to 11 pin adpater > S3.
Thanks for checking. My MHL cable and adapter shipped out today. Can't wait to get them
Here's the official samsung video showing it in action uploaded since the 12th...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR7xIO_zAIU
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Hopefully somebody who has htis can shed some light on it.
If you're using MHL hdmi out, the unused micro USB port on the adapter needs to be fed power, correct?
So does that mean that if you're outputting via HDMI that you cannot utilize the USB OTG? Or will you have to use a powered hub to simultaneously drive the HDMI output and the USB OTG peripherals?
I don't think it will work like that. I tried plugging my OTG cable with a powered usb hub into the micro USB port on my MHL adapter. Even without an HDMI cable connected my phone would not detect my wireless mouse and keyboard.
Are you using the official mhl adapter?
erikikaz said:
Are you using the official mhl adapter?
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I'm using the official samsung S2 adapter with the samsung adapter tip
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I'm using the official samsung S2 adapter with the samsung adapter tip
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Weird, the whole point of Samsung going with the 11 pin was to enable USB OTG. Maybe it doesn't work with the adapter?
I guess I'll find out, the official adapter is in the mail, should be here Thurs.
Of course it wouldn't work with the adapter and an older cable. The adapter is only rearranging a 5pin power cable and hdmi to match the 11pin in the phone. 6 pins in the phone are still not used.
If I remember ill try it with the official S3 adapter later.
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i also really want to know if the samsung 11 pin (not adapter) will work with a powered USB hub and OTG ..
I think I saw somewhere that the adapter for the s2 and s3 are different. Don't know much just wanted to throw my 2 cents in
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I tried this it worked.
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I was wondering if this would work so I won't have to buy a bluetooth keyboard/mouse and just use a USB combo with a powered hub instead:
Official MHL adapter -> hdmi to monitor
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>OTG cable> Powered USB hub> USB keyboard/mouse.
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If you're interested in picking one of these up, check out my review here:
http://omgdroid.com/accessory-revie...dmi-adapter-brings-butter-to-your-television/
Hope it helps your decision.
thanks
Good review go to get free stuff from Sammy. Lol
Glad you enjoyed it!
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I used MHL adapter with my SGS2 and there was some 0.5s lag between phone and TV so most of the fast and action games was unplayable! even when the game was smooth as hell...is lag present with SGS3 and MHL adapter? THX
Can it used like otg cable for the usb port?
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Thanks for the review.
Good job.
how much was it?
Nice, thanks
No it can't.
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I have a sony 32" lcd tv. I was wondering if it would work with it? My allowable resolutions are 720p and 1080i.
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I am selling mine, it just doesn't work good with tv's.
On my Panasonic and my Sharp lcd tv it doesn't gives full screen, the edges are cut and that sucks.
Doesn't matter what Screen settings I try, no 100% of the S3 is displayed.
Auto scale, normally is the best setting, but not working out for this adapter.
For gaming it isn't such a big deal, but when your notification bar is only half visible and the apps been cut on the aidea and bottom, that is irritating.
I looked for reviews on Youtube and you will see many people with this problem, also many where it works just fine but the problem is in the adapter or the S3 which isn't working as it should do.
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I have a sony 32" lcd tv. I was wondering if it would work with it? My allowable resolutions are 720p and 1080i.
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If you have a spare hdmi port then it will work.
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By any chance have you tried this with a USB hub / OTG cable to see if you could hook up a drive AND the MHL adapter?
Thanks!
Two question:
Are there any settings that i have to do first if i wanna connect the phone with my tv?
Can i see immediatly the screen at the boot time of the phone? And see it also in recovery or download mode?
thanks
When you plug in the adapter and connect it with the hdmi cable you will directly see the it, there are not settings for the mhl cable on the S3
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By any chance have you tried this with a USB hub / OTG cable to see if you could hook up a drive AND the MHL adapter?
Thanks!
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Doesn't work, multiple times been asked before.
Only charge port, not as usb...
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By any chance have you tried this with a USB hub / OTG cable to see if you could hook up a drive AND the MHL adapter?
Thanks!
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This has been tried and it doesn't work.
Latest idea is hooking it up to an MHL enabled tv(meaning power coming this way) and use the USB port on the adapter for otg.
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Well that ain't gonna work, the usb has only power as far as I know...
So you can try that, but the MHL adapter is not designed to use it like that. It needs the power via the usb connector.
But maybe, maybe you can get power via tv...
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Well that ain't gonna work, the usb has only power as far as I know...
So you can try that, but the MHL adapter is not designed to use it like that. It needs the power via the usb connector.
But maybe, maybe you can get power via tv...
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Yeah, newer TVs are designed to charge via MHL, though not sure if the official Samsung adapter supports it.
Jeurum_92 said:
Well that ain't gonna work, the usb has only power as far as I know...
So you can try that, but the MHL adapter is not designed to use it like that. It needs the power via the usb connector.
But maybe, maybe you can get power via tv...
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If you have an MHL enabled tv, the power comes from the tv so the USB on the adapter doesn't need to be used for power, hence I said you could try to connect and otg cable there instead.
It you have an MHL enabled tv then you don't need an adapter but just a cable like this instead
http://goo.gl/qTB1S
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I know, but I don't think the charge port will work as otg....
As far as I know it is only for charge, and doesn't have the rest of the usb working.
I even doubt if when it has a full functional usb port, MHL allows to use MHL both with usb on the same time...
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