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Which Recovery do YOU prefer?
I have a strong belief most people are going to say Amon Ra, but I just wonder, and I DO have a point to this.
Amon Ra
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RA all the way.
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I'm waiting to see this point. But if the 'point' of this is going to be amon_ra is better because more people like it, you're gona need more justification than that.
amon. i find it a lot cleaner than clockwork. and theres alot less roaming through the options
Amon... but that is all I have used since 1st week rooted
Kings GB Destroyed EVO
Now ill have to disagree with everyone on this one...I like CWM better for one reason...the advanced restore feature...i need it with the roms I switch so I can restore apps quicker than with mybackup or TB
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I say Amen to all this Ra Ra.
amon all the way
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...and I DO have a point to this.
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Which is?
I use Ra btw.
ra for sure, ive been using it since day one. i never use cwm, i have a few times but don't like it.
I used AmonRA on my MyTouch 3G back in the day and liked it. When I first rooted it I used Clockwork for the ease of updating through Rom Manager app, but as I learned my way around rooting and flashing and Android for that matter I started using AmonRA and doing everything manually. I wish I would have never used Clockwork on my EVO, but when I first rooted it instead of doing it the long way I used Unrevoked3. I made a backup as soon as it was done and lost my RSA keys after running Clockwork for about a week and having to Nandroid restore. Been using AmonRA ever since. I am sure that Clockwork has fixed the Wimax issue, but I still prefer AmonRA because now I am used to it. I also like Amon options better and I know it is wiping my davlik cache when I tell it to.
My point is that I never used CWM and I want to know what it has and does that AR doesn't....
That's your point?
Amon, here, for whatever that's worth .... which, apparently, isn't much.
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That's your point?
Amon, here, for whatever that's worth .... which, apparently, isn't much.
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That's part of it....
Compatibility with Rom Manager is probably the biggest draw for Clockwork. Some people use RM religiously. I've never used it, because it reminds me of some bad experiences I've had flashing a PC BIOS with a Windows app. I'm sure it works fine, but I'm old fashioned, if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. Also, AR was the first to backup RSA keys. I've never lost mine but I've never looked back.
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Amon ra by far
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RA Baby
thebeast614 said:
Now ill have to disagree with everyone on this one...I like CWM better for one reason...the advanced restore feature...i need it with the roms I switch so I can restore apps quicker than with mybackup or TB
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Restoring apps is just a part of flashing, this isn't a great selling point. I've had problems with CWM not working with certain rom's and all around RA is just cleaner and to the point. To each their own I guess but you are the minority here my friend.
Definitely RA!
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Ok, so I have been using cwm since my android on metro. Never an issue, always smooth. Now everyone switching to amon ra. Why? And why are some devs making it so you need amon ra to install their roms? Give me some insight people..................
28 VIEWS IN 10 MINUTES?
I KNOW SOMEONE HAS AN ANSWER..........
Ok, yes, Amon is more reliable on everything. Why? Idk, but it is.
Yes, some Devs ROMs have to have Amon to install correctly. Why? Idk, dont care. If the Devs say it is better, install it and enjoy.
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The answer is up at the top where it says Search This Forum. This question has been asked and answered a million times on here.
CWM is great; on other phones. On the EVO, not so good. Doesn't wipe properly, is know to have problems restoring back-ups. Those are just the surface issues.
Plain and simple. If you have an evo, you use amon. Its like rule #1 haha. All of the CWM recovery versions I have used either A.didn't wipe correctly or B. Couldn't flash what I needed because it only supports edify scripting in zips and doesn't support amend (older but still kinda popular)
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Still rocking twrp v1.1.1 oh yeah lmao
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The answer is up at the top where it says Search This Forum. This question has been asked and answered a million times on here.
CWM is great; on other phones. On the EVO, not so good. Doesn't wipe properly, is know to have problems restoring back-ups. Those are just the surface issues.
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Now Now honey, is that anyway to talk to a lady?
I have been doing this since December 2011. And have been rooting, flashing, kernals, you name it... So please, tone it down. I DID search this forum, google, facebook, and every other search engine on the web. NO ONE WOULD GIVE ME A STRAIGHT ANSWER.
SO.....Thank you for your pleasent answer.
Umm, I didn't think I was being overly stern in my answer.
Not an issue....
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AmonRA/Clockwork Mod
Since it almost seem like you're interested in having a little bit of both worlds; I guess you can try this out and see how it works out for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339654
moreno4xl said:
Since it almost seem like you're interested in having a little bit of both worlds; I guess you can try this out and see how it works out for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339654
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I'm using that and it works perfectly for me.
NAND backups with no problems
NAND restore with no problems
WIPE for new flash with no problems
I would recommend it over RA 2.3 for the simple fact that you can use the BACK button to actually go back a step
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I also recommend Amon ra 3.11 it just works on the EVO perfectly been using it since 1st day I rooted (2yrs) and it just works amazingly
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Not an issue....
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Then why did you make it one?
Sounds like someone's got beef
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Then why did you make it one?
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Don't be sensitive. I was frustrated & if i took of out on you, than i apologize.
I'm on amon RA now. No issues.
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+1 for clockworkmod recovery. Never had an issue with it.
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Funny cause i was thinkin bout this very issue. I search....and this is the thread that i come up with.
One thing tho. I've always been on CWM. But im thinking of flashing AM just for the hell of it. Am i doomed to losing all of my CWM backups? Or can AM restore a CWM backup?? <<--(Before you ask, I searched this question and got conflicting answers.)
Gimme feedback
Phillysphinest1 said:
Funny cause i was thinkin bout this very issue. I search....and this is the thread that i come up with.
One thing tho. I've always been on CWM. But im thinking of flashing AM just for the hell of it. Am i doomed to losing all of my CWM backups? Or can AM restore a CWM backup?? <<--(Before you ask, I searched this question and got conflicting answers.)
Gimme feedback
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With amon ra style recovery you can restore CWM backups
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^^See that was easy. Thanks bro...
Hey Philly, I just want to thank you for your wipe zip, it is the only wipe that I use before any ROM change. It ROCKS!!!!
Rooted...no issue there.
Installed ROM Manger.
Installed Clockwork Recovery from Rom Manager as I wanted to install a new rom.
Now when I boot, no matter what combination I hold down, it goes to the Android System Recovery screen and in the background is the white triangle, yellow exclamation point and little android guy.
I can move between the three ofered choices but pressing the power button (I assume this is the OK button) does nothing.
Thoughts / help?
Does your computer recognize it? If it does you should try adb download and see if you can get into download mode
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Have you even tried pressing any of the soft keys, home button?
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Just realized I posted the question in the wrong forum as well.
Computer makes a noise as though it knows it's connected, yet it doesn't show up and odin and kies don't find it either.
I think home button is select and power button is back, but I haven't used stock in a long time, so might be remembering incorrectly.
I suggest you don't use Rom Manager to install recovery. It doesn't work properly for this phone and could lead to non-recoverable problems.
Read this thread and you'll have references to everything you need to undo and start from scratch:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
THANKS!
What a doof........hit the home button and all is fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jfenton57 said:
What a doof........hit the home button and all is fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And leave stupid ROM manager alone it's crap on Samsung
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I don't know for the life of me why people still use Rom manager to install roms.
I think they are probably HTC converts because nothing here is asking them to use ROM manager.
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I don't know for the life of me why people still use Rom manager to install roms.
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Lazy lazy and most don't know how to do it correctly....
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I think they are probably HTC converts because nothing here is asking them to use ROM manager.
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I came over from an Evo and believe me everything pointed to not use Rom Manager when I had my phone as well. I agree that if people took the time to read properly they would see that Rom Manager and a few other crazy things they do are not suggested. But they make sure to have time to post and read their threads when they screw up. Honestly with all the brick laying and blue light specials up in herrre. Do you really need to post your problem and how do you fix it...
His problem is one of 100 exactly the same in here and instead of searching and helping himself he did the same lazy thing that got him stuck in the first place. Then too lazy to find out how to work CWM. Quite sure he will be back again if he keeps up this route... @OP not trying to be an ass but just hate to see people who don't want to help themselves.
Sorry to hear that you've bricked OP. Hope you can get a replacement and get back into owning your phone.
Here's what I've done to avoid bricking since I am also somewhat new to the E4GT...
Read the forums on XDA.
Observed what others are doing that worked.
Didn't flash anything you are unsure of.
Became familiar with ODIN.
Stayed away from ROM manager.
Flashed using el29 rogue recovery only. (I've been successful with this so far, others say to use el26.)
Wipd cache/dalvik-cache/data/system.
Purchased mobile ODIN, $5 is better than the deductible to get a replacement.
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I bricked but it was a bad recovery well not bad just messy team trolls recovery bricked me 2 weeks ago wiping Cache . But as always when u post questions like this here ur gonna hear it lol but searching helps.
Now if its hard bricked ud not even get to recovery at all just a blue light and a black screen that if is ur case unplug it cause it runs the battery super hot .
If not in that position than try power and volume down if it does not bring u to download mode to Odin another recovery if that don't work idk
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sfhub said:
I think they are probably HTC converts because nothing here is asking them to use ROM manager.
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The OG Epic uses ROM Manager just fine.
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azyouthinkeyeiz said:
The OG Epic uses ROM Manager just fine.
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That took a long time and a ton of porting. Pretty recent. Went through Eclair and Froyo without support.
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That took a long time and a ton of porting. Pretty recent. Went through Eclair and Froyo without support.
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Porting was needed for CWM recovery. Not ROM Manager. Support for ROM Manager comes from device devs, not koush. In the form of uploading vetted software, that doesn't corrupt. It is a universal starting point, not a fully functional product.
But regardless, I wasn't even talking about it's support. I was saying people other than ones with HTC devices can get into the habit of using ROM Manager.
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Porting was needed for CWM recovery. Not ROM Manager. Support for ROM Manager comes from device devs, not koush. In the form of uploading vetted software, that doesn't corrupt. It is a universal starting point, not a fully functional product.
But regardless, I wasn't even talking about it's support. I was saying people other than ones with HTC devices can get into the habit of using ROM Manager.
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I never used it even when there was support. Lol
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Doesn't matter the recovery is in the kernel and rom manager will not work on this phone ....there is no separate recovery partition and ROM manager won't flash the recovery right on here since it's part of the kernel partition.koush doesn't really care he made it to temporarily flash a recovery like touch that might work if not for ics kernels... The thing is it doesn't work people should not rely on it like a crutch
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I've always used cwm on my devices. Currently using 5.5.0.2 non touch. Backups seem really slow to me. GSM gnex.
I was a long time CWM user, but tried out TWRP on the GNex and I like it MUCH better! Try it out and see for yourself.
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I was a long time CWM user, but tried out TWRP on the GNex and I like it MUCH better! Try it out and see for yourself.
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+1
For me, Clockworkmod feels more stable
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Once you flash twrp, there's no going back to CWM!
via GNex!
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Once you flash twrp, there's no going back to CWM!
via GNex!
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i used to be an avid CWM user as well, but since i moved to TWRP on my TF201, TWRP has been the only recovery for me, Its absolutely amazing on the GNex
I've always liked CWM and have no intentions of moving to TWRP. CWM works really well, it's solid, reliable, and fast. There is no reason for me to switch.
I had a terrible experience with TWRP in it's early stages. Bent back to CWM and never tried again.
I was actually a twrp user for awhile. I used it on an HTC one s as well as my current gnex. I personally found cwm to be more stable in the the end because I had a few lockups with twtp that just soured my experience with it.
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Nucleotide said:
I've always liked CWM and have no intentions of moving to TWRP. CWM works really well, it's solid, reliable, and fast. There is no reason for me to switch.
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+1 I tried TWRP on another phone because it was included with the ROM I flashed, didn't like it. I could get used to it I'm sure, but I see no benefits over CWM, so I'll stay with what I'm used to that just works.
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I have been using CWM for as long as I can remember. Currently on the newest touch version and have had no issues at all. It works.. so, for me, there is no reason to switch.
+1 cwm been using for long time. If it isn't broke don't fix it!
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I have used cwm since my og droid days. However, on my gnex I switched to twrp. Cwm always gives me issues with the volume buttons on it. I would press the volume down button, and it would move the cursor 3 or 4 spots, making it very difficult to get on the correct option, especially find the one yes in the bunch of no options.
It also seemed to sometimes lock the power button, so when I pressed it to accept the reboot option, it would just turn the screen of and on.
Touch screen buttons are much easier to deal with on a touch screen device than using volume and power buttons.
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95Z28 said:
+1 I tried TWRP on another phone because it was included with the ROM I flashed, didn't like it. I could get used to it I'm sure, but I see no benefits over CWM, so I'll stay with what I'm used to that just works.
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I used CWM and 4ext but I sem to prefer TWRP
CWM / old school!
I have cwm 5.8.0.2 non touch and it's so slow with backup/restore. 2 x slower than other phones I used! Can someone confirm twrp is faster? Any other suggestion.
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KeylanHalfdan said:
I have used cwm since my og droid days. However, on my gnex I switched to twrp. Cwm always gives me issues with the volume buttons on it. I would press the volume down button, and it would move the cursor 3 or 4 spots, making it very difficult to get on the correct option, especially find the one yes in the bunch of no options.
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This issue is not longer an issue with CWM, starting with version 6.
I use CWM 6.0.1.0 (not the touch version), it it works very well, so I see no reason to switch to TWRP.
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jss2 said:
This issue is not longer an issue with CWM, starting with version 6.
I use CWM 6.0.1.0 (not the touch version), it it works very well, so I see no reason to switch to TWRP.
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Good to know, thanks!
The main reason I prefer twrp over cwm is the ability to name back ups to something other than a standard date code. My advice would be to try it for a couple of days, and see what you think, personally. We can all tout one, or the other. But, like everything else in android, it's a matter of preference.
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Twrp blows cwm out of the water - period. Even koush admitted cwm was past it's time which is why he started to rebuild it. Until something major changes w/ cwm, twrp and goo are where it's at right now...
I recently used rumrunner to gain s-off and root and I flashed CWM recovery. I have read different posts stating CWM is flaky on the One, and I've also read posts saying TWRP is flaky. Can anyone clear this up?
I've used TWRP on almost every device I've had and have never had an issue with it. I'm currently using TWRP with no issues.
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I used TWRP and had no problems. I'm a noob at all this and I couldn't have asked for it to have been easier.
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irie27 said:
I recently used rumrunner to gain s-off and root and I flashed CWM recovery. I have read different posts stating CWM is flaky on the One, and I've also read posts saying TWRP is flaky. Can anyone clear this up?
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Cwm is flaky period not just on the one. Twrp has been the only real choice for years.
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I have had nothing but good luck with CWM myself.
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TWRP and Story time
I'm currently using TWRP with no issues, and never had any, starting way back on the OG Evo.
I do remember installing clockwork on the old school T-Mobile G1 (Dream) and I didn't have any issues. Koush spearheaded the recovery project for us, he will always have that title of being the 'first' with his clockworkmod's. (a tip of the hat to Koush)
Reminds me a little of this story I learned a while back. I heard it was true too...
The importance of a beginning in anything isn't always about that first product or creation in the project. The importance is whether the original design and goal is met at the end and/or in the end product. I.E. Adam.
He was the first to be created of humanity but the original purpose for his creation did not meet all of the requirements of his Creator. Instead of scrapping the original product and starting anew, there was a plan to restore and rectify on the original project, or as i like to call it, the original "storyline".
The similarity of this story to the OP takes a turn here. Where as Koush didn't fully rectify his original product (Clockworkmod) and make a better one, the Creator of humanity did indeed follow up on His promise to begin in the restoration of the original design of His story: the "Second Adam".
One was born from the dust of the earth (ie 'first' Adam; the other birthed from the Spirit of God in Heaven ('Second' Adam).
The first Adam was born perfect but ultimately failed in its original design and purpose. But alas, One had come, the Second Adam, who did not fall or fail, but came, conquered ,and was victorious in all that man was suppose to represent and so so much more...
I use cwm just because I like it better, I've had no issues so far with it. Once 4ext is available I'll be using that, best I've used to date.
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Truthfully I was CWM all day every phone no matter what.
I wouldn't even give TWRP a chance, once I did though, I never looked back, haven't been back on CWM since either.
I do have a gripe with a menu set up. Nothing major and enough for me to change. I highly suggest TWRP.
I like TWRP more. Better UI, navigation and features. That said, I use CWM. After experiencing bugs and instability with TWRP on the S4, I returned to the recovery that has never failed me, CWM.
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I use TWRP and have no complaints. Never did with CWM either. The winner for me is TWRP though, because I like being able to add multiple zip files to flash at once instead of flashing them one at-a-time with CWM, not a big deal but saves some time.
I would love to see 4ext make a comeback. Best recovery ever.
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I would love to see 4ext make a comeback. Best recovery ever.
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I just actually received an email from max about 4ext for the One. In short - the framework of his recovery needs an overhall to work with the larger resolutions, multi-cores, etc. He has a lot of work ahead of him so if he does try to revamp it for the One it will be some time. But I would switch from TWRP to 4ext in a heartbeat...handsdown the best.
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I just actually received an email from max about 4ext for the One. In short - the framework of his recovery needs an overhall to work with the larger resolutions, multi-cores, etc. He has a lot of work ahead of him so if he does try to revamp it for the One it will be some time. But I would switch from TWRP to 4ext in a heartbeat...handsdown the best.
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Same here. I love twrp, but pales so hard in comparison with 4ext
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Same here. I love twrp, but pales so hard in comparison with 4ext
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+1.
I actually forgot all about this recovery.
The best.
Anyone who uses CWM is a commie... Lol
cstrife999 said:
Anyone who uses CWM is a commie... Lol
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I use CWM
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I use CWM
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Almost anyone in that case lol
I used cwm with the original droid and it worked fine but when newer phones came out I noticed issues like on my dinc and bolt I had backups that was corrupted and I wasn't happy and moved to twrp and never had an issue since. I did move to 4ext with the bolt and that must say was the best over all. I miss 4ext when I got rid of the bolt but hope it comes to the one soon. It was so user friendly.
I've used CWM on my HP tablet, installed on a few other phones. Honestly, I've never given TWRP a chance. Is there anything I'm missing by not using it. I guess I'm just more used to the look and feel of CWM
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