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Few days ago I ordered One X and paid almost 700€ for it (Yea I'm dumb, I know), now I'm reading comments reviews about the phone on places like phonearena and gsm arena etc. They are all praise the phone like "The Best Android Phone period".
But I find those reviews pretty much useless, because obviously they don't say a word about unlocking bootloaders or flashing custom ROMs. Then again SGS2, GNex and possibly SGS3 are consireded as 'developer phones' and they recive a lot of developement from the community.
So did I just waste 300€ (As I could have bought GNex for 400€) for One X, or is it really worth it, development vise. I probably get rid of Sense on the first day so things like that are irrelevant. So I'd like to know are things like S-OFF and CWM aviable and is the phone generally easy to work with.
sorry about my english/ sorry if posted elsewhere
Only the S-OFF is a pickle atm, matter of time that we get it I guess. Silly to ask if HTC Flagship phone will have development Answer is: It will have plenty
Nubzori said:
Only the S-OFF is a pickle atm, matter of time that we get it I guess. Silly to ask if HTC Flagship phone will have development Answer is: It will have plenty
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Hah, Yeah quite silly to ask but just to make sure. Thx =)
Btw, what kind of mobiledata speeds you get with Saunalahti? HSDPA+?
inSaN1Ty_X said:
Hah, Yeah quite silly to ask but just to make sure. Thx =)
Btw, what kind of mobiledata speeds you get with Saunalahti? HSDPA+?
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I got that "mini" with only 0.5mb speed, usually 60kt/s
Haha you're not the only one who made the dumb decision for paying 700€, I paid 649€ for mine but you know... I'm very satisfied with this phone so to hell with that. But back on topic; I go with Nubzori; this device is THE current flagship of HTC. It will undoubtedly have plenty of development.
i paid €480
Sent from the world's most beautiful and fastest phone, the HTC One X. Nuff Said.
As a former Samsung Captivate and a recently stolen Samsung Galaxy S2 owner I am also new to the HTC world and I now feel like a complete noob. I just got my HOX today and I am still waiting for my SIM to be activated (Murphys Law I went to my phone company and their system was down).
I have high expectations for the XDA community on this phone, I remember when I got my Captivate I was frustrated and wanted to throw it in the garbage can after a few days, only to be in love with it months later after a good dose of Cognition and CM7. It got me to upgrade to a SGS2 which til the day it got stolen it was a beast.
So far I have culture shock. I am missing the deep blacks but I think I will be over it in no time. I am worried about photo quality compared to SGS2 but I have shoot a few test shots and I am ok with the photo quality in HOX. I do have to say the camera interface rocks big time!!!!
I remember how disgusted I was the first few weeks with Touchwiz on both my SGS and SGS2 but I am kind of digging Sense 4.0. I hope we can get great ROMS based on it and ROMS that optimize processor power and battery life.
Hi folks,
Please don't flame me or the video producer. I am not trolling or disrespecting any person. I'm simply a confused guy who is due for upgrade & looking for nice people in the best forum to help .
As users do u agree or disagree.
I was about to make up my mind to buy HOX but now im confused again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNhC52WGupI
peace.
drreality said:
Hi folks,
Please don't flame me or the video producer. I am not trolling or disrespecting any person. I'm simply a confused guy who is due for upgrade & looking for nice people in the best forum to help .
As users do u agree or disagree.
I was about to make up my mind to buy HOX but now im confused again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNhC52WGupI
peace.
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NO!
all answers are in here
HTC One X - HTC's New Hero Device! Mega Information Thread
I had a HOx for a few weeks and he has valid points. I showed friends the pictures I took with the HOX and they all said my HTC Incredible S took better pictures than the HOX. It was on latest 1.29 firmware.
And not only the videos are choppy, the whole UI experience is choppy, like 20fps. It is really depressed to see that the hava a full GPU, quad core power and android 4 and STILL aren't able to manage a smooth scrollinge experience (like iphone scrolling). And I know people see this but choose to ignore it, game menus scroll smooth but the actual OS lags...
edit: I had 3 HOXes, the all act the same (hardware issues ignored)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elLrWWFVNOM
hamdir said:
NO!
all answers are in here
HTC One X - HTC's New Hero Device! Mega Information Thread
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But to sum at that huge thread, I'd say it like this;
If you get a fault-free one, it's a fantastic phone.
BUT....your chances of getting a fault-free phone are much less than they should be.
If you want to take part in the HTC One X crap-shoot, please be prepared to pursue HTC with warranty returns until they get it right. Do not unlock bootloader until you are happy with it!
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But to sum at that huge thread, I'd say it like this;
If you get a fault-free one, it's a fantastic phone.
BUT....your chances of getting a fault-free phone are much less than they should be.
If you want to take part in the HTC One X crap-shoot, please be prepared to pursue HTC with warranty returns until they get it right. Do not unlock bootloader until you are happy with it!
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Agreed I got a perfect hox and it such a good phone, it sucks that most come out doa. Take a look at the best picture you've taken you can get extremely good pictures from it, most people just point and shoot which doesn't give any camera justice.
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From my experience with sgs2, we had plenty of complaints about it. but boy the complaints list on this HOX are by far more.
shame on htc to do this
I am not going to give up, i might wait for htc to push new batch before I buy one, may be next month
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Agreed I got a perfect hox and it such a good phone, it sucks that most come out doa. Take a look at the best picture you've taken you can get extremely good pictures from it, most people just point and shoot which doesn't give any camera justice.
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thx for ur reply m8, how is there batch date, or serial sequence to decide the goodness of the device? I want to check before taking it home
I didn't feel like listening to 15 minutes "whining" but compared to the sgs2 I got when it was out the hox actually already is pretty good, battery life is as good as the sgs2 after a year, no screen defects/flickering. I only have one issue though it could be considered quite a big issue and I really hope it's a software issue and it is that the sim card isn't recognised anymore and consequently the hox stops working as a phone until I reenter the pin
all in all, The HOX is bit of hit an miss. am I right ?
No, it's the best (smart)phone I ever had, I love this phone much more even than my Desire.
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all in all, The HOX is bit of hit an miss. am I right ?
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The One X is a fantastic device and you're MUCH more likely to get a working version than a faulty one. The only reason it LOOKS like there are loads of faulty ones is because people who have a fully functional, working device don't start threads complaining about it
There's a poll on here comparing how many people have a working one against those who have a faulty one and guess which came out on top by quite a considerable margin... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585082&highlight=poll
Also, as this is a developers forum, people who have faulty devices are going to stumble across devices to try and find a fix. The problems aren't any way near as widespread as it seems.
Of course, defective devices shouldn't be reaching customers at all, but there's nothing you can do about that I'm afraid
No, its worse then that ... there are people reporting stranger lies
After optimising and disabling some apps that were sucking my battery down (which was my main gripe about this phone) I am more than happy with the HOX. The camera is sweet, games/emu's run great and the screen (even on 25% brightness) pops out. Well worth a purchase.
you can not go wrong with this phone mate. best option is to find a store close by to you which you can go and check the phone for yourself before taking it away with you. explain your fears to the sales assistant and see what they say and if they let you inspect it. but anyways if you get a perfect one you are in business and you could not ask for a better phone. i really hope development picks up more in our forums as this deserves nothing but the best.
s3 is another top handset but i feel there is more to the one x. development for the s3 will be huge. but think about this.
you are using Touchwiz and you are thinking man this is ugly. you want to change it but you get fed up with the launchers as well. you wish you could try sense but you can not as it is hard to port to a sammy phone and second no one has done that. were on the One X not only you have sense but we have now cm9 and you can use Touchwiz launcher as well. so you are getting yourself a beast of a phone mate
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you can not go wrong with this phone mate. best option is to find a store close by to you which you can go and check the phone for yourself before taking it away with you. explain your fears to the sales assistant and see what they say and if they let you inspect it. but anyways if you get a perfect one you are in business and you could not ask for a better phone. i really hope development picks up more in our forums as this deserves nothing but the best.
s3 is another top handset but i feel there is more to the one x. development for the s3 will be huge. but think about this.
you are using Touchwiz and you are thinking man this is ugly. you want to change it but you get fed up with the launchers as well. you wish you could try sense but you can not as it is hard to port to a sammy phone and second no one has done that. were on the One X not only you have sense but we have now cm9 and you can use Touchwiz launcher as well. so you are getting yourself a beast of a phone mate
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Cheers.
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I think some people have good luck and some have bad. I've had mine for more than a week and it's perfect. However, I've accompanied someone to collect a replacement for a faulty unit. Guess what, went back home to charge and the red light is not showing on the replacement unit. I've also heard a lot of complaints ranging from battery not charging, unit not turning on, squeaky phone edges.
If quality control doesn't improve soon, and with all the SG3 hype, One X might find itself sliding down a slippery slope.
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I think some people have good luck and some have bad. I've had mine for more than a week and it's perfect. However, I've accompanied someone to collect a replacement for a faulty unit. Guess what, went back home to charge and the red light is not showing on the replacement unit. I've also heard a lot of complaints ranging from battery not charging, unit not turning on, squeaky phone edges.
If quality control doesn't improve soon, and with all the SG3 hype, One X might find itself sliding down a slippery slope.
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take me as an example I was about to buy one, but now I have to do a masters degree in understanding/avoiding the faults which can come with it
Hi everyone!
I'm a LG O3D user (with great regrets...) and I have the possibility of a (almost) new ONE X, unbranded for €300.
I know that every phone as its issues, and I've read the foruns in search of those issues in the ONE X, but wanted to have a deeper insight on the everyday life with this one.
I really like HTC and having owned a Hero, and knowing the support (at least here in Pt) is good, I'm really thinking of it.
Thank you very much!
I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.
Thanks for the info!
I'm testing it tomorow or the day after.
Whats your thoughts on the battery life?
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I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.
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Mouselik said:
Thanks for the info!
I'm testing it tomorow or the day after.
Whats your thoughts on the battery life?
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Battery life is surprisingly good for me. After the first couple days i easily get over 12 hours before reaching 20%. Must say i love that the phone drains almost no battery when listening to music in my experiences.
HyBry said:
I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.
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The wifi issue normally doesnt substantiate until a couple of weeks in use, and so does the screen flickering issue. So far popular know issues include:
1) Bad battery life (~ 2 hr of screen time)
2) Over heating after 5-10minutes in use
3) GPS issue
4) Screen flex issue
5) Screen flickering (mostly solved)
6) Antenna issue
7) 3G connection
8) Gaps
9) Sense issues
And before you buy this you should pray to your lucky star that you wont get a dud one. I've seen people on this forum going thru so much stress w HTC and this phone.
Battery life there are days I think not bad and on others I ask myself what the hell? Despite having my phone for around 4 or 5 months I still do notice drops of 3-5% in battery life. I can't really make my mind up for this device. I can't tell if htc is going to improve anything on this device anymore or if that's just as good as it gets. It'll be best if you just end up expecting nothing from HTC. That will save you from having expectations that wont be met anyway.
Edit: by the way there is a battery life thread with a trillion posts in it. Just open it and come up with a conclusion yourself. Be warned though, you might see people with around 5 to 6 hours of screen time which seems really questionable to me. I would say the people posting screen times of anywhere between 2 to 4 hours 30 minutes screen time are legit.
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Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
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The wifi issue normally doesnt substantiate until a couple of weeks in use, and so does the screen flickering issue. So far popular know issues include:
1) Bad battery life (~ 2 hr of screen time)
2) Over heating after 5-10minutes in use
3) GPS issue
4) Screen flex issue
5) Screen flickering (mostly solved)
6) Antenna issue
7) 3G connection
8) Gaps
9) Sense issues
And before you buy this you should pray to your lucky star that you wont get a dud one. I've seen people on this forum going thru so much stress w HTC and this phone.
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One X user (Tegra version) since one week. Switched to the CM10 preview this weekend. Very good phone, battery life is on par with the rest. If you check the points mentioned above (also make sure the power and volume buttons are responsive), that sounds like a good deal. ROM community is very active, JB support already almost flawless. Also, the screen is the best I have seen on a phone so far.
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Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
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Just go get a sgs3. You can expect a crappy design plus a display not as nice as the one x in my opinion. But you also get to have a better performance, little to no lag, much better battery life.probably less hardware faults etc. (You at least know what you can expect and you actually get it)
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Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
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Honestly I think HTC has been playing the blame games and time buying strategies to the extent of ignoring customers and treating like crap. But still better than LG as far as I have known. And as someone has said, if you want a better chance of getting a drama free phone better get the SGS3, as much as I hate Samsung. But you're not gonna have that beautiful hardware and AMAZING screen (funny how i say this since I dont own it lol).
This is a co-worker who's selling its ONE X, so no S3 option for me...
I'm having a lot of trouble in knowing what to focus on, because from what I see (read), there are issues (as with every single phone), and I think the important part is the support by HTC being good.
On that point (HTC support), what do you think? Any experience with them?
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Just go get a sgs3. You can expect a crappy design plus a display not as nice as the one x in my opinion. But you also get to have a better performance, little to no lag, much better battery life.probably less hardware faults etc. (You at least know what you can expect and you actually get it)
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Mouselik said:
This is a co-worker who's selling its ONE X, so no S3 option for me...
I'm having a lot of trouble in knowing what to focus on, because from what I see (read), there are issues (as with every single phone), and I think the important part is the support by HTC being good.
On that point (HTC support), what do you think? Any experience with them?
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Long term htc users: "HTC supporrt is great, they might lack a little at first, but sooner or later(probably they mean later) they will just nail the update properly and it will all function nicely."
first time HTC user(myself): i've yet to see any of the support and i honestly feel like i'm not in good hands but i'm still open for them to prove it. The only reason i haven't completely given up on htc is because of the people who have been with htc for a much longer time. They seem to have a much different opinion of HTC and their updates and what not.
Oh yeah, not to forget, rooting/flashing can void your warranty *HIGH FIVE*
in my opinion to have your HOX function properly, you're gonna want to root.
edit: since it's a co-worker you're probably going to be getting it cheaper, right? Which will probably make the OneX more worthy of its price.
First thing you're going to want to do is check if his bootloader says "unlocked" or "relocked" or "locked" - this would make it possible for you to lower the price and get it even cheaper
Well on the update point, I think LG just trumps every single brand on the market... They simple don't give us any... LOL
Regarding the list of possible issues, do you think it can be easily observed? or its more of a wear-by-time kind of thing?
shadehh said:
Long term htc users: "HTC supporrt is great, they might lack a little at first, but sooner or later(probably they mean later) they will just nail the update properly and it will all function nicely."
first time HTC user(myself): i've yet to see any of the support and i honestly feel like i'm not in good hands but i'm still open for them to prove it. The only reason i haven't completely given up on htc is because of the people who have been using htc for a much longer time , they seem to have a much different opinion of HTC and their updates and what not.
Oh yeah, not to forget, rooting/flashing can void your warranty *HIGH FIVE*
in my opinion to have your HOX function properly, you're gonna want to root.
edit: since it's a co-worker you're probably going to be getting it cheaper, right? Which will probably make the OneX more worthy of its price.
First thing you're going to want to do is check if his bootloader says "unlocked" or "relocked" or "locked" - this would make it possible for you to lower the price and get it even cheaper
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Mouselik said:
Well on the update point, I think LG just trumps every single brand on the market... They simple don't give us any... LOL
Regarding the list of possible issues, do you think it can be easily observed? or its more of a wear-by-time kind of thing?
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Honestly! When i got this phone i was the happiest person on earth until i noticed a few problems here and there and this just ruined the overall user experience. There's something about this phone that tells me i want to keep it. Design is gorgeous, sometimes i just turn the phone around just to admire the awesome look of how it's built. When the problems start to pile up, however, you get really unsatisfied.
With later batches i heard the phone is supposed to be pretty good and problem-free. I believe the main issues that you won't see immediately is the WLAN issue and maybe a bit of a screen gap. Haven't really been hearing much of the flicker issues anymore.
How to notice the WiFi issue i'd suggest a google search or for you to look around @ xda forums. I don't really feel like explaining it. Actually, youtube should help you in this case --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKCJ4Ab2tIo
Well, being a smartphone user for some time, I can relate with that feeling...
I'm going to buy it, sell my O3D, and may the gods of smartphone be with me!
Thank you so much for your help.
P.S. It will cost me €300, being that here in Pt, a new unlocked one costs €700...
shadehh said:
Honestly! When i got this phone i was the happiest person on earth until i noticed a few problems here and there and this just ruined the overall user experience. There's something about this phone that tells me i want to keep it. Design is gorgeous, sometimes i just turn the phone around just to admire the awesome look of how it's built. When the problems start to pile up, however, you get really unsatisfied.
With later batches i heard the phone is supposed to be pretty good and problem-free. I believe the main issues that you won't see immediately is the WLAN issue and maybe a bit of a screen gap. Haven't really been hearing much of the flicker issues anymore.
How to notice the WiFi issue i'd suggest a google search or for you to look around @ xda forums. I don't really feel like explaining it. Actually, youtube should help you in this case --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKCJ4Ab2tIo
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Mouselik said:
Well, being a smartphone user for some time, I can relate with that feeling...
I'm going to buy it, sell my O3D, and may the gods of smartphone be with me!
Thank you so much for your help.
P.S. It will cost me €300, being that here in Pt, a new unlocked one costs €700...
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In this case, the phone is well worth it's price. Had you stated that in the beginning i think no one here would have even wanted to start a discussion
Hehe. It was my jedi mind trick to allure you guys to the discussion!
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In this case, the phone is well worth it's price. Had you stated that in the beginning i think no one here would have even wanted to start a discussion
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I wouldn't worry too much about it, anything that goes wrong will be covered by the warranty anway.
Mouselik said:
Hi everyone!
I'm a LG O3D user (with great regrets...) and I have the possibility of a (almost) new ONE X, unbranded for €300.
I know that every phone as its issues, and I've read the foruns in search of those issues in the ONE X, but wanted to have a deeper insight on the everyday life with this one.
I really like HTC and having owned a Hero, and knowing the support (at least here in Pt) is good, I'm really thinking of it.
Thank you very much!
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Buying a new one will have less chances of defects, as new models are more bugfree
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Well,
The seller (co-worker and friend) reports none of the liste issues. No wi-fi problem, no screen problem, and general usage with no hick-ups.
Is used it for about a month. And, furtunatly for me, he's more of an iPhone guy hehe
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Buying a new one will have less chances of defects, as new models are more bugfree
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Hey guys I'm from the Xperia X8 forums (yeah, reeeeeaaallly long way from home). I'm getting a One X in less than 2 weeks and I was wondering if you guys can tell me if this phone is worth it ? I actually like this phone more than the S3, which I've been told by many to get over the One X. So I was wondering, could you guys tell me if it's worth getting, what are the pros and cons and do you regret getting it and if you do, what would be a better alternative ? I have read and read TONS of reviews online and all I can say is that the reviews are mixed, but quite positive. Besides, if it's one thing i trust its the opinions and advice of XDA Members Hope to hear some good news
- RohinZaraki (probably your future newbie)
I dont regret buying the hox, it has a strong shell which in fact still looks like new in my case. It is very fast, especially with custom roms! If you had to pay the extra money for the s3, i would ast it I'd not worth it. (in The Netherlands the s3 is more expensive) With the ongoing rom support, and the development of better and faster roms every week! there is a lot of fun flashing to come! I especially look out for the finished versions of Cyanogenmod 10/ Jellybean roms!
Hope this helps a little bit..
Thanks for that what I'm worried tho is about the many reports of faulty One X's which go bust within a week of use
I had an xperia x8 before the hox and my god how did I live with such a tiny screen lol, I do miss the 4 - 5 battery life
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This phone is definitely worth it, speaking from a person who.upgraded their gs2 after about 3 months usage I won't be upgrading this for a long time. My brother owns a gs3 and there isn't much difference even in battery life. You can't go wrong with whichever one you buy.
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Depending on when you need your new phone, you could wait for the One X+. However, both the S3 and One X are great devices, I just prefer the build quality, design and screen (especially in the sun!) of the One X.
sensation lover said:
This phone is definitely worth it, speaking from a person who.upgraded their gs2 after about 3 months usage I won't be upgrading this for a long time. My brother owns a gs3 and there isn't much difference even in battery life. You can't go wrong with whichever one you buy.
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So your saying that batter life is the same? funny because i see s3 users always end up here boosting how they can easily get 5 + hours batter life ect. ect.
As a HOX owner, I'll tell you that the One X isn't worth it. Don't get me wrong, it's the prettiest phone available right now. But as someone with a membership here, you have to know that the device support is crappy as well as, at least in my case, the device itself. How many phones on here have a bugs poll at launch[1]? Now here's the thing though, while I think there's a bunch of faults with the HOX, I can't actually recommend an alternative. All I can say is that the phone will give you headaches as it has a ton of issues and a minimal amount of devs.
[1] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592430
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As a HOX owner, I'll tell you that the One X isn't worth it. Don't get me wrong, it's the prettiest phone available right now. But as someone with a membership here, you have to know that the device support is crappy as well as, at least in my case, the device itself. How many phones on here have a bugs poll at launch[1]? Now here's the thing though, while I think there's a bunch of faults with the HOX, I can't actually recommend an alternative. All I can say is that the phone will give you headaches as it has a ton of issues and a minimal amount of devs.
[1] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592430
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Remember a much higher number of people complain than praise, that poll is not at all fair it's just a small poll on a small number of XDA members.
In the real world, there are more perfect than defect devices, I myself got a HOX 2 days after release and it is perfect no issues at all.
the only issues and headaches i have had are ones i have caused myself.
and it's not the number of devs that is important but the quality of work they do.
One X is excellent piece of kit but like anything else everything comes with an issue. Early fails should now be rectified in newer batches. But if I was you I'd wait for the One X+ only around the corner. Possibly 64gb, LTE, slightly faster whilst keeping the best of the One X. Only if price isn't an issue it should make the current One X cheaper.
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treebill said:
Remember a much higher number of people complain than praise, that poll is not at all fair it's just a small poll on a small number of XDA members.
In the real world, there are more perfect than defect devices, I myself got a HOX 2 days after release and it is perfect no issues at all.
the only issues and headaches i have had are ones i have caused myself.
and it's not the number of devs that is important but the quality of work they do.
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You're right in that the quality of the devs is more important than the number, after all, my previous phone was a HTC Incredible S, we basically had one CM dev, but that dev kept the device super stable, even in terms of nightlies. However when CM9 and now CM10 have come out, it's an almost forgotten device. You also look at the HOX with CM9, Interepresentation started but never finished. Look at TGasgoine's AOSP, started but on a break. These things matter when it comes to maintaining a device, there needs to be enough of a developer ecosystem to see others pick up the work. It especially matters with our device being a Tegra 3 as so much of the work is fresh ground.
You're also right that more people complain, however that doesn't negate the complaints. It seems to be a lottery over getting a good device. Hilarious since HTC are being so staunch about repairing/replacing locked bootloaders.
Oh and it should also be mentioned that there's no S-OFF for this device, even on the horizon and the only bootloader unlocker available is via the official HTCDEV.com and it's important to remember that htcdev only partially unlocks the bootloader. So things like overclocking and undervolting aren't possible right now.
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You're right in that the quality of the devs is more important than the number, after all, my previous phone was a HTC Incredible S, we basically had one CM dev, but that dev kept the device super stable, even in terms of nightlies. However when CM9 and now CM10 have come out, it's an almost forgotten device. You also look at the HOX with CM9, Interepresentation started but never finished. Look at TGasgoine's AOSP, started but on a break. These things matter when it comes to maintaining a device, there needs to be enough of a developer ecosystem to see others pick up the work. It especially matters with our device being a Tegra 3 as so much of the work is fresh ground.
You're also right that more people complain, however that doesn't negate the complaints. It seems to be a lottery over getting a good device. Hilarious since HTC are being so staunch about repairing/replacing locked bootloaders.
Oh and it should also be mentioned that there's no S-OFF for this device, even on the horizon and the only bootloader unlocker available is via the official HTCDEV.com and it's important to remember that htcdev only partially unlocks the bootloader. So things like overclocking and undervolting aren't possible right now.
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Sorry but you can already undervolt if you have unlocked your bootloader, just use a custom kernel.
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nikzDHD said:
Sorry but you can already undervolt if you have unlocked your bootloader, just use a custom kernel.
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Are you sure? Undervolting, just like overclocking should reset at reboot.
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Are you sure? Undervolting, just like overclocking should reset at reboot.
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Only if you don't use any "set on boot options"
I always make sure my oc/uv are not set on boot just in case.
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Sorry to bump this thread but I felt I had to. It's been nearly a month since I got my OX and I have to say I regret nothing thank you all.
I have a HOX and its the best phone I've ever owned, and I've had many android phones and rooted them and put custom roms on them all. But this doesn't need, Imo. My wife and father inlaw both have S3s and they both have many problems like overheating, random reboots, and bad battery. The both got the jellybean update and things seem to be ok for them now. But when we get ours it will make a great phone even greater. Htc all the way.
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Got one for my wife yesterday and its superb. The camera and build quality is great and really why I got it for her. Folders on home screens are an essential for her. Not seen what battery life's like but if its bad JB update will improve it probably. Love how when I slide my finger across the screen at the edge its seamless and glides off the edge. Its things like that, that HTC have done really well. Its the easiest android phone and anyone can pick it up and easily use it but I can't say that for some of the others.
I really want one but 32gb is not enough. I have a SGS2 and like that I have an SD card.
I did consider one x + but they are just trying to shift more before their new phones come out and I won't buy into that. HTC butterfly for me
I purchased hers from amazon warehouse used but from amazon directly so I knew if I had issues I could replace it easy. No issues yet. Joy to use.
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I ordered one a few days ago. But since I ordered it I started reading about all the issues it has.
Is it really THAT bad? Now I'm thinking of selling it as soon as it arrives and getting an HTC One A9 =/
I really thought nexus phone were supposed to be the best of android.
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I ordered one a few days ago. But since I ordered it I started reading about all the issues it has.
Is it really THAT bad?
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No, it is a great phone, period. And a fantastic phone given the (U.S.) price.
The folks with problems will always be more vocal than the folks who don't have problems. But, for example, check out the heavy upvoting on reddit when people post that they are not having problems. There is a large (but mostly silent) majority of folks who are simply enjoying their phone and have no reason to post to internet forums looking for advice.
Also, note that what appear to be the two most common issues (slowdown/lag after long periods of uptime, and battery issues) also crop up in the 6P forums. I don't know why some people have these issues and some (like me) don't, but I am not convinced that they are phone-specific even when they do occur.
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No, it is a great phone, period. And a fantastic phone given the (U.S.) price.
The folks with problems will always be more vocal than the folks who don't have problems. But, for example, check out the heavy upvoting on reddit when people post that they are not having problems. There is a large (but mostly silent) majority of folks who are simply enjoying their phone and have no reason to post to internet forums looking for advice.
Also, note that what appear to be the two most common issues (slowdown/lag after long periods of uptime, and battery issues) also crop up in the 6P forums. I don't know why some people have these issues and some (like me) don't, but I am not convinced that they are phone-specific even when they do occur.
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So you have no issues when opening up the camera app? That's what worries me the most
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So you have no issues when opening up the camera app? That's what worries me the most
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I do not have an issue when opening the app. Also, the stock app was just updated in the play store and I think I have seen some reports of people commenting favorably on the update.
In the interests of full disclosure, I should say that I am not a heavy camera user (though I do take pictures). I use my 5X mostly for e-mail, texts, voice calls, playing/listening to music, web browsing, and navigation.
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I ordered one a few days ago. But since I ordered it I started reading about all the issues it has.
Is it really THAT bad? Now I'm thinking of selling it as soon as it arrives and getting an HTC One A9 =/
I really thought nexus phone were supposed to be the best of android.
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Never read about issues before you get the phone. I got one a couple days ago and it is just as good as my Nexus 5. No screen issues as all. The device is physically perfect. However, if you go read about all of the stuff people have issues with you start dissecting your device and finding problems you normally wouldn't have noticed or that aren't real problems anyway. I bet if you went to the HTC A9 forum you'd find all sorts of threads with people reporting issues. People tend to report negative issues vs reporting on the positive.
Every new phone has issues. Only people who have something to complain about are going to be vocal. There are many, many happy users out there who haven't made a peep about their phones at all.
I've had my N5x for over a week now and am very happy with it. No issues, except for the very tight and stiff headphone jack.
Thanks for the replies guys
Same here, zero issues have been noticed by myself.
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So you have no issues when opening up the camera app? That's what worries me the most
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I found the camera lag seems to be related to AUTO HDR+. Camera seldom lags now after I just leave HDR+ off or on, instead of using auto.
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So you have no issues when opening up the camera app? That's what worries me the most
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No issues opening the camera here. It opens faster than the Nexus 5 camera.
Most of the issues people have are related to one of the apps or services they installed. Being a new version of Android with new features that need to be coded in (permission sets and doze) means there are lots of apps that can have incompatibility issues at this time.
Folks tend not look to their apps and services for their issues even though they're the cause of 99% of them. Instead they instantly blame the hardware for software problems.
If it makes you feel any better, I've had my 5x for 3 weeks and haven't encountered any problems. Only real disappointment for me is the speaker. But that's mainly bc I came from the M8. Nothing can really compare to boomsound. 3gb ram would be nice but its not like this phone is laggy with 2 gb or anything
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I found the camera lag seems to be related to AUTO HDR+. Camera seldom lags now after I just leave HDR+ off or on, instead of using auto.
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I think you're right about that. I've just left it on and seems just slightly less laggy. Also, could be the updated app a week or so ago. It's not quite as smooth as I would like it but still good to know of that it can be improved.
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had mine a few days now and it's not a bad phone. Battery life is worst than I was expecting and I have an issue with the hall effect sensor locking the screen when I use the magnet dock in my car (https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=196357)
No the issues aren't as bad as people make them out to be. I suspect if there was no Nexus 6P, people wouldn't be complaining about the 5X so much. The phone is a solid performer. I'm not sure why some are giving this device a hard time.
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I ordered one a few days ago. But since I ordered it I started reading about all the issues it has.
Is it really THAT bad? Now I'm thinking of selling it as soon as it arrives and getting an HTC One A9 =/
I really thought nexus phone were supposed to be the best of android.
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I have zero issues, except for the cheap back plastic picking up stains. What bad issues are you talking about?
And I agree that people who complain about lag have some app messing up their phone. I have always used System Panel Pro to diagnose stuff like that. Without it, I would have thought every phone I ever owned had problems. With it, I almost always see some app stuck in a process using up cpu and making things lag. Kill it, problem goes away.
Overall I'm pretty happy. Coming from a Nexus 5 the Nexus 5X is an improvement(although not HUGE). The only issue I could really think of is the less than impressive battery life.
So... My Nexus 5x arrived yesterday... There is a black spot in the camera I think I'm gonna have to trade it for a new one but have no idea of how international returns work xD
Wish me luck
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So... My Nexus 5x arrived yesterday... There is a black spot in the camera I think I'm gonna have to trade it for a new one but have no idea of how international returns work xD
Wish me luck
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A black spot in the camera? Never heard that before, can you post a pic please?
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So... My Nexus 5x arrived yesterday... There is a black spot in the camera I think I'm gonna have to trade it for a new one but have no idea of how international returns work xD
Wish me luck
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Are you talking about after you take a pic and look at a thumbnail it had the spot? Or in the viewfinder live there is a spot? Have you changed your DPI by chance?
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Are you talking about after you take a pic and look at a thumbnail it had the spot? Or in the viewfinder live there is a spot? Have you changed your DPI by chance?
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In the live viewfinder there is a spot and also in the final picture. I haven't change DPI settings, didn't know you could =P