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Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it. Yeah yeah I know some peeps would say we don't need 60fps, but hell for me even if I only get 40fps with nova hack, things seem so much smoother.
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Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it. Yeah yeah I know some peeps would say we don't need 60fps, but hell for me even if I only get 40fps with nova hack, things seem so much smoother.
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Yeah, I'm pissed off with my EVO! or I should say HTC!!! I've emailed them about 3 times now and still no reply in regards to the 30 frame rates per second cap. I'm going to wait until the 3rd of July and return my evo and wait for the sprint samsung galaxy version... i read there's going to be 2 versions, a pro with the qwerty and a keyboard less. Also i read the processor in it is identical to that of the iphone 4. This is bull HTC, i expected the best from the evo until the 2nd day i had my evo and saw my palm pre plays 3d games 10 times better than the evo.
I feel what you guys are saying, but how many of us would have known about this issue so early on had it not been for the members here bringing it to our attention, I would have probably caught it later on and not so soon. And yes it is very snappy with the hack.
Also I'm pretty sure sprint is only getting the QWERTY flavored Galaxy S. Samsung also doesn't have a very good track record with keeping up with their devices on a timely fashion. I left MOMENT due to that and went HTC, not like sprint has an variety of big named devices anyway. I'm pretty sure emailing HTC at this point is a waste of time seeing as they already stated they capped it for *their* reasons. This isn't a problem for me since the devs are working on fixes even tho it isn't their job. I'm not an average user so tweaking and twiddling with my phone is all good for me. But I can see how to an average user this would be an issue if they even decide to care.
I really don't know how any of you guys expect to by any smart phone or gadget for that matter and have it work flawlessly without fault. I still can't get over people getting bent about some light warpage that you only see in dark areas but hey thats just me.
Samsung has pledged to focus more on their Android devices so I would imagine that their past issues with not updating will be resolved...
I'm really wanting the Galaxy S Pro... It takes every other Android phone to task.
take the phone back jump to Verizon and move on SIMPLE !
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Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it.
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Because ONE "flaw" with ONE phone (which is, by the the way, the FIRST batch of the FIRST generation of this phone) obviously means the company as a whole is just garbage?
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Because ONE "flaw" with ONE phone (which is, by the the way, the FIRST batch of the FIRST generation of this phone) obviously means the company as a whole is just garbage?
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One phone? Uhhh.......
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One phone? Uhhh.......
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yes, this is the EVO 4G forum. When I say one phone I think it's implied I'm talking about the model as a whole.
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yes, this is the EVO 4G forum. When I say one phone I think it's implied I'm talking about the model as a whole.
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You emphasized one phone as if meaning to say that HTC hasn't ****ed up on just about every other phone they've ever put out as well...
IMO the grass is not greener at Samsung. I have had the i760 and the Moment and each time I swapped them for the HTC equivilent at the time.
Every device has issues, but at least HTC hacks are much easier to come by...the evidence is in the size of the XDA forums.
The only thing I like better about Samsung is that the hardware is less flimsey, but HTC has gotten better at it over the last year.
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You emphasized one phone as if meaning to say that HTC hasn't ****ed up on just about every other phone they've ever put out as well...
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I emphasized "one" phone because when you translate his post to English, the rant is:
The entire company "HTC" is crap as a whole because one of their phones has a 30fps cap on graphics.
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...which is obviously untrue.
Guys, we know that the cap is software imposed. It can be fixed. Sure, HTC screwed up by imposing a 30FPS cap, but nothing matches the QQing the iPhone 4 users are making right now. (Seriously, glass back and front? Antennae shorting?)
Basically, the cap will be broken completely soon. It is HTC's fault they imposed such a dumb cap in the first place, but calling the company crap because of that is kind of uncalled for.
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Guys, we know that the cap is software imposed. It can be fixed. Sure, HTC screwed up by imposing a 30FPS cap, but nothing matches the QQing the iPhone 4 users are making right now. (Seriously, glass back and front? Antennae shorting?)
Basically, the cap will be broken completely soon. It is HTC's fault they imposed such a dumb cap in the first place, but calling the company crap because of that is kind of uncalled for.
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+1 exactly my point.
OP, play with an evo for a few minutes and then try to say that the (temporary) 30fps cap really makes a difference to the overall experience of the device.
Just go buy the droid x and don't spend your precious time here to tell us how you hate HTC and the EVO because you have so much experience with the Droid X to says its so much better.
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You know, I bought this phone cash for 500 bucks... I'm a big gamer and would really like to play most of the 3d games gameloft has to offer and with the evo capped at 30 frp second, I'm **** out of luck! CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, but i want my moneys worth and for the look HTC does not care to fix this issue. I just hope the galaxy s delivers where the evo failed to. And for the record, I bought ASPHAL 5 for my evo on the second day I owned it and IT PLAYS LIKE ****!!!! It did not have to come here to figure this out.
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Samsung has pledged to focus more on their Android devices so I would imagine that their past issues with not updating will be resolved...
I'm really wanting the Galaxy S Pro... It takes every other Android phone to task.
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I'm actually waiting to see how thick the S Pro is. If it is pretty thin I might check it out, even though I will probably never use the hardware keyboard. The GPU alone looks to be kicking all kinds of ass.
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I feel what you guys are saying, but how many of us would have known about this issue so early on had it not been for the members here bringing it to our attention, I would have probably caught it later on and not so soon. And yes it is very snappy with the hack.
Also I'm pretty sure sprint is only getting the QWERTY flavored Galaxy S. Samsung also doesn't have a very good track record with keeping up with their devices on a timely fashion. I left MOMENT due to that and went HTC, not like sprint has an variety of big named devices anyway. I'm pretty sure emailing HTC at this point is a waste of time seeing as they already stated they capped it for *their* reasons. This isn't a problem for me since the devs are working on fixes even tho it isn't their job. I'm not an average user so tweaking and twiddling with my phone is all good for me. But I can see how to an average user this would be an issue if they even decide to care.
I really don't know how any of you guys expect to by any smart phone or gadget for that matter and have it work flawlessly without fault. I still can't get over people getting bent about some light warpage that you only see in dark areas but hey thats just me.
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You know, I bought this phone cash for 500 bucks... I'm a big gamer and would really like to play most of the 3d games gameloft has to offer and with the evo capped at 30 frp second, I'm **** out of luck! CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, but i want my moneys worth and for the look HTC does not care to fix this issue. I just hope the galaxy s delivers where the evo failed to. And for the record, I bought ASPHAL 5 for my evo on the second day I owned it and IT PLAYS LIKE ****!!!! It did not have to come here to figure this out.
^Do you really need to post that twice?
I totally get that you want your monies worth, I mean who doesn't right? Also as stated we all would have figured it out sooner or later on our own about the caps one way or another. And yes I agree the cap is nonsense and we shouldn't just "make due" but if you bought the evo as a means for serious gaming I think you picked up the wrong device . But all In all I get everyone's point
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You're crap dude. Change your tampon.
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Oh snap! lol I'll be laughing about this remark til tomorrow.
Hi folks,
Please don't flame me or the video producer. I am not trolling or disrespecting any person. I'm simply a confused guy who is due for upgrade & looking for nice people in the best forum to help .
As users do u agree or disagree.
I was about to make up my mind to buy HOX but now im confused again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNhC52WGupI
peace.
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Hi folks,
Please don't flame me or the video producer. I am not trolling or disrespecting any person. I'm simply a confused guy who is due for upgrade & looking for nice people in the best forum to help .
As users do u agree or disagree.
I was about to make up my mind to buy HOX but now im confused again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNhC52WGupI
peace.
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NO!
all answers are in here
HTC One X - HTC's New Hero Device! Mega Information Thread
I had a HOx for a few weeks and he has valid points. I showed friends the pictures I took with the HOX and they all said my HTC Incredible S took better pictures than the HOX. It was on latest 1.29 firmware.
And not only the videos are choppy, the whole UI experience is choppy, like 20fps. It is really depressed to see that the hava a full GPU, quad core power and android 4 and STILL aren't able to manage a smooth scrollinge experience (like iphone scrolling). And I know people see this but choose to ignore it, game menus scroll smooth but the actual OS lags...
edit: I had 3 HOXes, the all act the same (hardware issues ignored)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elLrWWFVNOM
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all answers are in here
HTC One X - HTC's New Hero Device! Mega Information Thread
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But to sum at that huge thread, I'd say it like this;
If you get a fault-free one, it's a fantastic phone.
BUT....your chances of getting a fault-free phone are much less than they should be.
If you want to take part in the HTC One X crap-shoot, please be prepared to pursue HTC with warranty returns until they get it right. Do not unlock bootloader until you are happy with it!
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But to sum at that huge thread, I'd say it like this;
If you get a fault-free one, it's a fantastic phone.
BUT....your chances of getting a fault-free phone are much less than they should be.
If you want to take part in the HTC One X crap-shoot, please be prepared to pursue HTC with warranty returns until they get it right. Do not unlock bootloader until you are happy with it!
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Agreed I got a perfect hox and it such a good phone, it sucks that most come out doa. Take a look at the best picture you've taken you can get extremely good pictures from it, most people just point and shoot which doesn't give any camera justice.
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From my experience with sgs2, we had plenty of complaints about it. but boy the complaints list on this HOX are by far more.
shame on htc to do this
I am not going to give up, i might wait for htc to push new batch before I buy one, may be next month
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Agreed I got a perfect hox and it such a good phone, it sucks that most come out doa. Take a look at the best picture you've taken you can get extremely good pictures from it, most people just point and shoot which doesn't give any camera justice.
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thx for ur reply m8, how is there batch date, or serial sequence to decide the goodness of the device? I want to check before taking it home
I didn't feel like listening to 15 minutes "whining" but compared to the sgs2 I got when it was out the hox actually already is pretty good, battery life is as good as the sgs2 after a year, no screen defects/flickering. I only have one issue though it could be considered quite a big issue and I really hope it's a software issue and it is that the sim card isn't recognised anymore and consequently the hox stops working as a phone until I reenter the pin
all in all, The HOX is bit of hit an miss. am I right ?
No, it's the best (smart)phone I ever had, I love this phone much more even than my Desire.
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all in all, The HOX is bit of hit an miss. am I right ?
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The One X is a fantastic device and you're MUCH more likely to get a working version than a faulty one. The only reason it LOOKS like there are loads of faulty ones is because people who have a fully functional, working device don't start threads complaining about it
There's a poll on here comparing how many people have a working one against those who have a faulty one and guess which came out on top by quite a considerable margin... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585082&highlight=poll
Also, as this is a developers forum, people who have faulty devices are going to stumble across devices to try and find a fix. The problems aren't any way near as widespread as it seems.
Of course, defective devices shouldn't be reaching customers at all, but there's nothing you can do about that I'm afraid
No, its worse then that ... there are people reporting stranger lies
After optimising and disabling some apps that were sucking my battery down (which was my main gripe about this phone) I am more than happy with the HOX. The camera is sweet, games/emu's run great and the screen (even on 25% brightness) pops out. Well worth a purchase.
you can not go wrong with this phone mate. best option is to find a store close by to you which you can go and check the phone for yourself before taking it away with you. explain your fears to the sales assistant and see what they say and if they let you inspect it. but anyways if you get a perfect one you are in business and you could not ask for a better phone. i really hope development picks up more in our forums as this deserves nothing but the best.
s3 is another top handset but i feel there is more to the one x. development for the s3 will be huge. but think about this.
you are using Touchwiz and you are thinking man this is ugly. you want to change it but you get fed up with the launchers as well. you wish you could try sense but you can not as it is hard to port to a sammy phone and second no one has done that. were on the One X not only you have sense but we have now cm9 and you can use Touchwiz launcher as well. so you are getting yourself a beast of a phone mate
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you can not go wrong with this phone mate. best option is to find a store close by to you which you can go and check the phone for yourself before taking it away with you. explain your fears to the sales assistant and see what they say and if they let you inspect it. but anyways if you get a perfect one you are in business and you could not ask for a better phone. i really hope development picks up more in our forums as this deserves nothing but the best.
s3 is another top handset but i feel there is more to the one x. development for the s3 will be huge. but think about this.
you are using Touchwiz and you are thinking man this is ugly. you want to change it but you get fed up with the launchers as well. you wish you could try sense but you can not as it is hard to port to a sammy phone and second no one has done that. were on the One X not only you have sense but we have now cm9 and you can use Touchwiz launcher as well. so you are getting yourself a beast of a phone mate
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Cheers.
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I think some people have good luck and some have bad. I've had mine for more than a week and it's perfect. However, I've accompanied someone to collect a replacement for a faulty unit. Guess what, went back home to charge and the red light is not showing on the replacement unit. I've also heard a lot of complaints ranging from battery not charging, unit not turning on, squeaky phone edges.
If quality control doesn't improve soon, and with all the SG3 hype, One X might find itself sliding down a slippery slope.
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I think some people have good luck and some have bad. I've had mine for more than a week and it's perfect. However, I've accompanied someone to collect a replacement for a faulty unit. Guess what, went back home to charge and the red light is not showing on the replacement unit. I've also heard a lot of complaints ranging from battery not charging, unit not turning on, squeaky phone edges.
If quality control doesn't improve soon, and with all the SG3 hype, One X might find itself sliding down a slippery slope.
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take me as an example I was about to buy one, but now I have to do a masters degree in understanding/avoiding the faults which can come with it
Hey guys I'm from the Xperia X8 forums (yeah, reeeeeaaallly long way from home). I'm getting a One X in less than 2 weeks and I was wondering if you guys can tell me if this phone is worth it ? I actually like this phone more than the S3, which I've been told by many to get over the One X. So I was wondering, could you guys tell me if it's worth getting, what are the pros and cons and do you regret getting it and if you do, what would be a better alternative ? I have read and read TONS of reviews online and all I can say is that the reviews are mixed, but quite positive. Besides, if it's one thing i trust its the opinions and advice of XDA Members Hope to hear some good news
- RohinZaraki (probably your future newbie)
I dont regret buying the hox, it has a strong shell which in fact still looks like new in my case. It is very fast, especially with custom roms! If you had to pay the extra money for the s3, i would ast it I'd not worth it. (in The Netherlands the s3 is more expensive) With the ongoing rom support, and the development of better and faster roms every week! there is a lot of fun flashing to come! I especially look out for the finished versions of Cyanogenmod 10/ Jellybean roms!
Hope this helps a little bit..
Thanks for that what I'm worried tho is about the many reports of faulty One X's which go bust within a week of use
I had an xperia x8 before the hox and my god how did I live with such a tiny screen lol, I do miss the 4 - 5 battery life
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This phone is definitely worth it, speaking from a person who.upgraded their gs2 after about 3 months usage I won't be upgrading this for a long time. My brother owns a gs3 and there isn't much difference even in battery life. You can't go wrong with whichever one you buy.
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Depending on when you need your new phone, you could wait for the One X+. However, both the S3 and One X are great devices, I just prefer the build quality, design and screen (especially in the sun!) of the One X.
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This phone is definitely worth it, speaking from a person who.upgraded their gs2 after about 3 months usage I won't be upgrading this for a long time. My brother owns a gs3 and there isn't much difference even in battery life. You can't go wrong with whichever one you buy.
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So your saying that batter life is the same? funny because i see s3 users always end up here boosting how they can easily get 5 + hours batter life ect. ect.
As a HOX owner, I'll tell you that the One X isn't worth it. Don't get me wrong, it's the prettiest phone available right now. But as someone with a membership here, you have to know that the device support is crappy as well as, at least in my case, the device itself. How many phones on here have a bugs poll at launch[1]? Now here's the thing though, while I think there's a bunch of faults with the HOX, I can't actually recommend an alternative. All I can say is that the phone will give you headaches as it has a ton of issues and a minimal amount of devs.
[1] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592430
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As a HOX owner, I'll tell you that the One X isn't worth it. Don't get me wrong, it's the prettiest phone available right now. But as someone with a membership here, you have to know that the device support is crappy as well as, at least in my case, the device itself. How many phones on here have a bugs poll at launch[1]? Now here's the thing though, while I think there's a bunch of faults with the HOX, I can't actually recommend an alternative. All I can say is that the phone will give you headaches as it has a ton of issues and a minimal amount of devs.
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Remember a much higher number of people complain than praise, that poll is not at all fair it's just a small poll on a small number of XDA members.
In the real world, there are more perfect than defect devices, I myself got a HOX 2 days after release and it is perfect no issues at all.
the only issues and headaches i have had are ones i have caused myself.
and it's not the number of devs that is important but the quality of work they do.
One X is excellent piece of kit but like anything else everything comes with an issue. Early fails should now be rectified in newer batches. But if I was you I'd wait for the One X+ only around the corner. Possibly 64gb, LTE, slightly faster whilst keeping the best of the One X. Only if price isn't an issue it should make the current One X cheaper.
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Remember a much higher number of people complain than praise, that poll is not at all fair it's just a small poll on a small number of XDA members.
In the real world, there are more perfect than defect devices, I myself got a HOX 2 days after release and it is perfect no issues at all.
the only issues and headaches i have had are ones i have caused myself.
and it's not the number of devs that is important but the quality of work they do.
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You're right in that the quality of the devs is more important than the number, after all, my previous phone was a HTC Incredible S, we basically had one CM dev, but that dev kept the device super stable, even in terms of nightlies. However when CM9 and now CM10 have come out, it's an almost forgotten device. You also look at the HOX with CM9, Interepresentation started but never finished. Look at TGasgoine's AOSP, started but on a break. These things matter when it comes to maintaining a device, there needs to be enough of a developer ecosystem to see others pick up the work. It especially matters with our device being a Tegra 3 as so much of the work is fresh ground.
You're also right that more people complain, however that doesn't negate the complaints. It seems to be a lottery over getting a good device. Hilarious since HTC are being so staunch about repairing/replacing locked bootloaders.
Oh and it should also be mentioned that there's no S-OFF for this device, even on the horizon and the only bootloader unlocker available is via the official HTCDEV.com and it's important to remember that htcdev only partially unlocks the bootloader. So things like overclocking and undervolting aren't possible right now.
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You're right in that the quality of the devs is more important than the number, after all, my previous phone was a HTC Incredible S, we basically had one CM dev, but that dev kept the device super stable, even in terms of nightlies. However when CM9 and now CM10 have come out, it's an almost forgotten device. You also look at the HOX with CM9, Interepresentation started but never finished. Look at TGasgoine's AOSP, started but on a break. These things matter when it comes to maintaining a device, there needs to be enough of a developer ecosystem to see others pick up the work. It especially matters with our device being a Tegra 3 as so much of the work is fresh ground.
You're also right that more people complain, however that doesn't negate the complaints. It seems to be a lottery over getting a good device. Hilarious since HTC are being so staunch about repairing/replacing locked bootloaders.
Oh and it should also be mentioned that there's no S-OFF for this device, even on the horizon and the only bootloader unlocker available is via the official HTCDEV.com and it's important to remember that htcdev only partially unlocks the bootloader. So things like overclocking and undervolting aren't possible right now.
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Sorry but you can already undervolt if you have unlocked your bootloader, just use a custom kernel.
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Sorry but you can already undervolt if you have unlocked your bootloader, just use a custom kernel.
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Are you sure? Undervolting, just like overclocking should reset at reboot.
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Are you sure? Undervolting, just like overclocking should reset at reboot.
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Only if you don't use any "set on boot options"
I always make sure my oc/uv are not set on boot just in case.
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Sorry to bump this thread but I felt I had to. It's been nearly a month since I got my OX and I have to say I regret nothing thank you all.
I have a HOX and its the best phone I've ever owned, and I've had many android phones and rooted them and put custom roms on them all. But this doesn't need, Imo. My wife and father inlaw both have S3s and they both have many problems like overheating, random reboots, and bad battery. The both got the jellybean update and things seem to be ok for them now. But when we get ours it will make a great phone even greater. Htc all the way.
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Got one for my wife yesterday and its superb. The camera and build quality is great and really why I got it for her. Folders on home screens are an essential for her. Not seen what battery life's like but if its bad JB update will improve it probably. Love how when I slide my finger across the screen at the edge its seamless and glides off the edge. Its things like that, that HTC have done really well. Its the easiest android phone and anyone can pick it up and easily use it but I can't say that for some of the others.
I really want one but 32gb is not enough. I have a SGS2 and like that I have an SD card.
I did consider one x + but they are just trying to shift more before their new phones come out and I won't buy into that. HTC butterfly for me
I purchased hers from amazon warehouse used but from amazon directly so I knew if I had issues I could replace it easy. No issues yet. Joy to use.
Chameleon Rom by Jazzk
The most stable Rom for your SGS2
ive been lucky enough to have a htc desire but whats goin to be then next phone with as much support as me disire?
cos theres lots of popular phones about that i thought had loads of support that to me suprise dont have lil things like an unpayed way of doin a sim unlock
The S3 and the One X have pretty big communities. Dunno how friendly they are though...
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The S3 and the One X have pretty big communities. Dunno how friendly they are though...
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+1. The next top tier phone will always have a vast selection of roms. I don't care about friendliness, if you're a fool you'll get dominated wherever you go.
I have used Desire for more than two years. All stock, never messed with it, and it was P-E-R-F-E-C-T. I loved it!
Now, I have One X, and that's a different pleasure. I got it rooted, and it has a great, smooth, fast, reliable, and battery light ROM.
Desire I handed over to my wife, and she still lets me touch it.
S III would be my second choice...
But now, when One X+ is announced, there is no dilema!!
i quite agree the s111 is the phone my wife upgraded to when i got her desire but i told her to get the X1 so hope i see all of you in the s111 forum in a couple yrs
I think One X is a good option.
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ive been lucky enough to have a htc desire but whats goin to be then next phone with as much support as me disire?
cos theres lots of popular phones about that i thought had loads of support that to me suprise dont have lil things like an unpayed way of doin a sim unlock
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Might go Nexus this this time around... Depending on what Google releases on Oct 29th. It's probably the LG Nexus... well see if I'll be convinced that its a great device.
OneX+ would be my 2nd choice..
HTC Phone sales: 7,3 m
HTC Pkone sales drop: -42,5%
This is only in the Q3 2012 !
What is happening?
seriously a new post for this? its been discussed in many threads
everyone hates HTC for the lack of SD expansion despite the big storage, the battery issues despite rushing for the slim SGS2 last year which seems to have confused HTC about which is more imporant, they also hate it for not providing OTA faster than google
and the defects on the One X early launch and the US import block from apple on the One series
finally HTC can't afford the mass advertising of samsung
so yea, we all wanted HTC down and it is going down
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HTC Phone sales: 7,3 m
HTC Pkone sales drop: -42,5%
This is only in the Q3 2012 !
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You wonder about it? I don't. HTC does the same mistakes over and over again, losing customers, maintaining their bad image.
its ok they are going back to their windows root as you can see by their 8x
Also S-On. That alone has caused many to not buy HTC devices anymore. I won't be buying their devices that are S-On ever again. (Not that you care what I think, just if enough people think like I do....their sales will drop even more)...
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Just to be clear with s-off and sh-t.
I have 3 android devices now, and I have had over 10. Now I can say, that flashing on HTC is pretty easy. And I really mean easy. I mean, go and flash Acer iconia tab a500. If you'll back in 3 hours, I'll give you a cookie.
If you really bothered, that you need to connect phone to PC every time you flash it, go and buy nexus. It will make much more sense.
HTC is the best manufacturer in my. Sammy has access to the crank accessories like displays, memory, CPUs, but HTC still can fight Sammy. All other manufacturers are half dead now (Sony, Nokia, Motorola, LG).
There some massive problems in the management, some troubles with quality control.
And you believe me, if HTC would grain access to s-off, it will make 4,3% of users happy. And if they'll push jb 4.2 ota a week before Sammy, it will make 2% more customers happy.
Again, HTC's problem is getting "adult" phone manufacturer, and not the geek-smartphone designer it was 5 years ago. And it can be, that one of the reasons of it, are the people like you, guys, who are most visible in Internet, who want f-cking mega-wunder-device with fastest updates.
Period
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I am really sorry I honestly don't find the point about this thread.
If HTC goes bankrupt that is their thing, or are you their spy sent here to discuss and try to convince us to buy more of "your" product?
Too bad you fai....
Zlotin said:
Just to be clear with s-off and sh-t.
I have 3 android devices now, and I have had over 10. Now I can say, that flashing on HTC is pretty easy. And I really mean easy. I mean, go and flash Acer iconia tab a500. If you'll back in 3 hours, I'll give you a cookie.
If you really bothered, that you need to connect phone to PC every time you flash it, go and buy nexus. It will make much more sense.
HTC is the best manufacturer in my. Sammy has access to the crank accessories like displays, memory, CPUs, but HTC still can fight Sammy. All other manufacturers are half dead now (Sony, Nokia, Motorola, LG).
There some massive problems in the management, some troubles with quality control.
And you believe me, if HTC would grain access to s-off, it will make 4,3% of users happy. And if they'll push jb 4.2 ota a week before Sammy, it will make 2% more customers happy.
Again, HTC's problem is getting "adult" phone manufacturer, and not the geek-smartphone designer it was 5 years ago. And it can be, that one of the reasons of it, are the people like you, guys, who are most visible in Internet, who want f-cking mega-wunder-device with fastest updates.
Period
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:good: super post
Zlotin said:
Just to be clear with s-off and sh-t.
I have 3 android devices now, and I have had over 10. Now I can say, that flashing on HTC is pretty easy. And I really mean easy. I mean, go and flash Acer iconia tab a500. If you'll back in 3 hours, I'll give you a cookie.
If you really bothered, that you need to connect phone to PC every time you flash it, go and buy nexus. It will make much more sense.
HTC is the best manufacturer in my. Sammy has access to the crank accessories like displays, memory, CPUs, but HTC still can fight Sammy. All other manufacturers are half dead now (Sony, Nokia, Motorola, LG).
There some massive problems in the management, some troubles with quality control.
And you believe me, if HTC would grain access to s-off, it will make 4,3% of users happy. And if they'll push jb 4.2 ota a week before Sammy, it will make 2% more customers happy.
Again, HTC's problem is getting "adult" phone manufacturer, and not the geek-smartphone designer it was 5 years ago. And it can be, that one of the reasons of it, are the people like you, guys, who are most visible in Internet, who want f-cking mega-wunder-device with fastest updates.
Period
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oh my god this guy is spot on. exactly what i wanted to say for a long time, to be honest i think they died mostly because of marketing, i dont see much of HTC's marketing compare to Samsung, everyone agree the HOX is an awesome phone but not so many people know about it, combined with the money lost from buying Beats. I'm kind of tired of people *****ing about sense, 32gb is not much, no sd card, removable battery, seriously MOST normal user (not the geek like us here on XDA) dont care about those things, oh yeah and one more thing, i love sense. LOL
Possibly also gonna be one of my last phone by HTC - for now... My phone is getting repaired for 250 euros and then i'm going to sell it for 250 euros (basically giving it away without profit). I already have a buyer and i will get the nexus 4 from google for only 300 euros. (i'm only doing this because it costs me 50$ more to get a nexus 4, since i have to get it repaired either way, eh?). If the nexus4 didn't have such a great money/specification ratio i would have probably stayed one x.
pros: I love htc's design, i love sense, it does feel different.
cons:
Their UI is good, but it comes with consequences, sadly due to my screen breaking i don't think i'll be experiencing sense with jelly bean. As good as 2.17 has gotten, IMO it's not there yet in terms of performance. I can't describe how much the app drawar annoys the living crap out of me. (I think JB fixes it though)
Display is wonderful, but why in their right mind would they put a 1800 mAh battery in a quadcore phone with a 40nm processor? I monitor my battery whenever i use it as if there's no tomorrow. You end up reaching a point where you think, okay can't touch this or that. Might get a sporadic % drop that will leave me with nearly no juice at all.
Even before rooting my phone, it would drop by 5 sometimes even more % at a time. This fault seems to not only be in the one x, but it also seems to show same crappy stats on the HTC Cha Cha(given to me by my provider) which i'm using now till my one x comes back.
IMO they seem to be doing a lot of things right and well, but if you are doing more wrong than right then that's where a company has two think twice about what they are doing.
That's not to say that other companies do not have their problems. Samsung has its faults too. But i feel as though with that company the wrongs don't outweigh the rights. I feel as though they(HTC) still haven't learned about simple things. I remember reading their blog about how important a thin phone is. It is important, but those 0.2~3 mm for the sake of a little bit more battery would satisfy users much more than having a device with 0.2~0.3mm less thickness and therefor less battery.
There's a reason they are not earning money and they should look into it asap.
edit: this seems like a rant. No! I honestly have not seen a nicer screen than the one on my ONE X. But despite the gorgeous screen i can't see it justifying those few faults by htc. (One thing i must admit - once i went SLCD2 i can't convince myself to go back to amoled that's one of the only main reasons i've also considered for going with the nexus4 is also because of the IPS screen which is said to be good. If it were amoled i honestly would have canceled this decision and stayed with the one x this round)
This is my first HTC device, and this is the opinion of a first time HTC user. Me and a friend had WiFi issues and screen gap etc. etc.
This doesn't leave us with a good taste in our mouth. I can really imagine long term users wanting to stay with HTC and that's understandable. This small mistake at the beginning though, has left people still worried about buying an htc one x to date. Still posts pop up about concerns. The first impression is the most important - especially to users wanting to convert to a new company - and as a company that was already in a bit of a trouble they really messed it up this time around. Lets hope htc does it right with tegra 4 a15s. Maybe faith can be restored. Hope it gets back on track because a world with samsung and apple only would suck major balls.
Zlotin said:
Just to be clear with s-off and sh-t.
I have 3 android devices now, and I have had over 10. Now I can say, that flashing on HTC is pretty easy. And I really mean easy. I mean, go and flash Acer iconia tab a500. If you'll back in 3 hours, I'll give you a cookie.
If you really bothered, that you need to connect phone to PC every time you flash it, go and buy nexus. It will make much more sense.
HTC is the best manufacturer in my. Sammy has access to the crank accessories like displays, memory, CPUs, but HTC still can fight Sammy. All other manufacturers are half dead now (Sony, Nokia, Motorola, LG).
There some massive problems in the management, some troubles with quality control.
And you believe me, if HTC would grain access to s-off, it will make 4,3% of users happy. And if they'll push jb 4.2 ota a week before Sammy, it will make 2% more customers happy.
Again, HTC's problem is getting "adult" phone manufacturer, and not the geek-smartphone designer it was 5 years ago. And it can be, that one of the reasons of it, are the people like you, guys, who are most visible in Internet, who want f-cking mega-wunder-device with fastest updates.
Period
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One thing, dunno if any of you agree.
Those 4,3% and 2% customers are the ones who talk on and on about smartphones on the internet.
Which causes, rumours.. self advertisement.. and I think the resources spent on granting the happiness of these communities will do no harm, in finance or whatsoever.
always wise my friend shehadeh
HTC used to be the top...
My kaiser, my N1,, and now my Senny, are all real good phones.
The sensation form factor with the curve edge screen and removable battery/entire case should have been the standard going forward.
Unfortunately, they are not pushing out anything ground breaking anymore, just following the curve, not creating it, not to mention, their ads really suck compared to the Samsung ones.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using Tapatalk 2
omfg, i even came to the laptop due posts in this thread...
thekillingroad said:
One thing, dunno if any of you agree.
Those 4,3% and 2% customers are the ones who talk on and on about smartphones on the internet.
Which causes, rumours.. self advertisement.. and I think the resources spent on granting the happiness of these communities will do no harm, in finance or whatsoever.
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It is only half of the truth. Yeah, the people like us are irl usually pioneers of technologies, but the half of us are nerds. I`m sorry, but it so. And those who are posting all 2 minutes in jb thread are the worst of them.
As for me, i allways recommend those phones, which pass to the person, whom I recommend it. And, if you believe or not, I do even recommend iPhone some times.
HTC is the manufacturer, who came from geek area and they are still trying not to loose those auditory. If they do it good is another question...
@mrbkkt1
Man, don`t You know, marketing and management are not only the ads?
Look, the worst move in my eyes was bringing hox so early to the end user. They could take one month extra and release it with a firmware equal to 2.17. In his first month, HOX was one of the worst phones out there: Screen Flickering, VERY bad battery times, many issues in perfomance...In most benchmarks it is still listed with old software, with newer builds it blows SGS3 and all other phones out there.
Another failure was to go after the slimness. I think, it was a wish of top managers, making the hox so slim and light. I would really LOVE my HOX, if it was 3mm thicker with 2300 battery. I would even pay extra, and the most non-emotional buyers would do it to, i think.
Sense is another point, where htc is in their own sh-t. The widgets are very nice, i even prefer the lock screen, but the notification and app drawers are far behind of ICS. They could save money or let programmers work on the new updates, instead of working on porting this crap. Although there are some really great features like get started...
So, like You can see, the problems are much deeper, than ads...
And You can`t say new HTCs are worse than the old ones. HTC Neo was a big fail in my eyes, Universal or Touch Cruise. They where all not good. But at the same time there was Blueangel, a masterpiece, or htc hd2...
Zlotin said:
omfg, i even came to the laptop due posts in this thread...
It is only half of the truth. Yeah, the people like us are irl usually pioneers of technologies, but the half of us are nerds. I`m sorry, but it so. And those who are posting all 2 minutes in jb thread are the worst of them.
As for me, i allways recommend those phones, which pass to the person, whom I recommend it. And, if you believe or not, I do even recommend iPhone some times.
HTC is the manufacturer, who came from geek area and they are still trying not to loose those auditory. If they do it good is another question...
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No sorrys, I called all of us nerds couple of times in the JB thread =)
I did recommend an iPhone to my own sister, to her husband, to a random guy who just asked stuff about my HD2 in an elevator of a mall.. etc Of course what I meant was not misleading ppl, but I think you did get the idea of what I meant by saying the self advertisement.
exactly what I was trying to say that they are coming from geek area, and they should not lose this while trying to sail into oceans.
Ok staying in the geek area is not that profitable at all for a large company, but forgetting it also is not a good way too.
thekillingroad said:
No sorrys, I called all of us nerds couple of times in the JB thread =)
I did recommend an iPhone to my own sister, to her husband, to a random guy who just asked stuff about my HD2 in an elevator of a mall.. etc Of course what I meant was not misleading ppl, but I think you did get the idea of what I meant by saying the self advertisement.
exactly what I was trying to say that they are coming from geek area, and they should not lose this while trying to sail into oceans.
Ok staying in the geek area is not that profitable at all for a large company, but forgetting it also is not a good way too.
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You know, in marketing theory, it`s even needed to have fanbase of market`s pioneers, but mobile area is to specific. You see it with apple. They going straight to the consumers, passing all the pioneers
Zlotin said:
omfg, i even came to the laptop due posts in this thread...
It is only half of the truth. Yeah, the people like us are irl usually pioneers of technologies, but the half of us are nerds. I`m sorry, but it so. And those who are posting all 2 minutes in jb thread are the worst of them.
As for me, i allways recommend those phones, which pass to the person, whom I recommend it. And, if you believe or not, I do even recommend iPhone some times.
HTC is the manufacturer, who came from geek area and they are still trying not to loose those auditory. If they do it good is another question...
@mrbkkt1
Man, don`t You know, marketing and management are not only the ads?
Look, the worst move in my eyes was bringing hox so early to the end user. They could take one month extra and release it with a firmware equal to 2.17. In his first month, HOX was one of the worst phones out there: Screen Flickering, VERY bad battery times, many issues in perfomance...In most benchmarks it is still listed with old software, with newer builds it blows SGS3 and all other phones out there.
Another failure was to go after the slimness. I think, it was a wish of top managers, making the hox so slim and light. I would really LOVE my HOX, if it was 3mm thicker with 2300 battery. I would even pay extra, and the most non-emotional buyers would do it to, i think.
Sense is another point, where htc is in their own sh-t. The widgets are very nice, i even prefer the lock screen, but the notification and app drawers are far behind of ICS. They could save money or let programmers work on the new updates, instead of working on porting this crap. Although there are some really great features like get started...
So, like You can see, the problems are much deeper, than ads...
And You can`t say new HTCs are worse than the old ones. HTC Neo was a big fail in my eyes, Universal or Touch Cruise. They where all not good. But at the same time there was Blueangel, a masterpiece, or htc hd2...
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I'm assuming hox is HTC one x ?
Ads are very influential in certain ways for the mainstream. I remember seeing the ad for the sensation, with the little girl playing the piano, wondering what the point was. Samsung is doing very well at being the anti-Apple.
Another problem is that Samsung and lg make other products besides phones, which can influence their buying decisions, like TVs and washers. What else does HTC make?
I love HTC, but honestly, in a month or so, I'm picking up either an N4, or a GN2.
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Its just the marketing, you all hate iPhone but that makes the most money does it run android no, but people still buy it you lot are not the average tech consumers. HTC is doing bad because of marketing due to the lack of spending money. They spent their money on the wrong things. You cannot compare apple and samsung to HTC, a smartphone manufacturer you idiots. Someone said they are not doing well because of the lack of sd card and s-off you must be seriously stupid. After reading all of these comments I can tell you all one thing business lessons didn't do you a favour did it. I'am a business student I have experience believe me it's just marketing and brand image.
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After service very suck in my country.
You can only sell me one time!
Repaire part very expensive!
Used to love this brand but not anymore.
Wifi problem,broken color in phone's body,USB problem,battery sucker.
No warranty cause unlocked bootloader but you never check my phone yet but only telling unlock you will never check anything.
Bye bye.
Zlotin said:
omfg, i even came to the laptop due posts in this thread...
It is only half of the truth. Yeah, the people like us are irl usually pioneers of technologies, but the half of us are nerds. I`m sorry, but it so. And those who are posting all 2 minutes in jb thread are the worst of them.
As for me, i allways recommend those phones, which pass to the person, whom I recommend it. And, if you believe or not, I do even recommend iPhone some times.
HTC is the manufacturer, who came from geek area and they are still trying not to loose those auditory. If they do it good is another question...
@mrbkkt1
Man, don`t You know, marketing and management are not only the ads?
Look, the worst move in my eyes was bringing hox so early to the end user. They could take one month extra and release it with a firmware equal to 2.17. In his first month, HOX was one of the worst phones out there: Screen Flickering, VERY bad battery times, many issues in perfomance...In most benchmarks it is still listed with old software, with newer builds it blows SGS3 and all other phones out there.
Another failure was to go after the slimness. I think, it was a wish of top managers, making the hox so slim and light. I would really LOVE my HOX, if it was 3mm thicker with 2300 battery. I would even pay extra, and the most non-emotional buyers would do it to, i think.
Sense is another point, where htc is in their own sh-t. The widgets are very nice, i even prefer the lock screen, but the notification and app drawers are far behind of ICS. They could save money or let programmers work on the new updates, instead of working on porting this crap. Although there are some really great features like get started...
So, like You can see, the problems are much deeper, than ads...
And You can`t say new HTCs are worse than the old ones. HTC Neo was a big fail in my eyes, Universal or Touch Cruise. They where all not good. But at the same time there was Blueangel, a masterpiece, or htc hd2...
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Maybe we are a small percentage of users...but as someone else mentioned, we do influence family and friends buying habits. Not only that but I've seen quite a few devs drop HTC devices for Samsung BECAUSE of the locked bootloaders.
There are 4 million xda users. If a small percentage of us influence others it does add up. All of these decisions add up.
Sent from somewhere....if I could only remember where....