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should i switch from gsm to verizon nexus

i can an unlimited min, tex, and data for $70/month through my business. i currently have the gsm nexus with tmobile. was thinking of switching to verizon for the lte speeds. the only thing that i'm worried about it that it doesn't run a completely stock android (verizon crapware) and it won't get updates as quick. also worried about battery life. lte is a battery killer. are there any cons to switching?

wasya152 said:
i can an unlimited min, tex, and data for $70/month through my business. i currently have the gsm nexus with tmobile. was thinking of switching to verizon for the lte speeds. the only thing that i'm worried about it that it doesn't run a completely stock android (verizon crapware) and it won't get updates as quick. also worried about battery life. lte is a battery killer. are there any cons to switching?
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Well updates *do* come directly from Google and the verizon bloatware is a nonissue (just Hide it and you'll never have to worry about it again). If you're worried about battery life just turn off LTE and enjoy great battery life.
Pros? Verizon has *much* better coverage than T-Mobile and LTE is much faster.

but because of the "only 2" verizon apps, are the updates going to come directly from google or do we have to wait for verizon to release it with there "only 2" bloatware apps

The android updates come straight from el goog, the apps should update via the market and not from the rom.
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Sure LTE eats more but that is the price to pay for speed

buy the lte nexus and the extended battery. sell the gsm version and be on your way. =)

4Pr3mier said:
buy the lte nexus and the extended battery. sell the gsm version and be on your way. =)
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That's exactly what I did

Gsm forever ... Need for international travel
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kirdroid said:
Gsm forever ... Need for international travel
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agreed
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No....simple as that
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Keep the GSM unlocked GNex and don't buy the Verizon CDMA version that won't allow you to use a sim card from anywhere else. I also have a Skyrocket and it has LTE on AT&T and I really don't notice the difference in speeds from HSDPA+ on the GNex and LTE on the Skyrocket.
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hotleadsingerguy said:
Well updates *do* come directly from Google and the verizon bloatware is a nonissue (just Hide it and you'll never have to worry about it again). If you're worried about battery life just turn off LTE and enjoy great battery life.
Pros? Verizon has *much* better coverage than T-Mobile and LTE is much faster.
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If you turn off LTE, 1st you loose signal for a minute or so, 2nd you loose data + cell phone use together, and 3rd you are now stuck on slow CDMA that tops at 500kbps-1.5mbps near Boston area where Tmobile 3G is 2.5-5.5mbps and Tmobile 4G even faster
Now that a buddy whats to buy my Nexus One and HD2 for $500 bucks shipped, I am still thinking about switching to Verizon and get Nexus for $150 or pay $550 for GSM version.

kolyan said:
If you turn off LTE, 1st you loose signal for a minute or so, 2nd you loose data + cell phone use together, and 3rd you are now stuck on slow CDMA that tops at 500kbps-1.5mbps near Boston area where Tmobile 3G is 2.5-5.5mbps and Tmobile 4G even faster
Now that a buddy whats to buy my Nexus One and HD2 for $500 bucks shipped, I am still thinking about switching to Verizon and get Nexus for $150 or pay $550 for GSM version.
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N1 + HD2 for $500?? Heh that's awesome! I have one of each sitting around gathering dust, does he want to buy mine too?

my past experience told me, CDMA is not as good as GSM, why? if your phone decided to sync your email or FB, you won't recieve your phone calls whatsoever.

kolyan said:
If you turn off LTE, 1st you loose signal for a minute or so, 2nd you loose data + cell phone use together, and 3rd you are now stuck on slow CDMA that tops at 500kbps-1.5mbps near Boston area where Tmobile 3G is 2.5-5.5mbps and Tmobile 4G even faster
Now that a buddy whats to buy my Nexus One and HD2 for $500 bucks shipped, I am still thinking about switching to Verizon and get Nexus for $150 or pay $550 for GSM version.
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You can use voice and data at the same time on 3G due to eHRPD.. or that's how it was on the thunderbolt at least.
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Lancez said:
my past experience told me, CDMA is not as good as GSM, why? if your phone decided to sync your email or FB, you won't recieve your phone calls whatsoever.
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What? This has never been the case. CDMA phones always have 1x to fall back onto. You just can't use EVDO (3G) while on the phone because the phone defaults to 1x while you are on a call.
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the7thson said:
N1 + HD2 for $500?? Heh that's awesome! I have one of each sitting around gathering dust, does he want to buy mine too?
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lol.....i already forgot all about Galaxy Nexus...and today my buddy tells me this. its gonna me 450 + 50 to ship.
Lancez said:
my past experience told me, CDMA is not as good as GSM, why? if your phone decided to sync your email or FB, you won't recieve your phone calls whatsoever.
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I thought voice has priority over data on CDMA, no ? maybe thats why 2 of my friends told me that many of verizon calls go straight to voice mail ....

I switched from T-Mobile to Verizon and never looked back. Verizon's coverage blows away T-Mo's, and LTE is real 4G with real 4G speeds. And why worry about updates? This is a Nexus with all of the development that brings with it. I don't know why you'd ever be on a stock ROM.
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my past experience told me, CDMA is not as good as GSM, why? if your phone decided to sync your email or FB, you won't recieve your phone calls whatsoever.
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Simultaneous voice and data on LTE, plus voice takes priority anyways.

tk123456789 said:
I really don't notice the difference in speeds from HSDPA+ on the GNex and LTE on the Skyrocket.
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I can't speak on ATT LTE but Verizon LTE is amazingly fast. I see speeds of 42 down max and 20 down during peak hours.
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kolyan said:
If you turn off LTE, 1st you loose signal for a minute or so, 2nd you loose data + cell phone use together, and 3rd you are now stuck on slow CDMA that tops at 500kbps-1.5mbps near Boston area where Tmobile 3G is 2.5-5.5mbps and Tmobile 4G even faster
Now that a buddy whats to buy my Nexus One and HD2 for $500 bucks shipped, I am still thinking about switching to Verizon and get Nexus for $150 or pay $550 for GSM version.
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Where are you finding the Galaxy Nexus at for $550.00 every where I look it is way over $600.00 or more, I would like to find a reliable seller that has it for $550.00!!!

Note2 or note2 lte

Which model you pfefer if you had the choice
Note 2 7100 3g
Note 2 7105 lte
As lte in uk is only I 16 cities
Wouod you have any advantage oc buying the lte model if you were 9n 3v network for ghe time being and when lte is availabke in youf area yiu can ssitch to lte
Any comments from people who have bought lte ha dset in uk
Thanks

I'm in London and I went for the LTE version. I'm not going to use 4G for a while but I picked the LTE version for the added resale value.
Plus T-Mo told me they didn't carry the 3G version at all so I either upgrade to the N7105 (LTE version) or pick a different phone.
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KCA. said:
I'm in London and I went for the LTE version. I'm not going to use 4G for a while but I picked the LTE version for the added resale value.
Plus T-Mo told me they didn't carry the 3G version at all so I either upgrade to the N7105 (LTE version) or pick a different phone.
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How is the battery life
Is there any speed diff wh4n you download over the 3g network
Ive read the download speed is faster on the n7105 which is lte variant of note
Can some one confirm the advanfages and dis advantages of getting note 2 lte n7105
Want to get one but confused
Note2 7100 or note2 7105 lte variant
Thanks

me too
KCA. said:
I'm in London and I went for the LTE version. I'm not going to use 4G for a while but I picked the LTE version for the added resale value.
Plus T-Mo told me they didn't carry the 3G version at all so I either upgrade to the N7105 (LTE version) or pick a different phone.
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I had to do the same and phone is rocking

The choice is really easy for me, as my country doesn't have 4G. So the 7105 would be a waste.

I got my N7100 on launch day and I love it.
If I had the choice to get the LTE version. I would have. Since LTE cell service wasn't available on launch day, it doesn't mean the service won't be there in the coming months or next year.
It would make sense to have a future proof phone, and also for resale value when LTE service becomes more mainstream in the UK.
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The 3G speeds would be the same. The LTE version would only be faster it it were actually connected to and using 4G. If you were to put a N7100 & an N7105 side-by-side, both only using 3G,the speeds should be identical.
As for battery life, it will get you through a day and a half easily on moderate to heavy usage (couple of hours of browsing, phone calls, IM, music, etc)
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KCA. said:
The 3G speeds would be the same. The LTE version would only be faster it it were actually connected to and using 4G. If you were to put a N7100 & an N7105 side-by-side, both only using 3G,the speeds should be identical.
As for battery life, it will get you through a day and a half easily on moderate to heavy usage (couple of hours of browsing, phone calls, IM, music, etc)
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I believe the LTE version is also dc hsdpa too, so will get better 3G speeds on compatible networks
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Tomo1971 said:
I believe the LTE version is also dc hsdpa too, so will get better 3G speeds on compatible networks
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Oh ok, well there you go.
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KCA. said:
I'm in London and I went for the LTE version. I'm not going to use 4G for a while but I picked the LTE version for the added resale value.
Plus T-Mo told me they didn't carry the 3G version at all so I either upgrade to the N7105 (LTE version) or pick a different phone.
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Do you have a FM radio? The spec sheet on the Orange UK website says yes but I read that there is no FM radio on UK LTE version.
Thanks.

AaronUK said:
Do you have a FM radio? The spec sheet on the Orange UK website says yes but I read that there is no FM radio on UK LTE version.
Thanks.
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I've just gone through my apps and I don't have an FM radio. I don't recall seeing the words "FM Radio" or seeing an icon in the app drawer at any point since I got the phone though I have to say, but that doesn't necessarily mean it didn't come with one. It may be one of the system apps I deleted without thinking.. Sorry
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MohJee said:
The choice is really easy for me, as my country doesn't have 4G. So the 7105 would be a waste.
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Me too.. LTE not yet available on my Country...

jauhari said:
Me too.. LTE not yet available on my Country...
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I thought indonesia is releasing N7105 instead of n7100?
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T-Mobile scam exposed "galaxy s3 not compatible with LTE"

T-mobile is pretty evil in my opinion. The galaxy s3 should get the liability to be able to connect to LTE on their network. It isn't fair that they removed LTE capability via a software update. Proof; appleandroidguide on YouTube, watch the first video and you will see

I buy my phones based on what they can do the day I buy them, not what may happen in the future. It would be nice to have the LTE option but I never really expected it despite the promises made by sales staff and customer service. I will go buy a full blown LTE phone if I feel the need.

Sorry but your wrong, the only phone T-Mobile has for sale that has the LTE capabilities is the Note II because its exactly the same as the AT&T version. If you open it up you will find out that the phone may have an LTE radio but no antenna, like the Nexus 4. And really you should but your phone on what you can do now, not down the road.
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Another one of these threads? Really?
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Thetenthdr said:
Another one of these threads? Really?
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Yup. Loan him your Tardis so he can go back in time to unbuy the T-mobile Galaxy S3.

Omg my porn loads instantly on hspa, how much faster can lte really be? By the time lte gets to the smaller markets most of us will have moved on anyway
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My Netflix and games and downloads and everything run just fine on HSDPA+ and along with the lte upgrade, HSDPA+ will also receive an upgrade. I'd rather keep my H+ phone which will hey better battery life than LTE....
You gotta ask yourself... Do you really need it?
And if you do ( for reasons such as deeper penetration into buildings so you actually get 4g where you live or work or whatever..not just for faster 4g) then sell your s3 and buy an lte s3 or s4.
Your s3 was launched a year ago..that's a long time in technology. Get over it.
Its like buying a new car then complaining a year later that the newer model has more horsepower and better mpg.
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bfranklin1986 said:
Omg my porn loads instantly on hspa, how much faster can lte really be? By the time lte gets to the smaller markets most of us will have moved on anyway
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Its more about coverage. Eff ya porn
??Really??
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Yudichh said:
T-mobile is pretty evil in my opinion. The galaxy s3 should get the liability to be able to connect to LTE on their network. It isn't fair that they removed LTE capability via a software update. Proof; appleandroidguide on YouTube, watch the first video and you will see
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Okay how is it a scam? If you bought the phone when it came out(1yr ago) Tmobile wasn't even hinting at lte. You bought the phone with an understanding of what it was capable of. Most people aren't xda people. They don't go on forums and check out detailed specs sheets and breakdowns inquiring about possibilities of a phones hardware. Sometimes I think its a curse to have such knowledge as we know more than the Tmobile reps or any carrier reps do. The xda community is a minority. They aren't going to change anything for us. They know if people want stuff bad enough they will either leave, pay , or stay where they are at. Tmobile will not bend for you or anyone. You know how hard it was for me to get credit from them for something they did (680++$$) ??? Over a week on the phone.
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Just Ranting but here !!
Come on guys Really ? Technogoloy changes so fast these days no and keep up unless you have deep pockets filled with money and still while your standing there while to pay for it a something newer faster nicer sweeter will come a few days after you buy it. This is the name of technology sales my friends. I get HSDPA+ . Sprint pushes out Samsung S3 to people telling them “ Oh it 4G and LTE soon” in the NYC area but out side of the 2-5 miles you may get 3G that’s is it sometimes and another times crap. These carriers for there not for you but for your $$$$. So that’s why I buy my T-mobile phone based on what they can do and for how long. The very fact that you can pull out the sim card and just drop it in a other T-mobile just is a plus. Is this not why we are here because after we Root our phone and we come here for what they don’t give us?

You may enjoy the speed now but think about internetwork operability and the plans to launch voice over LTE via VoIP-based technology and its a no brainer that its something you want.
Keep in mind, it may take entirely new radio technology to take advantage of VoLTE so buying an LTE phone may already be outdated by this year which, besides economic factors, is why I'm waiting to see what happens in 3Q and 4Q
http://www.extremetech.com/tag/volte

If I remember correctly, the T999 gs3 doesn't even have an LTE chip in the phone. That's what tmobile is releasing the T999L that INCLUDES the LTE radio. The OP is an idiot, and if idiots dont wanna take the time to research and learn about stuff, then they deserve every bad thing that happens.

It does have the lte chip but it isn't activated and won't be because they went a different way with lte bands.
http://m.computerworld.com/s/articl...phones_won_t_work_with_T_Mobile_s_LTE_network
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I'm with Videotron carrier in Canada, I have the T999v (v only for videotron, stupid ahah) and I have a fully working LTE network. Our device have the same hardware so T999 IS compatible LTE only T-Mobile popping bad excuse to dont offert it.

I guess I don't understand what the fuss is. When this phone came out for Tmo LTE was not even confirmed. Knowing this, and the fact that absolutely nothing has changed in terms of what has been said about this phone from either Tmo or Samsung about this phone having lte capabilities, there is no scam. We can wish that it was built with the compatible hardware, but the bottom line is that things could be worse, we could be stuck on sprint...
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Steve5400 said:
I guess I don't understand what the fuss is. When this phone came out for Tmo LTE was not even confirmed. Knowing this, and the fact that absolutely nothing has changed in terms of what has been said about this phone from either Tmo or Samsung about this phone having lte capabilities, there is no scam. We can wish that it was built with the compatible hardware, but the bottom line is that things could be worse, we could be stuck on sprint...
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where I would disagree is in your statement about nothing has changed. I too was told multiple times before buying the phone towards the end of the year that it was lte ready and would get it once it came out.

The phone has an LTE amplifier for 700mhz and 1700mhz bands but no modem is mentioned. I would be curious to see a teardown of the V model... Its supposed to be identical to T-Mobile from what I understand...

So it has the lte radio but not the correct one? I been reading different threads on this figuring out if i was gonna get one but don't know if i want to. What lte bands does TMobile use

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The phone has an LTE amplifier for 700mhz and 1700mhz bands but no modem is mentioned. I would be curious to see a teardown of the V model... Its supposed to be identical to T-Mobile from what I understand...
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Yes, at least they say me that but i can confirm that i've already had and 27 mbts bench on Speed test on my S3

My note II drops LTE while in a call

So whenever I'm in a call on my T-Mobile Note II, it drops LTE and drops to HSPA, is there any reason for this? I was under the assumption that the Note II can do SVLTE

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The T-Mobile note II doesn't have its own dedicated LTE antenna like basic sy every other phone besides the iPhone 5? Why did Samsung choose to make the Note II like this and why cant I find anything on the internet about it? Seems this should be as easy to find out as the I phone's flaw with LTE. But again, why did Samsung choose to make it this way? Especially when ALL of their other LTE phones support SVLTE?

Oh, and what's your source? I'd like to read up on this not-so-publicised flaw.

You do realize every other LTE device right now drops to either HSPA or CDMA while utilizing voice functions? I have had many, many LTE devices and can verify this.
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You do realize every other LTE device right now drops to either HSPA or CDMA while utilizing voice functions? I have had many, many LTE devices and can verify this.
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My Verizon Galaxy Nexus, DROID RAZR M, HTC Rezound and, HTC Thunderbolt, all did SVLTE. The iPhone 5 is the only device where the internet made it well known that it is incapable of doing SVLTE because the vast majority of devices devices are capable of it. I mean, if most weren't, then no one would've made a big deal about the iPhone 5 not doing it. Cause that would be hypocritical.

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My Verizon Galaxy Nexus, DROID RAZR M, HTC Rezound and, HTC Thunderbolt, all did SVLTE. The iPhone 5 is the only device where the internet made it well known that it is incapable of doing SVLTE because the vast majority of devices devices are capable of it. I mean, if most weren't, then no one would've made a big deal about the iPhone 5 not doing it. Cause that would be hypocritical.
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Seeing how Verizon does not have voice over LTE, and as far as I know, no one does since the only way to implement it is extremely costly right now, i highly doubt you had voice over LTE. Your Verizon phones used voice over cdma, and data over LTE, allowing both at the same time. This is why LTE sucks your battery dry on Verizon. It is running two radios at once. Since LTE is an evolution of gsm there is no need for two radios and so you see better battery life at a loss of LTE data while in call.
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Seeing how Verizon does not have voice over LTE, and as far as I know, no one does since the only way to implement it is extremely costly right now, i highly doubt you had voice over LTE. Your Verizon phones used voice over cdma, and data over LTE, allowing both at the same time. This is why LTE sucks your battery dry on Verizon. It is running two radios at once. Since LTE is an evolution of gsm there is no need for two radios and so you see better battery life at a loss of LTE data while in call.
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I said SVLTE, not VOLTE. SVLTE is Simultaneous Voice + LTE while VoLTE is Voice-over LTE.
And on GSM phones that have LTE, they run 2 radios as well. One for LTE or HSPA and one for GSM. As you said, no one is using VoLTE yet. And our GSM/LTE phones need to maintain a connection to GSM even when connected to LTE so that we can still make calls and send/recieve texts.

Theres your proof bud. Just because it isnt what you want to hear doesnt mean its not the reality of the situation.
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I said SVLTE, not VOLTE. SVLTE is Simultaneous Voice + LTE while VoLTE is Voice-over LTE.
And on GSM phones that have LTE, they run 2 radios as well. One for LTE or HSPA and one for GSM. As you said, no one is using VoLTE yet. And our GSM/LTE phones need to maintain a connection to GSM even when connected to LTE so that we can still make calls and send/recieve texts.
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Okay to be honest I'm not 100% sure about the number of radios, fairly certain (~75%) only one radio is needed (the 7105 based note 2s have 2 radios, the dormant SoC radio and the GSM/HSPA/LTE radio). I do know you don't drop to GSM for calls, you drop to UMTS otherwise known as WCDMA and can hand off to GSM if needed.
There are plenty of areas with no GSM coverage but have UMTS/HSPA coverage. All these radios are evolutions of GSM and can have VoWHATEVER just no one has done VoLTE or VoHSPA, except T-Mobile has rolled out VoHSPA since the beginning of this year).
This is why your battery will take a hit on HSPA or LTE but not nearly as much as on a CDMA phone.
You are right in that most applications (barring tmobile now) use circuit switched GSM/UMTS for voice, not packet switched UMTS/HSPA/LTE.
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_Dennis_ said:
Okay to be honest I'm not 100% sure about the number of radios, fairly certain (~75%) only one radio is needed (the 7105 based note 2s have 2 radios, the dormant SoC radio and the GSM/HSPA/LTE radio). I do know you don't drop to GSM for calls, you drop to UMTS otherwise known as WCDMA and can hand off to GSM if needed.
There are plenty of areas with no GSM coverage but have UMTS/HSPA coverage. All these radios are evolutions of GSM and can have VoWHATEVER just no one has done VoLTE or VoHSPA, except T-Mobile has rolled out VoHSPA since the beginning of this year).
This is why your battery will take a hit on HSPA or LTE but not nearly as much as on a CDMA phone.
You are right in that most applications (barring tmobile now) use circuit switched GSM/UMTS for voice, not packet switched UMTS/HSPA/LTE.
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Oh I can tell my battery takes a hit on LTE! Much more than when I was on Verizon! I just attributed it to the weak signal though.
But you're saying most LTE/GSM phones fall back to HSPA if they were on LTE? I didn't know that. Please excuse my ignorance

Sending Note to Buddy Overseas

Hello all. Been a long while since I've been on the forums. I've got a VZW Note 10+ (SM-N975U) that I just paid off through my carrier. However I'm going to be switching me and my family to ATT solely for better coverage reasons and a buddy of mine needs a new phone bad. I've thought it upon myself to send my Note to him however I'm not 100% sure how good the lte functionality would be for him.
He says right now in his area the only bands they honestly support are 900/1800/2400 for the 4G LTE handle. I wasn't able to find much for the LTE handles this one specifically supports which is why I'm making this post. Would my phone be compatible if I had sent it to him.?
I can send whatever screenshots necessary, this is just something that's new to me
Thanks all
-ElmoRapz

Where is he at?
I've had no problems using Verizon 4G LTE phones in both Okinawa and Japan.

gernerttl said:
Where is he at?
I've had no problems using Verizon 4G LTE phones in both Okinawa and Japan.
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He's over by Yelverton UK

It should work. He should be able to pop in a SIM from a local provider access get LTE.