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hi everyone:
I have been looking via numerous thread online on many Android forums especially here and have been unsuccessful for the past 2 days now. So I figured I would need to create a thread and finally give in and ask for some help. I have a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy 3 phone and I need to unlock it so that it will work on my AT&T service. Now i understand about rooting the phone and being able to play with themes etc, but its not that great if I can't use the phone itself.
Now without coming up with some kind of answer I must have watched about 40 youtube video's hoping to find out some kind of information. Mostly what I got out of it was numerous website that offer unlocking for phones at a certain price.
unlockcodesource(.)com
unlock2go(.)com
mobileunlockcodes(.)co.uk
Has anyone ever used any of these website or can someone give me some good advise on how I can get this phone unlocked please/
~Aqua
I think the toolkit stickied in the development forum has an option to SIM unlock the GS3. I have not tried this, and do not know if it works, but if the option is there, you might want to give it a shot.
If you're on contract with t mobile and your account is in good standing with them. Call them tell them you're going over seas and need to unlock your phone so you can use it. They will send you unlock code ... then pop in an att sim card and it will prompt you to enter the unlock code t Mobil gave you. Done
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Crisisx1 said:
If you're on contract with t mobile and your account is in good standing with them. Call them tell them you're going over seas and need to unlock your phone so you can use it. They will send you unlock code ... then pop in an att sim card and it will prompt you to enter the unlock code t Mobil gave you. Done
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OK thank you. I followed your instructions and they said it would take up to maybe 24 hrs for the phone to be unlocked. If it isn't unlocked than she said to call back with the conformation number she gave me. If that doesn't work than they would have to give Samsung my info and could take up to 14 days. She said when you buy phones almost all stands and corp stores have already unlocked phones.
she also said it would be auto unlocked for good. Can they lock the phone back up once it is be unlocked?
~Aqua
edited: Once I have it unlocked ( if all goes good ) do i use the same APN settings that I needed to put into the phone in order for my phone to work on the AT&T network as I did with my S2 that I got unlocked ?
Don't they use different frequencies for HSPA+
You would be relegated to edge speeds, correct me if I'm wrong
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five40 said:
Don't they use different frequencies for HSPA+
You would be relegated to edge speeds, correct me if I'm wrong
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I really don't know. That would be a great question if someone would be nice enough to help me with this information? Again i have a T mobile S3 hopefully its unlocked would I be losing speeds by being on the AT&T network?
thanks
~Aqua
AquaWater said:
I really don't know. That would be a great question if someone would be nice enough to help me with this information? Again i have a T mobile S3 hopefully its unlocked would I be losing speeds by being on the AT&T network?
thanks
~Aqua
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The T-Mobile S3 has the 850/1900 3G bands so it will work on AT&T's 3G network. It will not get LTE though.
You can unlock either by paying for a code from the various resellers online or requesting an unlock code from T-Mobile if you have an account in good standing with them. If you can't get the code from T-Mobile I suggest searching 'T999 unlock' on eBay and you'll find some good options.
The tmobile galaxy s3 will work on the ATnT HSPA+21 frequency. Same frequency the International version runs on for that network.
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Edge network and 3/4G Question
I found an excellent place so far on eBay for buying unlock codes. they have almost 3800 sells with a 99% positive feedback. Great customer service. The guy answered numerous questions of mine and made sure i did everything correctly. Payment was $24.95 US, so hopefullly everything will go good.
He was talking about being on something called an " Edge " network which is a little slower, but he said you won't notice a difference between your unlocked S2 and the unlocked S3 now. Right now my S2 says I have 3G service when I use it. I dont understand how i had a inspire4G, what is the 4G for if AT&T only gives you 3G service? And where I am in United States I should have 4G service no matter what. I'm confused on that.,
AquaWater said:
I found an excellent place so far on eBay for buying unlock codes. they have almost 3800 sells with a 99% positive feedback. Great customer service. The guy answered numerous questions of mine and made sure i did everything correctly. Payment was $24.95 US, so hopefullly everything will go good.
He was talking about being on something called an " Edge " network which is a little slower, but he said you won't notice a difference between your unlocked S2 and the unlocked S3 now. Right now my S2 says I have 3G service when I use it. I dont understand how i had a inspire4G, what is the 4G for if AT&T only gives you 3G service? And where I am in United States I should have 4G service no matter what. I'm confused on that.,
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Edge is 2G speeds, which are substantially slower than 3G speeds. IMHO, 3G speeds are livable, 2G/Edge is not.
Different phones have different radios which work on different frequencies. Some phones are not compatible with other services at all, and some will work on other carriers but often not at optimal speeds.
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Edge is 2G speeds, which are substantially slower than 3G speeds. IMHO, 3G speeds are livable, 2G/Edge is not.
Different phones have different radios which work on different frequencies. Some phones are not compatible with other services at all, and some will work on other carriers but often not at optimal speeds.
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So than why would someone suggest that I would get "edge" instead of what i have now? I'm getting 3G now with my T-Mobile S2 unlocked on AT&T, but now I'm going to have an unlocked S3, why wouldn't it be the same?
Because the radios in the devices are different.
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So than why would someone suggest that I would get "edge" instead of what i have now?
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Because he/she doesn't know what he/she is talking about. You will be fine with a T-Mobile S3 on AT&T.
That's what I said earlier in not so many words.
Voice willl work fine you will not see HSPA+ speeds on At&t with a T-Mobile Galaxy SIII.
If the T-Mobile SIII has the hardware capability to support the At&t HSPA+ bands you would need modified radio software to unlock this ability.
I believe this was done on the Galaxy Note to tun on T-Mobile HSPA+ network before it was officially launched on T-Mobile.
kmdub I believe your the one that's wrong.
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That's what I said earlier in not so many words.
Voice willl work fine you will not see HSPA+ speeds on At&t with a T-Mobile Galaxy SIII.
If the T-Mobile SIII has the hardware capability to support the At&t HSPA+ bands you would need modified radio software to unlock this ability.
I believe this was done on the Galaxy Note to tun on T-Mobile HSPA+ network before it was officially launched on T-Mobile.
kmdub I believe your the one that's wrong.
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I unlocked my t999 and am using an att straight talk sim getting HSPA speeds. Going to switch back to tmobile prepay because it is way faster than att HSPA with better latency. Although coverage may be lacking, i may just switch to an att ST sim.
To answer your question, a Tmobile S3 will work on ATT HSPA+ network with the HSPA+ Speeds of up to 6-7mbps in NYC area. The average I've been getting is around 2-3.5 mbps. With the tmobile prepay sim I have, it's usually around 2-18mbps down in NYC area.
The T-mobile S3 will not work on the ATT LTE network because it lacks that radio (or so they say for now); there have been other threads suspecting it's just a matter of flashing the right radio to "turn on" the ATT LTE radio. However, if all you want is HSPA+ speeds, rest assured it will work fine.
The ATT S3 is lacking the AWS bands for TMobile so it will not get the HSPA+ on Tmobile.
Best regards.
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First off, I would like to thank everyone who has been helping me along with my issues with my phone. I appreciate it a lot and I'm picking up more knowledge more and more everyday from you guys and reading heavily on the forums.
if the hardware in the phone doesn't support HSPA+ 1) will i have to root the phone and 2) change the radio? And 3 ) if I change the radio does that mean I would need to install a custom ROM i order for it to work properly?
Also, from one of the post they said "The T-Mobile S3 has the 850/1900 3G bands " - of that is true will than I should be able to have the 3G speeds correct?
I really hope I am not making some people angry, I'm new to this and trying my hardest to understand everything so I don't make mistakes. Please bare with me. Again, thank you so much everyone who has contributed so far. I still have a lot to learn. The reason why is because I just don't want it to work ( I do, want it to work ) but I want to understand why everything is working they way it is and I've over the past almost month have been picking up a lot of knowledge. Can't wait to hear from you guys
kmdub I believe your the one that's wrong.
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No, actually, you are wrong. The T-Mobile S3 does not need any modification to work properly on AT&T's HSPA network. Seems you are confusing something else with frequency. Quit spreading bad information.
OP: Don't worry about it. Some are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. As said before, if you have the T999, you will be fine on AT&T's HSPA network without any modifications (other than an account...lol). Just get the phone SIM-unlocked, pop in the right SIM, you are good to go. Seriously, it is that easy.
Well there it is, I stand corrected!
I had no idea the T-Mobile SIII supports At&t HSPA+ bands.
Is the same true to all T-Mobile HSPA+ phones?
Sorry for any issues, just learning
Hi everyone,
thanks so much for the info. Will the S2 I needed to put in certain APN settings inorder to receive MMS ( picture ) via texts. Do i use the same settings for the Samsung Galaxy 3?
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No, actually, you are wrong. The T-Mobile S3 does not need any modification to work properly on AT&T's HSPA network. Seems you are confusing something else with frequency. Quit spreading bad information.
OP: Don't worry about it. Some are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. As said before, if you have the T999, you will be fine on AT&T's HSPA network without any modifications (other than an account...lol). Just get the phone SIM-unlocked, pop in the right SIM, you are good to go. Seriously, it is that easy.
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I too have learned from this thread
My wife and I are considering taking our tmobile phones over to AT&T. There both unlocked... Note 2 & sg3. Question I have is would I have to flash AT&T modems and roms to be able to fully utilize the new network? Just don't want to end up with bricks. AT&T already told me both devices unlocked will work fine on the network.
Wat I'm asking is if I can utilize the lte on the t-889 if I put it on AT&T? I found a bunch of threads with mixed responses.
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My wife and I are considering taking our tmobile phones over to AT&T. There both unlocked... Note 2 & sg3. Question I have is would I have to flash AT&T modems and roms to be able to fully utilize the new network? Just don't want to end up with bricks. AT&T already told me both devices unlocked will work fine on the network.
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It should work fine but the only problem is you wont have LTE
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It should work fine but the only problem is you wont have LTE
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Why's that? AT&T says I will be able to use lte since my area has it. If not I probably won't do this. As I've said I've read mixed responses. Could I flash AT&T radios to utilize it?
It will give you weak service because att and t mobile run on different bands which is hardware related not software
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Android The Greek said:
It will give you weak service because att and t mobile run on different bands which is hardware related not software
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I dunno about that as many said everything works but LTE. I have also read a few that says they have LTE enabled. That's what's confusing. I may go to AT&T tomorrow and have them test a sim before I decide to switch. I assume if I change to AT&T apn ill get better 4g speed at least. The limitation your speaking to its a locked radio for the t-889 that prevents LTE from being enabled currently.
I can't quickly tell, but if it has LTE support on band 17 (700MHz) then it will work. It's a T-Mobile phone so it has support on band 4 which AT&T only uses for a very small part of its LTE network.
Like you said the radio it comes with might be locked to not allow LTE. If you can flash an AT&T radio without issue then you'd be able to see if it works.
If I were to guess I'd say it would have the right band since it's basically the same phone that AT&T sells.
Does it at least get hspa+ and 3G? I can wait for lte.
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Does it at least get hspa+ and 3G? I can wait for lte.
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It should. Just put an AT&T SIM in and see.
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It should. Just put an AT&T SIM in and see.
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I'll be going to AT&T tomorrow to test before I switch carriers.
fix-this! said:
Why's that? AT&T says I will be able to use lte since my area has it. If not I probably won't do this. As I've said I've read mixed responses. Could I flash AT&T radios to utilize it?
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The AT&T rep you spoke to definitely isnt informed on the hardware issue.
If you are switching over you should just sell those two phones you have and just buy new ones since its new activation Im sure you can get a good price on the phones
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The AT&T rep you spoke to definitely isnt informed on the hardware issue.
If you are switching over you should just sell those two phones you have and just buy new ones since its new activation Im sure you can get a good price on the phones
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From what I understand its not hardware, it's because of a radio limitation currently. Lte isn't enabled yet on the t-889. That's why I asked if I could flash a AT&T radio. As long as I get 4g and 3G ill switch. The whole point was to save $$ on buying new devices.
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From what I understand its not hardware, it's because of a radio limitation currently. Lte isn't enabled yet on the t-889. That's why I asked if I could flash a AT&T radio. As long as I get 4g and 3G ill switch. The whole point was to save $$ on buying new devices.
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Well please understand it's hardware. Been that way forever
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brandonarev said:
Well please understand it's hardware. Been that way forever
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Well as long as I get 3G and decent hspa+ speeds ill be happy. I'll be getting the s4 anyways when it comes out. I don't have lte anyways with tmobile lol.
I know that the P605 will not work with LTE. However I can confirm that my straight talk Sim card works and I am getting HSPA+ (ATT Straight Talk Card) Here is my situation. I purchased a sim car from AT&T and activated it on the Gophone plan.. $35 per month for 500 minutes and unlimited text and data. For some reason no matter what APN I put in I don't get any data. I got data the first night I set it up and now I get no data. I have a International Version of the Galaxy S4 running with a GoPhone dumb phone $50 per month unlimited everything. (AT&T system does not recognize the IMEI so it reverts it to a dumb phone). Why isn't it working for my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014. I figure $35 bucks isn't a bad deal. Please assist or am I dead in the water.
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I know that the P605 will not work with LTE. However I can confirm that my straight talk Sim card works and I am getting HSPA+ (ATT Straight Talk Card) Here is my situation. I purchased a sim car from AT&T and activated it on the Gophone plan.. $35 per month for 500 minutes and unlimited text and data. For some reason no matter what APN I put in I don't get any data. I got data the first night I set it up and now I get no data. I have a International Version of the Galaxy S4 running with a GoPhone dumb phone $50 per month unlimited everything. (AT&T system does not recognize the IMEI so it reverts it to a dumb phone). Why isn't it working for my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014. I figure $35 bucks isn't a bad deal. Please assist or am I dead in the water.
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I also have a P605, and I've been trying to get connected via Red Pocket Mobile, an AT&T MVNO, but I haven't had much luck. However, my issues are with Red Pocket's terrible customer service, and trying to get their smallest data plan (1GB for $10) connected to the sim card (that it took them 2 weeks to send).
I've read about a T-Mobile $30/month plan for BYOD devices that I will test out, once I get the sim card from them (currently backordered)...My device had a USA T-Mobile profile already present in the APN settings, I'm hoping it will work!
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marshwc said:
I also have a P605, and I've been trying to get connected via Red Pocket Mobile, an AT&T MVNO, but I haven't had much luck. However, my issues are with Red Pocket's terrible customer service, and trying to get their smallest data plan (1GB for $10) connected to the sim card (that it took them 2 weeks to send).
I've read about a T-Mobile $30/month plan for BYOD devices that I will test out, once I get the sim card from them (currently backordered)...My device had a USA T-Mobile profile already present in the APN settings, I'm hoping it will work!
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I had that Tmobile plan however my area is not fully framed for the 1900MHZ on tmobile. AT&T works but like I said must be something funky going one. At this point I may send my device back for a refund or sell it. I may just wait for a US carrier to get it. Yeah I know I won't get updates or support from US carriers.........wait damn that........ I will get my money back for this one and just go back to using my wifi version. (gave to my wife but will have to get it back) US carriers really suck when it comes to certain things.
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I had that Tmobile plan however my area is not fully framed for the 1900MHZ on tmobile. AT&T works but like I said must be something funky going one. At this point I may send my device back for a refund or sell it. I may just wait for a US carrier to get it. Yeah I know I won't get updates or support from US carriers.........wait damn that........ I will get my money back for this one and just go back to using my wifi version. (gave to my wife but will have to get it back) US carriers really suck when it comes to certain things.
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Good luck getting your WiFi back from your wife
San Diego should be farmed to 1900 so I'm hoping for decent coverage around town. I faced the same dilemma here, wait or go for it... My old tablet was an Acer A500 so I really needed something (and some people complain about lag on the Note? Ha!).
If you want, I could send you the APN setting Red Pocket lists on their manual setup page, if you think that would help...
Bummer
marshwc said:
Good luck getting your WiFi back from your wife
San Diego should be farmed to 1900 so I'm hoping for decent coverage around town. I faced the same dilemma here, wait or go for it... My old tablet was an Acer A500 so I really needed something (and some people complain about lag on the Note? Ha!).
If you want, I could send you the APN setting Red Pocket lists on their manual setup page, if you think that would help...
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Alas you are correct. Wife won't give up that darn thing. Has passwords on it and all her personal stuff. ARGGGGGG!!!!! NOw what do I do.
alynch75 said:
Alas you are correct. Wife won't give up that darn thing. Has passwords on it and all her personal stuff. ARGGGGGG!!!!! NOw what do I do.
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Sorry... can't help with that
I noticed someone in another thread mentioned they had AT&T working. I can't post links, but in the Original Android Development section, "[RECOVERY] TWRP2.6.3.x TeamWin Recovery Project 12/27" at the top of page 11 there is a message about using AT&T and getting HSPA+ data.
Trying to post a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515656&page=11
Good luck!
I'm expecting my P605 this Friday. I got it from Ebay. I have a TMO on my Note 3, so technically, should my sim card work on my P605 when I try it?
Will the APN seetings on the phone for TMO work on the P605? Thanks guys.
jinda628 said:
I'm expecting my P605 this Friday. I got it from Ebay. I have a TMO on my Note 3, so technically, should my sim card work on my P605 when I try it?
Will the APN seetings on the phone for TMO work on the P605? Thanks guys.
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There shouldn't be any problems using the sim and APN settings. The data rate you will see will depend on your area. If TMO has 'reformed' the edge frequencies to HSPA then you will get decent data. Otherwise you may get stuck with edge...
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There shouldn't be any problems using the sim and APN settings. The data rate you will see will depend on your area. If TMO has 'reformed' the edge frequencies to HSPA then you will get decent data. Otherwise you may get stuck with edge...
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So if I get 30/18 speed in my house and 20/3 more or less at work. *Should I expect to get the same speed when I put my sim in the tablet?
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So if I get 30/18 speed in my house and 20/3 more or less at work. *Should I expect to get the same speed when I put my sim in the tablet?
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If your Note 3 isn't using LTE when it gets those speeds, then 'maybe'. Because the P605 doesn't have a perfect match for US freqs it still may not. I'm not sure where you are located, but if it's in a refarmed area you should (P605 supports HSPA on 1900). Here is the link (hope it goes) for the refarmed areas:
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/coverage/blog/2013/12/17/network-modernization-update
Sorry, I'm just learning all this too, and I can't really give you a definitive answer!
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If your Note 3 isn't using LTE when it gets those speeds, then 'maybe'. Because the P605 doesn't have a perfect match for US freqs it still may not. I'm not sure where you are located, but if it's in a refarmed area you should (P605 supports HSPA on 1900). Here is the link (hope it goes) for the refarmed areas:
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/coverage/blog/2013/12/17/network-modernization-update
Sorry, I'm just learning all this too, and I can't really give you a definitive answer!
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Hey bro you've been a big help. Thanks. I bought the tablet without knowing this issue. Anyway, I get a 4G LTE signal on my Note 3 so I guess that's LTE speed. I'm in Houston, TX and it says in the link you posted that we are one of the modernized market so we'll see.
Has anyone gotten the P605 to work on AT&T
Has anyone gotten this thing to work on the AT&T go Plans?
I need a carrier with a good rate that uses the AT&T network. Previously I would put my international devices on the go phone plan since it sees it in the system as a dumb phone however with this one it won't connect to the data. Gives me a message that I need to add a supported data plan.
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Has anyone gotten this thing to work on the AT&T go Plans?
I need a carrier with a good rate that uses the AT&T network. Previously I would put my international devices on the go phone plan since it sees it in the system as a dumb phone however with this one it won't connect to the data. Gives me a message that I need to add a supported data plan.
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Check out
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2011/02/best-prepaid-data-carriers-and-plans.html
Ok guys. Tried my TMO sim on this note 10.1 and it's only getting hspa+. I run a speedtest and got 11/3 d/u speed.
It's a lot better if I tether my note 3, I'm getting the same speed I get from phone.
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Ok guys. Tried my TMO sim on this note 10.1 and it's only getting hspa+. I run a speedtest and got 11/3 d/u speed.
It's a lot better if I tether my note 3, I'm getting the same speed I get from phone.
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Because the P605 doesn't support LTE in the US frequencies, HSDPA+ is the best you will be able to do. Your note 3 is tuned to use the LTE freqs here.
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Because the P605 doesn't support LTE in the US frequencies, HSDPA+ is the best you will be able to do. Your note 3 is tuned to use the LTE freqs here.
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Yeah I was told about that. I just want to see how big is the difference. Making me think twice about this LTE version but I prefer the Snapdragon over Exynos.
Are all Wifi version on Exynos SOC?
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Yeah I was told about that. I just want to see how big is the difference. Making me think twice about this LTE version but I prefer the Snapdragon over Exynos.
Are all Wifi version on Exynos SOC?
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All WiFi versions are Exynos...
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All WiFi versions are Exynos...
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I see. Thanks.
Maybe thats one reason I'll stick with this LTE version. Maybe someday TMO will utilize the same band. I hope
Since people got their hands on the T-mobile version yesterday I am curious if anyone is using it on AT&T yet?
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I'm interested too... I get mine tomorrow.
As far as I can tell, the Sim card unlocks are not available yet. A few vendors say they should have them going by this week. Hopefully by Friday when my TMo Note 4 arrives.
I was under the impression you could just put your ATT sim in a TMobile phone and off you go. Not true?
There is a guy in the TMo forum that said he found someone who could unlock (~$35) it and he is using it on AT&T currently.
I got my phone on Monday (t mobile version) i unlock it on wend, since then i have been using it but had to call costumer service since i lost lte signal 2 times already, worry that this might be a issue i will see often
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I got my phone on Monday (t mobile version) i unlock it on wend, since then i have been using it but had to call costumer service since i lost lte signal 2 times already, worry that this might be a issue i will see often
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Have you tried a different APN?
I owned both the T-Mobile and AT&T Note 3. I started off with the T-Mobile variant and was never very happy with LTE reception. It would just drop LTE often.
After reading of others on XDA experiencing the same issue, I bought the AT&T version. Immediately, I noticed a big jump in LTE strength. I know the debate still exists to whether or not the AT&T variant has better network tuning specific to AT&T's network. It didn't really matter to me what it was. It was enough of an improvement for me to give up my T-Mobile variant with an unlocked bootloader.
For the Note 4 I'm waiting on some feedback from users with the T-Mobile variant on AT&Ts network. Your post isn't very reassuring.
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Have you tried a different APN?
I owned both the T-Mobile and AT&T Note 3. I started off with the T-Mobile variant and was never very happy with LTE reception. It would just drop LTE often.
After reading of others on XDA experiencing the same issue, I bought the AT&T version. Immediately, I noticed a big jump in LTE strength. I know the debate still exists to whether or not the AT&T variant has better network tuning specific to AT&T's network. It didn't really matter to me what it was. It was enough of an improvement for me to give up my T-Mobile variant with an unlocked bootloader.
For the Note 4 I'm waiting on some feedback from users with the T-Mobile variant on AT&Ts network. Your post isn't very reassuring.
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But it doesn't make sense why some never experience the issue
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Have you tried a different APN?
I owned both the T-Mobile and AT&T Note 3. I started off with the T-Mobile variant and was never very happy with LTE reception. It would just drop LTE often.
After reading of others on XDA experiencing the same issue, I bought the AT&T version. Immediately, I noticed a big jump in LTE strength. I know the debate still exists to whether or not the AT&T variant has better network tuning specific to AT&T's network. It didn't really matter to me what it was. It was enough of an improvement for me to give up my T-Mobile variant with an unlocked bootloader.
For the Note 4 I'm waiting on some feedback from users with the T-Mobile variant on AT&Ts network. Your post isn't very reassuring.
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I'm very interested in this info also. I read at a few places that the Tmobile and AT&T versions are going to be very much identical. But who knows...
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Have you tried a different APN?
I owned both the T-Mobile and AT&T Note 3. I started off with the T-Mobile variant and was never very happy with LTE reception. It would just drop LTE often.
After reading of others on XDA experiencing the same issue, I bought the AT&T version. Immediately, I noticed a big jump in LTE strength. I know the debate still exists to whether or not the AT&T variant has better network tuning specific to AT&T's network. It didn't really matter to me what it was. It was enough of an improvement for me to give up my T-Mobile variant with an unlocked bootloader.
For the Note 4 I'm waiting on some feedback from users with the T-Mobile variant on AT&Ts network. Your post isn't very reassuring.
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That's weird indeed.
Note 3 and Note 4 from T-mobile have both been flawless for me on AT&T. I unlocked my Note 4 yesterday, and have zero connectivity issues that I know of. While it may be possible a AT&T branded phone works better on their network, I have no complaints at all. 25Mb/down, 17Mb/up was my last speed test.
Even if there is a slight difference, isn't it worth using the T-mo variant anyway, for the unlocked bootloader and all the extra options that provides?
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That's weird indeed.
Note 3 and Note 4 from T-mobile have both been flawless for me on AT&T. I unlocked my Note 4 yesterday, and have zero connectivity issues that I know of. While it may be possible a AT&T branded phone works better on their network, I have no complaints at all. 25Mb/down, 17Mb/up was my last speed test.
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That sounds promising. What city are you in? and were you able to unlock at the store or did at home over the phone? Thanks.
edouble312 said:
That's weird indeed.
Note 3 and Note 4 from T-mobile have both been flawless for me on AT&T. I unlocked my Note 4 yesterday, and have zero connectivity issues that I know of. While it may be possible a AT&T branded phone works better on their network, I have no complaints at all. 25Mb/down, 17Mb/up was my last speed test.
Even if there is a slight difference, isn't it worth using the T-mo variant anyway, for the unlocked bootloader and all the extra options that provides?
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I agree that the unlocked bootloader is a pretty big deal. Unfortunately the difference in LTE reception in my case warranted selling my T-Mobile version after comparing.
I should have mentioned that both phones were pretty much identical in areas with decent to strong signal. The real difference I noticed was when signal was weaker. My AT&T version simply held the LTE steady when the T-Mobile would constantly switch back and forth. This is not to say that they were not receiving about the same bandwidth.
I am very interested in how the Note 4 does. I'm hoping to see a few more posts tonight about LTE performance before I hit the stores tomorrow to pick up either one based on the feedback from here.
Thanks for letting us know about how your's is handling!
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I agree that the unlocked bootloader is a pretty big deal. Unfortunately the difference in LTE reception in my case warranted selling my T-Mobile version after comparing.
I should have mentioned that both phones were pretty much identical in areas with decent to strong signal. The real difference I noticed was when signal was weaker. My AT&T version simply held the LTE steady when the T-Mobile would constantly switch back and forth. This is not to say that they were not receiving about the same bandwidth.
I am very interested in how the Note 4 does. I'm hoping to see a few more posts tonight about LTE performance before I hit the stores tomorrow to pick up either one based on the feedback from here.
Thanks for letting us know about how your's is handling!
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Well I didn't see any additional posts before heading out to buy it this morning so I took a chance and got the T-Mobile variant. I'll provide feedback on AT&T LTE reception once I get my unlock code.
The wife wants a Note 4 as well so I'm probably going to pick up an AT&T variant and test them both for signal on AT&T's LTE network.
I got the unlock code in just over an hour and I'm up and running on AT&T's LTE!!
I'm pretty happy to report that it appears that the T-Mobile Note 4 is getting outstanding signal at my house and speeds are the same or better than the AT&T Note 3 right next to it.
The real test for me will be at the edge of AT&T LTE reception, which is where I was having issues with my T-Mobile Note 3. I wont know this until I go to work next Monday as my office is the perfect test for this.
Wireless Tether is completely unlocked with the T-Mobile Note 4 on AT&T's network without the requirement to root/mod as it was on the Note 3.
done12many2 said:
I got the unlock code in just over an hour and I'm up and running on AT&T's LTE!!
I'm pretty happy to report that it appears that the T-Mobile Note 4 is getting outstanding signal at my house and speeds are the same or better than the AT&T Note 3 right next to it.
The real test for me will be at the edge of AT&T LTE reception, which is where I was having issues with my T-Mobile Note 3. I wont know this until I go to work next Monday as my office is the perfect test for this.
Wireless Tether is completely unlocked with the T-Mobile Note 4 on AT&T's network without the requirement to root/mod as it was on the Note 3.
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Which service did you use for the unlock?
cellunlocker.net
It seems that they've fixed their issues as some are receiving their codes within minutes.
Yakuzahi said:
Which service did you use for the unlock?
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Hello,
How can you buy no-contract T-mobile Note 4
Thanks
jennyngo24 said:
Hello,
How can you buy no-contract T-mobile Note 4
Thanks
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You need to try, the store I will go to agree to sell it for me with no line.
Yakuzahi said:
You need to try, the store I will go to agree to sell it for me with no line.
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Thank you for your info.
What happened to the law that was just passed for Sim unlocking? TMO should give you an unlock code if you bought it outright.
Well, since the Force is out and the DT2 seems to completely lack dev support and rooting method, I am very seriously considering dumping VZW for TMo. Picked up a prepaid sim from 7-11 to test out tonight.
I live just over the river from NYC in NJ and commute to Bryant Park area daily for work. Will be periodically posting my impressions here. Plan on swapping SIMs for a few day to put TMo thru the ringer before pulling the trigger on an X-Force
So far working completely, both Voice & LTE. Not sure if I am getting VoLTE or true GSM Voice service, as I do not know of a way to test. I have been sitting comfortably on Band 4 for LTE when outside with 4 full bars of service. Inside my apartment, 4g is spotty with TMo (I live in a garden level place, half underground half above in a brownstone), however without band 12 present in the phone, I dont expect blazing or strong 4g signal indoors.
I do however get strong HSPA+ inside which has been pretty fast through basic web browsing and small app downloads.
What has blown me away is the speed of the TMo network, both HSPA and LTE. I took the following speedtests (same spot, swapping sims & letting connection settle). While it is harder to get 4G LTE inside with TMo and no band 12, when I do get it, the speed still BLOWS away VZW
Pic 1 - Verizon Indoor (foyer) - 4G LTE
Pic 2 - T-Mo Indoor (foyer) - HSPA +
Pic 3 - Verizon Outside - 4G LTE
Pic 4 - T-Mo Outside - 4G LTE
Pic 5 - T-Mo Inside front foyer - 4G LTE (verizon speed was same as previous outside pic)
Pic 6 - Verizon Inside on Couch (middle of apt) - 4G LTE
Pic 7 - TMo Inside on Couch (middle of apt) - 4G LTE
Got it from VZW BF promotion, thanks for your post. It does work for AT&T and T-Mobile, not sure for Sprint.
lwang9 said:
Got it from VZW BF promotion, thanks for your post. It does work for AT&T and T-Mobile, not sure for Sprint.
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Have been seeing similar results today while at work in nyc. My desk gets full 4-5 bars of 4g service with TMo. I am on the 8th floor of a brick building. Def thought reception would suck at my desk.
Ive had the same results today at my desk regarding speed tests.
So you had to do no unlocking,it worked out of the box?
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So you had to do no unlocking,it worked out of the box?
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yep, 100% minus band 12. Not sure if band 12 can be unlocked. but has been working pretty sweet out of the box. simple sim swap
You guys think this would soon work with Google fi, now that would be nice . thanks for the info guys nice to know since I am limited to 18GB...
rcmartin57 said:
You guys think this would soon work with Google fi, now that would be nice . thanks for the info guys nice to know since I am limited to 18GB...
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I would think it would work partially... I would check what bands project fi uses
lwang9 said:
Got it from VZW BF promotion, thanks for your post. It does work for AT&T and T-Mobile, not sure for Sprint.
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It'll work on GSM carriers (T-Mobile, AT&T, US Cellular, etc.) but not Sprint since it's a CDMA network. Phones with CDMA radios are allowed onto a CDMA network via a code, and Sprint blocks codes from Verizon phones, and vice versa.
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It'll work on GSM carriers (T-Mobile, AT&T, US Cellular, etc.) but not Sprint since it's a CDMA network. Phones with CDMA radios are allowed onto a CDMA network via a code, and Sprint blocks codes from Verizon phones, and vice versa.
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Current generation iPhone and Nexus work with Sprint and Verizon both.
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Current generation iPhone and Nexus work with Sprint and Verizon both.
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That's because iPhones and Nexuses are unlocked phones by default. The Turbo 2 is a Verizon exclusive that happens to be SIM unlocked, so Sprint isn't going to accept it.
rcmartin57 said:
You guys think this would soon work with Google fi, now that would be nice . thanks for the info guys nice to know since I am limited to 18GB...
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It should work on the T-mo portion of Fi, with no switching to Sprint, obviously. Also no wi-fi calling afaik.
Where do you live? I have yet to see less then 60Mbs on Verizon. Hell I hit over 100 pretty often and stay around 75-80 for the most part.
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Where do you live? I have yet to see less then 60Mbs on Verizon. Hell I hit over 100 pretty often and stay around 75-80 for the most part.
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That is some great speed!!! No I was talking about my data cap of 18gb. I was thinking of getting a side prepaid sim for the extra data.
Please tell me how you did it
how did you get the turbo 2 to work on tmobile?
im in nyc and have turbo 2 on vzw and had an extra one as backup. a buddy in tampa florida using a galaxy s6 regular on tmo kept having issues with his fone. i sent him my backup which is exactly the same im using. he put his sim into the turbo without any problems and works fine. he gets no dropped calls for whatever reason. he thought he would miss his wifi calling but since the fone is better at reception all around he doesnt need the wifi calling and of course he has unlimited data using his Tmo sim and its on LTE . only thing he said he has missed is the turbo 2 doesnt have infrared for his samsuck tv and other controls he could have used via his galaxys infrared. hope this helps.
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how did you get the turbo 2 to work on tmobile?
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All Verizon LTE phones are network unlocked by order of the FCC ever since 2011, 2012. It was an "agreement" Verizon was forced to sign to get more LTE spectrum.
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/09/24/verizon-iphone-5-unlocked/
http://www.verizon.com/about/consumer-safety/device-unlocking-policy
VERIZON: We do not lock our 4G LTE devices, and no code is needed to program them for use with another carrier.
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It's old news. As long as a Verizon phone has the necessary LTE bands, it will work on any other LTE carrier.
Droid Turbo 2 has LTE bands 2,3,4,7,13. T-Mobile uses LTE bands 2,4,12. So, he's getting LTE bands 2,4.
ChazzMatt said:
All Verizon LTE phones are network unlocked by order of the FCC ever since 2011, 2012. It was an "agreement" Verizon was forced to sign to get more LTE spectrum.
It's old news. As long as a Verizon phone has the necessary LTE bands, it will work on any other LTE carrier.
Droid Turbo 2 has LTE bands 2,3,4,7,13. T-Mobile uses LTE bands 2,4,12. So, he's getting LTE bands 2,4.
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I'm assuming this means I could use my droid turbo 2 outside of the US and just swap in a local sim (and use LTE if those countries use 2,3,7 or 13)?
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I'm assuming this means I could use my droid turbo 2 outside of the US and just swap in a local sim (and use LTE if those countries use 2,3,7 or 13)?
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Yes. For countries without those bands you would rely upon HSPA or even GSM.
I'm using mine on Telstra in Australia with no issues. (Droid Turbo 2)
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I'm using mine on Telstra in Australia with no issues. (Droid Turbo 2)
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What LTE bands does your carrier use? Info i found says 1, 3, 7, 8, 28. Droid Turbo 2 had two of those (3, 7), plus HSPA of course.