Well, since the Force is out and the DT2 seems to completely lack dev support and rooting method, I am very seriously considering dumping VZW for TMo. Picked up a prepaid sim from 7-11 to test out tonight.
I live just over the river from NYC in NJ and commute to Bryant Park area daily for work. Will be periodically posting my impressions here. Plan on swapping SIMs for a few day to put TMo thru the ringer before pulling the trigger on an X-Force
So far working completely, both Voice & LTE. Not sure if I am getting VoLTE or true GSM Voice service, as I do not know of a way to test. I have been sitting comfortably on Band 4 for LTE when outside with 4 full bars of service. Inside my apartment, 4g is spotty with TMo (I live in a garden level place, half underground half above in a brownstone), however without band 12 present in the phone, I dont expect blazing or strong 4g signal indoors.
I do however get strong HSPA+ inside which has been pretty fast through basic web browsing and small app downloads.
What has blown me away is the speed of the TMo network, both HSPA and LTE. I took the following speedtests (same spot, swapping sims & letting connection settle). While it is harder to get 4G LTE inside with TMo and no band 12, when I do get it, the speed still BLOWS away VZW
Pic 1 - Verizon Indoor (foyer) - 4G LTE
Pic 2 - T-Mo Indoor (foyer) - HSPA +
Pic 3 - Verizon Outside - 4G LTE
Pic 4 - T-Mo Outside - 4G LTE
Pic 5 - T-Mo Inside front foyer - 4G LTE (verizon speed was same as previous outside pic)
Pic 6 - Verizon Inside on Couch (middle of apt) - 4G LTE
Pic 7 - TMo Inside on Couch (middle of apt) - 4G LTE
Got it from VZW BF promotion, thanks for your post. It does work for AT&T and T-Mobile, not sure for Sprint.
lwang9 said:
Got it from VZW BF promotion, thanks for your post. It does work for AT&T and T-Mobile, not sure for Sprint.
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Have been seeing similar results today while at work in nyc. My desk gets full 4-5 bars of 4g service with TMo. I am on the 8th floor of a brick building. Def thought reception would suck at my desk.
Ive had the same results today at my desk regarding speed tests.
So you had to do no unlocking,it worked out of the box?
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So you had to do no unlocking,it worked out of the box?
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yep, 100% minus band 12. Not sure if band 12 can be unlocked. but has been working pretty sweet out of the box. simple sim swap
You guys think this would soon work with Google fi, now that would be nice . thanks for the info guys nice to know since I am limited to 18GB...
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You guys think this would soon work with Google fi, now that would be nice . thanks for the info guys nice to know since I am limited to 18GB...
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I would think it would work partially... I would check what bands project fi uses
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Got it from VZW BF promotion, thanks for your post. It does work for AT&T and T-Mobile, not sure for Sprint.
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It'll work on GSM carriers (T-Mobile, AT&T, US Cellular, etc.) but not Sprint since it's a CDMA network. Phones with CDMA radios are allowed onto a CDMA network via a code, and Sprint blocks codes from Verizon phones, and vice versa.
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It'll work on GSM carriers (T-Mobile, AT&T, US Cellular, etc.) but not Sprint since it's a CDMA network. Phones with CDMA radios are allowed onto a CDMA network via a code, and Sprint blocks codes from Verizon phones, and vice versa.
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Current generation iPhone and Nexus work with Sprint and Verizon both.
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Current generation iPhone and Nexus work with Sprint and Verizon both.
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That's because iPhones and Nexuses are unlocked phones by default. The Turbo 2 is a Verizon exclusive that happens to be SIM unlocked, so Sprint isn't going to accept it.
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You guys think this would soon work with Google fi, now that would be nice . thanks for the info guys nice to know since I am limited to 18GB...
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It should work on the T-mo portion of Fi, with no switching to Sprint, obviously. Also no wi-fi calling afaik.
Where do you live? I have yet to see less then 60Mbs on Verizon. Hell I hit over 100 pretty often and stay around 75-80 for the most part.
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Where do you live? I have yet to see less then 60Mbs on Verizon. Hell I hit over 100 pretty often and stay around 75-80 for the most part.
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That is some great speed!!! No I was talking about my data cap of 18gb. I was thinking of getting a side prepaid sim for the extra data.
Please tell me how you did it
how did you get the turbo 2 to work on tmobile?
im in nyc and have turbo 2 on vzw and had an extra one as backup. a buddy in tampa florida using a galaxy s6 regular on tmo kept having issues with his fone. i sent him my backup which is exactly the same im using. he put his sim into the turbo without any problems and works fine. he gets no dropped calls for whatever reason. he thought he would miss his wifi calling but since the fone is better at reception all around he doesnt need the wifi calling and of course he has unlimited data using his Tmo sim and its on LTE . only thing he said he has missed is the turbo 2 doesnt have infrared for his samsuck tv and other controls he could have used via his galaxys infrared. hope this helps.
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how did you get the turbo 2 to work on tmobile?
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All Verizon LTE phones are network unlocked by order of the FCC ever since 2011, 2012. It was an "agreement" Verizon was forced to sign to get more LTE spectrum.
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/09/24/verizon-iphone-5-unlocked/
http://www.verizon.com/about/consumer-safety/device-unlocking-policy
VERIZON: We do not lock our 4G LTE devices, and no code is needed to program them for use with another carrier.
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It's old news. As long as a Verizon phone has the necessary LTE bands, it will work on any other LTE carrier.
Droid Turbo 2 has LTE bands 2,3,4,7,13. T-Mobile uses LTE bands 2,4,12. So, he's getting LTE bands 2,4.
ChazzMatt said:
All Verizon LTE phones are network unlocked by order of the FCC ever since 2011, 2012. It was an "agreement" Verizon was forced to sign to get more LTE spectrum.
It's old news. As long as a Verizon phone has the necessary LTE bands, it will work on any other LTE carrier.
Droid Turbo 2 has LTE bands 2,3,4,7,13. T-Mobile uses LTE bands 2,4,12. So, he's getting LTE bands 2,4.
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I'm assuming this means I could use my droid turbo 2 outside of the US and just swap in a local sim (and use LTE if those countries use 2,3,7 or 13)?
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I'm assuming this means I could use my droid turbo 2 outside of the US and just swap in a local sim (and use LTE if those countries use 2,3,7 or 13)?
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Yes. For countries without those bands you would rely upon HSPA or even GSM.
I'm using mine on Telstra in Australia with no issues. (Droid Turbo 2)
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I'm using mine on Telstra in Australia with no issues. (Droid Turbo 2)
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What LTE bands does your carrier use? Info i found says 1, 3, 7, 8, 28. Droid Turbo 2 had two of those (3, 7), plus HSPA of course.
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Okay, so I have my Galaxy Note 2 and here is the problem. I'm ONLY getting edge data. Now according to Wikipedia TMo's HSPA/HSAP+ runs on the 1900MHz band (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart) which the phone is suppose to support. I assume I got the international version, though I got it from Newegg.com and it came with a US Charger and everything.
Can anyone help with this, is there a way to fix it, via any rooting means, etc? I'm ungoddly disappointed as I use my phone a LOT...i can't even use maps because I'm getting like 20K/s on Edge and that's just disgusting.
Unfortunately for you my friend the phone needs to support the 1700/2100 aws band. The international version that you have does not support it.
The best you can hope for is for tmobile to get there 1900 spectrum refarmed in your area to hspa+.
If I were you I would try sending the phone back and just get the Tmobile version when it's released tomorrow.
The only other option would be to sign up with at&T. You will get hspa speeds with them. Or buy the straight talk at&t SIM.
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busab said:
Unfortunately for you my friend the phone needs to support the 1700/2100 aws band. The international version that you have does not support it.
The best you can hope for is for tmobile to get there 1900 spectrum refarmed in your area to hspa+.
If I were you I would try sending the phone back and just get the Tmobile version when it's released tomorrow.
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Well.......damn...I can't afford to buy the phone straight out, I bought this one from Newegg using my bill me later credit card. So I didn't have to pay anything down either....this actually blows.
Is the wiki completely wrong? It says the 1700/2100 band is for LTE starting 2013. But the 1900MHz band began service in 2011. So are some areas of the US on 1900 and others on 1700/2100 still? Is there some where you can find out what band your area is on if that's the case?
Thanks for the update, btw.
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Well.......damn...I can't afford to buy the phone straight out, I bought this one from Newegg using my bill me later credit card. So I didn't have to pay anything down either....this actually blows.
Is the wiki completely wrong? It says the 1700/2100 band is for LTE starting 2013. But the 1900MHz band began service in 2011. So are some areas of the US on 1900 and others on 1700/2100 still? Is there some where you can find out what band your area is on if that's the case?
Thanks for the update, btw.
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There are only like 3 cities where the 1900 band will get HSPA+ on T-mobile.
Right tmobile is currently updating the 1900 band to hspa+. It is live in some areas like Las Vegas and parts of new york, while it is still in testing in many other areas across the country.
If you are not getting hspa+ speeds in your area I think it's safe to say it's not available in your area just yet.
This website shows areas where hspa+ has been spotted. But not officially live so they may not be available 100% of the time.
http://www.airportal.de/
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Well this makes me kind of sick to my stomach. I'll have to decide what I want to do. They are planning on rolling out LTE in 2013...so...maybe HSPA+ will be moved to 1900MHz soon. Because I'm really loving this phone and don't really want to give it back and not be able to afford the official TMo version.
Choices Choices....
I'll have to see what Tmobile will let me do as well. Guess this is the price you pay for trying to keep up >.>
T-mobile claims the 1900 mhz refarming would be completed by the end of 2012. Check airportal.de (sorry noobs can't post outside links) to see if you are near any refarmed areas then test just to see if the hspa+ radio is working on your Note 2. I get 7-11mbps DL and 2-3 mbps UL on my Note 1 when there is hspa+ coverage.
I'm waiting to for the T-mo version to launch which is what I'll probably get. I believe it will have a faster hspa+ radio at 42mbps compared to the the international version's 21mbps. And possibly future proofed with LTE.
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T-mobile claims the 1900 mhz refarming would be completed by the end of 2012. Check airportal.de (sorry noobs can't post outside links) to see if you are near any refarmed areas then test just to see if the hspa+ radio is working on your Note 2. I get 7-11mbps DL and 2-3 mbps UL on my Note 1 when there is hspa+ coverage.
I'm waiting to for the T-mo version to launch which is what I'll probably get. I believe it will have a faster hspa+ radio at 42mbps compared to the the international version's 21mbps. And possibly future proofed with LTE.
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Baratheonist - Are you referring to the version that's launching tomorrow? I can't get H+ to work consistently on my Note 1 (int'l unlocked) so I am looking at the T-Mo version as well.
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Baratheonist - Are you referring to the version that's launching tomorrow? I can't get H+ to work consistently on my Note 1 (int'l unlocked) so I am looking at the T-Mo version as well.
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For my international GNote 1 , I get Edge speeds in my place. Doesn't matter because I use the home wifi. The nearest H+ coverage is a mile away, which I drove to, just to test H+ and it worked and was consistent. It was in a mall with a T-mobile store in it. So I guess that factors in.
Even if the GN2 launches tomorrow, I will wait and see how it turns out with other users. No reason for Tmo not to support GN2 on its 42mbps H+..
Some claim 20-27mbps DL speeds on units that support 42mbpsH+. With that speed - it's even faster than my home wifi, I don't need to look for LTE now although future proofing is very much welcome.
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For my international GNote 1 , I get Edge speeds in my place. Doesn't matter because I use the home wifi. The nearest H+ coverage is a mile away, which I drove to, just to test H+ and it worked and was consistent. It was in a mall with a T-mobile store in it. So I guess that factors in.
Even if the GN2 launches tomorrow, I will wait and see how it turns out with other users. No reason for Tmo not to support GN2 on its 42mbps H+..
Some claim 20-27mbps DL speeds on units that support 42mbpsH+. With that speed - it's even faster than my home wifi, I don't need to look for LTE now although future proofing is very much welcome.
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Thanks for the info. The Tmo store next to my office confirmed it's in stock for tomorrow. Based on those speeds I would have no hesitation switching over from VZ since I'm off contract. I'm going to attempt to stick to my plan of waiting for Nexus 4 announcement.
Dont feel bad, im stuck with GT7000 5month from now which only got 2g onTmo but good news are Tmo keep update their 1900 spectrum like the other said.All we do now is patient ..
I did contact TMo today to find out about the GNote 2 being released tomorrow. The lady told me, at my local store, the projected price point is $699, which means I'd have to put down 299 to finance it for the 24 months >.> Not exactly looking forward to that. Then I will have to call another location to request the RMA for this international unlocked one.
I've used the Note 2 today on wi-fi all day and I have to say, I truly love this phone...hence the reason I'm willing to drop the cash on it at my local store. Though this is my first Phablet, I didn't get the Note 1, simply because I wanted to see where they went with it....I see and I'm impressed, now.
Sell your N7100. You should get at least $650 and go buy the T-Mobile version.
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Not gloating or nothing but i seen the note on even wirefly.com on the 23rd and still wouldnt buy it. After all the problems i have with tmobile customer service alone, i couldnt even imagine trying to get any help i wouldnt already know from their less than even sad customer service for a phone not bought directly from them. But lucky me knew that note 2 was going to be released online an hr after midnight pacific time in the u.s, and as of today i the happiest phone owner around,lol. the reason for my response, i stopped buying cell phones from anywhere but the company whom i will have service with due to the fact it's purposely not mentioned about compatibility so you have trouble returning it, cause they give you their old, " well it was in our 1000 page agreement you need a damn lawyer to go over. I also have a phone like yours but from verizon, a droid incredible 2 with many different bands, that i use once and a while for something different on my t-mo account, but once i step out the city, i cant even open something as simple as googles homepage cause i lose the 3g signal and drop to like -2g,lol. But the closer i get to the Illinois/Wisconsin border the 3g signal damn near runs on 4g speeds, and i even swear one time while driving the h symbol popped up but changed back to 3 really quick. But when im in Milwaukee, Wisconsin i get great 3g signal. Screw 2013 and waiting, just have whatever fun you can with it now via wifi seeing there will be no world after it ends on Dec 21st, 2012, lol. Edit: had to add it kind of sucked the phone was supposed to be 299.99 on tmobile which was supposed to be the highest selling price with the others projected to sell it for 199.00. But they sure as hell where happy to use us wanting this phone against us and charging 443.00 after tax just for the phone. And thats at the lowest price they possibly had on a 2yr contract.
Ive heard with root there's a mod or setting change to access Hspa+.
Anyone heard anything.
To OP...I still have my Sprint MiFi at $35/mo w/unlimited data,then
spend $30 on TMobiles prepaid plan. Doing that for now.
Consistant 5-6 Mps
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For my international GNote 1 , I get Edge speeds in my place. Doesn't matter because I use the home wifi. The nearest H+ coverage is a mile away, which I drove to, just to test H+ and it worked and was consistent. It was in a mall with a T-mobile store in it. So I guess that factors in.
Even if the GN2 launches tomorrow, I will wait and see how it turns out with other users. No reason for Tmo not to support GN2 on its 42mbps H+..
Some claim 20-27mbps DL speeds on units that support 42mbpsH+. With that speed - it's even faster than my home wifi, I don't need to look for LTE now although future proofing is very much welcome.
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They are only getting those speeds as its fairly empty at the moment
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I'm having the same issue
Anybody wanna buy a intl note :/
Has anyone here bought an unlocked AT&T S3 to use on the MetroPCS/Tmobile network? If so has there been any issues? shorter battery life, bad connectivity?
I am debating getting the S3 unlocked or HTC One S. I would prefer the HTC One S but it doesn't have microSD slot
I have a SGH T999 Lte at&t branded unlocked and use on TMobile with the T999L lte rom with no ill effects.
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I have a SGH T999 Lte at&t branded unlocked and use on TMobile with the T999L lte rom with no ill effects.
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Is that the same model as my phone? So it would be advisable, after I got the S3 to flash it with a MetroPCS ROM after activation by Metro?
I thought there would be no need of a flash if I got an unlocked phone.
edo101 said:
Has anyone here bought an unlocked AT&T S3 to use on the MetroPCS/Tmobile network? If so has there been any issues? shorter battery life, bad connectivity?
I am debating getting the S3 unlocked or HTC One S. I would prefer the HTC One S but it doesn't have microSD slot
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You will have issues with 3G HSPA+ on 1700mhz, but 2G EDGE & 4G LTE will work just fine. If you live in a large metro area with a lot of LTE coverage it will be fine. I just went through this with my wife's phone, she had to have the Red one (AT&T specific).
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Is that the same model as my phone? So it would be advisable, after I got the S3 to flash it with a MetroPCS ROM after activation by Metro?
I thought there would be no need of a flash if I got an unlocked phone.
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There is no need to flash anything, just unlock it and add/edit the APN for TMo.
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You will have issues with 3G HSPA+ on 1700mhz, but 2G EDGE & 4G LTE will work just fine. If you live in a large metro area with a lot of LTE coverage it will be fine. I just went through this with my wife's phone, she had to have the Red one (AT&T specific).
There is no need to flash anything, just unlock it and add/edit the APN for TMo.
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Sweet thanks! Both areas that I frequent have 4G and LTE coverage. My only concern is when I'm driving long distances which I often do, being in college and losing 2G signal in the middle of no where. So far with my Metro phones, I haven't seen anywhere I had 3G coverage. its always 2G and 4G/LTE
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Sweet thanks! Both areas that I frequent have 4G and LTE coverage. My only concern is when I'm driving long distances which I often do, being in college and losing 2G signal in the middle of no where. So far with my Metro phones, I haven't seen anywhere I had 3G coverage. its always 2G and 4G/LTE
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Good, that is exactly what we are seeing as well. Mostly LTE coverage with EDGE to fallback on. Most all Metro areas and major highways/interstates will have good coverage. Funny enough we live in the middle of nowhere, but there is a major highway nearby so we get LTE coverage.
On a side note, US carriers marketed HSPA as 3G and HSPA+ as 4g, but both are technically 3G. True 4G is LTE. I am not sure if Metro ever had HSPA service, I think that they were just CDMA then later added LTE and have been migrated to TMo's GSM/HSPA network which now uses Metro's LTE as well. Only the newer GSM Based phones would connect to HSPA.
I have my s3 i747 unlocked an on metro I cannot get no data
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I have my s3 i747 unlocked an on metro I cannot get no data
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Check your APN settings.
i cant even get to the apn's when i goto more network then mobile networks it says insert Sim card to access network services but calling an text work fine
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i cant even get to the apn's when i goto more network then mobile networks it says insert Sim card to access network services but calling an text work fine
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What firmware are you running?
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4.3 rooted.. I got data now that I flashed a modem but its very slow datai don't know how to find the right 1..heres what the one I downloaded is called modem_CWM_I747UCUEMJB
Define Slow data please. Post Speed test results.
normally around 0.15mbs but sometimes it works great and I get around 15.00mbs
Given this is not an LTE device, that sounds about right. Weather, tower congestion do affect results.
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Given this is not an LTE device, that sounds about right. Weather, tower congestion do affect results.
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The I747 is an LTE device, my wife's (running on TMo) works just fine on LTE, just not HSPA+ 1700MHz. I'll run speed test if people would like.
Unlocked att siii will not access metro/t-mobile data
Can someone verify for me what the correct apn settings are? Should there be a network operator? And since I think the apn is finally right, do you have any more suggestions? Also, do you know if this is CDMA or GSM?
can I ask why people want to buy an ATT phone to use on a Tmobile carrier? On the S4 and Note versions, people buy Tmobile phones and use them on ATT, myself included. This is because of the bootloader, and the Tmobile phones cover ATT LTE channels while not the opposite.
Wasn't planned
I didn't intentionally set out to buy an AT&T phone, I was just looking to upgrade and this was the best deal. Or at least it looked to be on the surface. Do I just need to forget it and try to sell it?
If you are in an area recently upgraded by T-Mobile, the I747 will work just fine. However, if you are in an are not upgraded with LTE, etc, it's waay more trouble than its worth. The above post about not getting HSPA+21/42 is worth considering too though.
T-Mobile and AT&T are both GSM networks btw.
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I am actually on Metro P.S, but they are on the T-mobile network now in Atlanta, Ga where I live. We do run 4glte,but so far the fastest mine will connect to shows "E" on my phone, edge maybe? One of the many I've spoken with at metro said E is 3g. One of their repair techs said I needed a different SIM card because I had a CDMA phone but when I got to the store that had one he said it was a GSM phone. It's already about been more trouble than it is worth, but as much effort as I've put into it already, I'd like to resolve it.
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Phone will not stay locked on LTE in Global or LTE/UMTS/GSM mode. When in Global or LTE/UMTS/GSM mode and LTE does connect, it's momentarily and when trying to run a speed test or open a webpage, it quickly disconnects and connects to HSDPA. If switched to LTE/CDMA signal locks in great and data speeds are great however voice services are not available. Any thoughts or advice is welcomed. Thanks ahead of time!
Facts:
Phone: VS986
Android Version: 5.1
Build: LMY47D
Soft Version: VS98611A
APN: T-Mobile Fast apn (fast.t-mobile.com)
Strong LTE area
*#*#4636#*#* Not available on LG G4
Radio Swither Not available on LG G4
Rooted
Xposed installed
Gravity Box installed (no change when using smart radio features)
G3 Tweakbox installed but module will not register with Xposed Framework (I know it was along shot)
What band LTE are you connecting to? I found that here on band 2, I will connect at first, but then it switches back to edge. Seems fine in a band 4 LTE area though.
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What band LTE are you connecting to? I found that here on band 2, I will connect at first, but then it switches back to edge. Seems fine in a band 4 LTE area though.
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I'm in the Raleigh NC area. According to LTE Discovery i'm using Band 4. and I also experience the same. A brief connection while in global or LTE/UMTS/GSM mode then it falls back to HSPA.
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I'm in the Raleigh NC area. According to LTE Discovery i'm using Band 4. and I also experience the same. A brief connection while in global or LTE/UMTS/GSM mode then it falls back to HSPA.
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I haven't found LTE Discovery to report the band correctly, at least in my case. It would say I'm on band 4 on my Moto X, but when using a band 4 only device I would only get Edge, but when I go in a confirmed band 4 area it works fine. From what I've found, most 2G > LTE sites were converted to band 2 LTE. Although since you get HSPA the chances of it actually being on band 4 are higher.
I'm fairly certain this is a Band 4 area. The latest T-Mobile maps are pretty good about pointing out Band 2 areas. I've since sold the phone and acquired a iPhone 6 Plus which I'm looking to sell to replace it with an international G4 or T-Mobile G4. I was pretty impressed with that phone. If I had to rank my favorites, it's number 2. Nexus 5 is still king of the hill for me. There wasn't a better phone out when it was release for a better price.
did you ever figure this out? samething is happening to me
Unfortunately I didn't. I sold it and bought one for T-Mobile...... Which I just sold about 3 hours ago.
So I tested it out again, and in a band 2 area when I boot up my phone with a T-Mobile SIM, I get LTE for several seconds then it cuts back over to 2G.
Now that there is a new software update for the G4, I wonder if this is anymore reliable. Anyone who took the OTA update in the past few days, can you let us know if it's any better?
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Been there, done that...wanted to switch over to T-Mobile, but unfortunately, the VS986 only works with two of their three LTE bands, as you know, and it seems everywhere I went, they were using the one the phone doesn't receive (I'm in southern California, for what it's worth, but tested it on a freeway run up the I-5 to the central part of the state - only got 4G-LTE in a few places). Wound up going back to Verizon
I'm getting the exact same results in Burlington, VT (T-Mobile band 2 market). I first have to manually select T-Mobile (defaults to roaming on AT&T HSPA+) then LTE works for less than a minute (LTE Discovery says band 4) and then I lose signal when I get signal again, I only have edge. It does this constantly and is really annoying.
Aww, bummer. I was thinking about switching to T-Mobile, but looks like that is not a viable option? So no one has been able to successfully use the phone on T-Mobile, even after enabling bands 2 and 4 only?
This whole plethora of LTE bands, where each provider does its own crap is such a mess, is just serves to lock in customers, since switching phones is expensive. Government should mandate that all phones can work on all US LTE bands, the technology exists.
I am on the same boat. Everything works on my VS986 on t-mobile network. but I cannot get the LTE to work properly. LTE discovery shows band 4 (not sure if correct though)
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Aww, bummer. I was thinking about switching to T-Mobile, but looks like that is not a viable option? So no one has been able to successfully use the phone on T-Mobile, even after enabling bands 2 and 4 only?
This whole plethora of LTE bands, where each provider does its own crap is such a mess, is just serves to lock in customers, since switching phones is expensive. Government should mandate that all phones can work on all US LTE bands, the technology exists.
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My VRZ LG G4 shows that it has Band 2, 4, 5, and 13. I tried enabling 2 & 4 only, 4 only, 2 only, 2&4&13 only but with no success.
What is interesting is I am coming from VRZ LG G3 and LTE was just fine and never had an issue.
I looked at the VRZ LG G3 LTE bands and I see Band 3,4, and 13 enabled. It did not even have band 2.
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When I switched the Network Mode to LTE/CDMA I get constant 4G-LTE & internet is working but my phone cannot place and receive phone calls.
with LTE/CDMA I see 4G at 100dBm and 1X at 120dBm
ruijay said:
More testing:
When I switched the Network Mode to LTE/CDMA I get constant 4G-LTE & internet is working but my phone cannot place and receive phone calls.
with LTE/CDMA I see 4G at 100dBm and 1X at 120dBm
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Interesting, almost sounds like a bug in the LTE/GSM mode.
I assume when you switch to global mode, voice works but only HSPA, right?
konradsa said:
Interesting, almost sounds like a bug in the LTE/GSM mode.
I assume when you switch to global mode, voice works but only HSPA, right?
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That is right.
The best internet speed was with LTE/CDMA but no voice or text
ruijay said:
That is right.
The best internet speed was with LTE/CDMA but no voice or text
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Out of curiosity, what speeds do you get on HSPA in global mode?
konradsa said:
Out of curiosity, what speeds do you get on HSPA in global mode?
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With HSPA/3G I get around 7 mbps download and 1.88 mbps upload
ruijay said:
More testing:
When I switched the Network Mode to LTE/CDMA I get constant 4G-LTE & internet is working but my phone cannot place and receive phone calls.
with LTE/CDMA I see 4G at 100dBm and 1X at 120dBm
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ruijay said:
That is right.
The best internet speed was with LTE/CDMA but no voice or text
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I think since someone reported before that this used to work the G3, it sounds like a bug to me. I guess we can hope and pray that this will work in future releases, but there is no guarantee of course. Not sure what complaining to Verizon will do, since they are probably not very interested in you using T-Mobile. Of course, you can always wrap the complaint into something like you are using the phone in a different country on vacation and it doesn't work. Maybe a complaint to the FTC could work too, since it sounds like Verizon is required to have their phones unlocked for use on other networks based on some settlement.
konradsa said:
I think since someone reported before that this used to work the G3, it sounds like a bug to me. I guess we can hope and pray that this will work in future releases, but there is no guarantee of course. Not sure what complaining to Verizon will do, since they are probably not very interested in you using T-Mobile. Of course, you can always wrap the complaint into something like you are using the phone in a different country on vacation and it doesn't work. Maybe a complaint to the FTC could work too, since it sounds like Verizon is required to have their phones unlocked for use on other networks based on some settlement.
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I am tempted to try the guide in here to add more LTE bands:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/guide-enabling-lte-bands-t3137818
While some testers said the LTE bands are limited by hardware others reported some success modifying the software. Any thoughts?
With the poor support of the U11 from Verizon, I was worried about the U12+. That is until I found this on their open development site...
It's been certified for all bands, not just 13.
So that screenshot shows the bands that are NOT supported/certified? I'm thinking it should work...they've had on their online sales webpage that the unlocked works on VZW as well.
*The unlocked HTC U12+ is compatible with AT&T, T‑Mobile and Verizon Networks.
whats band 5???
techlogik said:
So that screenshot shows the bands that are NOT supported/certified? I'm thinking it should work...they've had on their online sales webpage that the unlocked works on VZW as well.
*The unlocked HTC U12+ is compatible with AT&T, T‑Mobile and Verizon Networks.
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No, this shows that bands that are certified. The U11 is also "compatible" with Verizon, but what they didn't tell you was that it was limited to band 13.
oneandroidnut said:
whats band 5???
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I've seen a few people that were on band 5, but I don't remember where it was.
oneandroidnut said:
whats band 5???
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In S. Calif, Band 5 is a new one that you see as often as 2, 4, and 13.
I use a Play Store app called Network Cell Info. While driving, you can see
which band is connected, and on another tab, you can see a map with cell towers as you pass them.
Verizon Variant
Will the unlocked 128GB variant be compatible with Verizon? Specifically will the Verizon Wireless app and the Verizon Cloud app be compatible for this device? Also will the carrier voicemail be compatible? I have heard of some issues with all of these on the U11 which was unlocked but "compatible" with Verizon.
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Will the unlocked 128GB variant be compatible with Verizon? Specifically will the Verizon Wireless app and the Verizon Cloud app be compatible for this device? Also will the carrier voicemail be compatible? I have heard of some issues with all of these on the U11 which was unlocked but "compatible" with Verizon.
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I'm not sure about the apps. I wasn't able to get them on the U11.
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In S. Calif, Band 5 is a new one that you see as often as 2, 4, and 13.
I use a Play Store app called Network Cell Info. While driving, you can see
which band is connected, and on another tab, you can see a map with cell towers as you pass them.
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Interesting I use LTE Discovery and never seen it here in ohio just 2,4 & 13
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whats band 5???
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Band 5 is cellular 850mhz. Mostly used by Verizon and At&t Nationwide for legacy networks. In the last year or two these frequencies have been getting repurposed for LTE.
My biggest question is will this support Verizon's Wifi Calling as I live in a cell dead spot and also have service issues occasionally at work when in the basement of the building but wifi calling with my HTC 10 has been great for both of those issues, the U11 did not support Verizon wifi calling.
Has anybody picked up a U12+ on Verizon yet? Care to share your experience so far?
My order is released pending fulfillment as of this morning for the Verizon variant 64gb translucent blue.
evilevn said:
My biggest question is will this support Verizon's Wifi Calling as I live in a cell dead spot and also have service issues occasionally at work when in the basement of the building but wifi calling with my HTC 10 has been great for both of those issues, the U11 did not support Verizon wifi calling.
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no wifi calling on vzw... https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76872041&postcount=15
OMJ said:
no wifi calling on vzw... https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76872041&postcount=15
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If that's the worst don't have, I could live with it.
aer0zer0 said:
If that's the worst don't have, I could live with it.
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Should be the same as the U11
Sent from my HTC U11 using XDA Labs
OMJ said:
Should be the same as the U11
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Complete with all the verizon headache to keep activated?
aer0zer0 said:
Complete with all the verizon headache to keep activated?
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yeah I'm not sure about that
For those who used the U11 and are now using if not expecting or thinking about getting this phone.
How overall coverage like without CDMA fall back?
Few weeks ago I road tripped around the west coast and parts of the Midwest and LTE coverage was pretty abudano. However there were times were either CDMA was the only thing available for miles or it was simply faster either because LTE was crowded (city) or weak signal where 3G was stronger (rural).
Few examples were driving around Yosemite, South East Oregon, Southern Montana at times, Yellowstone, and Southern Utah.
Thinking back on it I would've had no service for a few hours in places.
After getting my phone yesterday, I'm happy to report that I've seen bands 2, 4, & 13 while driving around.
Hello all. Been a long while since I've been on the forums. I've got a VZW Note 10+ (SM-N975U) that I just paid off through my carrier. However I'm going to be switching me and my family to ATT solely for better coverage reasons and a buddy of mine needs a new phone bad. I've thought it upon myself to send my Note to him however I'm not 100% sure how good the lte functionality would be for him.
He says right now in his area the only bands they honestly support are 900/1800/2400 for the 4G LTE handle. I wasn't able to find much for the LTE handles this one specifically supports which is why I'm making this post. Would my phone be compatible if I had sent it to him.?
I can send whatever screenshots necessary, this is just something that's new to me
Thanks all
-ElmoRapz
Where is he at?
I've had no problems using Verizon 4G LTE phones in both Okinawa and Japan.
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Where is he at?
I've had no problems using Verizon 4G LTE phones in both Okinawa and Japan.
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He's over by Yelverton UK
It should work. He should be able to pop in a SIM from a local provider access get LTE.