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Is it better to play games with GB roms, or ICS roms? If possible, state the rom
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IMO if u like GB then use the baseband ver. XXLM8 its smooth but if you like ICS then use CM9 by arco..
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Personally, i tried CM9 and GB and there is really a huge difference in gaming... CM9 is really not that excellent in terms of gaming, but how is the BETA version?

imadiu said:
Personally, i tried CM9 and GB and there is really a huge difference in gaming... CM9 is really not that excellent in terms of gaming, but how is the BETA version?
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I think the most stable rom for gaming is still the gb because ics for our device is just released and still take time for other games to adapt to our ics based.
Sorry if i'm wrong just saying my opinion
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imadiu said:
Personally, i tried CM9 and GB and there is really a huge difference in gaming... CM9 is really not that excellent in terms of gaming, but how is the BETA version?
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I'm not a pro gamer, but imho CM9 works much better with games than stock GB ROM (less lag, more fluid gaming experience).

[.::MDT::.] said:
I'm not a pro gamer, but imho CM9 works much better with games than stock GB ROM (less lag, more fluid gaming experience).
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Of course... Like you have said STOCK GB rom. No one really use stock rom to play games
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imadiu said:
Of course... Like you have said STOCK GB rom. No one really use stock rom to play games
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Lol, that's probably a good point!

How many are still on GB and why?

Just a poll of who is still using GB and why?
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+1 here
Great battery life and everything works flawlessly. Don't need to do any special tweaking or disabling or vodoo to get good battery life and have a stable phone.
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I'm on GB too unnamed rom now.I just wish there were more GB roms out.

I am also. Because it is way smoother than ics. Really the only reason battery wise I got same on ics as gb. But can't wait to get the jb update!
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Isn't it true the MHL video only works on GB also?
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MHL works on ICS flawlessly,on touchwiz roms only though, so.
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I get better performance and better battery life on FI27 then 2.3.6 GB. Time to move on.. Oh and don't have to tweak anything

Crucifixion said:
I get better performance and better battery life on FI27 then 2.3.6 GB. Time to move on.. Oh and don't have to tweak anything
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I clap for you
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jordan2333 said:
I'm on GB too unnamed rom now.I just wish there were more GB roms out.
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Just switched back to UnNamed for the weekend. When i need to 100% depend on my phone, GB is always there for me and never fails me.
Unforuntely Im a flash addict so i will keep switching roms. But can always depend on good ol' gingerbread

KEEP a Blazer 4.0 backup!

samsmalls said:
KEEP a Blazer 4.0 backup!
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I keep a Blazer 4.1 always ready and load it regularly to update apps then re-backup. By far the most reliable I've had. I'm on venum Fi27 right now. Its the best ICS I've had so far.
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better battery life...

I don't know if anyone is picking up on the trends here. But you will notice people basically stating they either use or in some way shape or form revert back to gb to get things done or perform functions that should be trivial. With that in mind it becomes clearer and clearer that samsungs implementation (not Google) of ics is seriously flawed. I can only pray that jb doesn't turn out like ics.
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Surprised to see the support for gb. I do live the battery life, but the ui of ics is just too nice.
With that said, is calk's Rom still considered the best gb Rom? I've seen unnamed and phantom mentioned as well.
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I'm on calks 3.0 and I love this Rom and the battery life.. don't get me wrong, I love ics/jb bells and whistles and the customization but the stability of a gb rom can't be beat until all the bugs are ironed out... but who knows, maybe when ics /jb is really official and there's an officialcustom kernel built, I don't see gb being beat...
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On Calkulin GB rom
Only reason still on GB is not sure how to pop up to ICS or Jelly a little confused and looking for a good how to upgrade breakdown tutorial.

I would've stayed on blazer or any gingerbread if YouTube and Songza were usable, no 4G in my area and those apps would just keep loading on 3g. I honestly don't see any difference in battery life with gingerbread and the newer ICS roms, only slight speed difference.
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i went to JB/ICS but the download speeds are so much slower for me on them so i stick to GB to tether to my laptop.

Me. just all around more stable and faster to me.
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I'm running blazer 4.1 because the GB data speeds/ping are better than ICS/JB. I can't stand the touchwiz super-scroll and AOSP ICS/JB still has the 4G bug. Once AOSP fixes the 4G bug I will update. I have never had battery problems on any Rom.

[Q] What's the point of using ICS/JB-based roms?

I can't figure it out so maybe someone will help me (using MIUI as example).
What exactly is the benefit of using JB-based MIUI over GB-based MIUI apart from the fact of having the newest thing on the block? I found only TWO minor things:
- good voice recognition of Android 4+ (I don't even know if MIUI has it built in)
- in MIUI JB you can have pattern screenlock as a single lock. There is no way of avoiding double screenlock on GB MIUI.
So is it really worth loosing HALF of the Quadrant score - I get ~950 points in JB MIUI and 1900 in GB MIUI (which I suppose means JB roms are two times slower than GB roms) and some extra space on data partition?

Did you seriously just write that.
impactor said:
So is it really worth loosing HALF of the Quadrant score - I get ~950 points in JB MIUI and 1900 in GB MIUI (which I suppose means JB roms are two times slower than GB roms) and some extra space on data partition?
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Everyone knows benchmarks are worthless in the grand scheme of things. Except for testing new high end phones (even then there not accurate enough.)
GB MIUI is probably a little faster but no were near 2 TIMES faster than JB MIUI.
Though MIUI in general was never that fast anyway
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In the grand scheme of things we could just use Nokias 3100 and our lives would not be much different.
There is a big difference in benchmark result between different roms on the same phone, so obviously it IS measuring something.
GB MIUI is also twice as fast as GB CM7 on my phone.

I'm running Spazedog ICS and i'm getting 2100pts
However, SPazedog is a very stable ROM

Sui77 said:
I'm running Spazedog ICS and i'm getting 2100pts
However, SPazedog is a very stable ROM
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I can give you more than that on a froyo rom. It still is a fake score.
- Swyped from my Galaxy Note 2

Aside form arguing whether benchmarks work:
A- Aesthetics, ICS is unbelievably beautiful :laugh:
B- All the launcher features, Keyboard mouse (if you do some scripting)
C- As mentioned voice recognition is great
D- Upgraded GApps
E- List goes on...its the little things that count
And yes, Spacedog rom for the bravo kicks a**

ICS/JB UI is smoother and more user-friendly. camera is better and faster. overall the experience is better (there are lots of improvements there and there that make things much easier and more enjoyable to use)

yeahman45 said:
ICS/JB UI is smoother
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Is it? On HTC Desire?
camera is better and faster.
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Is it? On HTC Desire ports? I read a lot about problems with video recording on JB ports.

yeahman45 said:
ICS/JB UI is smoother and more user-friendly. camera is better and faster. overall the experience is better
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In general, yes.
On the HTC Desire, no.

yeahman45 said:
camera is better and faster.
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I last time I checked camera was not working?
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Have you never tried a ICS or JB ROM? Just make a backup and flash one. There are really good smooth/stable ICS ROMs, and JB with butter is really tasty, though still some bugs. Not slow at all though. Give it a go.
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I think people need to redefine the words 'stable' and 'smooth' as well as 'fast' coz I didn't get those when using ICS or JB (with a tons of bugs that, I think, will not be solved anytime soon).

waterbox said:
Have you never tried a ICS or JB ROM? Just make a backup and flash one. There are really good smooth/stable ICS ROMs, and JB with butter is really tasty, though still some bugs. Not slow at all though. Give it a go.
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smooth, stable and butter? u sure?
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jmcclue said:
smooth, stable and butter? u sure?
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take a look here
I have always used GB rom and I was satisfied, I installed this for 10 days and it works very well.

ik8fpd said:
take a look here
I have always used GB rom and I was satisfied, I installed this for 10 days and it works very well.
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With the ROM you linked i had today like 6 random reboots under 10min's.
The only useable JB for me so far was Evervolv build.

jmcclue said:
smooth, stable and butter? u sure?
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i agree that all the JB roms on xda are not that really stable. But u must try Qiss me rom JB version. It is stable and i have been using it for 1 - 2 months now

GB battery life better than ICS and JB?

I'm obviously not a 'dev' but is there any reason that the software that makes up GB compared to ICS allows the battery to last waaaaay longer, I am in the middle of the unbricking/rooting process and just playing around on the GB for a day and I noticed this? While on ICS it would be at 70% after just 2-3hrs or sometimes less % so what in your opinions allows for this and is there anything from GB software that can be used in unison with ICS or JB ROMs to allow for better battery life, maybe this makes no sense and it obviously doesn't for me either just wanted to ask this?
Thanks

I used to run the CM9 and CM10 builds, as well as the carrier ICS. I can tell you that my phone is more stable, and the battery seems to last longer under GB. Everything I need works in GB.. So until there is a version of android that doesn't crash my phone I will stick with GB.
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ahdoublexl said:
I used to run the CM9 and CM10 builds, as well as the carrier ICS. I can tell you that my phone is more stable, and the battery seems to last longer under GB. Everything I need works in GB.. So until there is a version of android that doesn't crash my phone I will stick with GB.
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Its odd hey and I only wish that some devs could work out why, maybe than some how work it into the ROMs so we don't have issues such as ICS?

The reason is simple in ics it fully utelize the processor thus using more power.
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All I can tell you is this. When I first got my phone in May it came with GB, I would only get four hours before needing a recharge. Very upset about this I did research and found I was not alone, this is actually how I found XDA So I purchased an extended life battery and finally could go all day on a charge. Then I got brave and went through the unbrick process (because I was dumb and upgraded to v10j). As soon as I started running cm my battery life doubled, then after official came out I found it equally impressive with battery life especially after disabling fast dormancy. However I would be willing to try GB out again for a few days to see how my battery life is and in comparison.
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UPDATE: Well I messed up when I was pushing the gb images over and BORKED my phone lol. Oh well I should have a replacement by the end of the week.

JB is little better than ICS.
Therefore GB > JB > ICS on my opinion.

vctshim said:
JB is little better than ICS.
Therefore GB > JB > ICS on my opinion.
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That means ICS consume more? I found my phone always get random reboot and battery drains on cm9. I think i will back up everything and move back to gb and give a try again.
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toby709 said:
That means ICS consume more? I found my phone always get random reboot and battery drains on cm9. I think i will back up everything and move back to gb and give a try again.
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I would try one of the stocks, v20f or liquid nitro. They will give you better battery life than GB, cm9, cm10. After all this FUD above I put GB on my phone for a couple of days and couldn't even make it through the day. Screen on power is MUCH higher on GB and that is why. This is also what I experienced when I first for my phone in May.
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Overall smoothness

So my friend and I were comparing our phones he has an iPhone, and my phone would do everything faster his phone just did everything smoother, mostly we checked how games ran, his phone in game options ex: scrolling through options and upgrades was way more smooth and responsive while mine had hiccups, gameplay was the same though, but I'm curious why the iPhone is smoother scrolling even outside of its ui into games while my Hercules beats it in specs?
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Its not only hardware that determines how smooth it scrolls but also the software
In my opinion the reason I think it scrolls better has to do with apples memory management because it manages ram more smoothly so that's probably why
Also did you install custom kernel on your device?
Because if you did there would be no way you would lose
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mycars12 said:
Its not only hardware that determines how smooth it scrolls but also the software
In my opinion the reason I think it scrolls better has to do with apples memory management because it manages ram more smoothly so that's probably why
Also did you install custom kernel on your device?
Because if you did there would be no way you would lose
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I did I have nibbles kernel on my phone and the ROM is sbean
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Wolfygang said:
I did I have nibbles kernel on my phone and the ROM is sbean
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lol then i actually have no idea
the only thing that i could recommend is for you to try lightning zap rom
also overclock to the fullest and put in performance mode!!!!!
Then also install the v6 supercharger but i think slimbean already has it so
i think im stumped on this one lol!

Lightening zap is a kernel. And as for performance once we officially get project butter everything should be fine then.
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skaroger867 said:
Lightening zap is a kernel. And as for performance once we officially get project butter everything should be fine then.
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lol yeah i totally did a typo there but i meant kernel!
but thanks for clarifying that i wouldn't want to spread that around
well i guess you explained it better than me and thanks!!!

"The iPhone changed things by introducing a dedicated thread with high priority for handling UI rendering, redirecting all power (CPU and GPU) to handling UI element rendering in realtime based on touch input. The result? Smooth-as-butter UI elements, transitions and animations as soon as you touch the screen -- even on older hardware when paired with the latest iOS 5 software. The drawback: everything else, from app downloads to content rendering will pause so the UI can keep that high frame rate, high quality redraw pace."
http://m.imore.com/android-ui-smooth-ios
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I've tried every kernel for this phone and most ROMs and there are brief times when the smoothness matches the iPhone, but the consistency just isn't there..
Speed..well that's a different story there are some ROM/kernel/tweak combos that make this phone pretty darn fast
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rymanh said:
I've tried every kernel for this phone and most ROMs and there are brief times when the smoothness matches the iPhone, but the consistency just isn't there..
Speed..well that's a different story there are some ROM/kernel/tweak combos that make this phone pretty darn fast
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The t989 is faster than the iPhone 4s. Geekbench 2 proves that. But in terms of smoothness the iPhone will ALWAYS win. It's just the way Android is designed. iOS sets resources aside for UI transitions and whatnot and that's why you NEVER see an iPhone stutter and spurt like Android does at times. Give Android another year or so and this issue will be a thing of the past. Unfortunately the only way to resolve this with Android is better hardware... but it's coming!
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I'm pretty used to the spurts and sputters and its not a huge deal to me..I was running jedijelly for a while and went back to JMT for now until we get official ..its actually quite a bit faster than jedijelly and the battery life is outstanding ..its my opinion that JMT brings this phone almost on par with the iPhone smoothness..thanks to our great devs we have a big advantage over the average T989 user
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I'm just gonna wish upon a star for Ubuntu new os to get to this device lol
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Wolfygang said:
I'm just gonna wish upon a star for Ubuntu new os to get to this device lol
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I'm not too familiar with Ubuntu but i agree that it would be cool
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I'm pretty used to the spurts and sputters and its not a huge deal to me..I was running jedijelly for a while and went back to JMT for now until we get official ..its actually quite a bit faster than jedijelly and the battery life is outstanding ..its my opinion that JMT brings this phone almost on par with the iPhone smoothness..thanks to our great devs we have a big advantage over the average T989 user
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Wow. I have the opposite experience. Touchwiz 4.0.4 spurts and stutters for me a lot. Add in the fact that it's nowhere near as snappy as AOSP 4.1 and I find myself constantly going back to jelly bean even though Touchwiz 4.0.4 gives me better battery life.
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RushAOZ said:
Wow. I have the opposite experience. Touchwiz 4.0.4 spurts and stutters for me a lot. Add in the fact that it's nowhere near as snappy as AOSP 4.1 and I find myself constantly going back to jelly bean even though Touchwiz 4.0.4 gives me better battery life.
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I'm still using jmtx1 even though there were is more current versions.
Even though ptmr3 said that adding the supercharge script was unnecessary I did it anyways just to ease my mind Lol I also added some of the battery saving mods from pmr...I keep my cpu set to ondemand/noop and slightly underclocked..and I am using the stock tw launcher ..
I think that some of the aosp ROMs out there may be slightly faster. but in my experiences they aren't as smooth as this one ..
Experiences may vary from phone to phone so there is no point in saying which ROM is better than the rest but I put my setup so someone can try it for themselves
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well basically JB is the most stable ROM in my opinion that has the most support otherwise like ICS and GB don't have as much but i think that as soon as Ubuntu gets released the JB roms will be flowing like water but basically that also means that more roms will be smoother and remember that JB hasn't been officially released for our device so what there is currently is made by our awesome devs!