[Q] What's the point of using ICS/JB-based roms? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I can't figure it out so maybe someone will help me (using MIUI as example).
What exactly is the benefit of using JB-based MIUI over GB-based MIUI apart from the fact of having the newest thing on the block? I found only TWO minor things:
- good voice recognition of Android 4+ (I don't even know if MIUI has it built in)
- in MIUI JB you can have pattern screenlock as a single lock. There is no way of avoiding double screenlock on GB MIUI.
So is it really worth loosing HALF of the Quadrant score - I get ~950 points in JB MIUI and 1900 in GB MIUI (which I suppose means JB roms are two times slower than GB roms) and some extra space on data partition?

Did you seriously just write that.
impactor said:
So is it really worth loosing HALF of the Quadrant score - I get ~950 points in JB MIUI and 1900 in GB MIUI (which I suppose means JB roms are two times slower than GB roms) and some extra space on data partition?
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Everyone knows benchmarks are worthless in the grand scheme of things. Except for testing new high end phones (even then there not accurate enough.)
GB MIUI is probably a little faster but no were near 2 TIMES faster than JB MIUI.
Though MIUI in general was never that fast anyway
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In the grand scheme of things we could just use Nokias 3100 and our lives would not be much different.
There is a big difference in benchmark result between different roms on the same phone, so obviously it IS measuring something.
GB MIUI is also twice as fast as GB CM7 on my phone.

I'm running Spazedog ICS and i'm getting 2100pts
However, SPazedog is a very stable ROM

Sui77 said:
I'm running Spazedog ICS and i'm getting 2100pts
However, SPazedog is a very stable ROM
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I can give you more than that on a froyo rom. It still is a fake score.
- Swyped from my Galaxy Note 2

Aside form arguing whether benchmarks work:
A- Aesthetics, ICS is unbelievably beautiful :laugh:
B- All the launcher features, Keyboard mouse (if you do some scripting)
C- As mentioned voice recognition is great
D- Upgraded GApps
E- List goes on...its the little things that count
And yes, Spacedog rom for the bravo kicks a**

ICS/JB UI is smoother and more user-friendly. camera is better and faster. overall the experience is better (there are lots of improvements there and there that make things much easier and more enjoyable to use)

yeahman45 said:
ICS/JB UI is smoother
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Is it? On HTC Desire?
camera is better and faster.
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Is it? On HTC Desire ports? I read a lot about problems with video recording on JB ports.

yeahman45 said:
ICS/JB UI is smoother and more user-friendly. camera is better and faster. overall the experience is better
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In general, yes.
On the HTC Desire, no.

yeahman45 said:
camera is better and faster.
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I last time I checked camera was not working?
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Have you never tried a ICS or JB ROM? Just make a backup and flash one. There are really good smooth/stable ICS ROMs, and JB with butter is really tasty, though still some bugs. Not slow at all though. Give it a go.
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I think people need to redefine the words 'stable' and 'smooth' as well as 'fast' coz I didn't get those when using ICS or JB (with a tons of bugs that, I think, will not be solved anytime soon).

waterbox said:
Have you never tried a ICS or JB ROM? Just make a backup and flash one. There are really good smooth/stable ICS ROMs, and JB with butter is really tasty, though still some bugs. Not slow at all though. Give it a go.
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smooth, stable and butter? u sure?
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jmcclue said:
smooth, stable and butter? u sure?
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take a look here
I have always used GB rom and I was satisfied, I installed this for 10 days and it works very well.

ik8fpd said:
take a look here
I have always used GB rom and I was satisfied, I installed this for 10 days and it works very well.
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With the ROM you linked i had today like 6 random reboots under 10min's.
The only useable JB for me so far was Evervolv build.

jmcclue said:
smooth, stable and butter? u sure?
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i agree that all the JB roms on xda are not that really stable. But u must try Qiss me rom JB version. It is stable and i have been using it for 1 - 2 months now

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[Q] Help: Suggest best sense-less One X ROM?

Most of the roms seem to have retained Sense 4. And the Sense roms seem to be updated more frequently.
I like the new Sense but want to try something different. I'm coming from Android Revolution which I like very much.
Want a ROM with lots of improvements to optimize performance, smoothness and speed, based on the latest ICS version, with bone-stock APKs and no bloatware.
Suggestions? What are my best couple options even....?
I'd recommend LeDrOiD and Android Revolution HD, both are updated frequently. But since HTC have not released any new software lately, there isn't much for the developers to do.
Both ROM can have Sense removed, LeDrOiD is easier in this regard.
It seems kernel is currently the hot development area.
Edit, posted irreverent info.
Thanks! I was asking about ROMS not Launchers though.
Ideally I would like a sense-less ROM that came with the stock ICS launcher (even over Apex or Nova).
readk said:
Thanks! I was asking about ROMS not Launchers though.
Ideally I would like a sense-less ROM that came with the stock ICS launcher (even over Apex or Nova).
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try JDROID rom then or check the rom thread and see if they give the sense-less option in aroma installer..most roms now do that anyway. or just use rom-cleaner no-sense version and it does the business for you anyway
Or you could try cyanogen mod 9?
ste1164 said:
Or you could try cyanogen mod 9?
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no not yet...best wait till a few more builds till it gets fully stable
Goku80 said:
no not yet...best wait till a few more builds till it gets fully stable
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I can't claim to have given it a thorough testing, but the CM9 build available on the MoDaCo forums seemed pretty stable to me.
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distortedloop said:
I can't claim to have given it a thorough testing, but the CM9 build available on the MoDaCo forums seemed pretty stable to me.
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just by reading the changelog for me there was a few options there missing..plus the closed source attitude kinda put me off that rom anyway of Trips..the guys in the development section here are doing a far great work and are alot more helpful...so i would wait on those guys to get it up and running
I thought camera and wifi hotspot weren't working on CM9 - I use both every day.
Camera worked for me. Hotspot I didn't try, but it's the only thing listed as not working on Trip's build of CM9
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Goku80 said:
just by reading the changelog for me there was a few options there missing..plus the closed source attitude kinda put me off that rom anyway of Trips..the guys in the development section here are doing a far great work and are alot more helpful...so i would wait on those guys to get it up and running
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Fair enough, and I don't disagree much. In Trips defense, he seems to have a rather large following singing his praises.
I only installed it for testing out GPS. I've gone back to ARHD with my own tweaks to trimming Sense.
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distortedloop said:
Fair enough, and I don't disagree much. In Trips defense, he seems to have a rather large following singing his praises.
I only installed it for testing out GPS. I've gone back to ARHD with my own tweaks to trimming Sense.
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No one is saying anything bad about him, just the guys here are open with the code that makes anyone able to help, stuff gets done faster.
Back on topic, with leedroid, pkmn and arhd(I think) you can remove sense and all its widgets and run any launcher you like.
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Most stable, reliable 4.0+ Desire ROM for everyday business use.

Hi folks,
I've posted this request in another forum and was suggested MildWild 5.0 and then I went and installed Sandvold beta 18. It seemed fine and after a few hours of tweaking, had it set up exactly how I wanted it. Sent a text to someone, put the phone down and about 15 minutes later pick it up again and see it appeared to have formatted itself and was back on the very start screen when I first booted it to the phone with the "Tips" and everything! Also, the home button now doesn't do anything at all.
It looks cool and everything and has nice features, but I simply can't have a phone with such unpredictable behavior. Also installed it at the same time to my friends desire and he's having issues with it too.
I went to have a look at Mildwild 5.0 and the thread seems to have posters complaining of other problems too.
Is there any 4.0 ROM that is absolutely stable and simply just "works" with everything, gps, radio, no restarts or any unpredictable behavior.
I need the phone for business use so I'm not too pushed about having the absolute latest build, ICS is fine for example, I don't want JB if it's unstable. I just need a rom that works!
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
buy new phone with ics
on desire nikez rom is good,evriting except camera
Thanks for the reply I'd prefer no to buy a new phone, most of them are the larger screens nowadays and a desire is about as big as I want to have for work reasons (I do furniture removals so anything bigger would get in the way).
So it's really going to be about finding a proper ROM. Thanks for the suggestion of nikez, but I'd prefer to go with something where everything just works, no camera issues even, if possible.
Is CM9 available for the desire?
cormie said:
Thanks for the reply I'd prefer no to buy a new phone, most of them are the larger screens nowadays and a desire is about as big as I want to have for work reasons (I do furniture removals so anything bigger would get in the way).
So it's really going to be about finding a proper ROM. Thanks for the suggestion of nikez, but I'd prefer to go with something where everything just works, no camera issues even, if possible.
Is CM9 available for the desire?
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Spazedog . Is cm9
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Spazedog . Is cm9
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Thanks, I had a look at the spazedog thread and it seems to be JB now and seems to have a lot of things not working and a few warnings so I don't think that will suit either
I don't think so.
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I don't think so.
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Damn, that's a pity. So it's looking like there's virtually no stable roms out there at all? I still have to try Mildwild but from reading the forum it appears to have problems too
cormie said:
Is there any 4.0 ROM that is absolutely stable and simply just "works" with everything, gps, radio, no restarts or any unpredictable behavior.
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Nope. You'll have better luck with Gingerbread at the moment.
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stankyou said:
Nope. You'll have better luck with Gingerbread at the moment.
via xda app
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I just installed MildWild, it says it's Android version 2.3.7 in the "about phone". Is that gingerbread or froyo or honeycomb or ICS?
Mildwild 4.3, bugless and with the feature to decide where to put each app (internal or ext). If you want more space and no problem about app dimension I really suggest CM 7.2.0.1 stable themes xperia
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paolo-red1 said:
Mildwild 4.3, bugless and with the feature to decide where to put each app (internal or ext). If you want more space and no problem about app dimension I really suggest CM 7.2.0.1 stable themes xperia
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Thank you! So you'd suggest Mildwild 4.3 over 5.0? What about CM7.2.0.1? Which do you think of the 3 would be best? Maybe I'll try Mildwild 5.0 and see if it works
Now I am on CM7.2.0.1 from nloooo. It is a rom out of the box, ready to install many apps and with a fast launcher. It also has cyanogenmod theme support.
So I suggest you to try this.
Try Elk's CM10 release. It's working pretty good for me. Data doesn't always turn on when I check the box, but I haven't flashed the latest version yet either.
paolo-red1 said:
Now I am on CM7.2.0.1 from nloooo. It is a rom out of the box, ready to install many apps and with a fast launcher. It also has cyanogenmod theme support.
So I suggest you to try this.
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Is there any way you could link me to this version plesae? I don't know what the nlooo version is, but from seeing the cm7.2.0.1 on the cm website, it seems it also has a lot of bugs?
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Try Elk's CM10 release. It's working pretty good for me. Data doesn't always turn on when I check the box, but I haven't flashed the latest version yet either.
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Sorry that would be too much of a bug for me with data, which I rely heavily on for synching everything for business. Thanks for the suggestion. CM10, I guess that's Jellybean or ICS? Probably too unstable for desire?
Nlooooo version is the one in my signature...
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I use cm9 spazedog it works without bugs .. also my data is never turnt off
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I just installed MildWild, it says it's Android version 2.3.7 in the "about phone". Is that gingerbread or froyo or honeycomb or ICS?
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2.x is Gingerbread
3.x is Honeycomb
4.0 is ICS
4.1 is Jelly Bean
I suggest to stick with 1 of the GB ROM's.
Is there any stability advantages of the nloooo version over the regular 7.2, or is it just it has the experia theme? Hard to understand all the different options. And what about the spazedog, that's ICS, right?
I think I should probably stick with the gingerbread, which MildWild is running, so I think I'll give MildWild a chance as I heard good things about it and hope it doesn't cause me pain!
ICS and stable/reliable don't mix together.
So I'd politely ask for drool party to stop. Op stated his requirements and 4.0 doesn't fit in if you walked on your eyebrows.
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Thanks for the bluntness erklat, I guess I can forget about 4.0 and just concentrate on gingerbread. Hopefully I don't run into any bugs with mildwild, fingers crossed!

[Q] The best rom??

Can someone tell me which rom is the best for htc desire? i need stable and fast rom... plzz help...
For you is best to use oxygen base : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1835221
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Let us place a bet on how long will it take for jb recommendations to start falling?
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I would say "Use p10 Nikez rom, its far more stable than any gingerbread rom" but I don't feel like trolling today lol
Nick's Phone Compiled From Oxy/Roalex With Mods, cm7r2 hboot
Very fast and stable
CM based roms seem to be stable and fast for most users.
Try them if you think "oxygen" is good but a little "naked".
On topic: I'm using MildWild 5.0. Fast, stable, looks good.
Troll-topic: Shaky's Sense 4.0 rom. Most stable I've ever seen.
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Nikez?
I have tried Sandvold's ROM (ICS) for a long time but switched to Nikez. Stable, clean and fast.
If you want to try: install i.e. 4EXT as recovery and stick to install-instructions and partitioning.
Also on Nikez site.
Goog luck!
i never knew "Pre Alpha" means....
RuudM said:
Nikez. Stable
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you learn something new everyday
I think he was talking about nikez's ICS rom. Still not stable.
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True, true, you're right: it's pre-alpha. And I was talking about Nikez JB P10.
As a 'normal user' of P10 I am very satisfied with this ROM and I do have some experience with other ROM's (not only Sandvold). Only a few things (thing?) does not work. Also, the forum-thread of Nikez JB P10 reads (almost) same opinions - if you filter the problems with installing 3d party scripts.
Even remarks as 'worht beta' can be read.
My suggestion is user-to-user (SeeZaar), from my point-of-view as a Desire-JB P10 user.
Cheers!
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I think he was talking about nikez's ICS rom. Still not stable.
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Erm..... No. The nikez link is JB. And he said he switched to nikez. Stable....
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Latest SpazeDog ICS ROM, I'm using it more than month, imo it's fast, smooth and perfect for daily use.
You should try JB/CM10 Elk759`s, I like it.
I think nikez is very brilliant.
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Let's stick to the topic.
SeeZaar said:
i need stable and fast rom...
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for stability and speed i would heartily recommend redux2-31.08-test which is a stripped gingerbread rom which i used exclusively for over a year. it has a wicked pull-down notification bar full of custom shortcuts. very stable despite the test title.
if you're looking for an ICS flavour i'd agree with earlier recommendations for spaze dog. i found it a bit more complicated to install successfully but once up & running it's been faultless.
hope that helps.
Coolexe's Cool Droid v3.
By reading those threads one could believe we have fully working & bug free ICS + JB. :silly:
gascomm said:
for stability and speed i would heartily recommend redux2-31.08-test which is a stripped gingerbread rom which i used exclusively for over a year. it has a wicked pull-down notification bar full of custom shortcuts. very stable despite the test title.
if you're looking for an ICS flavour i'd agree with earlier recommendations for spaze dog. i found it a bit more complicated to install successfully but once up & running it's been faultless.
hope that helps.
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Tried redux. Launcher is really slow and laggy.
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Gingerbread over ICS/JB ROMs?

At the risk of getting flamed, how come the most popular ROM (MildWild) is based on GB? I myself have a ICS/JB and the performance and stability is far above that of GB when it came to my SGS2 custom ROM experience. I'm going to guess that it's simply the best ROM?
For me it was simple, jb looks great, and performed quickly on my phone, but not everything worked. Using a 3rd party app for video recording was a simple solution for one problem that I had, but BBC iPlayer didn't work for me, add a few other niggles and it just wasn't worth it for me, though I still have a nandroid backup if I feel like a quick look again
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geokilla said:
At the risk of getting flamed, how come the most popular ROM (MildWild) is based on GB? I myself have a ICS/JB and the performance and stability is far above that of GB when it came to my SGS2 custom ROM experience. I'm going to guess that it's simply the best ROM?
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I think the most common problem is the lack of internal memory and ram that keeps Desire Users from updating to ICS/JB since most of the bigger apps need much storage and run instable.
Tried ICS too and went back to my CM7.
If you're looking for a ICS/JB ROM, go for VJ's CM10.1 port. Pretty decent
Yes the VJ ROM is very nice and fast but I love gaming and the ROM doesn't run hard games ... So for now I'm using Alex 1.8 ROM modded , nice and stable but not that fast as VJ Rom but I can bare with that for now .. when in VJ's ROM hard games will run , I will go back on it
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proadi96 said:
Yes the VJ ROM is very nice and fast but I love gaming and the ROM doesn't run hard games ... So for now I'm using Alex 1.8 ROM modded , nice and stable but not that fast as VJ Rom but I can bare with that for now .. when in VJ's ROM hard games will run , I will go back on it
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What hard games are you talking about? Been playing minecraft on latest VJ, unresponsive sometimes, but much better than in the previous versions, good speed and all :good:
proadi96 said:
Yes the VJ ROM is very nice and fast but I love gaming and the ROM doesn't run hard games ... So for now I'm using Alex 1.8 ROM modded , nice and stable but not that fast as VJ Rom but I can bare with that for now .. when in VJ's ROM hard games will run , I will go back on it
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lol just seen ur from wexford, im living in cork.

[Q] Most Parent Friendly ROM

So my dad has been using his One V for almost a year now. Was stock and unrooted. Slowly it has got slower and slower. Its reached the point where I have to factory reset anyway.
Is there a custom ROM that is more stable and smooth than Stock 4.0.4 and yet gives good battery life? Features irrelevant.
Thanks.
cm9
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aatifsumar said:
So my dad has been using his One V for almost a year now. Was stock and unrooted. Slowly it has got slower and slower. Its reached the point where I have to factory reset anyway.
Is there a custom ROM that is more stable and smooth than Stock 4.0.4 and yet gives good battery life? Features irrelevant.
Thanks.
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MyONE RC9.5 gr8 battery but CM9 is also good
Try cm10/slimbean
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aatifsumar said:
So my dad has been using his One V for almost a year now. Was stock and unrooted. Slowly it has got slower and slower. Its reached the point where I have to factory reset anyway.
Is there a custom ROM that is more stable and smooth than Stock 4.0.4 and yet gives good battery life? Features irrelevant.
Thanks.
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MyOneV rc 9.5 fx+ by ckpv5 have been using this Rom since I rooted my phone
Have flashed other roms but nothing seemed more comfortable than this fr daily use...
^ I agree, sense is the best if you don't want to mess around. And that Rom is especially good
I'd recommend Evervolv rom, unless he plans on taking pictures, because camera is broken on it (No app I've tried works)
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I'd recommend Evervolv rom, unless he plans on taking pictures, because camera is broken on it (No app I've tried works)
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lol camera worx just try Camera MX
BTW, dont think ur dad can handle Evervolv
MYONERC9.5 FTW!
soham_sss said:
Try cm10/slimbean
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I'd recommend Evervolv rom, unless he plans on taking pictures, because camera is broken on it (No app I've tried works)
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Both are not suitable for everyday work. At present, only CM9 stable, battery friendly and faster than Stockrom. :good:
Evervolv has but the chance to replace in the foreseeable future CM9. It is well on the way there.
cm10 IS suitable for everyday work, im using it, didnt find any bugs
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martijn99 said:
...., didnt find any bugs
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You use GPS with often toggle on/off and found no bug? Next Bug you found when show in Accuhistory. This two bugs have all CM10 roms.
yes cm10 has bugs
stop misguiding people!
RC9.5 is the best ROM for your dad to handle
i dont use any gps, so i didnt knew that it was a bug sorry
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Thanks for your suggestions you guys! Really appreciate it. Since he has used Sense 4 for a year already I am hesitant " c f c c of of to switch him to Cm9 and a learn a whole new way of using the phone.
Will go for the Sense based ROM.
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i dont use any gps, so i didnt knew that it was a bug sorry
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no prob m8
Myone 9.5. It is stable and excellent on battery life. Much faster than stock. This ROM was the ONLY thing that brought me back to sense!
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heross said:
Both are not suitable for everyday work. At present, only CM9 stable, battery friendly and faster than Stockrom. :good:
Evervolv has but the chance to replace in the foreseeable future CM9. It is well on the way there.
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I'm starting to agree with you know, I've been using Evervolv since about yesterday, and it's been a bit buggy for me now. I'm just hoping it gets more stable.
If you want a stable easy to use rom for your dad, I'd recommend CM9 as recommended by other users.
1ceb0x great work on Evervolv had made it stable now. Try it again with the new kernel.
Since CM10 is abonded I'd say the newest version of Evervolv is really, really great. Android 4.2.2, aosp. everything you want.
Just one "downside. default camera isnt working. Im using camera zoom fx for this and its a great application.
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