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[CONFIRMED] Rooting causes LoS

I saw earlier that people were saying that rooting the epic touch 4g may NOT be the cause of LoS. But I'm here to tell you that I only got the LoS after I rooted. All I did was root and install honeycomb battery + crt animation. The LoS was getting ridiculous, so I went back to the stock kernel and I'm LoS free. Just letting you guys know, this IS a root issue and it should be stated clearly for those who are considering rooting. I think it will just cuase a lot of grief for users if they are not properly warned, so please do so guys.

its not confirmed unless you have thousands of independent tests

Just a warning, you're about to get flamed for posting this in the development section. With that said, I too never received an LoS until the day after rooting the phone (had it for two weeks with no issues). Installing the LoS kernel has helped a ton, though.

i can also confirm that rooting caused my phone to experience an endless onslaught of LoS occurances. I had the phone for a month without any LoS issues, only ****ty battery life (losing 6-8%/hr idling over night). The day I rooted the phone, i experienced LoS three times. Installing the lostkernel helped and I only got one in three days, but I ended up switching to the EVO 3D since I coudl not stand the battery life.

I have never once had LoS, on either stock put root. I am one of the lucky ones. However in have read there are people out there that have LoS without routing, so I am not sure your confirmation is 100%.
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y0sup said:
I saw earlier that people were saying that rooting the epic touch 4g may NOT be the cause of LoS. But I'm here to tell you that I only got the LoS after I rooted. All I did was root and install honeycomb battery + crt animation. The LoS was getting ridiculous, so I went back to the stock kernel and I'm LoS free. Just letting you guys know, this IS a root issue and it should be stated clearly for those who are considering rooting. I think it will just cuase a lot of grief for users if they are not properly warned, so please do so guys.
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Unless you can explain why my COMPLETELY STOCK phone got struck with the LOS bug, then no, rooting is not the cause. It may TRIGGER the LOS bug, but it is NOT THE CAUSE.
Please try to do a data profile clear/update, that's what fixed my phone.

sorry before hand but whats los? loss of service??????

I experienced LoS before and after root. Now I know what it means when I read "your milage may vary ".
Now to another issue, just because your phone is showing reception or 1 bar doesn't mean you haven't LoS... lol, only way to find out is by placing a call...
Samsung is very good with destroying its reputation... Before it was their lazy late updates, now defective devices... I was 100% set to get Galaxy Nexus, then I heard Samsung... Hmmm makes me think three times and looking to alternatives, definitely will wait atleast few weeks before getting Nexus.
I would compare samsung to a sexy sl*t lol

Wrong section
wrong info
Horrible logic
Just total overall fail
One case does not mean confirmation, plenty of people on stock are getting this problem.
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[CONFIRMED] You're an Idiot....
Root and go back to stock kernel... or use the repack, bet yu have the same rate of LoS...its not rooting, kernels built from source have been shown to increase it. Even unrooted kernels... please do som research and get the facts straight before posting incorrect info.. especially in the wrong section...
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lol. Now comon our little section of the forum needs entertainment time to time.

In case everyone was with dwring if y0sup is a one-off offender, you need not search anymore http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6532397&postcount=32

My phone musta been dipped in unicorn piss! I've never had LOS stock or rooted. Running LoStkernel exp.
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y0sup, please post your full analysis, your abstract seems to be based on simple test/retest validity of one instance. I would like to see your lit review, research design, sample size, data analysis, findings, and any appendices you may have to support your hypothesis.

in my experience.. after I rooted.. I got one LoS and my Battery drained faster..

{CONFIRMED} Beans give me gas.
I know some folks out there eat beans and don't get gas, but let me tell you, beans cause gas. I never got gas until eating beans. Boy that was some nasty stuff. Because of this I'm returning the beans and demanding my money back.

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I know some folks out there eat beans and don't get gas, but let me tell you, beans cause gas. I never got gas until eating beans. Boy that was some nasty stuff. Because of this I'm returning the beans and demanding my money back.
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Lol
Sent from my mothapluckin' phone!

Wives phone+no root=los
My phone+ lostkernel= no los
I think from my findings that stock causes los
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Also confirmed. Galaxy s 3 will by delivered be Santa claus.
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Oh my goodness - closing this thread - it's already out of hand.
OP - follow the rules. Post in the right spot.

Battery Life dreadful after ITL41F

Hi Everyone,
I was wondering whether anybody else has experienced this side effect of the ITL41F update? My battery life has been really really good, much better than that of my HD7. I was really chuffed with it. Along comes the ITL41F update, and since then the battery will drain itself on standby. Nothing has changed on my phone. I have not installed any new apps or made any settings changes (such as sync frequency, etc). So the only difference is the ITL41F update.
To give you an idea, If I charge the phone in the late afternoon, and then pretty much leave it alone, by the morning it will have gone down to 15% battery or less. This morning I plugged it in again, and now it's down to 50%. And I only sent a single txt message and didn't do anything else on the phone. This is properly rubbish.
Anybody know where I can report this bug to Google/Samsung?
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Cheers Guys!
Mich

You have a lot of awake time without your screen been on which seems a little strange.
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I would say your mobile signal is using up a lot battery. when it is yellow that means its weak, and grey means no signal. Since this is the main 2 colours on your chart I would say this would be the main reason for your battery drain

Matcarroll said:
You have a lot of awake time without your screen been on which seems a little strange.
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What he said^^^
Something is keeping ur phone awake
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How would someone go about improving that? My mobile connection is mostly yellow as well. Could APN settings help that? Or would I have to go about flashing a different modem and all that
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How would someone go about improving that? My mobile connection is mostly yellow as well. Could APN settings help that? Or would I have to go about flashing a different modem and all that
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Are you seriously asking that question?
You improve your mobile signal but getting your network provider to install another mast, or switch to a different network with better coverage in your area.
If you could improve signal with APN settings or flashing a different radio it would be done like that from the factory!

WEll, I have a LG Optimus One and use franco kernel with it, and am soon buying a GN because he develops for it too, SO:
FLASH FRANCO KERNEL!
DOnate him a beer before and ten after the WOW-experience you'll get when you realise 4 days later that your battery is only 10% becuase of the popup.
And now read my words again.
It's the best option!

Your phone was awake for more than 50% of the time. If you really didn't use it, there's most likely a rogue app which is preventing phone from going into deep sleep.
Use an app like System panel to locate the culprit.

nevermind - delete me

Thanks for the fast replies guys, it's much appreciated! =)
What I find puzzling is that absolutely NOTHING has changed on the phone, apart from the update. So if there was a rogue app that was consuming the battery, it should have exhibited that behaviour before the update, right?
I will check with system monitor though, to see if I can spot something. The strange thing I noticed is that the OS is consuming *more* battery than most other functions. Even on standby.... weird!

After finally getting the patch I can't say the battery has been worse. In fact it seems to be better. Although I think that is down to the fact I've been through a few charge cycles now.

click on android OS, and check out the awake and CPU times. The cpu time should be a fractions of the time awake.
example, my phone has been on this charge for 22 hours (still 36% battery left.. didn't use it too much this charge). the leading battery drain is screen at 51% (2.5 hours awake time), and the 2nd leading item is Android OS which has the following:
CPU Total - 18m 53s
Keep Awake - 4h 46m 9s
I'm just curious on why your CPU total was in relation to the awake time by Android OS.

Mines great.
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its funny how many similar theads appear everytime a phone gets updated. And most of them all go down to user error.
Just saying. my Gnex is fine after 11F update, OP should probably do a wipe

Guys, I'm not ruling out 'user error', but at this moment in time I cannot see what I could have possibly done to cause it. I have purchased System Panel on the Market and I'm running it in monitoring mode to see if it can shed some light on the issue. Strangely, 'Cut the Rope' and 'Exchange' are running constantly and as a service. Not necessarily consuming CPU while the phone is asleep though. Just though it would be strange for a game to be running as a service? Must be a reason for it....

Ask the developper of "Cut the Rope" why does it need to run that way. Exchange is run as a service because you probably need it.
Anyways, you can try a clean flash with stock ITL41F. But i'd say apps are to blame
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do you lose root if you update?

tommy96814 said:
do you lose root if you update?
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Yes, but it's easy to do Superboot again.

mictho100 said:
Guys, I'm not ruling out 'user error', but at this moment in time I cannot see what I could have possibly done to cause it. I have purchased System Panel on the Market and I'm running it in monitoring mode to see if it can shed some light on the issue. Strangely, 'Cut the Rope' and 'Exchange' are running constantly and as a service. Not necessarily consuming CPU while the phone is asleep though. Just though it would be strange for a game to be running as a service? Must be a reason for it....
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Did you factory reset after the update? If not I realize it sucks to do, but.....that's the road I would venture down.....have yet to own a Samsung that it wasn't almost mandatory to do. Always a battery and sleep issue.
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No problems here
I'm using this phone on t mobile usa on my battery life is the same just like before the update.

[GUIDE] Locate lost phone

There are some issues that they lost their phone. Some of phones cannot be tracked. Our phone (GALAXY Y) has a GPS feature which can be track. Follow the steps below:
1. Go to Setting. Open Location and Security.
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2. Check Use GPS Satellites (May consume a little battery )
3. Scroll down, You will see Remote Controls. It will ask you to register. Complete the registration.
4. After the registration. Go to www.samsungdive.com and log-in.
5. After you log-in. You can now track you're mobile!
(Note: You can control your phone like wiping data, ringing mobile and more! Tracking may take a while depending on you're internet connection )

You forgot to mention that you will have to create a Samsung account for that
this doesn't works efficiently on my Galaxy Y connected in same WIFI network as my PC good internet speed yet this website doesn't detects or do anything on my phone

or you can just use lookout mobile

Will this work in a unit where wipe data has been done?
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If data is wiped it won't work anymore.
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I use "Where's My droid?" app for this.

I think for apps like these if you can pay, the best is where's my droid. Otherwise stick with Avast. Avast has some nifty root only features. Only way to get rid of it if rooted is to flash a new rom.
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Silvane said:
If data is wiped it won't work anymore.
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Not true man, if the phone is linked to your Samsung account (ie: registered) it will work. I have flashed my phone many times and wiped data many times and it still works, I just tested it now.
forgive me if I am misunderstanding you.

Oh? I meant if it was stolen and someone flashed a new rom over it. If you do that your Samsung account will have to be added again. And if it really is stolen, what thief would add your samsung account again just for the phone to be tracked? XD

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Oh? I meant if it was stolen and someone flashed a new rom over it. If you do that your Samsung account will have to be added again. And if it really is stolen, what thief would add your samsung account again just for the phone to be tracked? XD
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Ok gotcha, good point I understand now what you meant
I guess you would have to be fast then
I agree that Avast or "where's my Droid" is way better.

Guys, i will tell you my story about losing this phone. This is true story guys
One day, we had a P.E subject in our school, then, the pocket of our pants is too short, then i put my cell phone on it, on the time that i will go home, i ride on a jeepney, i have been chit-chatting to my friend , then, when i arrived, we go to our house , then i'm opening my door, and i'm so excited to charge my phone, i put my hand on my pocket, i was shocked! the phone was gone missing!, i immediately pray and ride to a bike (about 30km to find the jeepney i rode but i forgot the jeepney and the plate number) i had failed to search for it. my parents was so disappointed to me, after that day. I remembered that i created an account on samsungdive.com using my phone. Then, i located it! I was so happy that my phone was found! Then after a day, my mom took it for me, she said that she found it in zone 3 without some1 holding it, i think the one who took it was freaked out because i rung the mobile. Yes, i had my cellphone now, but the sim card was gone, tsk . I just requested to the attorney to make me affidavit of loss for 50 pesos and 99pesos for the recovery of the sim card number

let's just pray that the one who took it don't know how to flash or wipe data. hahaha

Nice thread sir very useful
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kundancool said:
You forgot to mention that you will have to create a Samsung account for that
this doesn't works efficiently on my Galaxy Y connected in same WIFI network as my PC good internet speed yet this website doesn't detects or do anything on my phone
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I had mention it, read number 3. And it works for me 100%

just activate sim change alert in ur phone. and when anyone change the sim then u know his no. after u complain to police. but if he flash the rom or reset to factory default then it was impossible to find your phone

SMS
Yeah, i can use that sim change alert. but i don't want.

NOTE: Sometimes, the GPS Location maybe wrong, it is because of Solar Storms

jeffcleds said:
Guys, i will tell you my story about losing this phone. This is true story guys
One day, we had a P.E subject in our school, then, the pocket of our pants is too short, then i put my cell phone on it, on the time that i will go home, i ride on a jeepney, i have been chit-chatting to my friend , then, when i arrived, we go to our house , then i'm opening my door, and i'm so excited to charge my phone, i put my hand on my pocket, i was shocked! the phone was gone missing!, i immediately pray and ride to a bike (about 30km to find the jeepney i rode but i forgot the jeepney and the plate number) i had failed to search for it. my parents was so disappointed to me, after that day. I remembered that i created an account on samsungdive.com using my phone. Then, i located it! I was so happy that my phone was found! Then after a day, my mom took it for me, she said that she found it in zone 3 without some1 holding it, i think the one who took it was freaked out because i rung the mobile. Yes, i had my cellphone now, but the sim card was gone, tsk . I just requested to the attorney to make me affidavit of loss for 50 pesos and 99pesos for the recovery of the sim card number
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an example of putting theory into action! glad you didn't lose your phone bro

leodasal2 said:
an example of putting theory into action! glad you didn't lose your phone bro
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I am so glad that i didn't lose my phone, i was so scared that day, and that day, my mom and dad was so very angry to me, i had it as a gift for being first honor in the class, last year, i was second year high school, my parents told me that they will never buy me a phone again, they said that i was so careless, i was so angry to whom took it, i'm glad that our phone has a gps feature. That's why, i tracked the phone

Not even two weeks in & getting another Nexus.

So long story short at the beginning of this month i called Verizon because i was having major issues with my Nexus and was able to get them to cough up a brand new one instead of refurbished device and was super excited, got the new phone and began having issues right out of the box. At first i thought it had to do with unlocking and rooting but found out soon enough it was something wrong with the device, i lost count on how many times ive gone back to stock and how many factory resets ive done.
Camera app would crash when i was focusing, zooming, turning flash on off & same with video record. I could only record for about 10 seconds (if that) before getting either a black screen or a beautiful force close screen and to top it off sometimes i would have to battery pull in order to even get the camera back up and running for another 10 seconds.
YouTube i couldnt watch more then 40 to 60 seconds of any video before it would completely just freeze except for the audio. I would force close this app and the audio would just keep going and this was no matter if i was on a call or not i could here the audio in the back round.
Other apps on the phone where behaving the same and today i finally was fed up so i made a trip down to the store and got the whole store involved with attempting to figure out what the hell was going on with it, manager said this is the first device since release that he or his employees have seen with this type of issue. What was even more shocking to him was that it was a brand new device and then he hit me with he couldnt give me another new one but a refurbished one that he could order so i decided to leave the store and come home to spend the last 45min on the phone with a VZW tech and finally i got him and his supervisor to budge, another new device should be here tomorrow and hopefully i wont have any issues with but only time will tell. My point of this post is to not only rant of course and get some feedback from members to see if anyone else out there is having or has had any issues like this??
I also thought about waiting for the supposedly 4.0.4 update to drop tomorrow but honestly at this point with how many factory resets ive done and have been running stock no unlock or root for two days i think its honestly something wrong with this damn phone i got rather then something wrong with permissions or anything like that. Anyhow so much for a short story let me know what you guys think.
Thanks.

Well...that just sounds like terrible, horrible luck...
Should have gotten an iPhone perhaps

the one u have should still be under warranty...send it back

Why do people say long story short... AND THERE STORY ISNT SHORT AT ALL.
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Why do people say long story short... AND THERE STORY ISNT SHORT AT ALL.
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Right? Lol.
...of the people, by the people, for the people...

I wanna hear the long version now.
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http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/412656/long-story-short

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Exactly what I was thinking of HA!
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You are lucky that you got a new one. I am receiving my fourth refurbished "like new" Galaxy Nexus from Verizon this week. Every single one I get mutes the audio on the other caller's end, and one of these phones also would drop data when it went to sleep.
I get the feeling that people are turning in their Nexus phones because of the dropping audio problem, and then Verizon is sending them right back out because they can't find the problem in their testing. How in the world could I get 4 straight broken Galaxy Nexuses?
I really don't want to have to switch to a Razr...

Should have gotten the refurbed one, atleast that way a human was working on it, to see if it functions right.
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Update from Verizon - Pulled Back?

There was an update for my Verizon Note 10+ 5G which supposedly failed and was successfully rolled back. I checked again and tried the PC tools which give me an error message saying my firmware is not compatible with the PC update tool. (I am NOT rooted.) I checked again OTA and now it says there is no update which means Verizon must have pulled it! I see no issues operationally with the phone - Note my s/w version as well. Anybody else run into this?
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With AT&T I'm more afraid of their updates and automated downloads/flashes than malware... lol, still on Pie.
Best to keep updates blocked, let it roll out and see how many get rolled over by it.
Give it a couple weeks and then decide.
With Q I'm still not satisfied enough to load it and as such the backlog of security updates remain pending.
Whatever.

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There was an update for my Verizon Note 10+ 5G which supposedly failed and was successfully rolled back. I checked again and tried the PC tools which give me an error message saying my firmware is not compatible with the PC update tool. (I am NOT rooted.) I checked again OTA and now it says there is no update which means Verizon must have pulled it! I see no issues operationally with the phone - Note my s/w version as well. Anybody else run into this?
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I don't think it was pulled. I got the update a couple of days ago with no failures.
I have the Verizon Note 10+ 5G. Stock not rooted.
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Then why does it say my upgrade failed but I have the most up to date version!?!?? What build do you have, does it match the build number in the photo shown of my phone?
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Girlfriends Verizon version got an update. She makes it known to tell me because of bad experiences with Verizon updates . I don't know what happened with hers though. She uses her pixel 4 as her personal but I'll ask.

coilbio said:
Girlfriends Verizon version got an update. She makes it known to tell me because of bad experiences with Verizon updates . I don't know what happened with hers though. She uses her pixel 4 as her personal but I'll ask.
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Thank you for your reply but mine is specific to the Note 10+ 5G, so what you suggest is like comparing Apples to Oranges. I have noticed also as you can see by the photos originally supplied, although it tells me the update failed, the software version has changed and that may be why it also says there is no update available. I may actually be running the later version or not, there is no way to really tell, either way it was handled very sloppily by Verizon and is concerning.
However, I have also heard, Google will be discontinuing the Pixel line of phones so as they say, every company is screwed up, they are just screwed up different ways...!
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I was talking about her note, she has 2 phones.

The August update is a battery hog and it's also caused Bluetooth issues. If I didn't have to wipe the phone, I'd go back to the July update. Maybe enough people complained and they quietly pulled it.

Guyinlaca said:
The August update is a battery hog and it's also caused Bluetooth issues. If I didn't have to wipe the phone, I'd go back to the July update. Maybe enough people complained and they quietly pulled it.
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Once I get a stable load that's running well, I leave it alone. Been running both Windows and Android like this for many years with very little trouble. As you are keenly aware of tracking down an update issue can be very time consuming*. Many times a hard reset due to malware be easier. Malware on Android has caused me only one hard reset in over 6 years.
I herd dinosaurs, lol, I take a conservative approach to updates because many times the cure is worse than the disease. A bare bones updated Windows or Android machine runs faster... I hate waiting.
Carriers are partnered with Samsung and jam their own crapware and app graphics "updates" in their too on OS upgrades.
These can make it usable... I remember the horror of Lollipop on my S4+, destroyed it... thanks AT&T. Not.
That's one reason I'm still running on Pie... with no issues.
*may be a settings issue. My Pie load runs best with all power management turned off especially 3rd party including Samsung. A new update means a Google search won't yield many solutions for it.
The first app I block is AT&T updates... no joke.

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Then why does it say my upgrade failed but I have the most up to date version!?!?? What build do you have, does it match the build number in the photo shown of my phone?
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I don't know. Look up that error code 410.
Like I said, I don't think it was pulled.
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Guyinlaca said:
The August update is a battery hog and it's also caused Bluetooth issues. If I didn't have to wipe the phone, I'd go back to the July update. Maybe enough people complained and they quietly pulled it.
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Odd. I'm not having battery or BT problems.
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