I saw earlier that people were saying that rooting the epic touch 4g may NOT be the cause of LoS. But I'm here to tell you that I only got the LoS after I rooted. All I did was root and install honeycomb battery + crt animation. The LoS was getting ridiculous, so I went back to the stock kernel and I'm LoS free. Just letting you guys know, this IS a root issue and it should be stated clearly for those who are considering rooting. I think it will just cuase a lot of grief for users if they are not properly warned, so please do so guys.
its not confirmed unless you have thousands of independent tests
Just a warning, you're about to get flamed for posting this in the development section. With that said, I too never received an LoS until the day after rooting the phone (had it for two weeks with no issues). Installing the LoS kernel has helped a ton, though.
i can also confirm that rooting caused my phone to experience an endless onslaught of LoS occurances. I had the phone for a month without any LoS issues, only ****ty battery life (losing 6-8%/hr idling over night). The day I rooted the phone, i experienced LoS three times. Installing the lostkernel helped and I only got one in three days, but I ended up switching to the EVO 3D since I coudl not stand the battery life.
I have never once had LoS, on either stock put root. I am one of the lucky ones. However in have read there are people out there that have LoS without routing, so I am not sure your confirmation is 100%.
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I saw earlier that people were saying that rooting the epic touch 4g may NOT be the cause of LoS. But I'm here to tell you that I only got the LoS after I rooted. All I did was root and install honeycomb battery + crt animation. The LoS was getting ridiculous, so I went back to the stock kernel and I'm LoS free. Just letting you guys know, this IS a root issue and it should be stated clearly for those who are considering rooting. I think it will just cuase a lot of grief for users if they are not properly warned, so please do so guys.
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Unless you can explain why my COMPLETELY STOCK phone got struck with the LOS bug, then no, rooting is not the cause. It may TRIGGER the LOS bug, but it is NOT THE CAUSE.
Please try to do a data profile clear/update, that's what fixed my phone.
sorry before hand but whats los? loss of service??????
I experienced LoS before and after root. Now I know what it means when I read "your milage may vary ".
Now to another issue, just because your phone is showing reception or 1 bar doesn't mean you haven't LoS... lol, only way to find out is by placing a call...
Samsung is very good with destroying its reputation... Before it was their lazy late updates, now defective devices... I was 100% set to get Galaxy Nexus, then I heard Samsung... Hmmm makes me think three times and looking to alternatives, definitely will wait atleast few weeks before getting Nexus.
I would compare samsung to a sexy sl*t lol
Wrong section
wrong info
Horrible logic
Just total overall fail
One case does not mean confirmation, plenty of people on stock are getting this problem.
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[CONFIRMED] You're an Idiot....
Root and go back to stock kernel... or use the repack, bet yu have the same rate of LoS...its not rooting, kernels built from source have been shown to increase it. Even unrooted kernels... please do som research and get the facts straight before posting incorrect info.. especially in the wrong section...
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lol. Now comon our little section of the forum needs entertainment time to time.
In case everyone was with dwring if y0sup is a one-off offender, you need not search anymore http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6532397&postcount=32
My phone musta been dipped in unicorn piss! I've never had LOS stock or rooted. Running LoStkernel exp.
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y0sup, please post your full analysis, your abstract seems to be based on simple test/retest validity of one instance. I would like to see your lit review, research design, sample size, data analysis, findings, and any appendices you may have to support your hypothesis.
in my experience.. after I rooted.. I got one LoS and my Battery drained faster..
{CONFIRMED} Beans give me gas.
I know some folks out there eat beans and don't get gas, but let me tell you, beans cause gas. I never got gas until eating beans. Boy that was some nasty stuff. Because of this I'm returning the beans and demanding my money back.
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I know some folks out there eat beans and don't get gas, but let me tell you, beans cause gas. I never got gas until eating beans. Boy that was some nasty stuff. Because of this I'm returning the beans and demanding my money back.
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Lol
Sent from my mothapluckin' phone!
Wives phone+no root=los
My phone+ lostkernel= no los
I think from my findings that stock causes los
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Also confirmed. Galaxy s 3 will by delivered be Santa claus.
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Oh my goodness - closing this thread - it's already out of hand.
OP - follow the rules. Post in the right spot.
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went to a sprint store and the sprint representive said the EE03 for the epic 4g was a fake and was not the real gingerbread but a covered up version of 2.2 froyo is this really true????
Lol are you serious? The guys messing with you
xDDDDD. Wait you were serious? Sorry.
He's messing with you man. EE03 is a leaked version of 2.3.3, it most certainly NOT 2.2!
No. Otherwise Netflix wouldn't work on it. It is NOT an official release but a beta version. There will be later versions before it is released.
i can't speak for others, but IMHO the devs in this community know more than 99% of "Sprint store" employees about what is going on with the epic and with gingerbread.
Have you tried running the leaked EE03 rom? it has some functionality to it that is definitely an improvement over stock EC05 froyo, but also definitely a little way to go before a fully functional gingerbread release.
on a different note -- anyone hear about the progress of EE19?
i can haz moar ginjurbreds nao?
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i can't speak for others, but IMHO the devs in this community know more than 99% of "Sprint store" employees about what is going on with the epic and with gingerbread.
Have you tried running the leaked EE03 rom? it has some functionality to it that is definitely an improvement over stock EC05 froyo, but also definitely a little way to go before a fully functional gingerbread release.
on a different note -- anyone hear about the progress of EE19?
i can haz moar ginjurbreds nao?
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yes i am running it. and i was running it when i went to the sprint store and showed them that, and even said i had netflix and they still said it was a tweeked version of froyo and they say that the nexus s is the better phone. LOL really its the same except for the NFC radio
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yes i am running it. and i was running it when i went to the sprint store and showed them that, and even said i had netflix and they still said it was a tweeked version of froyo and they say that the nexus s is the better phone. LOL really its the same except for the NFC radio
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sounds like they just wanted to try to sell you a new phone. nexus s may have some things that are better than the epic (like being a purely google device), but with these gingerleaks here and the real gingerbread on the way the epic is still the best phone for me.
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sounds like they just wanted to try to sell you a new phone. nexus s may have some things that are better than the epic (like being a purely google device), but with these gingerleaks here and the real gingerbread on the way the epic is still the best phone for me.
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I Totally have to agree the epic 4g is clearly a better phone if you screw up with it or something i have always been able to reset it and sprint techs not even having a clue i did that.
So, I work for sprint and I can tell you that xda has more info than we do. They don't really tell us much at all, xda would have info up for weeks before they officially tell us anything. Kind of funny
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I am so stealing that.
catman9712 said:
yes i am running it. and i was running it when i went to the sprint store and showed them that, and even said i had netflix and they still said it was a tweeked version of froyo and they say that the nexus s is the better phone. LOL really its the same except for the NFC radio
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Cell store employees are i my personnel experience are dumb ass mofos. like car salesmen.
I Verizon tech fried my phone once, I was out of state & the ****ing pricks would not upgrade my phone on the spot after that. I was so pissed a cop came & then the cop sided with me and told them ther where full of **** & left after i told him i would not kick there asss all over the store
Go back in there and tell him how stupid he is.
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Oh I did tell them how stupid they was
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Oh I did tell them how stupid they was
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were. how stupid they were.
.. shakes magic 8-ball...
My sources say NO
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are. how stupid they are.
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FTFY
I don't think anything magically made them smarter overnight...
he has no clue its the same issue my verzon friends with the fascinate were having they were told the update they had was froyo (2.2) when verizon only had a cover up of eclair at the time (2.1.2)
the LEAKED gingerbread is not within their knoledge because it is leaked, thus we know more than they do... because they only know OFFICIAL RELEASES
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I am so stealing that.
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me too, love it.
Thought I just share this, dunno if hes joking or not tho
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Thought I just share this, dunno if hes joking or not tho
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Wow. At first I thought he was being sarcastic. Now, I'm not so sure. Why doesn't he start developing for Apple then if it's that much better? Oh, wait, he needs that cash cow-CWM.
Wow. I can understand trashing Google products if he doesn't like them but to give props to apple, that's more than I can understand.
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Who cares CWM is a pos anyways. Shame we never got the promised twrp. Cwm touch...lol brick plz
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Koush is a skilled developer. Maybe he works for apple now
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I see nothing wrong with that post.
I'm just curious as to what triggered this outburst..?
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Wow. At first I thought he was being sarcastic. Now, I'm not so sure. Why doesn't he start developing for Apple then if it's that much better? Oh, wait, he needs that cash cow-CWM.
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Yes he gets so much money from cwm ...atleast get it right if your going to ***** he gets money from every stupid Noooob who buys stupid Ass ROM manager....he actually gets nothing from cwm do you pay anything for cwm and I bet you have never donated to him either so in reality all you do is leech his stuff
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Dude it was a Troll post....
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/esffMmA6fVy
Read that. Everyone just got trolled hard.
cidica said:
Dude it was a Troll post....
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/esffMmA6fVy
Read that. Everyone just got trolled hard.
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Lol.
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cidica said:
Dude it was a Troll post....
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/esffMmA6fVy
Read that. Everyone just got trolled hard.
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Trolling doesn't always mean direct sarcasm, I read this as Koush trying to start controversy. I'm pretty sure he meant what he said because it's basically true. Microsoft and Google (and every single phone vendor) routinely release devices with tons of bugs, because devs are already working on the new version and they know they can just patch things later on. I don't pretend to know if it's a matter of skill, lack of testing, or lack of Steve Jobs ashes.
Example: Everyone made a big deal when we found out that holding the iPhone 4 a certain way killed the signal, but I honestly cannot believe there wasn't a similar outrage over the LOS bug the ET4G had at launch. The iPhone signal bug, while unfortunate, was easily fixed by either getting a case or just holding it differently! Compare this to our phone's LOS bug. Fortunately for me I was able to flash a leaked modem to fix my phone, but you can't expect normal people to do that. Most people had to wait way too long for an OTA that fixed something that should have been fixed before launch.
patthew said:
Trolling doesn't always mean direct sarcasm, I read this as Koush trying to start controversy. I'm pretty sure he meant what he said because it's basically true. Microsoft and Google (and every single phone vendor) routinely release devices with tons of bugs, because devs are already working on the new version and they know they can just patch things later on. I don't pretend to know if it's a matter of skill, lack of testing, or lack of Steve Jobs ashes.
Example: Everyone made a big deal when we found out that holding the iPhone 4 a certain way killed the signal, but I honestly cannot believe there wasn't a similar outrage over the LOS bug the ET4G had at launch. The iPhone signal bug, while unfortunate, was easily fixed by either getting a case or just holding it differently! Compare this to our phone's LOS bug. Fortunately for me I was able to flash a leaked modem to fix my phone, but you can't expect normal people to do that. Most people had to wait way too long for an OTA that fixed something that should have been fixed before launch.
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That's why you buy HTC phones over Samsung.
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That's why you buy HTC phones over Samsung.
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That's why you buy Nokia flip phones over android.
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I'm thinking we'll leave this one for G+ and FB
---Jay--- From the E4GT
The rom selection is not very good and the roms themselves are full of issues save for the gb ones.
Wtf are u talking about? We have a few JB roms out. we have as much dev support as any phone on XDA!!!!
Have u tried blu kuban its amazing. The cm9 is almost a daily what the f#@k else do u want for the devs to suck u off too!!!!!!!
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Not sure if we see the same things.. Lately the devs have been cranking away with the epic 4G touch..
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the ics ones suffer the same issues ff18 stock have
but i do have high hopes for the JB one just posted
as far as choice theres not much
the one i was very much liking isnt being worked on atm (he said hes working on jb so I guess thats a good thing lol)
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the ics ones suffer the same issues ff18 stock have
but i do have high hopes for the JB one just posted
as far as choice theres not much
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U are confusing. Not sure what planet u are on or what universe. Samsung/sprint put out a ****ty update and u want the devs to fix it? U know most devs don't do this for a living right ? Also we have a huge assortment of roms. We have atleast 7 roms active being updated daily . Plus cm9 and now JB which one is cm10 and posted and one is not cuz of people like u whining that a alpha ROM has bugs
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I am running agats tFE22_v0.1.0
Just an issue of losing wifi when the phone goes to deep sleep, but other than that it's great.
No real development recently though, except people theming roms and calling themselves developers
We should have a few stable builds of jelly bean soon? If you want loads of choices in roms maybe switch to a GSM phone
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I am running agats tFE22_v0.1.0
Just an issue of losing wifi when the phone goes to deep sleep, but other than that it's great.
No real development recently though, except people theming roms and calling themselves developers
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Thats what Im saying
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If you want loads of choices in roms maybe switch to a GSM phone
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Why is that the best response to this lol.......I am just trying to point it out lol
So far the worthwhile roms are touched by gs3, aokp and cm9.....cm10 now lol but that is laggy maybe its my phone who knows
The other two are well on the way to being amazing just need stability responsiveness and MHL ability
Also why isnt the CM9 for our phone official? ATT version is.....
You're blind........ The clear and only choice, Blu Kuban. It blows everything else out of the water. Like somebody else said, get a new phone or you can develop your own rom to your specifications.
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You're blind........ The clear and only choice, Blu Kuban. It blows everything else out of the water. Like somebody else said, get a new phone or you can develop your own rom to your specifications.
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Oh dear why must that be the response I get? I hate to say this but if you purchase a gnex and give it to me I will take it lol
And as you said the only choice doesnt really give the impression of choice lol
Have the devs moved on to other phones? Are they working on something awesome?
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Oh dear why must that be the response I get? I hate to say this but if you purchase a gnex and give it to me I will take it lol
And as you said the only choice doesnt really give the impression of choice lol
Have the devs moved on to other phones? Are they working on something awesome?
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As I said, if you don't like the choice in roms which there are a lot, develop your own.
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Check the development section. Plenty of options for you. Hell, there are even builds of JB for this device not even posted on here.
---Jay--- From the CM10'd GNex™
Whys that always another typical response? Why cant it be something like maybe they are working on something else? Why must I get smartallecky remarks?
So I'm planning on getting the Gs3 in about a week. $300 for the phone, original packaging and a couple cases. Just wanted some input on if that's a decent deal and if you guys would do it. I used my upgrade a few months ago to get the EVO LTE, but I want to try something different for awhile. Thanks
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So I'm planning on getting the Gs3 in about a week. $300 for the phone, original packaging and a couple cases. Just wanted some input on if that's a decent deal and if you guys would do it. I used my upgrade a few months ago to get the EVO LTE, but I want to try something different for awhile. Thanks
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Thats not a bad deal bro I paid 200 for mine with a upgrade n u will love the s3 its a bad a$$ phone but I say that's a dahg good deal bro jump on that don't pass that up
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So I'm planning on getting the Gs3 in about a week. $300 for the phone, original packaging and a couple cases. Just wanted some input on if that's a decent deal and if you guys would do it. I used my upgrade a few months ago to get the EVO LTE, but I want to try something different for awhile. Thanks
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They're actually going for 350-400 so that's not a bad price. I have a few buyers set to buy mines at $375ish.
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My only reservation is that I have had Samsung phones and was not very happy, but it seems like they got this one right. My biggest concern is Samsungs gps. Did they get it working good?
there aren't a lot of complaints on the forums.. so no, gps works pretty well. i can practically use navigation inside my house, even indoors it seems to gps lock fairly quick.
That's what I figured, I haven't read anything negative about it anywhere. I appreciate all the input.
i know what your talking about, i had that problem with the nexus, but it isn't a issue here.
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metalfan78 said:
My only reservation is that I have had Samsung phones and was not very happy, but it seems like they got this one right. My biggest concern is Samsungs gps. Did they get it working good?
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Well this is my first Sammy. Although I miss my team and thread lol, I'm extremely happy so far. Haven't lost lte either. Witless radios are great. Do it up!
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Good deal. Have a look at the note 2 also.
I looked at the Note. It's a too big for me.
Man this phone looks easy to root too. I had the Samsung vibrant when I was on Tmobile and rooting and using Odin was a cakewalk. I always wished htc would become this root friendly.
Man I've had the epic 4g the epic 4g touch and the s3 and this is definitely the best. I can get gps indoors for the first time and the battery life is double for me!
A great phone you won't be disappointed!
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Man this phone looks easy to root too. I had the Samsung vibrant when I was on Tmobile and rooting and using Odin was a cakewalk. I always wished htc would become this root friendly.
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amend on that bro HTC sux on rooting so dang fragile
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I've been doing a little research and I've come across a lot of threads in various forums about poor signal strength and dropped calls on the s3. Does it still suffer from this problem? I never came across anyone saying it was fixed.
metalfan78 said:
I've been doing a little research and I've come across a lot of threads in various forums about poor signal strength and dropped calls on the s3. Does it still suffer from this problem? I never came across anyone saying it was fixed.
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I think that just a aokp or aosp roms bro I'm using a tw ron n I don't have that problem at all n a lot it stands what modem ur using to bud
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Good to know, I don't use aosp or aokp roms anyway.
metalfan78 said:
I've been doing a little research and I've come across a lot of threads in various forums about poor signal strength and dropped calls on the s3. Does it still suffer from this problem? I never came across anyone saying it was fixed.
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Depending upon your area, it's not so much the phone as much as it is that Sprint service sucks right now due to the NV upgrades. I haven't been happier with a phone since I started using smart phones with the OG Droid a few years back. It's stable, sturdy, easy to customize, and depending on which ROM you choose the battery life is KILLER!!!!
Get the gs3 I had the evo lte and don't miss it much
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Hey I wouldn't root it right away man. Keep it stock for a couple weeks at least.. Get your jb update or manually update it to jb and you'll love it even more lol. Best phone I've ever had =D
I always root right away, there's no reason for me to wait to do that.
OK so i know this info is scattered around, but frankly i am a little confused at this point. i'll start with my situation.
i'm running slick ricks AOKP JB rom. i was on build three for very long, skipping several updates until milestone 1.2. i did a dirty flash (right over build three) and it seemed to work, until i started to have battery issues. my phone would die if i used it for more than a minute anywhere under 60%, and was unable to power back on. upon plugging it in, the battery started charging right back up from 60% or whatever percentage it died at. i blame my dirty flash. i upgraded to 1.3 and it's even worse, it dies anywhere under 90% now.
so, i was thinking i need to just bite the bullet and start from el26 with cwm. but i started to get confused at about this point. if i'm using a jellybean rom, do i need to use "JB Touch-Wiz Based Kernels" or is it okay to flash from el26?
second, it has been very very long since i had to go back to stock and i was just gonna try and start from el26 and see how it went, without bothering yall. i clicked on the link in the sticky thread w/ all the kernels and get redirected to a new repository. can someone confirm that this section is what i want to be using? and the oneclick exes are probably most dummy proof, yes?
thanks in advance guys. i was never very pro at this, and now i'm just in need of some clarification.
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knew i was missing something... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903252 flashing now and i'll report back.
ok. i'm on gingerbread for now. gosh touch wiz is sooo ugly why samsung....
anyway the battery is still out of control. the black gaps are where it dies.
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ok. i'm on gingerbread for now. gosh touch wiz is sooo ugly why samsung....
anyway the battery is still out of control. the black gaps are where it dies.
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Before you do anything else please pull the battery and try to spin it on a flat surface.
$100 says it spins... and all your problems are due to a bad battery.
Exchange it, replace it.. and those problems will go away. :angel:
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Before you do anything else please pull the battery and try to spin it on a flat surface.
$100 says it spins... and all your problems are due to a bad battery.
Exchange it, replace it.. and those problems will go away. :angel:
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wow i have been wanting to just throw my phone at a wall for like 2 weeks now. it does spin, and it's noticably bloated looking and i never even thought to look at it like that... OOOMMGGG. haha. ok. so i have a spare battery but it's only 1500 mah so i usually keep it swapped out. going to do some testing here. this is nuts. so its possible i never even truly needed to go back to stock even...
but yea it spins on both sides. my extra is totally flat. that's amazing.
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so i pay the 8 bux a month or whatever, on my bill, thru sprint for the warranty. is the battery covered? anyone know if its worth going to a store to try and get a free replacement?
husker apollo said:
wow i have been wanting to just throw my phone at a wall for like 2 weeks now. it does spin, and it's noticably bloated looking and i never even thought to look at it like that... OOOMMGGG. haha. ok. so i have a spare battery but it's only 1500 mah so i usually keep it swapped out. going to do some testing here. this is nuts. so its possible i never even truly needed to go back to stock even...
but yea it spins on both sides. my extra is totally flat. that's amazing.
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so i pay the 8 bux a month or whatever, on my bill, thru sprint for the warranty. is the battery covered? anyone know if its worth going to a store to try and get a free replacement?
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Go in and show them it spins. Any store supporting TEP should replace it for free. If you have time call ahead and make sure you get that same answer as well as a name to hold accountable. Should avoid most hassles that way.
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garwynn said:
Go in and show them it spins. Any store supporting TEP should replace it for free. If you have time call ahead and make sure you get that same answer as well as a name to hold accountable. Should avoid most hassles that way.
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just reporting in 24 hours later, my spare battery has no issues. it's very likely i never had to go thru the hassle of going back to stock. i'm on slick's 1.3 build again and happy happy happy. hopefully this info helps out anyone else with bizarre power issues. i'm going to go into a sprint shop over the weekend and see if i can't get a free replacement for the samsung battery, i'll let y'all know how that goes.