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In-place upgrade for JB's release? Please help

If someone can PLEASE answer this question for me I would really appreciate it. I recently rooted my S3 so I can download and use rooted apps. I also changed my battery and wifi icons to look like ICS's icons (the blue ones) and removed some the samsung applications with root uninstaller. Will updating to Jellybean ruin my phone or something? Would I need to re-root my phone after installing it when its released? I want to keep all my apps and information as well. I figure this would be a upgrade like how windows does it. T'm new to this just so you guys know.
From another thread someone mention about devs making JB roms for rooted phones which leaves me to my next question
When a dev pushes out the updated JB ROM how will that be different compare to how samsung does it? Will it remove all my apps and personal information?Or is it like upgrading a operating system like windows? Also would there version of JB be like a stock rom or like Samsung with touch wize. I still want my camera to work as well as wifi. I heard from other thread they dont seem to work when updating roms?

javier180 said:
If someone can PLEASE answer this question for me I would really appreciate it. I recently rooted my S3 so I can download and use rooted apps. I also changed my battery and wifi icons to look like ICS's icons (the blue ones) and removed some the samsung applications with root uninstaller. Will updating to Jellybean ruin my phone or something? Would I need to re-root my phone after installing it when its released? I want to keep all my apps and information as well. I figure this would be a upgrade like how windows does it. T'm new to this just so you guys know.
From another thread someone mention about devs making JB roms for rooted phones which leaves me to my next question
When a dev pushes out the updated JB ROM how will that be different compare to how samsung does it? Will it remove all my apps and personal information?Or is it like upgrading a operating system like windows? Also would there version of JB be like a stock rom or like Samsung with touch wize. I still want my camera to work as well as wifi. I heard from other thread they dont seem to work when updating roms?
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Any rom that a developer makes is not going to be an official release and therefore will need to be flashed, this will wipe everything. Usually when people flash roms they use a tool such as Titanium Backup to backup all their apps and stuff. If you don't want to lose any data you would have to wait for an OTA (over the air) update for JB, this will keep all your data in tact although to do a OTA update you have to have all the stock apps I believe.

Halmo said:
Any rom that a developer makes is not going to be an official release and therefore will need to be flashed, this will wipe everything. Usually when people flash roms they use a tool such as Titanium Backup to backup all their apps and stuff. If you don't want to lose any data you would have to wait for an OTA (over the air) update for JB, this will keep all your data in tact although to do a OTA update you have to have all the stock apps I believe.
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Im new to the terms.. isnt flash the same as install?
Also, I used Odin to root my phone, How would I go about flashing the JB rom to my phone? Hopefully I'm saying this right. The thing I dont get since Samsung is releasing JB to the s3 why would the JB work flawless with the s3. Couldnt they use the Nexus 7's JB and port it to the S3. I'm still trying to understand how all this works. I dont want to have any hardware issues, like my camera or wifi not working from what i heard in the past.

Good for you on successfully rooting your phone and doing a few things to make it suit you more better. But you will have to do some searching and alot of reading to understand some more.
Right now your phone is rooted Samsung doesn't want to update your phone cause you've already kinda said I don't like the way you do things samsung by rooting your phone. If you want, you can unroot your phone and flash a stock jelly bean rom when and if it gets released and then re-root your phone and do some more changes if you need or want to with the new update. Issue with this is that you have to wait and it takes longer for Samsung to release updates than third party developers can create them, there are pros and cons to doing third party roms same with using stock manufacture releases. its all comes down to the person you are and what you want from your phone. No one can tell you what to do and what is right to do thats your choice because mainly there are lots of choices with these phones.
With that being said its rumoured that samsung will be releasing jelly bean faster than it did other updates, but thats a rumour still. I haven't been following the development of the SG3 lots as I'm pretty happy with my rooted ICS at the moment and don't mind waiting. I don't think there is a clean stable Jelly Bean rom out there at the moment, I know they are coming and are being worked on very hard but the great teams at XDA. I also know the international version has a little more support than the North American versions.
When and if you decide to get a third party rom there are different ways you can install or flash them. Developers will almost always have clear instructions on how to install them, usually requires you backing up cause you'll lose everything and downloading a zip file putting it onto your phone and installing it with Clock Work Mod, if you don't know what that is search for it there is lots of info on it. You can also flash the updates with odin but I believe Clock Work Mod "CWM" is the better way of doing it.
Also just because jelly bean is on other devices doesn't mean its easy to bring it over to another device there are hardware differences, especially between manufactures, features are different and lots and lots of other things, its not like windows and you cant put it onto any device and it just figures it out and works.

Its_Dave said:
Good for you on successfully rooting your phone and doing a few things to make it suit you more better. But you will have to do some searching and alot of reading to understand some more.
Right now your phone is rooted Samsung doesn't want to update your phone cause you've already kinda said I don't like the way you do things samsung by rooting your phone. If you want, you can unroot your phone and flash a stock jelly bean rom when and if it gets released and then re-root your phone and do some more changes if you need or want to with the new update. Issue with this is that you have to wait and it takes longer for Samsung to release updates than third party developers can create them, there are pros and cons to doing third party roms same with using stock manufacture releases. its all comes down to the person you are and what you want from your phone. No one can tell you what to do and what is right to do thats your choice because mainly there are lots of choices with these phones.
With that being said its rumoured that samsung will be releasing jelly bean faster than it did other updates, but thats a rumour still. I haven't been following the development of the SG3 lots as I'm pretty happy with my rooted ICS at the moment and don't mind waiting. I don't think there is a clean stable Jelly Bean rom out there at the moment, I know they are coming and are being worked on very hard but the great teams at XDA. I also know the international version has a little more support than the North American versions.
When and if you decide to get a third party rom there are different ways you can install or flash them. Developers will almost always have clear instructions on how to install them, usually requires you backing up cause you'll lose everything and downloading a zip file putting it onto your phone and installing it with Clock Work Mod, if you don't know what that is search for it there is lots of info on it. You can also flash the updates with odin but I believe Clock Work Mod "CWM" is the better way of doing it.
Also just because jelly bean is on other devices doesn't mean its easy to bring it over to another device there are hardware differences, especially between manufactures, features are different and lots and lots of other things, its not like windows and you cant put it onto any device and it just figures it out and works.
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I cant thank you enough for this reply. It was very informative! I been doing some research as well so I can get a better understanding on how these roms work. As sad as this sounds I found out cyanogenmod10 is basically a mod rom of jellybean. If these rumors are in fact true, would the jellybean release from samsung speed of the developing process for cyanogenmod10? Since they should share the same code or what not.
I think at this point I dont care to backup. All my pics are sync to my dropbox automatically and my can go to the playstore and redownload my payed apps there. So backing up is not needed with me.

Yeah, CM10 is a 4.1.1 rom as far as I know, I still have my old i9000 and installed it on it the other day. Its nice and has all the jelly bean features, I find it a bit laggy but all the functions work great. The laggyness is hard to say, the phone is old but they are also still porting over all the features, I think its a bit of both at the moment but since its not my daily main phone I don't play with it alot.
The Cyanogenmod is a great rom, and lots of third party roms are based off that rom just with other mods on top of it. Personally since its still a beta like it says in the forum i'm willing to wait and the rumours on jelly bean coming from samsung at the end of august seem to me more true by the day. And once that is released or leaked CM will be alot better faster. But you never know still waiting on ICS from those slow pokes on my tab 10.1 while in the mean time they have released two more tables with ICS haha.
So like i have said before its really up to you. You can install the beta and try it out, I know people are using it as a daily driver. And you can always flash back to stock.

[Q] JB 4.1.2 update for India

Hi,
I am from India and using Gnex ("yakju") unlocked phone with JB 4.1.1 version. I am planning to upgrade my phone with 4.1.2 build since it is released. But the OTA update on my phone does not show any new version and still says "Phone is up to date".
Can someone please suggest me what could be the reason here.
Thanks a lot for your time.
Bhupinder

First, your location really has nothing to do with the OTA. If you're running yakju or takju, the software update will come to you quickly regardless of where you happen to live at that time.
As far as the 4.1.2 OTA goes, very very very few people are actually seeing it. I find it hard to believe that its even rolling out officially yet. If you're anxious for 4.1.2 you can flash the stock image, which is available. Otherwise, just wait for it to show up and notify you that it's ready to download. It will come, there's nothing special you need to do.

Thanks a lot for clearing my doubts. I was under the impression that 4.1.2 is released via OTA.
And surely I will wait for the release to be available by Google.

bhupinder08 said:
Thanks a lot for clearing my doubts. I was under the impression that 4.1.2 is released via OTA.
And surely I will wait for the release to be available by Google.
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Correct me if i'm wrong but I couldn't find any significant changes for Gnex on 4.1.2 changelogs...

[Q] Is "Fota Kill" app. android version or phone model related?

Is "Fota Kill" app. android version or phone model related?
I ask this because I found at least three diferent sizes...(1K, 23K, 29K)
And how to use it - if someone can do that for me, step by step, I am very grateful!
What I want is to keep the 4.0.4 rom - and the notification for OTA update is keep coming...
Thank you!

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I really wonder why you wanna stay on 4.0.4 . In my humble opinion, ICS should be dead by now especially on GNex
Let us know if there is a specific feature in ICS that you don't wanna miss in JB so hopefully we can help you upgrading and finding that feature for you as well

I updated my phone from 4.0.4 to 4.1.1 (OTA) in the day I bought it and for two weeks I have sudden reboots, sleep of death and a lot of other problems. The store replace the phone and recomand me for this new one to keep the rom (4.0.4) as the best for this model. And for now I have more than 50 hours up time and not a single issue. So I realy want to keep this one. But the annoying ota update message popped up every two minutes. So how can I get rid of it?

I really can't be convinced with what the store told you because sooooo many users have upgraded to JB. Some are facing slower performance on 4.2.1 and they are sticking to 4.1.2 but not for ICS at all. Moreover, if the store replaced the whole phone then maybe that device was defected, so it is not JB because JB is not slower or having troubles compared to ICS especially because of project butter in JB.
My recommendation for you is to give it another try with JB. Try 4.1.2 or 4.2.1 as I found both of them very fine honestly. You will easily find so many threads in this forum to help you make a clean installation instead of using OTA update if you want to change. Personally I never did an OTA update because I like wiping everything and starting fresh with every android version
Regarding how to use FOTA Kill, the answer is up there in the thread I mentioned in my previous post so just head there and read the posts then you will find another link to show you how to use the app. Good Luck

robotila999 said:
I updated my phone from 4.0.4 to 4.1.1 (OTA) in the day I bought it and for two weeks I have sudden reboots, sleep of death and a lot of other problems. The store replace the phone and recomand me for this new one to keep the rom (4.0.4) as the best for this model. And for now I have more than 50 hours up time and not a single issue. So I realy want to keep this one. But the annoying ota update message popped up every two minutes. So how can I get rid of it?
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As you'll need an unlocked device + root for FOTAKill anyway, give the 4.1.2 another try. 4.2.x is kinda buggy ATM, but 4.1.2 really is a good stock ROM. So get a Google stock image and apply FOTAkill there, to avoid 4.2.

Thanks for the help! I wait to pass the holidays - in case of something will goes wrong - and I will try to do a clean installation. Until then, is there any method - application or something to get rid of the annoying OTA uppdate message?

Not without root.

Hey guys

Just a quick question i like running stocked rooted but hate when get the otas and having to unroot to update my phone
Does anyone have a idea when the 4.2 or a ota might happen ?
Im running stock at the moment and dont want to root and then next week a ota comes out
Any tips or help would be gratefully appreciated
Sent From My Samsung Galaxy S3

otterboxfan4l said:
Just a quick question i like running stocked rooted but hate when get the otas and having to unroot to update my phone
Does anyone have a idea when the 4.2 or a ota might happen ?
Im running stock at the moment and dont want to root and then next week a ota comes out
Any tips or help would be gratefully appreciated
Sent From My Samsung Galaxy S3
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When 4.1.2 came out, I just waited for a zip of the rooted version was posted. I also prefer to not get the ota and wait just to see if it's worth updating. Reason being, when I was on the og epic, there were updates that I purposely did not take because the modem was worse or some other feature was screwed up. I know, I didn't answer your question.

otterboxfan4l said:
Just a quick question i like running stocked rooted but hate when get the otas and having to unroot to update my phone
Does anyone have a idea when the 4.2 or a ota might happen ?
Im running stock at the moment and dont want to root and then next week a ota comes out
Any tips or help would be gratefully appreciated
Sent From My Samsung Galaxy S3
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The good news for you is that every time there is a new OTA, Freeza posts a stock, rooted ROM. This ROM is identical to the stock GS3 phone after the update, except that it is rooted (and has a couple of extra apps like Super User or SuperSU). Freeza normally gets the rooted ROM out within a couple of days of the OTA being released. Back when I was running TW ROMs, he normally had his rooted ROM out before my area got the OTA.
4.2 will most-likely not occur until well after the GS4 is released. Samsung will want to keep it's latest-and-greatest TW version on their latest-and-greatest phone. We can complain about it all we want (and I want to), but in all honesty, it's just good marketing. The good news is that once 4.2 TW is released for the GS4, the good developers of XDA will (most-likely) be able to create custom ROMs from it. We've seen the same thing with multi-window, once it was released for the international GS3, it was soon-after ported to Sprint GS3.
Hope this helps.

topherk said:
The good news for you is that every time there is a new OTA, Freeza posts a stock, rooted ROM. This ROM is identical to the stock GS3 phone after the update, except that it is rooted (and has a couple of extra apps like Super User or SuperSU). Freeza normally gets the rooted ROM out within a couple of days of the OTA being released. Back when I was running TW ROMs, he normally had his rooted ROM out before my area got the OTA.
4.2 will most-likely not occur until well after the GS4 is released. Samsung will want to keep it's latest-and-greatest TW version on their latest-and-greatest phone. We can complain about it all we want (and I want to), but in all honesty, it's just good marketing. The good news is that once 4.2 TW is released for the GS4, the good developers of XDA will (most-likely) be able to create custom ROMs from it. We've seen the same thing with multi-window, once it was released for the international GS3, it was soon-after ported to Sprint GS3.
Hope this helps.
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Sweet yes thanks for the help
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[Q] Should I update to KitKat 4.4.2? (MI7 Note 3)

In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.

People have slightly mixed feelings on the update, but from what I'm seeing their mostly regretting taking the OTA or Odin flash and missing 4.3 JB. Though the new bootloader is not locked it would be better for you to just remain on 4.3 until devs can provide more support and information on the 4.4.2 official update. Besides as long as your on 4.3 you can still flash 4.4.2 roms and 4.3 roms you just need to follow instructions on the devs op. I myself opted to wait it out simply because my phone is flawless the way it is on 4.3 and there was not enough reason why 4.4.2 was a must have update, even if it was I still would have waited for the devs to do their thing first.
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Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.

If you cherish tethering, do not update.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
Purest said:
Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
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While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/

I finally took the plunge and rooted 4.3 and did the kitkat update while maintaining root so I can use the sd card write fix. My thoughts, is there is no advantage to kitkat but more disadvantages. I still get the occasional stutter and lag which rarely happened on JB so I broke even on that.
But I'm using Nova launcher and now home button does not take me to my default home screen. So I have to swipe to home screen since I have a folder in there for certain apps and games. Also the animation now just starts from the center when opening app from home screen.
The other issue is I use a samsung Gear and have it set to automatically unlock my phone when it's near it. But now I lost the ripple effect. I just get the lock icon with the 4 directional arrow around it.
There's also a slight battery drain. When I updated I didn't lose anything nor have I added any apps. Still trying to determine the cause on this one.
The worse part is I can't use foxfi anymore as it hasn't been updated to work with tmobile note3. Luckily I'm rooted so hopefully I can't find another way like Trev's wifi tethering.
If I could go back I would. I was pretty happy with JB unrooted. But I wanted to see if my signal would get better. I get an extra bar but when I go to see the signal status, it's still -115db when I'm at work.
The only thing I'm enjoying is finally I have root again which I could've done on JB. Being able to use titanium backup and LMT Pie again is awesome. I should've rooted sooner.

skullstrider said:
In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
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Personally, for me, I feel that the KitKat update was beneficial in regards to battery life, and overall stability with ne6. The developers are obviously concentrating their efforts on the latest of updates. I recommend tweaked ROM as the features are endless, and the developer is a higher skilled one, unlike many that around. The boot loader are indeed not locked, and if you update to ne6 the latest KitKat, if you wanted you could back flash to nb4 kit kat, firmware and all, or just flash a nb4 based ROM in normal recovery, both work. Asop ROMs you will have no issue running either, as they are all unified, and are also based on KitKat.. Tethering, if you want the tethering i suggest a ROM, such as tweaked, and you will have that as well. Their are a lot of benefits man to updating, some may disagree, but their updates for a reason, stability, battery, modem, partitions, just an overall better experience. If you want a solid KitKat experience the way touch wiz should have been, with some awesome themes check out Wally's themes in the theme section and go ahead and hit me up for a tweaked alpha, or join the irc channel within dwitherells thread itself. Super helpful people. Willing to lend a hand. Good luck man.
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BenGentle said:
The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
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I'm not quite sure what your talking about, but once you are rooted, and your device status is modified you automatically won't get the otas. Not just tweaked, but any ROM, including stock rooted.

It seems beneficial to you since you're using custom rom. I'm on kitkat rooted but knox has not been tripped and still "official" so I'm not gonna put custom rom and break warranty. I can still unroot.
My understanding is even if you have custom recovery you can't go back to 4.3 if your bootloader is upgraded to 4.4.
So for now my recommendation for anyone thinking of upgrading is stick to 4.3. Specially if you are running stock or just rooted.
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Still running 4.3 with Embryo ROM and runs flawless!

Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said

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Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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how can you do this? Im currently stock rooted 4.3 MI7 with knox 0x0. I thought you needed to update the bootloader to flash any 4.4 rom? If not, can I flash a rom using Mobile Odin Pro or safestrap or something without installing a custom recovery or kernel? Or do I pretty much have to trip knox to flash a 4.4 custom rom and keep the 4.3 bootloader?